MEDI1TV Afrique : Abidjan Pagne : Le mariage traditionnel réinventé à travers le textile africain - 27/10/2024
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00:00Welcome to this new edition of your show dedicated to African fashion.
00:19Today we dive into the universe of the textile with a particular focus on traditional marriage
00:26through the African textile.
00:30We will explore how these emblematic fabrics,
00:34bearers of culture and history,
00:36were reinvented to sublimate contemporary nuptial ceremonies.
00:40To talk about it, I have the pleasure of receiving the laureate
00:44and the second finalist of the Abidjan-Pagne competition together.
00:50We will discover their journey, their vision of fashion
00:54and the way they were able to marry tradition and modernity through their creations.
01:01Abran, Agathe, laureate of the Best Accessory Prize, welcome.
01:06Thank you, Madam.
01:07Also with us, Ibrahim Franky, second prize, Best Accessory Prize.
01:12Thank you for being with us on the set of Africa Chic.
01:16So, when you go out in such a competition, how do you feel first?
01:22Well, we feel joy.
01:24It's all a project and when we see that the project has been completed, we are very happy.
01:30So I'm already happy and that gave me confidence again.
01:35It's clear. Ibrahim?
01:36When you go out in such an event, it's a pride to be able to participate in such an event.
01:45And it gives you more work.
01:50It means that you have to make even more effort when you go out in such an event.
01:56Because everyone has their eyes on you.
01:58So, for our viewers who don't know you, let me quickly introduce you to Agathe.
02:04So, I'm Agathe Abran Yerouinou, Accessory Costume Designer of Benin origin
02:11and laureate of the Abidjan-Pagne Contest.
02:14Thank you. Ibrahim?
02:15I'm Koulibaly Ibrahim Fonki, Costume Designer and Accessory Designer.
02:19Second finalist of the Abidjan-Pagne Festival.
02:23So, how did you experience this competition in particular?
02:28Why did you participate?
02:30Okay, thank you.
02:32First of all, I had to participate as a costume designer.
02:39I've always watched the event from afar.
02:42I wanted to participate as a costume designer.
02:44But I couldn't participate as a costume designer.
02:49When I saw the poster, I was so happy to be able to participate as a creator.
02:56Agathe, was it the same for you? What motivated you?
02:59What motivated me is that I usually participate in national competitions.
03:04So, I thought of doing something international.
03:07That's why the Abidjan-Pagne Festival was so welcome.
03:09So, I started.
03:10Quietly.
03:11And it worked.
03:12It worked.
03:13Very good.
03:14So, what does this competition represent for you today?
03:18This competition represents a kind of pride for me, first of all.
03:23A kind of pride.
03:25And it proves that I have talent, that I can go further with what I started.
03:33And here I am.
03:35And you are with me.
03:36Agathe, why is this competition important for promoting African costumes?
03:41I think this competition is important for promoting African costumes.
03:46Because thanks to this competition, we as accessories can show our work.
03:52So, it's like a place of demonstration for us.
03:55In addition to that, we have opportunities.
03:57We have a lot of opportunities.
03:59We have the chance to collaborate with other people.
04:01So, this competition is not an average competition.
04:04It's a high-level competition.
04:06We know that in Benin, Pagne is a material that is used a lot.
04:11So, it was something that was welcome.
04:14Yes, it was welcome.
04:15I was already used to using Pagne in my creations.
04:19But I didn't know what to do in this dimension.
04:22Because it's a higher dimension.
04:24When you look at the creations, I didn't know what to do at this level.
04:28So, it was a higher level.
04:31Ibrahim, this is the first time that you and Pagne have a new story.
04:36Yes, it's the first time with me.
04:39I work a lot with pearls.
04:41And it was the first time that I could participate in this event
04:46and use Pagne to make creations.
04:50And it was a real pleasure to be able to use Pagne to make my creations.
04:55And I'm proud of it.
04:57Very good, he is proud.
04:59So, before going any further, I propose to see the creations of our laureate.
05:04In the 7th edition of the Pagne annual.
05:07It created a first prize.
05:11So, let's watch her passage and we'll be back.
05:30Pagne
05:35My king, the Europeans wish to conquer us.
05:40They will not stop until the whole of Africa is theirs.
05:46We must fight back.
05:48For our people.
05:50Pagne is gone.
05:52You are asking me to take them to war?
05:56War.
05:57Some things are worth fighting for.
06:07You are called to join the king's guard.
06:12No kingdom in all of Africa shares this privilege.
06:17Train hard, fight harder.
06:21We fear no one.
06:22And we fear no pain.
06:27I offer you a choice.
06:31Fight or we die.
06:53To be a warrior, you must kill your tears.
06:59We are the spear of victory.
07:03We are the blade of freedom.
07:22Pagne
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08:13If you got the power, I need you, everybody, no law for me, you know I got no choice.
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15:38So then in the end there's the manicure not the beauty salon, Ibrahim Francky!
15:45Ibrahim, what were your sources of inspiration to reinterpret African styles in modern wedding outfits.
15:52I have to say that my sources of inspiration come from everywhere.
15:58The first source of inspiration is the hairstyle that we see in weddings.
16:08Women call it chignon.
16:13I wanted to reproduce the chignon to put it...
16:21In value.
16:22In value.
16:23But in a different way.
16:24In a different way with the comb.
16:25That was the first idea of the young lady.
16:29And I was also inspired by a bit of everything.
16:34But there are more pearls than combs.
16:37Combs are not something you are used to using.
16:41But from this competition, do you consider using the comb in certain creations?
16:48Exactly.
16:50I even wanted to perfect myself by enrolling in an accessory school
16:57to learn better how to use the comb.
17:00That's about it.
17:02Ibrahim, according to you, what is the importance of the comb in traditional marriage in Africa?
17:08First of all, in Africa, traditional marriages are more based on the comb.
17:17And when you go like that, you have several patterns of combs that are used for marriages.
17:24Such as, we can say, the Akan combs.
17:31That's it.
17:32Which we commonly call...
17:35The kita.
17:36The kita, that's it.
17:37Which we commonly call the kita.
17:40I didn't want to take the kita in a way...
17:46Excuse me, lend me the word.
17:49No, we are listening to you, we are attached to your lips.
17:52You didn't want to use the kita.
17:54And what kind of comb did you use?
17:56I didn't want to use the kita, to be precise.
18:00But the kita that we can...
18:03The kita in a comb, that's it.
18:05Printed.
18:06Printed, that's it.
18:07Thank you very much.
18:08The printed kita that I wanted to use.
18:10And I also wanted to take different patterns of combs from everywhere.
18:15I didn't want to focus only on the combs that we use for traditional marriages.
18:22I went to the market.
18:24Patterns that are a bit...
18:26Like the original.
18:27Like the original t-shirt that I wanted to reproduce.
18:31While the theme this year, Agathe, was North African.
18:36Is it a theme that was difficult to address when we know that you were laureate?
18:42Well...
18:44It's not a theme that was easy, anyway.
18:46Why?
18:47Because North Africans, what are we used to see?
18:51It's outfits made with traditional combs.
18:55It's rare to find accessories made with traditional combs worn on the day of the wedding.
19:01So there was a contradiction there.
19:04So we had a hard time adapting the accessories to the traditional combs that we had.
19:09So the theme was a bit complex, really.
19:12But in the end, we just found the best and that's it.
19:17And what was the main challenge for you?
19:20The main challenge for me was how to combine the traditional t-shirt from different countries.
19:26Because I didn't want to base myself on one country.
19:29Staying closed.
19:30That's it, I wanted to touch everything.
19:32If you look at my work, you will notice that there is a drawing on one of the accessories.
19:38In the shape of an elephant, the face of an elephant.
19:40For me, it was to represent the Ivory Coast.
19:42There is a motif...
19:44What is it called?
19:46The poa baule.
19:47It was a symbol in Dengra.
19:49Which will represent royalty.
19:51We will find it in Ghana, a bit in the Baule, in the Akan, and everything.
19:55I also went to the Bukinabé park, so I wanted to touch everything.
19:58But how to combine that?
20:00So that it makes sense, so that people understand.
20:02I can understand my work, but does the jury understand?
20:05Does the audience understand?
20:07That was the main challenge.
20:09Ibrahim, at your level, what was the main challenge?
20:13The main challenge was the use of the cloth.
20:17In itself?
20:18In itself.
20:19Because I never used the cloth.
20:21They didn't think I would be able to use the cloth to work with.
20:26And yet, the competition is a cloth competition.
20:29It's a cloth competition.
20:31And I don't know how I was going to do it.
20:33But God knows how to do things.
20:36He did what I could do.
20:38And it ended well.
20:40As I said at the beginning,
20:43I'm going to focus even more on the accessory with the cloth.
20:50Agathe, it's true that I asked Ibrahim about the importance of the cloth in traditional marriages in Africa.
20:57What is your opinion on the question?
20:59I think I joined Ibrahim on the importance of the cloth.
21:02The cloth is the basis of an African marriage.
21:05It depends on the type of cloth you wear at your wedding.
21:08Depending on that, we know what type of person you are.
21:11The Baolé cloth, for example, is worn by kings, high dignitaries.
21:16When you wear it at your wedding, it's as if you were a king or a princess.
21:21There is the king and the queen.
21:23Yes, the queen.
21:25It defines what type of marriage we have in front of us.
21:28That's the basis.
21:30What are your future projects to promote the use of the cloth?
21:35To promote the use of the cloth,
21:39what I have in mind is to try to touch other young girls, other young men,
21:47and train them in the field of accessories.
21:50Because it's a fairly closed field.
21:52We see people who use pearls to make necklaces,
21:55but in terms of fabric, it's something very rare.
21:58If I can at least train a few heads,
22:01not train them for a short time, but for a long time,
22:05these people will also reproduce the same system.
22:08It would be a cycle.
22:10In this way, on a national or international level,
22:13we will have accessories that work with the cloth.
22:16I think this is my basis.
22:19To train people who will also train in their time.
22:22This is my way of promoting the cloth.
22:24Can you proudly say that your expectations were met at the end of this competition?
22:30Yes, my expectations were met, but not 100%.
22:33I think there is still a little bit left.
22:35Not much, though.
22:37Not much, not much, not much.
22:40There is still a little bit left.
22:42I'm such a perfectionist, so I'm waiting for the 10% that remains.
22:45I hope it will come.
22:46Very well, it will come, thank God.
22:48Ibrahim, your projects in the context of the promotion of the cloth,
22:53a first participation.
22:55Maybe next year, why not?
22:57We will see Ibrahim return to Bijon Pagne with other new patterns.
23:03For my project, to promote the cloth,
23:07first of all, as I said, I want to be trained first.
23:10Why not?
23:12Why don't you come with us?
23:14He will come with us.
23:16I want to be trained first.
23:18And when I have the mastery to be able to give it to other people
23:23who would like to enter this field.
23:28And a word of encouragement, let's say, to the young creators
23:32who want to work with the African textile.
23:36The word of encouragement that I can say to my young sisters and young brothers
23:42is not to give yourself limits.
23:45When you feel the thing in you, continue and launch yourself.
23:51No matter what, you have to launch yourself and it will pay off.
23:57Already, it must be said that in the field of accessories,
24:01it is more ladies that we see.
24:03And for me, it was a real pleasure to be called an accessorist.
24:08And I hope that through my experience,
24:13other young men will also start to enter this field and then grow up with it.
24:23I remember that Ibrahim was a model before being an accessorist.
24:28I am still a model.
24:30Still a model.
24:32So I go back to Agathe.
24:34What advice would you give to these young creators
24:37who want to reinvent the tradition in their collection?
24:41What I can simply say to these young brothers and sisters
24:44is to fight for what you want.
24:47It is important that we are passionate about something.
24:51From the beginning, it's complicated because we don't have an entrance.
24:54All you have, you spend.
24:56But you say to yourself, is it going to pay off tomorrow?
24:58In these cases, I would not be at the same level.
25:00Have faith in what you are passionate about.
25:03And it pays off tomorrow.
25:05In the field of fashion, it is not something that pays off at the moment.
25:09It takes 50, 10, 20 years for it to stop.
25:12So fight and be passionate.
25:14Don't look at anyone.
25:15For example, when I say I am an accessorist,
25:17we say, what is an accessorist?
25:19What is an accessorist?
25:21Is it stylism? Is it accessorism?
25:23It's weird.
25:24And elsewhere, we say to ourselves,
25:25it's because you didn't do long studies that you are here.
25:27I did a license in aplastic.
25:29So I am also a drawing teacher.
25:31That's my thing.
25:32But it doesn't stop me.
25:33So fight for what you want.
25:35And move forward.
25:36The rest will come naturally.
25:37Very good.
25:38Very good.
25:39Anyway, very well said.
25:40Abram, Agathe, Luria, for the Best Accessorist of 2024
25:44at the Bijon Pagne Festival.
25:46Ibrahim, Frankie, Koulibaly,
25:48second prize, Best Accessorist.
25:50In any case, thank you both
25:52for being on the Africa Chic stage.
25:54It was a real pleasure to chat with you
25:57about your different, let's say, prizes.
26:00There you go.
26:01You understood it.
26:02Dear viewers, we are at the end of this show.
26:04Thank you to all those who followed us.
26:06Thank you to the team in the region.
26:07See you next week for another episode.
26:10Until then, take care.