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00:00But how is it going to be different from Kamala Harris's administration to the Trump administration?
00:04It won't be different on the issue of Gaza. It will be the same policy.
00:06I think he will stop Gaza. He will go for a deal in the Middle East.
00:10And in that deal, you will see that he will play an important role on two Muslim countries.
00:16One is Saudi Arabia and the other is the UAE.
00:19Both have a very close relationship with Trump.
00:22I think there was a celebration in Riyadh and Abu Dhabi.
00:26There is a lot of popularity in the Middle East.
00:30People in India and Pakistan are thrilled about Trump's arrival.
00:33India is also thrilled.
00:35India is also very interesting.
00:37Americans were very nervous.
00:40I told the people of the American embassy to get ready.
00:43He is coming.
00:44They said, no, no, no, there is no doubt that America has changed.
00:48I said, leave it, you don't know.
00:50They had no clue.
00:51Since the election, we have been talking about Pakistan's politics.
00:56We have been talking about phone calls and tweets.
00:58Let's break that down.
01:00The ideal situation for the followers of Tehreek-e-Insaf is that Trump tweets about his injustice to Imran Khan.
01:06He still has three to four months to take power.
01:10He is not in power until January.
01:12But before that, a tweet, for example, if you make him do it.
01:15But after that, tweeting and talking is a different thing.
01:18Structuring the deal, having guarantors and facilitators is a different thing.
01:23If he talks about it, he will talk about it.
01:25What difference will it make?
01:27There are two things to note.
01:29First, what is our track record?
01:31Our track record is that in the era of General Zia in 1984, when Benazir Bhutto was in prison,
01:37the American role was to release him.
01:41When she left the country, do you remember?
01:43She was sent out in 1984.
01:45She stayed in exile and then came back.
01:48Her husband, when he was in jail, was released by Clinton.
01:54He had made a consortium of UAE, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
01:58He said, my term ends on 20th January 2001.
02:00Before I leave office, I want my friend Nawaz to be a free man.
02:06And on 10th December, a 747 Jumbo arrived.
02:08But both of them were consenting.
02:10Nawaz Sharif wanted to deal and leave.
02:14For example, will Imran Khan deal?
02:16Will Imran Khan deal?
02:18First, his statement will fall on the ground.
02:20The meaning of deal is that he will get relief.
02:22I am talking about that.
02:24I am not saying that he will go to London.
02:26He could be relieved.
02:28But in return, he will also have to give something.
02:30For example, he will have to give silence.
02:32He will have to give acceptance of the current system.
02:34Whatever he is not ready to do,
02:36if the deal is not made or even if it is made,
02:38it will collapse.
02:40Imran Khan is also not a Che Guevara.
02:42He lives in the railway.
02:45He has come with the support of the establishment.
02:47When Softcoo was against Imran Khan,
02:49he came to take him out.
02:51Will Imran Khan agree to such an arrangement?
02:53This is a matter of both sides.
02:55Who will guarantee him?
02:57How will he come to an agreement?
02:59Imran Khan himself has said that
03:01he is willing to talk to the establishment.
03:03He has not given up yet.
03:05He has not responded yet.
03:07What I call the mother of the establishment
03:09is that he is willing to talk to the establishment.
03:11He has not given up yet.
03:14What I call the mother of all deals
03:16can be made
03:18through American sponsorship.
03:20The establishment and Imran Khan
03:22can stabilize the country.
03:24The political actors
03:26quietly accept the deal.
03:28Nawaz Sharif has gone out for 6 years.
03:30It is not a one size fits all system.
03:32Everyone has their own way.
03:34It has been seen in Pakistan
03:36that no one has suffered a political loss
03:38even after the deal.
03:40Benazir Bhutto had a deal with Musharraf.
03:42She was assassinated.
03:44But the people's party came to power.
03:46Mr. Mian left the country after that deal.
03:48He went twice.
03:50He agreed to the extension of the Bajwa.
03:52He let him go.
03:54The establishment sent him.
03:56This happened in 2019.
03:58He did not suffer a political loss.
04:00Now the situation is a little different.
04:02Imran Khan has got popular support.
04:04Yes.
04:06What is his plus?
04:08He has popular support.
04:10He has a political presence
04:12in Washington D.C.
04:14which is not of our government
04:16or any other Pakistani party.
04:18Diaspora is very popular.
04:20If it makes a difference
04:22that the views of diaspora change
04:24and there is peace and stability in Pakistan.
04:26I do not go into the specific form.
04:28What will happen?
04:30It can work out.
04:32I think it is out of the possible.
04:34We do not have a tribal war
04:36that do or die.
04:38Both sides have tested it.
04:40Imran Khan is standing in Pakistan.
04:42He is not giving up.
04:44Imran Khan has also tried it.
04:46Both sides are tired.
04:48Maybe they will get ready.
04:50We might have good news in 2025.
04:52Thank you very much.
04:54It was an interesting conversation.
04:56What will be the impact
04:58of Trump's presidency
05:00and his cabinet?
05:02If we are talking about
05:04the mother of deals
05:06it will be in 2025.

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