" Aaeni Tarmeem Mein Kuch Bhi Choup Kar Nahi Kya Gaya Do Mah Media Par Bhi Behas Hoti Rahi "
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00:00Taimur, tell me this.
00:02I am saying this because the 27th is yet to come.
00:06We know that it will come.
00:08If all the parties keep their original agreement,
00:12and later alterations are made, changes are made,
00:15negotiations are made,
00:17I just don't understand how to hide documents.
00:20Do you agree that if all the parties keep the agreement,
00:22then it is fine?
00:23Yes, Taimur.
00:26Mr. Malik, you understand, I understand, he understands.
00:31But this is not a big deal.
00:33But again, you say, look,
00:35if I pick two or three things,
00:37the first thing you said is absolutely correct.
00:40And why is it necessary
00:42that all politicians and all parties stand up
00:46for democracy?
00:48Because Bilal is saying that he took Imran Khan's name.
00:52I will tell you two incidents.
00:55Recently, some England fans
00:57wanted to sit in the Imran Khan enclosure in Pindi Test.
01:01They were told that it was full,
01:03when it was closed there.
01:06That's the level of fear.
01:08There is so much fear.
01:10I saw a clip on WhatsApp yesterday,
01:15whether you call it digital terrorism.
01:18Someone said that it is very bad
01:20that our coach, Gary Kirsten,
01:23he was fired in this way.
01:26He didn't coach even one day.
01:29So someone else answered him.
01:31No one, our world cup winning captain is also in jail
01:34when no case was proved against him.
01:37His sentence is suspended.
01:40So this is the true face
01:43of what you said, elected autocracy.
01:46I will call it brute force democracy.
01:49Bilal himself said
01:51that if we don't have numbers,
01:53then we will use brute force.
01:55And he did that.
01:57I am most sorry for the role of the People's Party
02:01because they really have a history.
02:04Maybe in Chequered,
02:06but there is a history where they
02:08stood up for constitutionalism at some point.
02:11People at least ascribe.
02:14Instead of saying that democracy is the best revenge,
02:17brute force is the best revenge.
02:21But democracy should not be
02:23a best revenge from the people.
02:25Mr. Khaira is very blunt.
02:27He always speaks openly.
02:29He said that there are some ground realities.
02:32Things have to be done. Everything happens.
02:35I am just saying that
02:37why do you hide everything from people?
02:40If people have elected you,
02:42you hide it from people.
02:44If you don't have any wrong argument,
02:46you hide it from the media. Why?
02:48Mr. Khaira, we have been doing a talk show with you for 2 months.
02:51For 2 months, we have been discussing
02:53judicial commission and constitutional court
02:55versus benches.
02:56If we are not talking about the principles
02:58and salient features of this term,
03:00then what are we doing?
03:02We were telling you that drafts are being shared.
03:04Drafts are dynamic.
03:05When the draft is final,
03:06something will be shared with you.
03:08It was also shared with the Bar Council.
03:10It was also taken input from them.
03:12It was also shared in committees.
03:14It was shared among the communities.
03:16Sir, I have to categorically deny this.
03:24Absolutely false assertion
03:26that something was done in secret.
03:28Vociferous, loud debate.
03:30Daily, vibrant debate
03:32was held in the talk shows.
03:34It was held in the parliamentary committees.
03:36It was held among the parties.
03:38All the salient features of this term
03:40were discussed in the talk shows.
03:42The pieces of information
03:44were brought to us.
03:46We listened to you.
03:48We listened to Taimur.
03:50You started answering
03:52the drafts that we showed in the media.
03:54When did you bring your drafts?
03:56Sir, the drafts were to be received
03:58when the final was to be held.
04:00But, I remember…
04:02Sir, you don't like this.
04:04Sir, where did we get the drafts?
04:06No, no.
04:08The drafts would have been leaked.
04:10The drafts would have been leaked.
04:12I remember Azam Tarar's speech
04:14on the floor of the house
04:166-7 weeks ago.
04:18He said that these are the points
04:20that the parties are talking about
04:22in this term.
04:24When there was a consensus,
04:26the drafts were brought to the
04:28parliamentary committees
04:30and further comments were made.
04:32Now, why should we keep
04:34one thing in front of you
04:36until the final is held?
04:38Let me ask a question.
04:40When everyone agreed,
04:42did you listen to the viewpoints
04:44of the parliament
04:46for 2-3 days?
04:48Sir, we went to the committee
04:50again and again.
04:52I am talking about the parliament.
04:54Sir, the members of the parliament
04:56supported their committees.
04:58Now, listen to me.
05:00The parliamentary committee
05:02is there to come with an agreed draft.
05:04That doesn't mean that
05:06everyone sitting inside
05:08has to then debate an agreed draft.
05:10This is the concept.
05:12No, the parties trust their committee members.
05:14They trust their leadership.
05:16They tell them to make the draft.
05:18Even after that,
05:202-2.5 hours before voting,
05:22there were speeches.
05:24Which party did not give a speech?
05:26The French benches did not give a speech.
05:28Sir, democracies do not work like this.
05:30Parties do work like this.
05:32All of you are party members.
05:34Sir, you can say whatever you want.
05:36The parliamentary process has been followed.
05:38The parties have given their representatives.
05:40They have had a threadbare discussion.
05:42Secondly,
05:44even during the time
05:46that these issues were being discussed
05:48in the house of the Mullahs
05:50and in the special parliamentary committee,
05:52people were sharing their views
05:54on the assembly floor.