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00:00Hello and welcome to SportsZoom. I am your baseball player, Najeeb ul-Hasnain.
00:17The propaganda of Indian media is not getting rid of it.
00:21Now a new trend has been left. If Pakistan does not agree for a hybrid model, then the entire Champions Trophy will be shifted to South Africa.
00:30Let's show you the details in this report.
00:32Every day a new story, every day a new formula.
00:35Indian media is not getting rid of spreading propaganda against Pakistan.
00:39According to Indian media, South Africa cannot host the Champions Trophy if it denies PCB's hybrid model.
00:45This is another trend left by Indian media.
00:48Indian media has forgotten that the Champions Trophy is scheduled in February.
00:52Meanwhile, the T20 league is held in South Africa.
00:55And it is very hot.
00:56Not only the media, even the former cricketers are not getting rid of spreading propaganda against Pakistan.
01:01Aakash Chopra said that if PCB wants to host the Champions Trophy without India, then let it be.
01:05But where will the money come from?
01:07India will not go.
01:08India will not go.
01:09You keep talking.
01:10If India does not want to come, then it should not come.
01:11If everyone is coming, then why don't you come?
01:12If India does not want to come, then we will play the Champions Trophy like this.
01:14If you play like this, then sir.
01:16But maybe the tournament will happen.
01:17Because the money will not come.
01:19The money is coming from here.
01:20The ICC is also worried.
01:21If the dispute is not resolved, they will also suffer a heavy loss.
01:24The decision not to go to Pakistan can also hurt India.
01:27India has to host four ICC events in the next seven years.
01:32To talk about this, we have with us the former chairman, Khalid Mehmood.
01:37Mr. Khalid, Assalamualaikum.
01:38Welcome to the show.
01:39Mr. Khalid, India is not coming.
01:41This is a very strange issue.
01:44What should we do about this?
01:45Earlier, there was a situation that there was no bilateral series.
01:49Then this event is of the ACC.
01:52Now they have not left the ICC either.
01:54So where is this situation going?
01:57And why does India not want to play?
02:00What is being done about this?
02:02The answer to your first question is that India does not have a problem today.
02:07This has been the case for the past few years.
02:10And especially since the time when the Modi government came.
02:14You know that the Modi government has a special point of view.
02:19It does not treat Muslims and Muslims outside the country well.
02:28So the problem is that the Modi government wants that they have their own statement.
02:35They say that Pakistan is terrorizing in Kashmir and so on.
02:41But they do not have their own government statement.
02:44So they want Pakistan to be defamed in the world and to be isolated.
02:51Both are very important.
02:53The defamation can only be done through statements.
02:56But to isolate them, they have to use these tricks.
03:00There is a cricket program.
03:03There is an ICC event.
03:05All the countries have agreed on it.
03:07But they have put their foot down.
03:10As you know, there were problems in the Asia Cup.
03:13These things happened in other places as well.
03:15So all this is happening.
03:17So the only purpose of this is to isolate and defame Pakistan.
03:23To create difficulties for them.
03:25Mr. Khalid, tell me now that the time has come.
03:28Do you think that Pakistan should remain firm on its stance?
03:33Or at the end, it will be what India wants?
03:36It should have happened.
03:38In the last meeting of the ICC in Dubai,
03:43Pakistan should have raised this issue on its own.
03:47This question should have been raised on its own.
03:49That this is going to happen.
03:51You are giving a budget and everything.
03:53But India's intentions are different.
03:57They have had the same attitude in the past as well.
04:00They do not want to come to Pakistan.
04:02So do something about it.
04:05This should have been discussed in the meeting.
04:08Now tell me,
04:10in the last meeting of the ICC,
04:13this issue was raised.
04:15Although it was such an important issue.
04:17Pakistan's success was based on this.
04:20So it was not raised.
04:22Now this issue has come.
04:24So far, Pakistan has not shown any kind of enthusiasm.
04:29So now they are making statements that
04:31we will take a strict attitude.
04:33What is this?
04:34It is a matter of time to take a strict attitude.
04:37The first thing should be that
04:39you lobby for your rights.
04:43Make the member states of the ICC think about this.
04:47And force India to come.
04:50Of course, they have a responsibility.
04:52International and international responsibility.
04:55My point is that
04:56first of all, you should not believe in the hybrid model.
04:59But if you agree, then there is justice.
05:02If both the matches are anywhere,
05:04then it should be under the hybrid model.
05:06It should be at the neutral venue.
05:08If the hybrid model is going,
05:10then it should be the same in the World Cup of 2026.
05:12What will you say?
05:15I am not convinced of the hybrid model.
05:17Why should there be a hybrid model?
05:20There are matches in Pakistan.
05:23There are tournaments.
05:25It is okay.
05:26In our country,
05:27there are incidents of terrorism in some areas.
05:30But it happens all over the world.
05:32In England, there used to be terrorism.
05:36When there was a problem in Scotland,
05:38when there was a problem in Ireland,
05:40there was terrorism.
05:41Teams used to go there.
05:42Because it is the responsibility of the host country
05:46to protect the upcoming team.
05:50Protect the players.
05:52Arrange the matches well.
05:54And make sure that there is no corruption.
05:56Pakistan is also giving this guarantee.
05:58Recently, an English team came.
06:01They played 3 matches.
06:03There was no corruption.
06:06It is a very interesting thing.
06:11Pakistan should not tolerate this.
06:14There are news that if Pakistan does not accept the hybrid model,
06:18then the whole event will go to South Africa.
06:20My question is,
06:22what will be the role of the ICC?
06:25Whether it is Sri Lanka or Africa,
06:29it is a matter of time.
06:31Pakistan is an old member country of the ICC.
06:35Thank God, Pakistan's team is playing well at the moment.
06:39It has a good record.
06:41We have had such international competitions and events before.
06:46These things are nonsense.
06:49He will do it.
06:50He can do whatever he wants.
06:52Remember one thing.
06:54There can be no tournament without Pakistan.
06:59When you talk about India,
07:01it is true that money comes from India.
07:05The corporate sector has a lot of support for cricket.
07:15A lot of money comes.
07:16But let me tell you one thing.
07:20The value of the Pakistan-India match is very high.
07:24If you leave Pakistan-India,
07:29all matches have a revenue of 15-20 million dollars.
07:35A single match of Pakistan-India has a revenue of 15-20 million dollars.
07:40It dominates all other matches.
07:42You are absolutely right.
07:43In the past, when we went to India,
07:46there was a lot of commotion.
07:47You were the chairman at that time.
07:49What was the situation like?
07:50The people of India may remember that
07:54three very important incidents took place at that time.
07:58First, the Feroz Shah Kotla ground wicket was thrown in Delhi.
08:05The reason was that we did not want Pakistan to come.
08:08After that, the Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai was demolished.
08:14The people there said that we do not want Pakistan to come.
08:17After that, in Calcutta, the Dalmia officer
08:24was attacked at his house.
08:26He said that Pakistan should not come.
08:27Now see, there can be more opposition to Pakistan's coming.
08:31I was the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board.
08:35And I had refused that Pakistan will not go.
08:38Now they had to take it.
08:40Because the Pakistan tour of India
08:44has a lot of Indian cricket boards.
08:48There is so much money that you cannot imagine.
08:53So they said, no, no, no.
08:55These are people who have been around for a few years
08:57who are doing such things.
08:59You let the Pakistan team come.
09:01I said, okay, if you say this, then I will consider it.
09:04But the condition is that the NILA Cricket Board does not tell me.
09:08No one from the Indian government can be trusted on the political level.
09:12So he said, yes, we will get it done.
09:14Two or three days later, India's central minister,
09:18who was probably in charge of sports,
09:20made a statement.
09:22It came all over the world that we want Pakistan to come.
09:26When that statement came, my counterpart, Raj Singh,
09:30who was a very good man,
09:32he called and said, you are fine, you are satisfied.
09:35I said no.
09:36He was very surprised that why you are not satisfied.
09:38I said, when it comes to Pakistan-India,
09:41ministers are not important.
09:43Talk to them on a higher level.
09:46He said, okay, it is a very difficult task.
09:48I will try.
09:49Then he approached his government.
09:51And you will be surprised that in just two or three days,
09:55the then Prime Minister of India,
09:59Prime Minister Atal Bahari Bajpai,
10:03his statement came, a very prominent statement,
10:06that we want Pakistan's cricket team to come.
10:08Our people also want it.
10:10That is why I appeal to Pakistan to send its team.
10:13Now, of course, it was very well arranged.
10:16Then it was a great historical success.
10:19Okay, Khalid Mehmood is with us.
10:22Let's take a break.
10:23We will continue the discussion later.
10:24Don't go anywhere.
10:25We will be right back.
10:30Glad to have you back once again to Sports Room.
10:32Before going back to Khalid Mehmood,
10:34can India still come to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy?
10:39This is a very important question.
10:41Can a telephone call show magic?
10:45All this has been going on for a long time.
10:48And if this phone call was to be made,
10:50it should have been made long ago.
10:51The matter should not have even come to this.
10:53Khalid Mehmood is with us.
10:54Khalid, some news is also going on that
10:56if India does not come for the Champions Trophy,
10:59then Pakistan will not play anywhere with them in the future.
11:03Is this the right decision?
11:05Look, India should come.
11:08Pakistan is in a position,
11:11if it talks in a positive way,
11:14if it talks in a positive way,
11:18then India will have to come.
11:22But if, suppose,
11:24if Pakistan fails in its efforts,
11:29then Pakistan does not need to play with India
11:34and make money for the ICC.
11:36They should be given a clear answer.
11:38They should be told right now
11:40that if they do not come today,
11:42then we will not go anywhere to play with them tomorrow.
11:45In fact, it should be said that
11:47there will be a match somewhere else.
11:49We will see India there too.
11:51Okay, Khalid, my last question to you is
11:53that when you were the chairman,
11:55India's cricket was not so strong.
11:57Pak Bharat Cricket was also there.
11:59Were there such problems in those days?
12:01Look, one more question.
12:03The answer to the question has been given in full detail.
12:06India is a big country, of course.
12:09It is five times bigger than us.
12:11Its resources are more than ours.
12:13Cricket brings in a lot of money.
12:16You must remember that
12:17India presented the Big Three formula for this reason
12:21in which they combined Australia and England.
12:24But even in that, I think,
12:26Pakistan did not play its cards properly.
12:30I said that the money that comes in,
12:33Pakistan and India have made the most efforts in it.
12:38On the ground and on television and in every way.
12:42So that's why that big country was always like that.
12:45Its team is sometimes good and sometimes not.
12:48You know that India's team is playing very bad cricket.
12:53They have lost to New Zealand and so on.
12:55So this is not the case.
12:57That system continues.
12:59But their strength, their money, their capital, their population,
13:03their big stadium is their strength.
13:06But without Pakistan,
13:09they can't do anything on their own.
13:12Pakistan is helpless.
13:15Pakistan International Cricket Council is also helpless.
13:18The 8-7 members of the council are all helpless.
13:22If Pakistan plays its cards properly,
13:25then there is nothing that is against Pakistan's will.
13:29Thank you very much.
13:30Former Chairman Khalid Mehmood was with us.
13:32In the case of the Champions Trophy,
13:34which camel will sit,
13:36only time will tell.
13:38Give your host Najeeb-ul-Asnain permission.
13:40Take good care of yourself. Allah Hafiz.

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