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Barrister John Smythe abused more than 100 young boys and men and an investigation found Justin Welby knew about the abuse.

Oliver Leader De Saxe reports.
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00:00It was only this afternoon that Justin Welby announced his resignation. Pressure had been
00:06mounting on Welby to stand down since last week in response to a damning 253-page independent
00:14report into the cover-up of the Church of England's most prolific abuser, Jonathan
00:20Smythe.
00:21The report highlighted Welby could and should have formally reported the abuse back in 2013.
00:28More than 10,000 people signed a petition calling for his resignation, while the Bishop
00:33of Newcastle said he should step down as well, as did faith leaders here in the county.
00:40As a new person coming into that role, you have the opportunity at that point to stamp
00:46it out, to cut off that dreadful abuse. And whether someone is still in the country or
00:53whether he's somewhere else in the world should not matter. And the fact that nothing
00:59happened meant that for an additional five years, until the guy died in 2018, people
01:07carried on being abused.
01:09And those I spoke to on the streets of Canterbury say they were shocked, but not surprised.
01:14Did you know that the Archbishop of Canterbury has just resigned in the last half an hour
01:19or over?
01:20No, I didn't, but good. He did the right thing, he should have resigned. There's too much
01:26pressure. If you knew about this man in 2013, you're complicit if you don't, well, react.
01:37My suspicions are he just hoped it would go away at the time and it didn't. And he needs
01:42to, you know, take the punishment now and resign.
01:46People lost faith in him, trust in him, yes.
01:49I think whatever he said, however he acted from now on, that would always be in people's
01:57minds.
01:58In his resignation letter, Welby says he takes personal and institutional responsibility
02:04for the period between 2013 and 2024 and says he hopes this decision shows how seriously
02:12the Church of England understands the need for change.
02:17The final word from this Archbishop of Canterbury then, but what's next for safeguarding in
02:22the Church of England remains less conclusive. Oliver, leader of the Sats for KMTV in Canterbury.
02:30Oliver joins us live in Canterbury now, just outside the cathedral there. Oliver, have
02:37other members of the Church of England here in Kent reacted?
02:40Well, Abi, that's something we're trying to find out at the moment. We did reach out to
02:47the Bishop of Rochester in the neighbouring diocese, a very senior figure within the clergy
02:52here in Kent, and he was not making any comments to the media as of this morning.
02:57We did write to the Archbishop after the making report last week. We did also reach out to
03:02the Bishop of Dover as well, who's from the diocese of Canterbury, the same diocese as
03:08the Archbishop, but didn't get a response either.
03:12I think it is quite a severe case, this one. That's why it's called such a stir within
03:17the clergy, because it has impacted so many people. About 100 children were abused by
03:24Jonathan Smythe over several decades, and it is a lingering belief that if he had contacted
03:30the police back in 2013, he would have been brought to justice a lot sooner, before Smythe
03:37died in 2018 in South Africa. So that's kind of the reason it's caused such a stir, not
03:44just within the clergy, but within faith leaders across the UK.
03:48Oliver, what's next? What does this mean going forward?
03:52Well, there's a lot of speculation, Abi, not least because normally upon resigning or leaving
03:59their role, the Archbishop of Canterbury becomes a life peer within the House of Lords. That's
04:05very much now up in the air, and for the Church of England, it raises a lot of questions
04:10about what happens next for the Church, because whoever takes over will have to deal with
04:16a lot of mistrust around safeguarding, but also the fact that Justin Welby was a very
04:21outspoken figure on a number of issues. Austerity, Brexit, the environment, and they will have
04:26to steer the position of the Church going forward as well. So a lot resting on what
04:33happens next going forward. It's going to be something we're going to be covering very
04:36closely here on KMTV in the coming weeks and months.
04:40Oliver, thank you very much for those details today.

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