📢 ESCÁNDALO DE CORRUPCIÓN: EL SENADOR EDGARDO KUEIDER CON ARRESTO DOMICILIARIO
👉 El senador y su secretaria se encuentran bajo arresto domiciliario en Asunción, Paraguay, tras pagar una fianza de 150 mil dólares cada uno. La justicia paraguaya los imputa por tentativa de contrabando.
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👉 El senador y su secretaria se encuentran bajo arresto domiciliario en Asunción, Paraguay, tras pagar una fianza de 150 mil dólares cada uno. La justicia paraguaya los imputa por tentativa de contrabando.
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00:00Senator Cuéllar's scandal is already known to be in Asunción del Paraguay.
00:05Of course, Javi was taken from Ciudad del Este.
00:08The scandal continues, not only with Cuéllar, but with his secretary, right?
00:12Exactly, and we know that he is going to stay there in Asunción del Paraguay,
00:17because this is what the justice of that country has arranged,
00:20after having somehow paid the bail, right?
00:25To be able to be in a domiciliary prison, of a million and a half dollars,
00:30sorry, of 150,000 dollars each.
00:34This is the bail.
00:36Of course, 300,000 dollars between the two for ...
00:38The lawyer lent it to him.
00:39That's why.
00:40There is always someone who lends you money.
00:42How nice, don't you have all that cash?
00:43I come to Carencana and I tell you ...
00:45Nobody lends us.
00:46My friend lends me, but he has so much to lend me.
00:48I don't have anyone who can lend me that.
00:50I'll lend you, Cata.
00:51Well, come on.
00:52I'll lend you.
00:53I'm going to Ciudad del Este with Teresa Fretes,
00:56to see how was the departure of the city, precisely, of Senator Cuéllar.
01:00Teresa, how are you?
01:01Good morning.
01:02How are you?
01:03Kindness of the people of the ABC newspaper, so thank you very much.
01:07Yes, good morning.
01:08A greeting, Coriel, for everyone.
01:10The last information that we were able to corroborate with colleagues from Asunción
01:14is that the senator and his secretary are already in the building
01:17where they are going to keep the rest of my family.
01:20in an apartment that they are going to share both.
01:23It is a fairly top apartment in a very luxurious area of Asunción
01:28that has all the comforts, it has a gym, it has a pool, it has a terrace.
01:35It is a fairly nice apartment in the area of Asunción
01:40where they are going to keep the rest of my family,
01:43as stated by Judge Humberto Tazú.
01:47as stated by Judge Humberto Tazú.
01:50After yesterday's hearing,
01:52they had a thematic meeting, first the senator, then his secretary,
01:56and then that determination was made.
01:58That hearing also permits the formalization of the process,
02:02which is the imputation by attempt of smuggling,
02:05both for the senator and for his secretary.
02:08A quick reflection of the Paraguayan justice, right?
02:10Because they are already in Asunción.
02:12The issue is to see how it continues, right?
02:15Yes, the public prosecutor's office formed a team of prosecutors.
02:19That team of prosecutors asked for four months to investigate the case.
02:24They made it clear that at any time they can expand the imputation,
02:29that is, include other possible facts that they can detect,
02:33and even include people who may be involved in those possible facts.
02:38At first it was talked about money laundering and smuggling,
02:42however, for smuggling there has to be a customs dictum
02:47in which it is stated that it was indeed smuggling,
02:50and also for money laundering,
02:52that money has to be linked to an illicit entity,
02:55that is, it has to be proven that it comes from an illicit entity,
02:58but the investigation is still ongoing.
03:01Teresa, I'll pass it to Pablo.
03:03The guys are asking you,
03:04obviously there was a point of inflection with the moment when he was investigated, Pablo, right?
03:09Yes, just like that.
03:10Teresa, I wanted to ask you if you knew,
03:12if you have knowledge of whether any Argentine authority,
03:15basically an ambassador or someone from the embassy,
03:18contacted Quader,
03:20if there was any kind of assistance or assistance,
03:23taking into account, obviously, the important role it has on a political level.
03:29Yes, we do not know where the assistance or assistance came from.
03:32The fact of the matter is that he was detained in the early morning,
03:35that is, he was detained in the early morning
03:37and the prosecutor, just in the afternoon, put his detention on Wednesday.
03:41At noon on Wednesday,
03:43it was already announced that he was going to appear in the public ministry,
03:46and in the public ministry of Ciudad del Este,
03:48about five lawyers appeared,
03:50who were sitting there waiting,
03:52and when they were consulted, they said,
03:54the senators have arrived,
03:56they asked us to come and assist him.
03:58When he arrives, he will decide
04:00with which legal study he feels most comfortable.
04:03So, yes, obviously...
04:04So, five people came to try to help him.
04:06Of course.
04:08Yes, yes.
04:09He was assisted a lot.
04:11He had the best criminal lawyers here in the area,
04:14who even work with lawyers from Asunción.
04:18It was very fast, also,
04:20since the hearing ended,
04:22so that he was given the transfer office,
04:26because he was transferred,
04:27today, early in the morning,
04:28now from Ciudad del Este to Asunción,
04:30to the point that he has already arrived.
04:32Because, normally,
04:34the office has to be sent to the bank,
04:36open the legal account,
04:38confirm the deposit,
04:39but all that was done very quickly,
04:41between yesterday afternoon and tonight,
04:43so that this morning,
04:45they already have the office,
04:47confirming that he can be transferred.
04:50Teresa, how are you?
04:51I greet you, Cata.
04:52I ask,
04:53the politicians in Paraguay
04:55usually have arrests,
04:57like the one that Cuéder and his secretary are going to have,
05:00with PILETA, a BIP arrest,
05:02this BIP treatment,
05:04or is it this Argentine senator
05:06who ran with this luck,
05:08in this case?
05:10Yes, actually, the judge
05:12only has to accept the place,
05:14the place where he must keep the arrest of the person.
05:18It is not that the judge tells him,
05:20in this beautiful apartment you will be,
05:22but that they had to offer
05:24a permanent home in Asunción,
05:26where he could keep the arrest.
05:28So, it is a determination,
05:30that is, the person,
05:32his relative or his lawyer,
05:34were the ones who fixed all that,
05:36because, according to the lawyer César Mírez Superior,
05:39that apartment had to be rented
05:41for this purpose,
05:43so that he could have a home arrest
05:45in that place.
05:46How much do you calculate,
05:48Teresa, that he could stay,
05:50taking into account,
05:52well, obviously, the diffraction,
05:54but mainly because it is a functional,
05:57in this case, an Argentine senator.
06:00Weeks? Months?
06:04I think he will stay
06:06at least a few months,
06:08because in yesterday's hearing,
06:12his defenders asked for
06:14an ambulatory release.
06:16The judge applied a slightly tougher measure,
06:19which is the home arrest.
06:21Now, when he was consulted,
06:23he said, yes, we agree with this arrest,
06:25which means that they are going
06:27to appeal this resolution
06:29and they are going to let him continue the course.
06:31Until there is a new hearing,
06:33until there is a new resolution,
06:35he will remain in a home arrest
06:37as long as the investigation lasts,
06:39which is four months,
06:41unless some kind of strategy
06:43is presented in the next few weeks
06:45and they finally achieve the ambulatory release.
06:48I'm thinking, Teresa,
06:50I ask my colleagues here,
06:52that they know,
06:54because being a senator
06:56who does not give up
06:58and does not give up,
07:00he asks for a license for obvious reasons,
07:03the bank cannot occupy it.
07:05No, of course not.
07:07We are just finishing checking some information.
07:10We are crossing data with Winocur
07:12because there is data that could be happening now
07:15or in minutes,
07:17which has to do with the decision
07:19that the Argentine Senate can make,
07:21or rather the block,
07:24but to respond to what Javi is saying,
07:26until the situation of Cuéllar is resolved,
07:29no one can assume his place.
07:31Therefore,
07:33officialism loses
07:35a senator to vote for him.
07:37Obviously,
07:39if Cuéllar resigns,
07:41even worse.
07:43What is the name of the substitute?
07:45Yes, the one from La Cámpora.
07:47Exactly, a legislator from La Cámpora
07:49who would replace him.
07:51Now I remember the name.
07:53That's why they are already nominating him.
07:55Is there a possibility that he will be thrown out?
07:58Until he is not judged in Paraguay?
08:00Now, in a little while,
08:02we are going to tell you some information
08:04that is being finished cooking right now
08:06in the block of Peronism,
08:08and that is probably going to be
08:10the controversy
08:12that is going to take place next week.
08:14Can he be thrown out
08:16or not?
08:18There may be a contact
08:20from the Senate
08:22with Paraguayan authorities
08:24to tell them,
08:26well, we need to know
08:28what situation we are in
08:30because we have to resolve here.
08:32The information we are receiving
08:34with Pablo is that in a little while
08:36the call is coming
08:38to a session in the Senate
08:40to vote for the expulsion of Cuéllar.
08:42It will be promoted by the Interblock of Peronism.
08:44They are seeing it.
08:46Pablo is finishing checking.
08:48Is it necessary to have extraordinary sessions?
08:50Yes.
08:52Because the Senate can resolve
08:54without extraordinary sessions
08:56because it is a disciplinary issue, right?
08:58Of course.
09:00There is a fragment of the regulation.
09:02But be careful,
09:04because what the regulation says,
09:06Article 95, and that's why I'm telling you
09:08that it says, during the recess,
09:10now we are in recess,
09:12they can meet and study the issues
09:14of their competence,
09:16the internal issues of the Senate.
09:18This is the commissions.
09:20Do you understand?
09:22Only the commissions.
09:24They can only dictate to those
09:26who deal with internal issues of the Senate.
09:28Now, the one who has to call the session,
09:30is Victoria Villarruel.
09:32They can ask, Peronism can say,
09:34gentlemen, I want to call a session
09:36to expel this man.
09:38And well, Victoria Villarruel
09:40is going to grab the paper,
09:42is going to look at it and say,
09:44we call him for February, for example,
09:46and he sends him.
09:48And there begins an institutional conflict.
09:50Yes, they are going to play with time.
09:52Exactly.
09:54But what happens is that you can't decide
09:56if there is no sentence,
09:58even if he is in prison.
10:00No, of course.
10:02If there is no sentence,
10:04but it is unnecessary,
10:06because there is always the presumption of innocence
10:08for anyone, even if it is a horror.
10:10That is in legal terms.
10:12And the expulsion would not be...
10:14Guys, then they expelled the Peronist.
10:16That's why I'm telling you.
10:18They expelled the Peronist,
10:20they left him inside,
10:22and then when everything was getting worse,
10:24he said, take a license,
10:26because otherwise we'll have to expel you.
10:28So what did the Peronist do?
10:30Ah, license. And he took a license for a year.
10:32Then the judge sentenced him for sexual abuse.
10:34I'm not saying not to expel him.
10:36The only thing I'm telling you...
10:38To make the information clear.
10:40Let me free Teresa.
10:42And I'll be back with the information.
10:44Teresa, do you want to close with some data?
10:50I'm not copying it very well.
10:52Well, we free you, Teresa.
10:54So we don't detain you anymore.
10:56Thank you very much for these minutes.
11:00A greeting, a greeting.
11:02Thank you, Teresa.
11:04I want to make a clarification,
11:06so that it is clear.
11:08A senator is for political criteria,
11:10and not for legal criteria.
11:12What we are saying with Javier
11:14is that there is a double standard
11:16with those political criteria.
11:18We saw it yesterday.
11:20They say, run the presumption of innocence,
11:22how are they going to get me out of here?
11:24And it ends up being a slaughterhouse
11:26of corrupts, abusers, and many things.
11:28Congress, deputies and senators,
11:30and now suddenly there is one
11:32that is not convenient for them, and they expel him.
11:34That is what the Peronist raised.
11:36Why is it a political issue
11:38if you have to rely on a legal issue?
11:40No.
11:42No, it's a political issue.
11:44If you have the votes, you can expel him.
11:46Obviously, it would be an institutional scandal
11:48if I want to expel a senator
11:50who has no cause.
11:52But even having the cause,
11:54if you don't have the votes, you can't expel him.
11:58Let's see.
12:00One has to look at how it came
12:02from Alberto de Cristina's hand.
12:04How did he vote now?
12:06Well, he voted in line with the government of my law.
12:08These two things.
12:12They grabbed him and said,
12:14no, I am an official senator,
12:16no, don't grab me, no, I am of my law.
12:18He said it.
12:20But he said it.
12:22But he said it.
12:24Where did he say it?
12:26It is what those who detained him
12:28are testifying.
12:30But it is not written.
12:32It is the opposite.
12:34The dialogue is not expressed.
12:38The guy who detained him
12:40said that he is an official senator.
12:42I will answer you.
12:44I will answer you.
12:46Cata, answer me.
12:48And what did he say?
12:50He said that the guy wanted to grab him
12:52saying that he is a senator of Argentina.
12:54But he didn't say the opposite.
12:56How can he say the opposite if he doesn't exist?
12:58Pablo, if you didn't leave the street...
13:00He didn't leave the street.