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00:0015 seconds to find out who the Legendary Comedian is!
00:0515 seconds!
00:06Tonight, we'll be introducing the Legendary Comedian to you in a quiz!
00:10Retirement is not something you can decide by yourself.
00:16It's up to you to decide.
00:20Well, yeah.
00:22Let's start with Beat Takeshi's retirement.
00:26I think I'll retire when things get bad.
00:29I see.
00:30It's obvious that he's going to retire.
00:34I want to keep eating with this.
00:38Furthermore,
00:40Shibata has been told by the Legend, Ken Shimura...
00:43I've always been told that.
00:47I've been told that a lot.
00:49Yahagi's surprising past is also obvious.
00:53I've always wanted to be a disciple of the Master.
00:57Really?
00:59There's a hint of life in the words left by the Legend.
01:04Today's guest is Ken Yahagi!
01:08Ken Yahagi!
01:10I'm Ken Yahagi.
01:12Do you have any words or sayings that you cherish?
01:16Well, I do cherish the words that my parents told me.
01:22What is it?
01:23What I cherish is...
01:25I won't become a thief.
01:28You've been told that since you were a kid.
01:30The whole world has told me that.
01:32That's what I cherish.
01:34It's not love.
01:36It's not love.
01:37It's not love.
01:38Let's get started.
01:41From the 1970s to the 1980s,
01:45the ratings of three Kammuri TV shows exceeded 100%.
01:50100% ratings?
01:52Ken Yahagi, who was called the 100% man of ratings,
01:56has a saying about how to get along with people.
02:01Get along with people of high status.
02:06They will be your allies in the future,
02:09and it will also lead to a job increase.
02:11He's a newcomer.
02:13That's what it means.
02:14But he's not a high-ranking person.
02:16He's a low-ranking person.
02:17Young?
02:18Isn't he a member of a production company?
02:21He is.
02:22He is a high-ranking person.
02:23There is a person with a high position in a production company.
02:26He is a member of a production company.
02:29He has a high position.
02:30He has a high position.
02:33Get along with people of high status.
02:36They will be your allies in the future,
02:39and it will also lead to a job increase.
02:41I'm not trying to be friendly with you, you know.
02:44Of course not.
02:45Akashiya Sanma, the laughing monster,
02:48talks about his life.
02:51Hop. Step.
02:54The cycle of his life.
02:57Are you kidding me?
02:58Step.
02:59Back.
03:00Step. Back.
03:01Isn't it hop?
03:02Hop. Step. Hop.
03:04It's not a jump.
03:05It's not a jump.
03:07Hop. Step. Hop.
03:08It's a cycle, right?
03:10Hop. Step. Hop.
03:14Hop. Step. Slip.
03:18It's a cycle of his life.
03:21He's good at this.
03:23Hop. Step. Slip.
03:25You'd think the third one would be a joke,
03:28because it's Sanma.
03:29But it's a slip.
03:32It's not a jump.
03:33I guess it's fine.
03:37Ogiya-hagi is hop, step, slip.
03:40Is it faster?
03:41Slip is the first one, right?
03:43It's not slip, slip, hop.
03:46It's from slip to slip, and now it's hop.
03:49You're good at making it up.
03:53Speaking of Ogiya-hagi,
03:54he advanced to the final in the first M-1 Grand Prix in 2001.
04:00I'm Ogiya-hagi.
04:01I'm Ogiya-hagi.
04:02I'm Ogiya-hagi.
04:03Is there a problem?
04:06What have you seen of me?
04:10You're the same as someone who's only seen my appearance.
04:16I've never seen anyone who's only seen your appearance.
04:22The slow-tempo manzai has become a hot topic.
04:28In the M-1 final,
04:30something unthinkable happened in the show race.
04:34But it was the first year of the M-1 Grand Prix.
04:38Right.
04:39I was in the first place.
04:41It was just Tokyo and Ogiya-hagi.
04:44Tokyo manzai.
04:45Right.
04:464th place?
04:474th place?
04:483rd place?
04:49What was the winner?
04:51It wasn't the winner.
04:52It was Nakagawa.
04:53If it wasn't the winner, it was a disadvantage.
04:56Don't eat so much.
04:58If it wasn't the winner, it was a disadvantage.
05:01It was a good fight.
05:02It wasn't a good fight.
05:04Osaka's score was very low.
05:07It can't be helped.
05:09It was 100 points.
05:11In each region.
05:12Right.
05:13What was Osaka's score?
05:1475?
05:15Out of 100?
05:169?
05:19How did you get to the final?
05:21The judges of the King of Contest were too careful.
05:26It was a 1 or 2 point difference.
05:30Shinsuke gave me 50 points.
05:34At that time, there were judges who gave you 50 points.
05:37There were.
05:38That's why I was in the King of Contest.
05:40That's different.
05:41It's okay to have a judge who gives you 50 points.
05:44But it's okay.
05:45I was surprised in the crowd.
05:47I cheered a lot.
05:49I was surprised because I was 9 votes.
05:51I cheered a lot, but I was 9 votes.
05:53I watched it in front of the TV.
05:55That's the story.
05:58We always say it's funny.
06:01It's not a manzai.
06:03It's funny to do a lot.
06:05I was doing it this time.
06:07Suddenly, I started doing it.
06:11There was a story I wanted to do 10 minutes before the show.
06:15I was suddenly embarrassed.
06:18There was a story I wanted to do 10 minutes before the show.
06:20I know.
06:21I didn't know if it was okay to do a story like this.
06:25It's okay.
06:26It's a competition to do that.
06:28That's right.
06:29It's a competition to announce the story that left the result.
06:32There was a good story.
06:34It was a good story.
06:36It's a story.
06:37If you do that, you can change it to a manzai.
06:40That's right.
06:41I had a meeting and did it.
06:44Then 4 minutes?
06:464 minutes.
06:47I only had 3 minutes.
06:49I changed it in the middle.
06:51I changed the story to a manzai.
06:53I don't know why.
06:54The story ended early.
06:56What did you think it was?
07:00Next is the story of Hana Hajime and Crazy Cats,
07:03which fused music and laughter and led the entertainment world of the Showa era.
07:09Hana Hajime's story about the essence of people.
07:14If you look at it long, a man who has it shines.
07:21It's like a short story.
07:23A desire.
07:24If you look at it long.
07:26It's not a flower.
07:27It's not a flower.
07:28It's a habit.
07:29It's a habit.
07:32I like it.
07:33I like it.
07:34I like it.
07:36If you look at it long, a man with dignity shines.
07:42It's a national story group.
07:44It's a story about Shimura, a member of The Drifters.
07:53But it's a real story that makes you happy.
07:56A child?
07:59It's not me.
08:00It's me.
08:01I'm happy.
08:02It's not Ikariya.
08:03It's Ikariya.
08:04That's true.
08:05That's a real story.
08:08Cha-san, too.
08:13Everyone is happy.
08:15That's the real story.
08:18Of course.
08:19That's obvious.
08:21That's what I've been doing for a long time.
08:24You don't have a goal.
08:25You're aiming for it.
08:26Shimura.
08:27I don't think it's okay to accept this person.
08:31I want 100 people to laugh until the end.
08:34Among 100 people.
08:35Does that mean Shimura didn't have a goal?
08:38I don't know.
08:39Maybe Shimura didn't have a goal.
08:42My mother said it wasn't funny.
08:45At that time.
08:46Really?
08:47My parents didn't watch it.
08:49When I was a kid, I didn't watch it.
08:50When I was a kid, I didn't watch it.
08:51What's so funny?
08:53That's what Shimura said.
08:57The older generation.
08:59Yoko Ishino laughed a lot at 5 a.m.
09:025 o'clock?
09:03I laughed a lot at 5 o'clock.
09:05In that sense.
09:06Even if it's just one.
09:08What if the kids laughed at it?
09:10I laughed a lot at that, too.
09:12I loved it.
09:135 o'clock.
09:14I loved it.
09:16I was on a show with Shimura.
09:18What kind of content?
09:19Do you have any words left?
09:21There must be a lot.
09:22I was always told.
09:24If you're going to hit me, hit me harder.
09:26I was told that a lot.
09:27Shimura.
09:28But I'm a pretty strong type.
09:30I told Shimura.
09:32I told Shimura.
09:33You can do more.
09:34You can do more.
09:35When I do it to Daigo.
09:36I'm going to hit you more.
09:37I want Shimura to do that, too.
09:39I'm not as careful as Daigo.
09:41I'm not as weak as Daigo.
09:44I told him that a lot.
09:46I told him to do his best at any time.
09:49But as expected.
09:51I told him that.
09:52That's great.
09:53You haven't been told since then?
09:54After you've become pretty strong.
09:56If you hit me, hit me.
09:57Does it hurt?
09:59I was happy when I was told that.
10:04I thought it was out.
10:05That's what you wanted to say.
10:06Maybe.
10:09Next is the story of the new comedy in Shochiku.
10:13It's called the comedy king of Naniwa.
10:15It's about how Kanbi Fujiyama thinks about the stage.
10:20How to think about the stage.
10:22I'm showing it to the audience.
10:26In the wild.
10:48Don't you think he's showing it to the audience?
10:51No.
10:53見てもろうてんねんね
10:56テレビの視界などで活躍した神岡龍太郎が中山秀之にかけた言葉
11:04ひで、いいか?苦しいときは
11:08とき
11:10自分がすごいな、足が早いなと慢心したときは
11:16ときだから気をつけろ
11:19ヒントは反対の言葉が入ります
11:23苦しいときは楽しいとき
11:25成長してるときと、で衰えてるとき、降りてるとき
11:32落ちてるとき
11:35ひで、いいか?苦しいときは
11:40のぼっているとき
11:42自分がすごいな、足が早いなと慢心したときは
11:48くだっているときだから気をつけろ
11:53素晴らしいね
11:55ヤハギさんはどうですか?
11:57これ苦しいなとかって思ってた瞬間ってありますか?
11:59苦しい?
12:01いやーやっぱないね
12:03ないの?
12:05一回も苦しくない?
12:07全然のぼってないね
12:09全然一回ものぼってない
12:11だからね、のぼってないから
12:13ないよやっぱ苦しかったときなんか
12:15珍しいわ
12:17仕事をぎゅうぎゅうにするとかあんましてないよね
12:21でもそれはあった、若手のときに
12:23本当にさ
12:25みんな経験してることだけど
12:27一日5本も6本もさ
12:29入ってて
12:31本当にね3本限界なんだよね
12:33何とかわかったの
12:353本目でね、本当は2本が限界かな
12:373本目がもうダメだね
12:39あのー一つも
12:41面白いこと思い浮かばない
12:43一つも?
12:45若手体力がないから
12:47でもさ、テレビ見てる人はさ
12:493本目の俺って知らないから
12:51知らないしね
12:533本目の俺だからつまんないんだな
12:55って思ってくれないから
12:57教えたいよ
12:59それがテロップにね
13:013本目
13:03だからつまんないやつだと思われちゃうじゃん
13:05ってことは損じゃん
13:07だから3本とかあんまやめてくれと
13:09マネージャーに
13:11つまんなくなっちゃうから
13:13面白いことが浮かばなくなる
13:15体力ないんだよ
13:17そういうことなのね
13:19しょうがないことだこれは
13:21いい生き方してますよね
13:23続いて落語界の風雲寺と呼ばれ
13:25商店の初代司会者でもある
13:27立川男子の
13:29落語についての禁言
13:33落語というのは
13:35に対する
13:37の肯定
13:39悪徳の匂いのしないものは
13:41ゲーとして楽しくない
13:43分かんないな
13:45人は同じ言葉が入ります
13:47善
13:49日常
13:51常識
13:53非常識
13:55非常識の肯定
13:57常識っぽい
13:59落語というのは
14:01常識に対する
14:05非常識の肯定
14:07悪徳の匂いのしないものは
14:09ゲーとして楽しくない
14:11なるほどな
14:13なるほど
14:1777歳の現在でも笑い芸人
14:19映画監督
14:21俳優など
14:23多方面で活躍を続けるビートたけしの
14:25芸人の引退に関する禁言
14:27引退
14:31ゲーごとに関わる人間の引退は
14:33自分で決めるもんじゃないんだよ
14:37決めるのはあくまで
14:39なんだ
14:41お客
14:43お客
14:45世間
14:47世間
14:49国民
14:51たけし
14:55だんかん
14:57だんかんじゃない
15:01ゲーごとに関わる人間の引退は
15:03自分で決めるもんじゃないんだよ
15:05決めるのはあくまで
15:07客なんだ
15:11漫才を辞めた理由
15:13あるはずですよねたけしさん
15:15確かに
15:17それも残してるの
15:19浮かぶんだけど出てこない
15:21言葉が
15:23そのスピードというか
15:25衰えを
15:27漫才を辞めなくちゃいけない
15:29だとしたら俺とっくに辞めてる
15:31俺もそれたちもそうよ
15:33結構出てこないよね
15:35ヤギさんだって浮かばないし出てこないもんね
15:37何にもできない
15:39まず浮かばなきゃ出ないでしょ
15:41確かにね
15:435年くらい前から惰性できてる
15:45感性だけでやってる
15:47すごい人だよ逆に
15:49なんとなく
15:51客が決めることだからね
15:53それでニーズが合っちゃうからしょうがない
15:55俺は客が決めることだと思ってるから
15:57ただ客前に立ってないだけですよね
15:59自分で決めていいんだったらもうとっくに引退する
16:01そうだよねニーズが合っちゃうからね
16:03ニーズがあるからやっぱり
16:05それはたけしさんもおっしゃってるから
16:07スピードのテンポはたぶんそういうことだよね
16:09あのスピードね
16:11それ感じてるよ最近俺たちもね
16:13感じてんの?
16:15顔は出てるけど名前出ないとか
16:17あとテンポがちょっと狂うとか
16:19漫才で?
16:21漫才もあります
16:23漫才を引退するみたいなのは考えたことはないでしょ
16:25だから50歳ですけども
16:2750歳なりの漫才
16:29スローテンポにしたりとか
16:31テンポ遅くなってんだ今
16:33僕らのM1グランプリくらいと比べると
16:35相当遅いですよね
16:37わかんないもんだね
16:39ずっと変わらないですねテンポね
16:41そうねやっぱ最初から早くできなかったからね
16:43そうだよね
16:45憧れますよ
16:47漫才を辞めるときは引退みたいなのあるの?
16:49それは特に考えてないですけど
16:51体的にやっぱダメになってきたら
16:53引退かなと思います
16:55あーもうね
16:57ボケる体力がなくなってくる
16:59悲しい引退だけどね
17:01ボケるのがめんどくさくなったらね
17:03アンタッチロフさんどうですか?
17:05引退ってちょっと考えます?
17:07引退もう全然考えない
17:09ずっと
17:11これでご飯食べたい
17:13なるほど
17:15ショウさん
17:17同じだけどある程度まで行ったら
17:19俺もニーズがなくなるときって
17:21必ず来るのかなって思うから
17:23その時は引退かなって思うけどねやっぱり
17:25まあまあね
17:27マネじゃねえ!どうした!
17:29一緒にやってるんだよ!
17:31え!びっくりしたんだけど!
17:33なんで共感したら怒られなきゃいけないの?
17:35切り離したマネじゃねえ!
17:37一緒で考えてるから
17:39ニコイチですかね
17:41びっくりしたよ
17:43ついてくからね
17:45いや考えないよそんな
17:47オギアリさんあんまそういう話しないですか?
17:49全然ないね
17:51オギアリはすでに南の島へ行きたがるから
17:53そこがねもしかすると
17:55あーもう海外
17:57もう海外で
17:59びっくり過ごしてんだ
18:01オギのやりたいことはなるべくやらしてあげて
18:03始まっちゃうから
18:05人生で一番大きいやつが出る
18:07大きいやらしてあげたい
18:09最後のこれが出る可能性あるのよね
18:11最後のやらしてあげたいね
18:15この後は志村けんの笑いについての禁言
18:21ベタなほうがより高度なテクニックが必要なんですよ
18:25客が
18:27でも笑わせられる
18:31それが本当の笑いのテクじゃないのかな
18:39バカ殿様や変なおじさんなどの
18:41名物キャラクターを生み出した
18:43志村けんの笑いについての禁言
18:49ベタなほうがより高度なテクニックが必要なんですよ
18:53客が
18:55でも笑わせられる
18:59それが本当の笑いのテクじゃないのかな
19:01でも笑わせられる
19:21ベタなほうがより高度なテクニックが必要なんですよ
19:25客が
19:27でも笑わせられる
19:31それが本当の笑いのテクじゃないのかな
19:39国民的人気者となった
19:41レガワ鉄楼のリアクション芸についての禁言
19:47花水はリアクション芸人にとって
19:49これ有名ですよね
19:51ダイヤモンド
19:53ダイヤモンド
19:55宝石とかそういうの
19:57確かダイヤモンドだったよね
20:01言ってるからねテレビで
20:03花水は
20:05リアクション芸人にとって
20:07ダイヤモンド
20:09まあこれはいいか
20:13志村健さんの名言ですが
20:15聞いてみていかがでしょうか
20:17これすごいよこれができるよね
20:19そうですね
20:21達町さんのおでんとかもう
20:23芸術だもんね
20:25伝統芸能ですね
20:27誰もそう予想できるお家だね
20:29それがもう志村さん
20:31志村師匠がね
20:33竜兵さんのやっぱこう上に
20:35叩き込まれたんだよね
20:37そういうことなんじゃない
20:39ずっとやれよっていう
20:41岩木さんどうでしょう
20:43この人すごいなって思う
20:45芸人さんっていらっしゃいますか
20:47芸人さんはねみんなすごくてね
20:49何とも言えないんだよね
20:51何とも言えないそうです
20:53今日何本目なんですか
20:55去年まさかの一本目
20:57一本目
20:59一本目だけどやっぱ30分で使えちゃうから
21:01なるほど
21:03だってさみんなそれぞれすごすぎて困るよね
21:05確かに
21:07俺でも本当はあれだよ
21:09弟子になろうかなと思った
21:11え
21:13え
21:15え
21:17気象庁より当たるんですか
21:19はい
21:21明日10月9日水曜日の
21:25やはりは尊敬している
21:27芸人を激迫
21:29俺でも本当はあれだよ
21:31男子師匠の弟子になろうかな
21:33と思ったことなんだよね
21:35え
21:37そうだよ俺立川流に入ろうと思って
21:39白木さんに会った時に言ったんだもん俺
21:41本当は白木さんの次ぐらいの
21:43弟子だったかもしれないんだと
21:45年齢的に
21:47男子師匠のラグボーが好きなんだ
21:49男子師匠が好きなんだ
21:51え
21:53ラグボーってなんかさ
21:55大変そうじゃない
21:57弟子に入ってさ
21:59一応さ
22:01俺でも野望があったわけ
22:03お年寄りが来てるね
22:05寄せて来てるイメージがあるけど
22:07俺が入っていって新しいラグボーね
22:09革命を
22:11そしてそのラグボー界にすごく飾られた
22:13へえ
22:15みたいなことを思ったの
22:17一回ね
22:19でも俺なんかできるわけねえだろ
22:21早いじゃん
22:2330分で疲れちゃうからね
22:25すごいさ偉そう
22:27相談なんか大変だよ
22:29偉そうに何言ってんだと思って
22:31入んなかっただけだ
22:33思いはあった
22:35気づけたんだ自分にちゃんと
22:37俺を誘って漫才コントの方に行った
22:39本当は男子賞一番尊敬した
22:41審査員男子賞いらっしゃいませんでした
22:43いた
22:45男子賞だけが俺たちのことを評価してくれたの
22:47だからすっごい嬉しかった
22:49めちゃくちゃ嬉しい
22:51好きな人が
22:53ディーガルセンター満喫を彷彿させるって
22:55やっぱそのアピールきてたんだ
22:57それが誰か分かんなかった
22:59なんでよ
23:01ディーガルセンター
23:03その後調べなさいよ
23:05過去の放送は手朝で
23:07ディーバーのお気に入り登録もお願いします