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"PTI, PPP,PMLN Ko Baith Kar Baat Karna Paregi...." Miftah Ismail's Statement
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"PTI, PPP,PMLN Ko Baith Kar Baat Karna Paregi...." Miftah Ismail's Statement
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00:00Let's do some strategizing from here, Mr. Miftah.
00:04If we want to reduce the rate of corruption, how will that happen?
00:07What concessions will Mr. Khan have to give?
00:10Because both sides have to give face savings to each other.
00:13Let's start with Mr. Khan.
00:14If he has to give face savings to the government,
00:16what can he give or what can't he give?
00:19To what extent can he go?
00:23Look, Maria, remember one thing.
00:25If we call ourselves a democracy,
00:28whether we are or not,
00:30if we call ourselves a democracy,
00:32then the decision of the people should be the decision of the government.
00:37So whatever decision you make,
00:40you will have to keep a new election in it.
00:42That we will have an election again.
00:44A free and fair election.
00:46It won't be like what happened on 8th February.
00:48The election was free and fair.
00:50The results won't be of your choice.
00:51The results will be of honesty.
00:53So you will have to talk about that.
00:54Then you will have to talk about
00:56that we won't have a free and fair election.
00:57We will have it after a year,
00:58after a year and a half.
00:59Within a year and a half,
01:00we will give a share to Mr. Imran Khan's party.
01:04It is possible that you will tell Mr. Shahbaz Sharif
01:06that you should leave it.
01:07Someone else should come from Noon.
01:09A more acceptable face like Ahsan Iqbal.
01:12Or someone from People's Party,
01:13or someone from PTI,
01:14like Gaur Ejaz,
01:15or Mr. Naveed Qamar.
01:16Such a Prime Minister should be in the interim.
01:18Or someone like Akhtar Mangal.
01:21And he should take out a year.
01:24And after a year, you should have elections.
01:25With a new election commission.
01:27If this is ever their decision,
01:30then it can be around this.
01:32This will be its basic.
01:34As far as PTI has made one mistake,
01:36if I may take permission,
01:39they have focused on leaving Imran Khan.
01:43Shah Mehmood Qureshi has been in for so long.
01:45Yasmeen Rashid Sahiba has also been in for so long.
01:47To say that the whole of Pakistan is in turmoil
01:50and only Mr. Imran Khan is a flower.
01:52This is not appropriate.
01:53There are many other Pakistanis who are good people.
01:57And they should talk about elections.
02:02They should talk about democracy.
02:04And they should also bring other parties together.
02:06But if they don't come out in front of Imran Khan's cult of personality,
02:09then this is also their mistake.
02:11And that's why I have told PTI friends,
02:14that you think that you are the most accepted Jamaat in Pakistan.
02:17The biggest Jamaat.
02:18Imran is the most accepted leader.
02:20But he has been in jail for a year.
02:21And all your efforts have been in vain.
02:24Because you have only taken the path of war.
02:26Pakistan has the most expensive electricity in the world.
02:31We have never asked the PTI leader not to talk about it.
02:35There is so much expensive gas in Pakistan,
02:37that it is not found anywhere in the region.
02:39Never did the PTI leader talk about it.
02:40And I must say Mr. Mirza,
02:41when the budget came,
02:42when the budget came,
02:43your party's press conference was more lively.
02:46I don't think there was such a lively opposition to it.
02:49It's not that you are sitting.
02:50This is the right thing.
02:52No, no.
02:53The point is that PTI is just focused about PTI.
02:57They just say,
02:58that this has happened to us.
03:00Our sister Maryam also used to do it.
03:02Mr. Zubair will tell you.
03:03They were also oppressed.
03:05There was injustice on them without a doubt.
03:07But you can't just focus on that,
03:09that what has happened to us.
03:10You have to talk about the nation.
03:12PTI has not talked about the nation.
03:14If today in Punjab or in the whole of Pakistan,
03:16they say that we will not give gas to the captive power,
03:19or we are doing this,
03:20they are doing other things,
03:21then they never talk about it.
03:23They talk about Imran Khan.
03:24Yasmeen Rashid Sahiba,
03:25who is a cancer survivor,
03:26and is in jail,
03:27an old woman,
03:28they don't talk about her.
03:29They don't talk about Shah Mahmood.
03:31So I think PTI will have to take its statement
03:33towards democracy.
03:35Imran's focus will have to be reduced.
03:37And when Imran's focus is reduced,
03:39then we will have to talk about finding a solution.
03:42But Mr. Zubair was absolutely right,
03:45that the onus is on the government.
03:47It is the government's job to bring down the temperature.
03:50It is the government's job to increase the time.
03:52But Mr. Mufti, the problem is that the government is also stuck right now.
03:55Mr. Mufti, Mr. Vendapur's statements come that
03:57we will not leave this,
03:58we will come,
03:59we will take over,
04:00we will do this,
04:01we will do that.
04:02This is a political bravado,
04:04you are telling your voters that
04:06you are a Moula Jath of KP.
04:09But then it becomes easy for the government to say
04:12that they are coming to spread the movement,
04:14they are coming to make a mess right now.
04:23Look, Maria, the government is not wrong.
04:25They do come to spread the movement,
04:27they do break up,
04:28they do make a mess.
04:29The request is that,
04:30look, there are two things.
04:32When there was a little negotiation going on,
04:34or it seemed like there was a negotiation going on,
04:36then Salman Raja sahib,
04:38he went to the ARY itself probably,
04:40and he said that yes,
04:41Imran Khan sahib said that
04:43the protest on May 9th,
04:45he said that yes,
04:46we will do it in the cantonment,
04:48and we will do it in front of the commander's house.
04:50Salman Raja sahib said that himself.
04:51And then after a day or two,
04:52when their negotiation did not reach anywhere,
04:54Salman Raja sahib withdrew from his own statement
04:56that no, this was not his intention,
04:57this was his intention.
04:58The truth is that,
04:59look, the leadership of the army is stuck on this,
05:02that you people have attacked our homes,
05:05our shelters on May 9th,
05:07and in Pakistan,
05:08the Pakistani people have not done this with their army.
05:11They do not consider this acceptable,
05:14and you will have to get down to that hurdle.
05:17It is not enough to say that
05:188th February gave the answer of 9th May,
05:20you have to say one thing,
05:22and basically you say that
05:24yes, we said peacefully,
05:26what Salman Raja said was like this,
05:27and on the basis of that,
05:28you should not lie that we did this forceful suppression,
05:31you did not do it,
05:32it was not our people.
05:33You will have to give closure there too.
05:36And secondly,
05:37look, I will tell you seriously,
05:39Imran Khan sahib has Gaur Khan sahib,
05:42he has Asad Kaisar sahib,
05:44he has Salman Raja sahib.
05:46To make a committee of these three and say
05:48that we have given you three months,
05:49so find a way out from the government.
05:51This is a lie above the government,
05:53look, in reality,
05:54the matter will be with Asad Malkan.
05:56The government,
05:57you know,
05:58he is a sailor,
05:59he is not a manager,
06:00so the matter will go back,
06:02but to make a committee of these three people
06:04and after 2-3 months,
06:05you will be free from the protest.
06:07You should think that
06:08they have a lot of resources from you,
06:10they have ISI,
06:12now you cannot do things,
06:14this is not 2014.
06:16In this new reality,
06:17you should take a little political space,
06:19you have serious,
06:20solid people with you,
06:21you should work with them.
06:22Right,
06:23the serious,
06:24solid people,
06:25the political space.
06:26The things that you insist on,
06:27that I will see.
06:28Yes, yes.
06:29Anyway,
06:30the problem from both sides is that
06:31there is such a maximal position from both sides
06:33that I think
06:34there is no room for sanity
06:36if there are any doves in between.
06:38Yes,
06:39I want to say a point.
06:40Yes, Mr. Zubair,
06:41I want to ask you,
06:42what can be the solution
06:43to the problem of
06:44solid political space
06:45which will take 3 months
06:46and a solution will be found?
06:47Mr. Zubair,
06:48I want to know this too.
06:49First,
06:50let me tell you this,
06:51see,
06:52earlier,
06:53the government of the time
06:54and the establishment
06:55had decided to end PTI.
06:57The by-elections in Punjab
06:59were supposed to happen in April 2023,
07:01before May 9th.
07:03You had snatched that mandate from them.
07:05So,
07:06when you say
07:07that until the closure of May 9th,
07:09it is absolutely right
07:10that the person who played the role in May 9th,
07:12should be punished.
07:13But,
07:14don't say that
07:15May 9th,
07:16you had already decided that.
07:18You said that
07:19the elections will not be held
07:20which was constitutionally mandated
07:22and was the gravest constitutional violation.
07:25So,
07:26when one thing comes out in this,
07:28then everything is lost.
07:29But,
07:30Mr. Zubair,
07:31two wrongs do not make a right.
07:32If you,
07:33the vandalism that has happened.
07:34Don't.
07:35But,
07:36when we analyse Bangladesh,
07:37Maria,
07:38when we analyse
07:39East Pakistan separation,
07:41then we bring everything into it.
07:43Yes.
07:44But,
07:45Sir,
07:46I would say,
07:47what Mr. Mifta is saying,
07:48that somewhere or the other,
07:49to move forward,
07:50closure will have to be given.
07:51Sir,
07:52everyone needs face-saving.
07:53Even Mr. Khan needs face-saving.
07:54Prosecution should be done
07:55and punishments should be given.