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00:00Let's update on the expected return to the Philippines by the Philippines on the death throne of Indonesia, Mary Jane Veloso.
00:06Let's talk to one of her lawyers, Atty. Edry Olalya. Good morning and welcome to Balitang Hali.
00:12Good morning, Rafi. Good to hear you again. Is Conny with you?
00:18Yes, this is Conny. Please be clear. Has the family of Mary Jane Veloso been personally abused or talked to by the government?
00:24Regarding her return to her country.
00:27As of now, I would not know that. But yesterday, they said that they will not report it to the government
00:35because the two governments of Indonesia and the Philippines are already talking about it.
00:41Earlier this morning, I talked to Father Cesar.
00:46They said that they haven't talked to him yet because it's not that easy. He's on the death throne.
00:51He has a lot of protocols before he can talk to Mary Jane.
00:55As a lawyer, what do you know about the talks? What will be the condition of Mary Jane Veloso's return to her country?
01:03To be honest, what you might know is what we know because what we are reading are public statements of Indonesia and the Philippine government.
01:15What we know is that they are talking to each other to resolve the issue of in-principle settlement.
01:28They are just arranging the details of when and where.
01:33I also read the message of their chief minister in Indonesia last night.
01:41He said that the only thing they are asking for is to know and respect their legal system regarding the conviction of Mary Jane.
01:55Secondly, the cost of her transfer to the Philippines should be approved by our government.
02:06Thirdly, according to the message of the minister of Indonesia,
02:11they should respect whatever will be the capacity of our government when she is transferred,
02:21including the possibility or prerogative given by the clemency.
02:31So there is still a negotiation going on, but is it still premature to announce?
02:34Because it's not all planned yet, but it's announced that she will be released.
02:39Is it premature to announce that they have a police force to bring their prisoners back to their country?
02:48It's not premature because I would not dare to say that the minister of Indonesia,
03:00including the president of the Philippines and the DFA, will bring her back to their country.
03:07The minister of Indonesia has written a request statement that they are considering the transfer of prisoners.
03:15They are discussing it. There are formalities.
03:19I don't think it will change. It's just a detail.
03:25It's just a detail that needs to be discussed.
03:30Is it possible to discuss until when Mary Jane Veloso can be imprisoned?
03:34Since there is no death penalty here in the Philippines, there is a lifetime imprisonment.
03:38Is there an equivalence regarding the laws in the Philippines?
03:43There is no equivalence because the death penalty is a singular penalty.
03:49You cannot divide it.
03:51Like in other prisons in the Philippines, there are ranges, minimum, maximum.
03:59Minimum, medium, maximum. There is none.
04:01The nearest prison is what is called reclusion perpetua.
04:10It's not a lifetime imprisonment. It's 40 years, 40 years.
04:16But I'm not saying that she should be given.
04:18I'm just saying that the minister of Indonesia's request has been approved by the government of Indonesia.
04:28They have given her the responsibility. It's written there.
04:33It's written there that she should be given a clemency.
04:36If our government wants it, it's a big change.
04:40It's a very limited possibility that she should be given a clemency by Indonesia.
04:46It has already been rejected.
04:47Yes.
04:48So the responsibility is handed over to our government.
04:51So the clear thing is that Veloso will return.
04:54We don't know when and there is a possibility that she will be released by President Bogbong Marcos
04:59if she is imprisoned in the Philippines.
05:01Yes. This is what we are pushing for.
05:04That she should be given complete freedom when she arrives here.
05:08And in December, this is usually the time when the President of the Philippines gives a pardon.
05:13Thank you very much for the time you shared in Balitang Halik.
05:16Thank you very much, PNK.
05:18This is Atty. Edry Olalya.