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00:00Episode 2
00:02Today, we have these three guests with us.
00:05I can't believe the three of us are wearing costumes,
00:08kneeling down and talking to each other.
00:10Yeah, there's usually a set up.
00:13This time, we were asked to talk about anything,
00:16so it's really going to be a normal talk.
00:18Yeah.
00:19I mean, it's kind of an episode,
00:22and it's a pretty rough story.
00:24Yeah, it's rough, but I think there are people
00:27who don't know what we're talking about,
00:30so we've been very polite.
00:32Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34I've been talking a lot since I became a salaryman.
00:36Yeah, that's right.
00:38We started working from the moment
00:41we started dancing in the back of our seniors.
00:45I was 12 years old.
00:47Back then, we were able to open a bar.
00:49Yeah, we were able to.
00:50We went on a tour together,
00:53and we would gather in the hotel room
00:55because it was summer,
00:57and we would play a lot on the bed.
00:59We would say,
01:00Look, look!
01:01It was amazing.
01:02I thought,
01:03Wow, that's amazing.
01:04Sakamoto-kun is a person who doesn't get tired.
01:06Yeah.
01:07A few years later,
01:08I asked my seniors,
01:09What did you think of me when I came in?
01:11They said,
01:12You looked like a pain in the ass.
01:14That's true.
01:15You know,
01:16I went home in the middle of the lesson.
01:18I was like a silver screen star.
01:20I was like,
01:21What are you waiting for?
01:23I was like,
01:24I'm going home!
01:25I had that image.
01:28I wanted to form a group with these two in the future.
01:33I was like,
01:34Sakamoto-san,
01:35if that happens...
01:37It's going to affect my inner self.
01:40Please forgive me.
01:41That's what I felt.
01:43One day,
01:44when Sakamoto-kun went to tell me that he was quitting the company,
01:47Nagano-kun followed him,
01:49and I followed him.
01:51I was like,
01:52Why don't you say something bad?
01:54I was wondering if Sakamoto-kun was the only one who was going to quit.
01:57Even Nagano-kun said,
01:59Actually,
02:00I'm going to start a job.
02:02Then all of a sudden,
02:03the people at the company said,
02:04You're going to quit too, right?
02:05No, I'm not going to quit!
02:06I'm not going to quit!
02:07That's right.
02:08After that,
02:09I went back to the hotel room.
02:11I can't forget it.
02:12Was it Osaka?
02:13Yes.
02:14I said,
02:15Sakamoto-kun, don't quit.
02:16I said,
02:17I want to form a group someday.
02:19I said,
02:20That's not what I meant.
02:22You're calm.
02:23You're calm.
02:24That's right.
02:25That's exactly what I meant.
02:27After that,
02:28I'm going to quit.
02:29That's right.
02:30Sakamoto-kun.
02:31I'm not there anymore.
02:32I'm a junior.
02:33That's right.
02:34I suddenly became the top of the juniors.
02:36Yes.
02:37At first,
02:38I thought Nagano-kun would come back.
02:40Was it me first?
02:41I think so.
02:42I see.
02:43I was a little bit
02:44I was a little bit
02:45I was a little bit
02:46I was a little bit
02:47I was a little bit
02:48I thought,
02:49It's Nagano-kun.
02:50At rehearsal.
02:51I don't know what to say suddenly,
02:53I don't know what to say suddenly,
02:55so I think,
02:56It's been long since I saw him.
02:58I still remember.
02:59Nagano-kun,
03:00I know Nagano-kun.
03:01I still remember that time.
03:03There was a ladder,
03:04There was a ladder,
03:05With a sofa.
03:06Did I remind you of me?
03:07There was a sofa behind,
03:08Like this.
03:09After the enterance,
03:10Nagano-kun.
03:11Nagano-kun.
03:12I remember that time.
03:13I know.
03:14The angle is too perfect for me.
03:16I remember that time.
03:17Yes, yes, yes. The rehearsal room in Roppongi.
03:21When Nagano-kun came, there were six or seven of us.
03:24Yes, yes.
03:25And the next day was the final rehearsal of the Shounentai concert.
03:31It was a genepro.
03:33Nagano-kun told me to teach him the choreography.
03:38How many songs?
03:40About ten songs.
03:41That's quite a lot.
03:43I taught it to Nagano-kun overnight.
03:46Then I memorized everything perfectly.
03:49So I did it with those seven people.
03:52In the end, Nagano-kun stayed and said,
03:54let's do it with six people.
03:56One person quit.
03:58Nagano-kun was chosen.
03:59In just one day.
04:01So I went on tour.
04:03And there, with Nagano-kun,
04:05I started to talk about the worries that I couldn't tell anyone.
04:10And I'll never forget the hotel in Fukuoka.
04:14In front of Yoyogi, there is Yobiko.
04:16It said Yoyogi Seminar.
04:18I don't care about the word.
04:21I remember that much.
04:23We talked about it until the morning.
04:25We talked about our future debut.
04:27We talked about it until the morning.
04:29It's not easy for people who have been talking about their worries for a long time
04:35to form a group and still exist.
04:40It's not easy.
04:42Because it's a group, there are times when it's not a contract.
04:45There have been many walls.
04:48It's been more than 30 years since then.
04:50But we're still doing it.
04:52That's amazing.
04:53We're still doing it.
04:54The relationship hasn't changed, has it?
04:56It hasn't changed, and it can't be changed.
04:59But three years ago, when V6 disbanded,
05:03the three of us didn't talk about doing it alone.
05:10We found out about it in the newspaper.
05:12We found out about it in the newspaper.
05:14And it said,
05:15Tonisen will continue.
05:19I was like, what?
05:21Oh, I see.
05:23I was like, what should we do?
05:25I said, let's do it.
05:26He said, no, that's fine.
05:40He said, we're doing it.
05:42I said, let's do it.
06:04The three of us have been in touch a lot lately.
06:09In the beginning, we did a lot of research and thought this would be a good idea.
06:14But then we thought, wait a minute, are we the cafe generation?
06:18The place where we grew up when we were kids,
06:22the place where we grew up as adults,
06:24in the neighborhood, it was definitely a cafe.
06:28It was definitely next door.
06:29Our coffee shop, Napolitan shop,
06:32the counter and table shop were right next door.
06:36It was a bicycle shop, right?
06:38It was a family business.
06:40It was a two-person business, right?
06:41That's right.
06:42It was a family business.
06:45When we were kids, we would say things like this and that.
06:49There were words that we didn't have.
06:51It wasn't the front door, it was the shutter.
06:53Shutter, shutter.
06:55The key was the shutter.
06:56I really admired the front door.
06:58Because I've never opened it like this.
06:59No.
07:00It was like this.
07:02It was the opposite of Okada-san.
07:04Even if I came back quietly, I would drop it.
07:06I admired the front door.
07:08I was jealous of the fact that it had a key.
07:13The shape of the key was different.
07:14The shutter.
07:15I opened it like this.
07:16Like this.
07:17Yes, yes, yes.
07:18I don't know.
07:19I don't know if it's a business or not.
07:21That's right.
07:22And because it was a bicycle shop,
07:23I was always told that it was a new bicycle.
07:27But it was always in perfect maintenance.
07:29That's right.
07:30Even if it's old, it's in perfect condition.
07:33That's why cars are like that now.
07:34How many years have you been riding?
07:35It's been more than 20 years.
07:37You still have a car that you've been riding since you were a junior high school student.
07:39I gave it to my cousin.
07:41But you gave it to your cousin and rode it with your family.
07:43But I've already ridden it.
07:45You've already ridden it.
07:46Nagano-kun was a junior high school student, but he had a car.
07:49Sakamoto-kun had a car, too.
07:50I don't have a car.
07:51I took lessons in my parents' car.
07:53The number of your house was exposed to the fans, right?
07:55That's right.
07:56The number of your house was exposed to the fans, right?
07:58I don't know why.
07:59You can't come to the lesson with a watch.
08:00I'm in a hurry.
08:01That's right.
08:03I'll be caught.
08:03That's no good.
08:05Who was the first person to live alone?
08:09Who was the first person to have a cell phone?
08:12Inohara was the first person to have a cell phone.
08:13That's fast.
08:14That's right.
08:15I was the first person to have a cell phone.
08:19I was sitting in the back of a moving car.
08:21I was watching a telecommunication program in the car.
08:24I called him on the spot and said,
08:25I'm sorry, but can you give me this?
08:27He said he had a magnet in his pillow.
08:31He is very selfish.
08:32That's fast.
08:33At first, I lived alone.
08:36At that time, everyone was about to make their debut.
08:40Didn't you make your debut?
08:42I made my debut right after I made my debut.
08:44I made my debut right after I made my debut.
08:46I bought a loft with 64,000 yen per month.
08:53It was the first time to live alone.
08:55I was stupid for a while, but I forgot to buy a washing machine.
08:59I thought I had a lot of laundry.
09:02I thought I didn't have a washing machine.
09:04Your mother did it for you.
09:06That's right.
09:07Everyone came to my house to play.
09:09I met KEN and OKADA at TACHIAYAIGAWA.
09:16They said they would show me my room.
09:18I was wondering what to do at night.
09:19I said I would go to karaoke.
09:21Sakamoto said he would give me a car.
09:24He gave me a car.
09:26Did OKADA go to karaoke?
09:29He said the air conditioner smelled.
09:30Did OKADA go to karaoke?
09:33I should have said that on the spot.
09:35After the show, I asked him what kind of person he was.
09:39He said the car's air conditioner smelled.
09:43Everyone thinks it's funny and talks.
09:45Don't hurt me.
09:49I don't have a good feeling about it.
09:52I bought a car.
09:56I see.
09:58I asked him how many cars he had.
10:01He said he bought a car.
10:03He was beaten up.
10:05Why didn't you say that?
10:07I couldn't say that at that time.
10:09I asked him if I could say it nationwide.
10:11That's right.
10:13It's better to say it on the spot.
10:16As a result, he was beaten up nationwide.
10:19I think it warms you up.
10:21I thought I would say it somewhere.
10:22But he was beaten up.
10:24Which car?
10:27The second car.
10:29I've never ridden it.
10:31I've only seen it.
10:32I'm sorry, but let's stop.
10:34I'm talking about getting hurt.
10:37But I'm cool.
10:39It's a very good car.
10:41I have borrowed it many times.
10:44It's like a car exchange.
10:45It was close to my house.
10:47That's why it's easy to go.
10:48I said I'd buy it.
10:50He said, really?
10:52I happened to buy it.
10:55I thought you were chasing me.
10:58After that, I thought you were chasing me.
10:59I thought you were chasing me.
11:02I didn't happen to be there.
11:05I thought it was a scene I had seen.
11:08It was very close.
11:11I moved, so I didn't know what would happen.
11:14But I moved right away.
11:15You ran away right away.
11:17I moved to Saitagawa.
11:20I opened the door and it was near my house.
11:25I received an e-mail.
11:27I sent it to a nearby supermarket.
11:33I said, really?
11:34He moved in a week later.
11:36So everyone moved in.
11:37Why?
11:38I don't know everyone's house.
11:41I thought it would be an important day.
11:45I went there.
11:48I was surprised and proposed.
11:54How old are you now?
11:56I'm 53 years old.
11:59You are 52 years old.
12:03Your average age is 50 years old.
12:06I read in a book that it is better to have a community when you are over 50 years old.
12:13I haven't heard much about it.
12:16Is there a community we don't know?
12:19Imoara Aizaka.
12:22I knew it.
12:26Why don't you end it?
12:28I don't know the relationship.
12:31We performed on stage.
12:34We talked a lot and it was fun.
12:39I went to his house.
12:41I lived in his house.
12:43I proposed to him.
12:50He invited me.
12:52I haven't heard much about it.
12:55I thought it would be an important day.
12:58I went to a restaurant.
13:02I wore a T-shirt of MICKY.
13:06You were casual.
13:08I thought it was bad.
13:11I went there.
13:14I was surprised and proposed.
13:17I was told to read an important letter.
13:25I was called by him.
13:31What did you call him?
13:33I called him.
13:36Wait a minute.
13:38Imoara Aizaka.
13:39I thought you were calling him.
13:45What did you call him?
13:47Masa.
13:49I don't call him Masa.
13:51Do you have any golf friends?
13:55I have the same hobby as my local friends.
14:00You can hang out with your local friends.
14:03You haven't been there recently?
14:04I haven't been there.
14:06I haven't been there since I settled down.
14:08You settled down at the same time.
14:10I thought golf was a terrible sport.
14:14I was addicted to golf.
14:17I don't think they are shy.
14:20They don't tell celebrities to go golfing.
14:25When I was playing golf, I was told that the announcer was playing golf.
14:32I tried to contact him.
14:34I couldn't contact him.
14:36I was told that Inohara's mother was playing golf.
14:39I thought it was a lie.
14:44I thought it was a lie.
14:48I didn't hesitate at all.
14:50What about you, Nagano?
14:51I think it's a food community.
14:55I hear about food from various places.
14:56You eat yakiniku.
14:59It starts with tongue and ends with ramen.
15:06It's different.
15:07You go to a restaurant to eat tongue.
15:10You go to a different restaurant to eat kalbi.
15:14If I had a choice, I would have gone.
15:17I don't understand.
15:20Why do you want to go all at once?
15:25You had such friends.
15:28Do you still have such friends?
15:31I don't have such friends.
15:34You are popular.
15:37I don't have such friends.
15:39You don't go to a lot of places.
15:40I haven't been to a lot of places.
15:43You used to go to more than 1,000 places a year.
15:47How many places have you been to now?
15:48I haven't counted yet.
15:50I thought it was a number of places.
15:53Nagano.
15:55I can't help it even if it's a number of places.
15:56You have come to that area.
15:59You have a lot of information.
16:03Do you have a lot of information?
16:06Or do you still have new information?
16:09I have a lot of new information.
16:12What do you mean?
16:13I have a lot of information about the store.
16:15You don't have a lot of information about the taste, do you?
16:16I have a lot of information.
16:18I don't know if the name of the ramen association is wrong.
16:28The name of the association has changed.
16:29You are strict.
16:31The person who runs the ramen shop said that he couldn't keep up with the ramen shop.
16:36I have a lot of information.
16:38Nagano, I often hear that if you make curry at home, you can't eat it for two or three days.
16:46You said you wouldn't make curry because you couldn't keep up with the ramen shop.
16:49I may have said that.
16:50What are you doing now?
16:51Do you cook?
16:52I cook now.
16:53What kind of food do you cook?
16:55I'm going to make curry from spices.
17:01You have come to that area.
17:02You don't have a lot of information, but you go to that area.
17:06I have a lot of information.
17:08When I went to the Hiroshima park, I was invited to go to YAKINIKU.
17:14I was invited to go to YAKINIKU.
17:15I went to YAKINIKU in the afternoon.
17:18I went to YAKINIKU with three people.
17:21I couldn't get there for a long time.
17:22I didn't go to the city center.
17:25I went up the mountain.
17:28I arrived at a ranch.
17:30What is a ranch?
17:32I wondered what it was.
17:34I saw a cow car with a rancher.
17:41I was talking to the rancher.
17:43The rancher asked me what I was feeding the cow.
17:45The rancher said I was feeding the cow.
17:47After talking to the rancher, the rancher said.
17:53The rancher said I couldn't eat YAKINIKU.
17:56I couldn't eat YAKINIKU.
17:58I thought it was a fish.
17:59The cow raised by the rancher became meat.
18:04The rancher said he didn't need to eat YAKINIKU.
18:08The rancher said he didn't need to eat YAKINIKU.
18:10The level of YAKINIKU is high.
18:12I went to YAKINIKU with the other person.
18:16I thought I wouldn't be able to eat YAKINIKU.
18:20I sent the other person to YAKINIKU.
18:23The other person is a YAKINIKU restaurant in TOKYO.
18:28The other person asked me for advice.
18:30I asked him about the YAKINIKU restaurant.
18:32The other person is a YAKINIKU restaurant in TOKYO.
18:34The other person is a YAKINIKU restaurant in TOKYO.
18:36The other person is a YAKINIKU restaurant in TOKYO.
18:40Do you look at yourself on the Internet?
18:47I don't look at myself.
18:49Did you look at yourself on the Internet?
18:51Yes.
18:53If you don't look at yourself on the Internet, you won't understand the world.
18:59I don't understand the world at all.
19:01You don't understand the world is popular.
19:03I recommend it to young people to live a healthy life.
19:09If you look at everything, there is no end to it.
19:10That's right.
19:11I don't know how many years I've been doing this show.
19:18I looked it up on the Internet.
19:20I searched for INOHARA YUSHIHIKO.
19:22I found an article about INOHARA YUSHIHIKO.
19:26I was nervous when I saw that article.
19:29I didn't mean to do that.
19:31I just wanted to know how many years I've been doing this show.
19:34You were nervous.
19:36I didn't say that.
19:41I thought I shouldn't watch this kind of thing.
19:43I thought I was the strongest.
19:45I thought I was the strongest.
19:49I couldn't see the flame.
19:52You were the strongest.
19:53I was nervous when I entered the room.
19:56You have to remember the number of years you've been doing this show.
20:01How many years have you been doing this show?
20:01I've been doing this show for 10 years this year.
20:0310 years?
20:05I thought it was the 10th year.
20:07It's the same for age and career.
20:11When you reach the age of 50, there is a change.
20:16I think Sakamoto understands this the most.
20:19There is a change in my physical condition and my work environment.
20:24I feel that my work environment is changing.
20:30Your work environment?
20:31I have a friend who is a salaried worker.
20:33I think about nature.
20:37I see.
20:38I think about what I should do.
20:41I think about my work.
20:44I think about what I should do.
20:46I also think about the group's activities.
20:52How old should we say we are idols?
20:58I haven't thought about it today.
21:00Did you say you were an idol?
21:02When I was 60 or 70 years old, I became an idol.
21:05I became an idol when I was 70 years old.
21:07Is that so?
21:09You will be an idol in 7 years.
21:12There is no age limit.
21:14The same is true for ALFEE.
21:16ALFEE is amazing.
21:18He is 70 years old.
21:19I feel that he is not the age I am singing now.
21:22I understand.
21:23I thought he was 70 years old.
21:25When you actually meet him, you talk about your pension.
21:28That's right.
21:29He has two tours a year.
21:33That's amazing.
21:35We have a little interaction with ALFEE.
21:40I look at his back.
21:42ALFEE is a group that we sing and dance.
21:47That's right.
21:48I think ALFEE is the best in the world.
21:50That's right.
21:52I'm not paying attention to ALFEE.
21:54I'm not paying attention to ALFEE in the world.
21:56I think ALFEE is the best in the world.
21:58That's right.
22:00But ALFEE is a new company.
22:04What will you do next year?
22:06We don't have a goal.
22:08I have a small goal.
22:12We had a concert in TONISEN.
22:14At that time, we had a concert in one corner.
22:15We will continue to sing the best songs of the boy band.
22:22I still feel that way.
22:24The past is often over in the past.
22:27I think it's our job to convey the wonderful things of the past to the next generation.
22:35It's not a lie that our seniors made it in that era.
22:40If you can do that, let's do it.
22:45That's what the three of us, coming century, were doing.
22:52We had a concert in TONISEN.
22:55There was a boy band corner and a KAMISEN corner.
22:59We sing our own songs.
23:03Let's continue to sing other people's songs.
23:06Let's do it in our own interpretation.
23:09We don't want to blow it up.
23:11Good things are good.
23:13It doesn't matter if it's slow.
23:15Recently, young people in their 20s think that they have seen KOKO.
23:26But they don't know that they are in the same group.
23:30Let's go with our hearts.
23:33We have to go with our hearts.
23:35We don't have our hearts out yet.
23:37Let's go with our hearts.
23:39That's the goal.
23:41I have a request for the media.
23:44When you do something, you write V6.
23:49We have a name.
23:51Please do it.
23:53That's right.
23:54We always say, let's do our best.
23:57Have a great day.

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