"Minister Enclave Mein Kisi Qisam Ke Mazakraat Nahi Ho Rahay," Sheikh Waqas Akram
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00:00Sir, a while ago you were listening to Malik Ahmed Khan, the speaker of the Punjab Assembly.
00:04He thinks that the government has put a soft hand on you people.
00:07You people are in a state of disorder, murder, and violence, and he says that absolutely.
00:12We thought that there was no soft hand.
00:14And secondly, tell me, that I have been told that there have been no negotiations and all the news is false.
00:22But we are seeing that the jail is also being opened.
00:24You go on Sunday, and you meet on Sunday, and then you come back.
00:31The news is now coming that maybe the jail will be opened again tonight or tomorrow morning.
00:35Are there any negotiations or possibility of breakthrough that this will end in Islamabad?
00:42Sir, the thing is, first of all, if you allow me about Malik Ahmed Khan, I have heard a little bit of his last part.
00:49I have received a letter from Malik Ahmed Khan.
00:53I did not expect that today I have heard his press conference.
00:57He is a custodian of the house.
00:59Okay, he is our opponent, but he is a custodian of the house.
01:02And I think he should keep equality with everyone.
01:07But in Pakistan, there is no such thing as collateral spirit.
01:10He gave a very aggressive press conference, and even today, the last conversation he had with you,
01:16Before I leave, I would like to tell him to press him more.
01:20This does not happen in democracy.
01:22He is coming for him, and he is doing this, and he is doing that.
01:25I would like to say with great respect to Mr. Malik that this does not happen in democracy either.
01:30That without papers, without solid evidence, people are taken and put in jails.
01:37It does not happen in democracies that the MNAs are kidnapped from the National Parliament.
01:42It does not happen in democracies that people are not taken care of.
01:47It does not happen in democracies that hundreds of people are arrested from every district without any charges.
01:54In democracy, people's businesses are not banned, but businesses are given the opportunity to flourish.
01:59In democracy, people's lips are not tried to be torn, people are given the opportunity to speak.
02:05In democracy, the opposition leader and his party members are not asked to sit down with the Punjab Assembly for months.
02:14Mr. Malik Ahmed is telling us what happens in democracy.
02:18The party that has made the Fasaitiyat and non-democratic traditions progressive,
02:26he is ashamed to say it.
02:29If he was there, I would have talked to him in person, it would have been more appropriate.
02:32You have talked about Mr. Gauhar.
02:36There are discussions going on on TV and WhatsApp groups.
02:42There are discussions going on in the Minister's Enclave.
02:44Nothing of that sort, sir.
02:46There are no discussions going on with anyone.
02:49Now, you may have asked a question about the jail, or I myself will shed some light on it.
02:56No, I was asking you, if there are no negotiations, then what will be the breakthrough?
03:04Because, you see, the crowd that came out, all of it is coming from Peshawar.
03:09They didn't let you leave in Punjab.
03:12So, yes.
03:14The thing is, the breakthrough is that we want to reach Islamabad,
03:20and we want to sit down with those three objectives and our demands are fulfilled.
03:25For us, this is the breakthrough.
03:27For them, it is that they don't let us enter Islamabad.
03:30So, I think that matter is over.
03:32It has been hours since our people entered Islamabad.
03:36So, their breakthrough is over, sir.
03:39Now, the second thing is, what can happen?
03:44Engagement, which can turn into a dialogue.
03:48Engagement, which can turn into a dialogue.
03:51But, it cannot be a reason to postpone this protest.
03:56It cannot be a reason to end it.
03:58This decision can only be taken by Mr. Imran Khan.
04:01And, there is no such thing right now.
04:03So, if they enter Islamabad, then our target is already there.
04:07Now, they are entering and leaving Islamabad.
04:10What is your minimum ask right now?
04:15Or, will you say that if this work is done, then we will be successful?
04:19What is the minimum?
04:21What is the minimum that you can get?
04:23Sir, there were three objectives.
04:26You know, the stolen mandate, the release of the prisoners, and the rule of law.
04:32This is our 26th amendment reversal.
04:34Mr. Khan himself gave priority to this five to seven days ago.
04:38Priority number one, what is it?
04:40Imprisonment, unlawful detentions, illegal detained political prisoners,
04:45against whom there is no doubt, people with fake cases.
04:48Release them immediately. That is priority number one.
04:51And, that is easiest. Equally important, all three.
04:54But, what is the easiest in that?
04:56You see, if the prosecutor takes back his application under section 494,
05:02then it is a matter of an hour, thousands of cases will be over, which are false.
05:05Totally false.
05:07So, for the state, for the government, this is the easiest thing to deliver.
05:12And, we understand that there are no solid evidences.
05:15They do not have any evidence.
05:17There are no witnesses.
05:18And, Mr. Khan can say that if someone has a solid evidence, a witness, then okay, carry on.
05:23But, 99.9% of our cases are such that there is no witness.
05:27This is the prosecutor, he has to write it down, take back the application, everything back.
05:31And, our people are innocent in that.
05:35We are saying that if there is a solid evidence, then okay.
05:37So, that is bare minimum.
05:39We have all our machines in that.
05:41But, you are also saying about those people who are involved in the cases related to May 9th,
05:47you are also saying about them, you are also saying about them.
05:50Sir, I will tell you.
05:52If there is evidence, then Imran Khan has himself condemned it.
05:55We have condemned it.
05:57If there is any CCTV footage,
05:59it is not a joke that he has put small pieces together and made it into pieces.
06:05Proper CCTV footage,
06:07make a judicial commission,
06:08file a case, investigate.
06:10If there is a solid evidence,
06:11and it is known that that person has done this,
06:14and has intentionally harmed the state or the defence nation,
06:19or in whatever way he has done it,
06:20then, Mr. Khan has already said that we do not punish him for that.
06:24Because, the party has not given any such direction till date.
06:28But, the innocent people,
06:29who have nothing to do with it,
06:31whether it is May 9th or May 8th.
06:33If the government, let me be more specific,
06:36so that I can sum it up.
06:38You are saying that if the government says,
06:40okay, we will make a judicial commission,
06:42which will investigate these cases,
06:44whether they are legal or not.
06:46So, on this,
06:48there can be a compromise,
06:50there can be a protest,
06:52things can move forward.
06:54Do I get you right?
06:56Let me be very clear.
06:58No, the judicial commission cannot be given a lollipop.
07:02We have been asking for a judicial commission
07:04for one and a half years,
07:06almost one and a half years.
07:08We are asking this.
07:10No one has responded.
07:12Now, we are saying that you have the authority,
07:14as a government, as a state,
07:16to take back the case in your prosecution.
07:18There is no evidence.
07:20You have given the papers.
07:22Your investigators tell us that everything is wrong.
07:24There are many people who have nothing to do with the case.
07:26We are talking about them.
07:28There are many people who have nothing to do with the case.
07:30There are many people who have nothing to do with the case.
07:32Let them be.