" Nawaz Sharif Ko Insaf Mil Raha Hai To Log Kehte Hain Un Ko Relief Mil Raha Hai " Javed Latif
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00:00What are you saying, Mr. Javed Lateef?
00:02No one else in your Jama'at talks like this.
00:04I don't remember the last time Mr. Nawaz Sharif made a policy statement,
00:06or a political statement, or made a demand on this issue.
00:09Mr. Nawaz Sharif is making a demand,
00:11that these four people should come to Katera.
00:14So his political weight will be many times more.
00:17But he is not saying this.
00:19Is there any political compulsion?
00:21Then, Maria...
00:23No, no Maria.
00:25Then you must remember the Gujranwala Jalsa,
00:27in which Mr. Nawaz Sharif took the names of these characters.
00:32Then you tell me,
00:34how many years have passed?
00:36Many years have passed.
00:38Till date, only one Adar has arrested one person.
00:43The rest of the Adars...
00:45But Mr. Nawaz Sharif has stopped taking the names.
00:47Since 2022...
00:49Since 2022, Mr. Nawaz Sharif has stopped taking the names of Mr. Bajwa.
00:52So then you...
00:54Listen to me.
00:56Your information is limited in this regard.
01:01He did not stop taking the names in 2022.
01:04He took the names till 2024.
01:07But why is he not taking them now?
01:09This is the question.
01:10The thing is,
01:12Maria is not taking the names of the rest of the people,
01:14or he is not saying,
01:16that tell me,
01:18that after 50 years,
01:20the verdict of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's case,
01:23is that he has been treated unjustly.
01:26After 8 years, you give relief to Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
01:30and it seems that
01:32Mr. Nawaz Sharif has been given relief.
01:34Whereas he got justice.
01:36And he got justice,
01:38that till date, he is not ready to admit,
01:42that he has been treated unjustly.
01:44You give me justice after 8 years,
01:47and you say that he has been given relief.
01:50So how can I keep you out of this?
01:52Mr. Imran Khan himself is making statements about his community.
01:55Mr. Nawaz Sharif himself will make statements about your community.
01:58We can see this difference.
01:59Mr. Nawaz Sharif is not leading those statements.
02:01Mr. Imran Khan will be wrong,
02:03he will be right.
02:04It is a separate debate.
02:05He is leading it himself.
02:06This is the difference.
02:07No.
02:08No, no.
02:09No, no.
02:10Maria, let me clarify this a little.
02:13Mr. Imran Khan's statements,
02:17whether they are Islamic or against the establishment,
02:21these statements are made,
02:23which he has hired a lobbying firm,
02:26and they make it in Europe or America,
02:30and give it to him,
02:31and Masoof speaks on it.
02:33Now come,
02:34because he is speaking,
02:35I will talk on it.
02:37It is very clear to me,
02:39that he has no fundamental position.
02:42Okay.
02:44But you have a fundamental position.
02:46You have a fundamental position, sir.
02:48You talk on your own.
02:49You hire a lobbying firm.
02:52You make statements properly.
02:54You talk on your own.
02:55He is doing it.
02:56He is suffering.
02:57He is in jail.
02:58He is in a case.
03:01Okay, if Maria allows me to say this,
03:05do you expect me to lie the same way
03:10people are making statements today?
03:13Tell me,
03:14on one hand,
03:15you talk about jokes with those people,
03:17whom you used to call corrupt,
03:19and whom you used to call
03:21the birthplace of Farm 47.
03:24Today, they are at their feet.
03:26And secondly,
03:27tell me,
03:28on the other hand,
03:29you are saying that
03:30on 16th December,
03:31there will be a civil disobedience movement.
03:33And why this civil disobedience movement?
03:36You had asked a question,
03:38that people will send money from outside.
03:41Should they send it through the government?
03:43Should they send it illegally?
03:44You were asking this question.
03:46But the thing is,
03:47even in 2014,
03:49Imran Khan had said
03:50about civil disobedience.
03:52Even then,
03:53he had said that
03:54money should be sent through the government.
03:55At that time,
03:56it was in 9th or 10th May.
03:58And this is a wrong way of acting.
04:00This is a wrong way of acting.
04:02It should not be done.
04:03Nations have their own structural mechanism.
04:06They should be kept out of politics.
04:09But my question is,
04:10they are lying.
04:11Their statement is wrong.
04:12What they are doing with the state,
04:14keep that aside.
04:16And your truth,
04:17in which you are saying that
04:19these four people
04:20will not go
04:21until the civil disobedience is over.
04:23PMLN is not able to talk about this.
04:25You do this.
04:26No one else is talking about this.
04:28Look Maria,
04:30I am saying that
04:33it is unfortunate
04:35that both sides
04:37are not speaking the complete truth.
04:40And both sides are beneficiaries.
04:43Both sides,
04:45if they want to get Pakistan out of this mess,
04:49then they will have to speak the complete truth.
04:52When you ask,
04:53why does Mr. Nawaz Shiv not speak?
04:55Mr. Nawaz Shiv does not speak because
04:58until the complete truth is not spoken,
05:01until the complete calculation is not done,
05:03until the people who have made mistakes
05:06are acknowledged,
05:08then no one will believe.
05:10Sir, no one will put you on a plate
05:12and say,
05:13Mr. Javed Lateef,
05:14you have to lead these statements politically,
05:17you did it in the past,
05:18you gave respect to the vote,
05:19and it was successful.
05:20At this time,
05:21if you lead this political statement,
05:23then it will come into effect.
05:24No one will put you on a plate
05:25and give you all the justice.
05:27He will not make a way for you.
05:28If he makes a way for you,
05:29then there is no need for us to do it.
05:32No, no Maria,
05:34you are right that
05:36no one will put you on a plate and give you.
05:38But tell me,
05:39the people who,
05:41for the protection of the law,
05:43fought for justice,
05:47what happened to them?
05:49It is still happening.
05:51Did Nawaz Sharif,
05:53for the sake of justice,
05:55suffer countless times?
05:58And even today,
05:59if it is said that
06:00he is a beneficiary of this system,
06:02then what can be done
06:04to him more than this?
06:06I say this,
06:08the questions you are asking me again and again,
06:11that no one will put you on a plate and give you,
06:13then I expect from my state,
06:15from my state institutions,
06:17at least this expectation should be there.
06:19Those who say that we have become apolitical,
06:21they have become apolitical,
06:23so at least one person,
06:26you are charging,
06:28you have put one person on a plate,
06:31but the connection with him,
06:33those who are connected,
06:35in that scheme,
06:37in that conspiracy,
06:39you should at least bring them on a plate,
06:41so that at least one case we see,
06:44that it is decided on merit,
06:49so that there is hope in the nation
06:51and we can move forward.
06:53Mr. Lateef, last question,
06:54before concluding my segment,
06:56the decision of the Supreme Court
06:58to try the cases of the civilians
07:00in the military court,
07:02comment on this,
07:03should this be done?
07:04And what is said about Mr. Imran Khan,
07:06that somewhere there is a threat
07:08that he should not be tried in the military court,
07:10should this be done?
07:11What do you think about this?
07:12Maria, tell me this,
07:14and this too as a Pakistani,
07:16that I am asking a question,
07:18to you too,
07:19and being a Pakistani myself,
07:21I am daring to ask this question to you,
07:24tell me this,
07:26that in Pakistan,
07:28if someone attacks the administration,
07:30or the defence institutions,
07:34then where is his trial?
07:36And what is he called?
07:38Is he called a terrorist or not?
07:40Is he called an enemy of Pakistan or not?
07:43And it has not been 18 months,
07:46in fact it has been 18 months,
07:49so the state is begging,
07:51that the people who attacked me,
07:54why didn't you put them in jail?
07:57The state has been begging for 18 months,
07:59that justice be done to me.
08:01And you are seeing,
08:03that there is international pressure,
08:05the international groups are happy,
08:07or not,
08:08how much facilitation is there in Pakistan?
08:10But Mr. Jawaharlal Nehru,
08:11should he go to the military court,
08:12or not?
08:13A case of a civilian ruler,
08:15I just want to know your position,
08:17should he go?
08:19When you,
08:20when in your courts,
08:23those who do 9th, 10th May,
08:25will be called good to see you,
08:27then tell me,
08:29what will the state do?
08:31Or what will be my and your wish?
08:33So there is no other option,
08:34other than going to the military court?
08:36Will it be okay if this happens?
08:38If there was another option,
08:41then within 18 months,
08:43justice would have been given to the state.