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Video Information:
Interview Session, 04.11.19, Bengaluru, India

Context:
~ Why should one turn vegan?
~ What is the relationship between veganism and spirituality?
~ How veganism is related to compassion?
~ Why veganism is necessary for today's generation?
~ What is the relation between veganism and climate change?
~ How could veganism change the world?


Music Credits: Milind Date
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Transcript
00:00The current splurge in meat-eating is not more than 200 years old.
00:22It came along with industrialization and the popularization of thought that it is meat
00:42alone that can provide for protein or calcium or many other important nutrients to the body.
00:55It was obviously a highly unscientific belief but it got popularized.
01:11Now since the last 30, 40, 50 years, as we are progressing, there is tons of scientific
01:27data to conclusively prove that not only are we not historically prolific meat-eaters but
01:44also that meat-eating or milk consumption has a highly deleterious effect on the human
01:52body. But then this data is now fighting against a huge mountain of habit and vested financial
02:12interests. You know of the size of the global meat industry, you know of the size of animal
02:21agriculture. They are one of the biggest industries on the face of this planet. So now even as it
02:33becomes known that probably mankind took a wrong dietary turn quite recently just around 200 years
02:43back in opting for a primarily meat-based diet, yet the momentum of the last two centuries is
02:58making it difficult for most people to correct their mistake. And of course added to that is
03:08the heft of the meat industry, the financial power, the political power they possess, the
03:22kind of control over media that they have and all the levers that they can pull. So that is there.
03:31First thing is, so a lot of people, so first my question is like I do understand there's
03:37mountains of evidence which proves the claim. But there have been lobbyist groups or say there
03:44have been contradictory scientific research which now and then make headlines. Say for example we
03:52have been carnivore, so it was recently on the Times of India, we have evolved as a carnivore.
03:58And other adding being meat is not as unhealthy as we see. So I mean I do understand say from
04:09past 40-50 years there have been mountains of evidences. But say now and then there are some
04:16evidences which contradict the claim. So which make people believe that there is a kind of
04:23confusion within the scientific community. So what do you have to say on that? 40s, 50s, right
04:31into the 60s in the last century, it was still being upheld that cigarette smoking keeps you
04:44vital and active. And it was a popular belief that cigarette smoking specifically among men
04:58is a driver of masculinity as well. When it started becoming evident that cigarette smoking
05:16has a whole range of very very harmful effects, when cancer cases started piling up. Then the
05:33tobacco industry started sponsoring lot of so-called scientific reports that would say
05:46that there is nothing wrong with tobacco and that cigarettes are not at all harmful for human beings.
05:52And they kept up the propaganda for another 10-20 years, almost till the end of 70s. They kept
06:08trying it till it became ridiculously impossible for them to keep pressing on with their claims.
06:21So why will they not do it? Their money is at stake. Greed can make man do anything. Greed can
06:31make man present any kind of pseudo-scientific evidence which is nothing but blatant cheating
06:37and lying. Most of the reports that still try to defend meat consumption are sponsored by groups
06:49having vested interests. Take the case of climate change as well. That climate change is happening
06:57and there is a clear scientific basis for it was evident not today but even four decades back. But
07:09then the fossil fuel industry kept sponsoring report after report that said firstly that there
07:17is no climate change. Then they said oh there probably is climate change but it does not have
07:26to do with human activity. Global warming they said is not anthropogenic. Even today they come
07:36up with something or the other that would confuse the population. That's their objective. To not
07:48let it become certain, absolutely certain, conclusively and finally certain that climate
07:57change is happening and man is responsible for it.

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