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Rompe el silencio Richard Vallejo, abogado del ex comisario de 9 de Julio, Corrientes, Walter Maciel quien continúa preso en el caso por la sustracción de Loan Danilo peña de cinco años.
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Rompe el silencio Richard Vallejo, abogado del ex comisario de 9 de Julio, Corrientes, Walter Maciel quien continúa preso en el caso por la sustracción de Loan Danilo peña de cinco años.
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00:00contradictions and of course there is also information circulating about Pérez, we had told you something
00:06that also has and responds to situations with important links after his journey through the
00:13army. Richard Vallejos is the lawyer of commissioner Maciel, a new lawyer after the departure of
00:20Pierri. How are you Vallejos, how are you?
00:23How are you? Good afternoon, good afternoon to you and to all the viewers.
00:29Well, you know that in recent days there has been a lot of talk again about Pérez and Caillat,
00:36but little about Commissioner Maciel, beyond observing that he is still in doubt
00:42about why he carried out the investigation as he did, right?
00:47Well, regarding that issue, I have already expressed in advance in other programs,
00:56really Maciel followed the instructions of the prosecutor when the investigation was carried out
01:04by ordinary justice, let's say. Now Maciel is the one who appears two hours later
01:10in the place and is the one who should have, in principle before the prosecutor,
01:14at least make an alert to Sofia or ask her or send the police to guard the cars that go in
01:22and out on July 9. If he had done that, he would be saving a lot of headaches, right?
01:29No, no, Maciel did all those questions, he requested them. Maciel himself, the code does not
01:36allow him to carry out all those questions that you are raising. Maciel asked the prosecutor,
01:41the prosecutor was the one who did not take the true dimension of what was happening and I believe
01:47that the main culprit, so to speak, in the problems that have existed in the investigation,
01:57is the prosecutor. Because Commissioner Maciel, from minute zero, who asks for the detention of
02:04all those people who were there, he always said it and the prosecutor did not want to take place.
02:10We are very struck by what Dr. Vallejo tells us, it is not because we do not believe him, but one knows that in small towns
02:16sometimes a commissioner has more power than an intendant and that he has really requested a
02:21number of test measures with a little lost, test measures that I do not know if he needed the
02:26authorization of the prosecutor because there is a provincial protocol for the search of minors,
02:30but it is striking that for some things, I commit him that if you want, in honor of the truth
02:36and to support his sayings, make us arrive at some point in private all those requests that he
02:40wanted to check cars, cut the route or at least check the cars and out there they have not
02:45given him that authorization. Now, having said this, why of some of those who are there today, and you know
02:52who the detainees are, a temperament is adopted and on others not? For example, it strikes me
02:57because there is a different treatment of Audelina than that of Benitez or that of Ramirez or that of
03:02Millapi. What is the nature, according to the sayings of your client, of the bond that Maciel had with Audelina?
03:11No, Maciel did not know Audelina. He did not know her. But they lived, sorry doctor, they lived 100 meters
03:19in a town where there are 15 people. Maciel did not know Audelina.
03:25Maciel had just arrived at that place as a commissioner. That is true. They had designated him
03:31three months ago.
03:34Well, going back to the other thing, I remember now that the people complained that he was very hard, that he kidnapped motorcycles, for which I do not know if he would have orders from the prosecutors, or he cut himself, and for other things like disappearing a boy, he is waiting with his arms crossed for a prosecutor to tell him what he has to do. But hey, let's see, this is my appreciation.
03:53Look, look, I'll explain it to you. We had a recent modification
03:59in the criminal procedural code, that is, we directly had a change from a mixed system, we went to an accusatory system.
04:07What rules in this new procedure code is precisely informalism.
04:12And that is the problem we have, or rather, the police force, which has no way of documenting
04:19the orders. They are only made by phone, and at the moment the phone calls are over,
04:26he is going to jump to the light and he is going to jump all the calls that he has made to Commissioner Maciel from minute zero.
04:34To the prosecutor Castillo?
04:36The investigation.
04:37To the prosecutor Castillo?
04:38To the prosecutor Castillo.
04:40And you tell me that you call the prosecutor Castillo to ask him to set up detentions around July 9 and do not attend him, that he asks him to check cars and does not attend him. Is that the dynamic?
04:52At the first moment, he requests the detention of all the people who were there, and mainly he requested the detention of Laudelina,
05:05to which the prosecutor replies that no, because Laudelina served the prosecutor at that time, for his investigation, she served him as a witness and not as a defendant,
05:16because as a witness he has the obligation to declare, and already being as a defendant, he may or may not declare, and it will depend on the technical defense that he has at that time.
05:27By the way, doctor, I think by the way, Laudelina could continue to walk and she could continue, without knowing, providing information.
05:35I say because finally, who unites all the pieces is Laudelina, as Bobi said just now.
05:42I did not understand, excuse me, how did he say?
05:46I was telling you that in the meantime, while she is not detained, Laudelina, they could continue to investigate her.
05:54It is a strategy, it is a strategy of the prosecutor.
05:58It may be, I am not saying that it is like that, but if it does not attract a lot of attention that they were all detained, except Laudelina.
06:07That is why I tell you, that is a more than anything technical question that prosecutors usually use in this case, based on the argument that if we cite him as a defendant and not as a witness, already as a defendant he does not have the obligation to declare.
06:25Instead, being as a witness, maybe he can provide us with data to clarify a fact that is being investigated.
06:36Jorge Alarcón wants to ask you.
06:38Dr. Valdejo, it is true what you just said, that the one who conducts the investigation is the prosecutor.
06:44The police cannot, not only that, although they would like, they cannot work without the request of the prosecutor.
06:50Now, your client knew what was current.
06:56You, what version do you have of your client about what happened?
07:01Look, the hypotheses are still quite broad, quite broad, sorry, just at this moment certain issues are beginning to be elucidated.
07:13What I do have, in principle, already given by fact, is that Maciel did not participate in any aspect.
07:27What did he tell you about what happened?
07:30He did not tell me anything about any criminal act that is being investigated.
07:32I ask you another question, because it is true that we are still looking.
07:36What did your client tell you that he thinks happened? He was the police officer, he was the one who handled the entire 9th of July area.
07:44Look, he was, he was very few days in front of the investigation.
07:48But what did he tell you that happened?
07:50Doctor, doctor, doctor.
07:52Do you have a theory of the case?
07:55As you say, innocent.
07:57He must have in his head, because he is not stupid,
07:59what could have happened, having been five months of investigation, that he is aware.
08:05He must have a panorama of what happened.
08:07Yes, he has the panorama that the search has not yet been done very well, as it should have been done.
08:19That is to say, if you look more, you will find.
08:22And particularly this defense, who is speaking, I also understand that yes.
08:28In that sense, Loan would be in the so-called zone 0, or very close to the area of the disappearance.
08:38From my point of view, yes.
08:41In fact, Commissioner Maciel has requested that the drainage of two very, very huge lagoons that are there be done.
08:51And that they have not been taken.
08:53In other words, Maciel also thinks that Loan could be discarded, let's put it that way, I regret the word, in one of the lagoons.
09:06I do not know exactly what the theory of Maciel is regarding this.
09:10But if he asks to empty two lagoons, it is because I imagine that he must think that the remains are there.
09:16Those were in principle the hypotheses of his investigation.
09:22Because the trail and the tracking of the dogs at that time takes him to that place, very close to that place.
09:32Are the lagoons of Pérez and Cayllaba?
09:38We cannot identify that at this time.
09:40Dr. Vallejo, I ask you a direct question.
09:46The Intendant to the week of what happened, what happened with Loan, said, here the problem is drug trafficking.
09:51Did Maciel know that on July 9 there was a drug problem, drug trafficking, drug trafficking?
09:57Look, Maciel had no way of knowing.
09:59First of all, that is a federal crime.
10:01But as a police officer, I say, the drug addict, did he know it or not?
10:08Really, a fact that is investigating that, Maciel, I really do not know.
10:13What I can tell you is that in this cause, to introduce elements referring to drug trafficking,
10:23from no point of view, no witness who has passed, at least for this cause,
10:31has not contributed absolutely no element that links drug trafficking with the disappearance of the child.
10:39But weeks before, Judge Ponce de Peso made a tremendous discovery on the subject of drug trafficking,
10:45a very well-known person in Corrientes.
10:47He did not speak with ...
10:49I do not know, I do not know.
10:50No, you do, but your client.
10:52Of course, yes, in that place ...
10:54No, no, not in that place, in Goya.
10:56What happens is that also a sector or a part of the organization with links with that organization
11:03would have operated or would be operating on July 9,
11:06being the commissioner, as a commissioner,
11:09while the commissioner was engaged in kidnapping motorcycles,
11:13drugs were sold in front of their noses on July 9.
11:16At least this is what has been made clear
11:19from the interventions related to the group of Maidana,
11:22with the people related to Maidana,
11:24that strikingly one of them ends up returning to the area of Naranjala
11:29one of Logan's brothers the other day of the disappearance.
11:32How many coincidences, right?
11:34I mean, they really amaze us, right?
11:37All the coincidences that happen in this case.
11:39Well, in that case out there, let's say, unfortunately,
11:43what you are saying is not reflected in the file,
11:49because it has been asked, it has been asked in repeated opportunities out there,
11:54especially when people are heard, witnesses who have been on television,
12:01have been mentioned and have not contributed any element
12:06that links a drug trafficking case with the disappearance of the child,
12:11as until today we do not have an element that links us with the treatment of people.
12:17But today, right?
12:18Of course.
12:19Yes, we know that the little one has been taken away.
12:21Richard Vallejos, attorney at the Maciel police station,
12:25thank you very much for contacting us and we will continue.
12:27Thank you, it was a pleasure.