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00:00In the face of former President Rodrigo Duterte in the Senate hearing on the drug war,
00:04he admitted that he has a death squad,
00:06but he did not order the police to kill those involved in illegal drugs.
00:11Here is my report.
00:15I have a death squad, but not the police.
00:23They are also the gangsters.
00:26I ordered one gangster to be killed,
00:30because if you don't kill him, I will kill you now.
00:34This is the confession of former President Rodrigo Duterte about the Davao Death Squad
00:38when he faced the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee
00:40that is investigating his war against drugs.
00:43You mentioned that you have your own hit squad.
00:47Is that what you're trying to tell us so we won't be confused?
00:51I mean, can we be very clear?
00:55It's not a death squad.
00:57This is a direct statement.
01:01It's not a death squad.
01:03As long as the people in Davao know that I'm there
01:07and you commit a heinous crime
01:12and no one can go to the aggravated person,
01:19that's me.
01:20Do those seven people have rewards when they are killed?
01:24No, ma'am.
01:25Those rich people.
01:26There are a lot of rich people in Davao.
01:29What is the connection between the rich people in Davao and the members of the death squad?
01:34Because they want their safety to be saved.
01:37Because they want business to thrive.
01:41Duterte is arrogant.
01:42As president, he has no order to the police to kill those involved in drugs.
01:46Call of duty of the president.
01:50That's me.
01:53Because I was the president at the time.
01:56And I did not lack, Mr. Senator.
02:03I warned all Filipinos.
02:09If you are involved in drugs,
02:13let it go. Drop it.
02:16Because we will really have problems.
02:20But it was not a state-sponsored killing.
02:27But Duterte said, he asked the police to take care of the criminals involved in the fight.
02:32He also taught the former police generals who came as part of the death squad.
02:37All of this on my right side,
02:42was done by the chief of police, police director.
02:49All of them were commanders of the death squad.
02:55Senator de la Rosa.
02:58That's a death squad.
03:02Because they were police directors
03:06handling the
03:10controlling crimes in the city.
03:16So when you say death squad,
03:20it's a very loose term.
03:22I mind very much me being associated with the DDS
03:26because during that time when I was the city director of Davao,
03:30it was really a problem for us.
03:32Especially the unsolved killings.
03:35I think he's just joking, sir.
03:37There is no such thing as you kill him, you kill...
03:40There is no such thing, sir.
03:42So it's just a matter of taking things on your hand.
03:45You know how President Duterte tells stories.
03:48When he said that
03:51Bato de la Rosa is a death squad,
03:54I 100%
03:57said it was a joke.
03:59In fact, he said afterwards
04:02that the police were not involved.
04:04You said that you encouraged the PNP
04:08to encourage the suspect to fight
04:13to kill, to fight.
04:15Correct.
04:17Correct. It was very incorrect.
04:19Correct. Yes.
04:21If I go back, sir,
04:23I will do it again.
04:25Double.
04:27Duterte was also faced with the hearing
04:29of former Senator Laila Dilima
04:31in front of Dilima and the relatives of those who died
04:33under the Duterte drug war.
04:35Duterte said that he will not apologize
04:37even though he promises responsibility for the campaign.
04:40Do not question my policies
04:43because I offer no apologies,
04:48no excuses.
04:51I did what I had to do.
04:54And whether you believe it or not,
04:58I did it
05:01for my country,
05:03for all of its successes
05:06and shortcomings.
05:09I, and I alone,
05:13take full legal responsibility.
05:18I will be held accountable.
05:20And I will be jailed,
05:22not the police
05:24who followed my orders.
05:26What a pity! They are just working.
05:29He was inducing,
05:32encouraging the killings.
05:35And it cannot just be purely
05:39rhetoric
05:41because he followed
05:43his promises.
05:45He followed
05:47what he said
05:49that those should be killed
05:51whether they fight or not.
05:53I think that's too much
05:55to say that they all fought.
05:57We don't even have
05:59the death penalty.
06:01There is no honor
06:03in punishment like tokhang.
06:05It should not be an honor
06:07to be called the punisher
06:09when thousands of innocent people
06:11including babies
06:13have died in your name.
06:15The war on drugs
06:17will never be raised by Filipinos.
06:37My brother,
06:39the President,
06:41died in an accident.
06:43We have not yet
06:45obtained justice.
06:47We won in the RTC.
06:49There was a Danios case.
06:51We have not yet obtained justice.
06:53The discussion was heated
06:55when the former President
06:57directly asked
06:59if he is taking full responsibility
07:01for the death of Kian
07:03and the other war on drugs victims.
07:06Yes, and what about
07:08the result of the police
07:10who killed thousands of people
07:12including Kian De Los Santos?
07:14Do you also take full responsibility
07:16for that, Mr. Chair?
07:18No.
07:20How about Carl Anthony Nunez?
07:22Before you ramble on
07:24those many things.
07:26No, I'm not rambling, Mr. Chair.
07:28My questions are very specific.
07:30No, the law is specific.
07:32Guilt is personal.
07:34It's okay. I can ask my lawyer.
07:36You can ask him now
07:38before we proceed.
07:40I have prepared these questions
07:42with my legislative staff.
07:44Guilt is personal.
07:46Yes, it's very personal.
07:48You can't pass it to others.
07:50No, this is not passing.
07:52Blue Ribbon is investigating
07:54the war on drugs and the result
07:56of extrajudicial killings.
07:58Now let me ask you about Carl Anthony Nunez.
08:00Do you take responsibility for his death?
08:02You didn't get the policy
08:04of the President.
08:06I got the policy.
08:08I was talking about the policy.
08:10I take full responsibility
08:12for what I said
08:14about the war on drugs.
08:16You said, sir,
08:18you can hold me responsible
08:20for any death.
08:22Yes, sir. You spoke
08:24about specific crimes.
08:26If I say I will take
08:28full responsibility,
08:31we will go to court.
08:33They won't accept it.
08:35Mr. Chair, and if the resource person
08:37could keep his volume
08:39and pitch to a normal level.
08:41You're trying to pin me down.
08:43Mr. Chair, you are
08:45pinned down by your own statements
08:47of October.
08:49No, no, no, Mr. Chair.
08:51I'm not trying to pin you down.
08:53The exchanges are no longer productive.
08:55Do not pin me down
08:57on semantics.
09:05I will answer you like this.
09:07Why should I pay them?
09:09That's their job.
09:11Former Mandaluyong Police Chief,
09:13Col. Hector Grijaldo, also objected.
09:15He said, he was ordered by the House
09:17Quad Committee to confirm the so-called reward system.
09:19If Dan Fernandez put
09:21the paper he was holding
09:23on the table and told me,
09:27this is what you will say in this statement.
09:29This is the
09:31supplemental statement of Col. Garma.
09:33Tell them
09:35that you know the reward system.
09:37Just confirm it.
09:39They want to
09:41lie to me,
09:43Your Honor.
09:45Congressman Dan Fernandez
09:47and Benny Abante could also object to this.
09:49The statement of Grijaldo
09:51was called and falsified by Fernandez.
09:53According to Fernandez,
09:55Grijaldo was called because according to Garma,
09:57he can support his statement
09:59about the reward system.
10:01Grijaldo did not insist on saying
10:03that he does not know about this.
10:05Abante said that he did not
10:07sign any affidavit
10:09on the possibility of promotion.
10:11According to the Senate,
10:13Ermina Espino, alias Mooking,
10:15also suspected Garma's allegation
10:17that when Espino was the Assistant Secretary
10:19of the Presidential Management Staff,
10:21he was the one who issued the fund for Pabuya.
10:23Former PNP Chiefs in the Duterte
10:25Administration, including
10:27Senator Bato de la Rosa,
10:29and former Colonel
10:31Edelberto Leonardo,
10:33were also involved in the drug situation of the country
10:35before they became police chiefs.
10:37Raffy Tima reporting for GMA Integrated News.