El barrio Carlos Gardel, ubicado en El Palomar, vuelve a ser foco de atención por su alta tasa de delincuencia. La semana pasada, periodistas que cubrían un robo en la zona fueron atacados por menores que se llevaron las cámaras de grabación. Las mismas cámaras registraron el ingreso al barrio tras el robo. Los residentes del lugar denuncian sentirse marginados y temen por su seguridad debido a la creciente violencia. Se menciona también la presencia de bandas criminales que operan desde otros lugares conflictivos como Fuerte Apache.
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00:00Last week, the neighborhood Carlos Gardel made news again due to extreme situations of insecurity.
00:07Journalists who covered a robbery near the neighborhood Carlos Gardel were attacked by minors,
00:13the cameras were taken and they were turned on.
00:16The images showed us entering the neighborhood Carlos Gardel,
00:20a neighborhood located in the Moronense locality of El Palomar,
00:24which ends on February 3rd and is located between Marconi Street,
00:28Carlos Gardel, Pedriel Avenue and the back of the hospital Posada.
00:38It's like everywhere, everywhere there is crime, there is drugs,
00:42there are good people, there are bad people, like everywhere,
00:45there are working people who get up at 5 in the morning and come back at 10 at night.
00:49I think that's it, that we are marginalized by the neighborhood Carlos Gardel.
00:54The neighborhood has always been a spicy place, as they say from the outside,
00:59it got a little worse later, it got better because there is an urbanization.
01:04For me, the moments of the neighborhood have a lot to do with the moments that we live at the national level.
01:10We are in a moment of crisis, that we are one of the first sectors that suffers
01:15the economic crisis, the crisis in terms of labor.
01:19And it is the first thing that is cut, obviously we do not agree
01:23and we suffer it that way, I think.
01:28In 1968, during the Hungarian government,
01:31the eradication of marginalized neighborhoods was discussed in the city of Buenos Aires
01:35and all the people were brought here, to the Moron area, to the west,
01:39so that they can live in what was going to be built at the time,
01:43which were the monoblocks of Villa Sarmiento.
01:46Finally, that construction was interrupted and the movements of the people began,
01:54the occupations within the neighborhood.
01:57Later, the neighborhood began to complicate itself
02:00due to the inequalities and permanent crises that Argentina had.
02:04It is part of the radiography of the neighborhood Carlos Gardel.
02:08It is a great community, a great family,
02:11well, that many times lives like a very structural poverty of many years.
02:17What are you seeing with the youth?
02:21There is like a breakdown of life project,
02:24there is a breakdown, there is an implosion in the families,
02:27where they cannot accompany him, where they are managing to survive every day
02:34and that makes, well, that the children are drifting.
02:37About 15 years ago, all these problems began, right?
02:42The boys stealing and it was more, how can I tell you,
02:48abandonment of the parents towards the children.
02:50For example, we here, it is not that we solve, but we provide space,
02:53then these spaces help the boys to be looked at, accompanied,
02:58so that they can eat, share, but also recover that, well, it is good that it exists.
03:07Why are we talking about Villa Carlos Gardel?
03:10Because for several months now in the West Corridor
03:15there has been a series of robberies,
03:18the most scandalous was last Friday,
03:21a major gendarme who was retiring,
03:24he had bought a house in the Palomar area,
03:28he had bought a cheaper house,
03:30he could not afford to buy it, he lived in Merlo,
03:32he said, well, let's move to a better neighborhood,
03:34let's buy a nicer house,
03:36he was retiring that day
03:38and a car, an Etios, crosses,
03:40and the criminals shoot him and kill him.
03:44Almost like in a choreography of obviousness,
03:47that Etios ends up on fire in Fuerte Apache,
03:50which is another of the hot spots
03:52where the gangs that are going to rob the middle-class neighborhoods of Ramos Mejia,
04:01Ciudadela, Palomar, Morón, come out or take refuge.
04:05Villa Sarmiento was the most isolated place,
04:08and why are we talking about Villa Carlos Gardel?
04:10Because it was proven that beyond what the neighbors said,
04:13when they went to rob a television team that was working in Villa Sarmiento,
04:18because there had been a robbery,
04:20even the American team that was saved,
04:22a camera is stolen and that camera continues to broadcast,
04:25and where does it end? In Villa Carlos Gardel.
04:27Pablo Ponzón was working there in Villa Carlos Gardel.
04:31What did you see? What else do people tell you there?
04:35How are you, Rolando?
04:36Well, as I was saying, we returned to Villa Carlos Gardel after a long time,
04:40it was a historically hot territory,
04:45it had a strong change in the last urbanization works.
04:52When today one arrives in the neighborhood,
04:54Villa Carlos Gardel is not the same as it was ten years ago.
04:57What happens is that it is seen that the urbanization does not lower the insecurity.
05:02Exactly, at least in what is this stage, it does not end down.
05:06Let's remember, last year, we were analyzing it, Rolando, with you yesterday,
05:11for example, a chase where a patrolman enters the neighborhood,
05:16there are some shots, they end up robbing the patrolman who enters the neighborhood
05:23and finally leaves him elsewhere.
05:27That is, it is a group of people who live there,
05:30most of them locked up in themselves,
05:34with groups of kids who get together in the corner,
05:38who will work for someone else.
05:40They are disorganized, but they are.
05:42Yes, but that is the paradoxical thing,
05:44because we are not talking about a big cartel or big bands,
05:49like Rosario, where they are much more organized,
05:54or in some places in Conurbano, where they are real narco bands.
05:57Here they are kids, and the neighborhood also has a gendarmerie, just like Fuerte Apache.
06:03That's right, we had information that the gendarmerie was in the neighborhood
06:07when we started asking ourselves, I said to myself,
06:10it has been for a long time, and many times,
06:13when there is a group of uniformed people,
06:16whether they are from the Fuerte Apache or not,
06:18who have been in a territory for a long time,
06:20the relaxation begins, let's say.
06:22Perhaps it does not begin to relax,
06:24perhaps not being in all the places where it was intended,
06:27in the first ideas of how to do it,
06:30so that the neighborhood is calmer.
06:33People asked the gendarmerie to go to the spiciest territories,
06:36now nothing changes, look,
06:38the gendarmerie that they kill in the area of El Palomar,
06:44the car escapes and enters Fuerte Apache,
06:47in a place where there are discarded cars that come from other robberies,
06:50and evidently pass in front of the gendarmes,
06:52that is, the guys who came to kill the gendarmerie pass in front of the gendarmes,
06:55and the gendarmes are not even aware.
06:58This is the case in which the car ends in Fuerte Apache.
07:03Unlike Fuerte Apache,
07:06Carlos Gardel has an innumerable number of entrances,
07:09therefore you would have to, for this concept,
07:12say, well, grab and close,
07:14have a lock effect on this neighborhood,
07:16which is dangerous,
07:18to analyze who comes out and who enters.
07:20It is not that simple,
07:22because it has practically 16 entrances,
07:2416, 17, 18 entrances.
07:26You remember, unlike Gardel,
07:29in the case of the Army of the Andes neighborhood,
07:33the gendarmerie was positioned in strategic points.
07:38Of course, in the case of the Army of the Andes,
07:40it was withdrawn at the time.
07:42Now they came back.
07:43In fact, on the weekend,
07:45during the whole week,
07:47from Friday to the weekend,
07:50different nodes of the buildings of Fuerte Apache.
07:56But why does this confusion appear?
07:58Rolando, where we are,
08:00you ask about Carlos Gardel,
08:02and I call you Fuerte Apache.
08:04Well, because in reality,
08:06for the whole neighborhood of Morón,
08:08or of 3 Febrero,
08:09the one they steal from,
08:11practically, automatically,
08:13they take over the Carlos Gardel neighborhood.
08:15And what has to be said is that
08:17the problem is not only in the Carlos Gardel neighborhood.
08:20And that the problem that was already bad,
08:22evidently, with the defunding of the security,
08:25it will get worse.
08:26This is a very simple analysis.
08:28Yes, there was also the question of Guita, indeed.
08:31What they say from the program in Buenos Aires is that
08:34in the cuts of Miley,
08:36different funds were cut.
08:38One had to do with the installation of luminaries,
08:41loans for the installation of luminaries in the municipalities.
08:44That's why today,
08:45in a good part of the urban area,
08:47there is a deterioration of the light.
08:49And that generates a greater feeling of insecurity.
08:53Then, another thing that is also seen
08:55is that there was a fund for security
08:57and for the purchase of patrols,
08:58and those things that were also cut
09:00as part of the Miley-Kicillof fight.
09:02And that also has an impact on insecurity.
09:06Yes, the neighbor does not care much
09:08about what political sign the lieutenant is,
09:11or who is as a governor,
09:14or whoever is in the nation.
09:16As a neighbor, the only thing that interests you
09:18is to be able to go out to the street
09:19and not to be killed, basically.
09:21So, many times this discussion ends
09:23in which everyone blames the other,
09:27they look the other way.
09:29And in reality,
09:31the neighbors have been complaining for a long time.
09:34In fact, there were meetings last week,
09:36people who have already stolen six or seven times
09:38from each of them.
09:39It is simply good to see what they are going to do,
09:41how we are going to agree,
09:43how we are going to stop this wave.
09:45It is a real mess.
09:47We saw it again last week,
09:49as heated in this western area.
09:52But according to all indications,
09:54what is going to mark you is that,
09:56with the money you had,
09:58you had problems, because you had them,
10:00because, let's say,
10:02the problems in December did not start
10:05with Miley-Kicillof,
10:06regarding the issue of insecurity in the area,
10:09but much earlier.
10:10The truth is that,
10:12the problem, for example,
10:14is that you, as a municipality,
10:16can collect much less money,
10:18because there is a recession,
10:20in which the national government
10:22takes out funds that are for security,
10:26or that were already planned for security.
10:29On the other hand, they tell you,
10:31well, but in reality the money that is there
10:33was not executed in the same way.
10:35Yes, but nothing indicates that,
10:37with the cut of funds,
10:39things are going to improve.
10:41Pablo, thank you for the contact.