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00:00I'm ready for banner 19. Let's go. Let's throw it up there
00:05They should have just hung to last night. Just hang the second
00:08Would they show it would TNT show it if they hung a second banner?
00:11Would we get a chance to see that?
00:12You know what the hell about the commercial break by the time they're back a banner 18
00:16Yeah, go up then you start raising up the next one and then by the time they're back
00:19We can see I time it out. Perfect. Yeah, let's send this thing to the rafters
00:22All the fans gather around at home work. Here we go
00:25And they're like, let's cut the break and then let's get a full concert and then the game I did
00:30I like shabuzi, but I but I didn't I didn't I
00:33Didn't need to miss the stupid banner raising like that up there. Is that a whole point? I what would think that's the whole point
00:39It's banner night. Let's see the banner. Nah. Nah. Nah
00:43Also, they didn't let show you they didn't steam the banner either. He does that I did would you steam it?
00:47Let's show pags walk out there and wave to the crowd like no. No, can we get maybe cut pags everybody?
00:52Maybe cut who is the other guy who came after pags? Maybe cut all the assistant coaches. Yeah, and show me the banner
00:58Banner mine for the banner banner Michael. That's what I care about. They're like nah, but anyway Celtics look pretty good last night
01:05I would say well, my hope is if they can just get Porzingis back
01:07They might be okay if Porzingis comes back healthy the Celtics might have a chance this year
01:12No, they're insane. Like they are they are a wagon. This is why
01:17Yesterday in tear Tuesday, they were in a tear by themselves. They had their own tear
01:21I feel good need a tear between them and everybody else now
01:23Yeah, I'm starting to think so. It's all like a gap
01:26Celtics nobody just like nobody like purgatory and then everybody else because we had the Knicks in the second tier your Knicks might need
01:33Jones's Nick might need to downgrade them. They looked horrible now. They just got thrown together like yesterday
01:39Yeah, so I will give them a little bit of an owl, but that was a wire-to-wire
01:44Beatdown and if the Celtics shoot anywhere close to that, they're unbeatable
01:48Like there's just nothing you can do to stop them because I I half joke like they're what?
01:53Third best player is gonna miss most of the season. They basically won a title last year without them
01:58They might get them back. They might not who cares, but if they do they become kind of unfair
02:04now they might not have the
02:06Like the the MVPs that that curry and Durant had when they were playing a few years ago with Golden State Tatum
02:12Based on last night Tatum may have something to say about we might pop say like when those when those guys get put together
02:16you were like as long as they're on the court, they're gonna win it and
02:20I'm saying like they might not have the standing in the league where you know
02:23If you ranked all the players which ESPN did and I'm sure in 2017 18 curry and Durant were both in the top five, right?
02:30So you don't have like two top five players, but I have the same kind of feeling where
02:35They're gonna win every series. Like that's how I felt about Golden State for those two years
02:38You're like it's kind of unfair, but whatever they rigged the system
02:41They did it, you know tip your hat to them
02:43But they have to win it and I feel like the Celtics are the are the same way
02:48Especially when they're just like moving the ball at the way that they are you're getting wide open threes
02:52Every guy on the court can shoot threes, you know, it's one of the reasons why when Brad took over
02:58He let he put together the team. I think that he wanted to coach, you know that Danny didn't give him
03:03He's like I'm getting rid of smart. I'm getting rid of Brogdon. I get rid of time Lord. I'm getting rid of these guys
03:08They know what everything needs what this team needs. I know what this team needs and he immediately did it
03:14They're not like they're they're they're nasty and
03:17You know, there's all the different things you can get into Jason Tatum shot looks like it is he fixed it
03:23They they just work so well together. They're a tough matchup for everybody
03:27They play defense like there's everything that you want about the team
03:29I thought you just you never know how like a banner raising is gonna go in any of the sports
03:34You're like, oh is there gonna be like a little bit of a like a lull or a little bit of like that?
03:38Oh, look at these rings. I bet the under last night. So I did some of that
03:42Yeah, I even read I raised the total and bet the under and it was over in five minutes
03:45I took I felt really good about my Celtics minus six, but then you know me
03:49I'm a silly goose with the parlays and I just started adding a bunch of crap that didn't hit
03:53I had Derek white threes that hit it was like three threes. He hit that like 30 seconds. I had Jalen three threes
03:59That was fun. Yeah, Jalen didn't get to 25. Oh, that's what he gets like on 23. He sat a lot
04:04I needed I needed an eighth Tatum rebound as well. He was only halfway there. Well, you know what happened?
04:08The guy's that yes to dominate they were up by too much heat too soon
04:13You're gonna have to start betting unders on the Celtics individual points because they're gonna be up by so much
04:17They're gonna sit these guys unless you're betting over on Peyton Pritchard. Say how's her Richard over Tillman house or over?
04:23Yeah, cornet overs. Oh, yeah. These are your these are your over. That's where you want to operate
04:27Well, we'll figure out the betting what a wagon algorithm. No, no dominant showing 132 to 109. Jason Tatum was awesome last night
04:34Simple question for you all day long here on Jones and Keefe. Is anybody beating this team?
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05:02We I I do want to let you know, it's not gonna be all Celtics all day
05:06Gerard Mayo
05:08May not survive your one
05:10According to some hot seat, so we'll get to that later on in the program Mayo is scheduled to talk at 1120
05:16Oh boy, which means we're gonna hear his reaction to any questions about his job security. What's he gonna walk back today?
05:22Great anything to walk back, you know, it's something I don't know exactly what it is, but you know, it's something
05:26Yeah, we'll hopefully hear his answer to Bill Belichick calling him out earlier in the week
05:31So we'll do all that later on in the show
05:33It's also would you rather Wednesday today here on Jones and Keefe, but a lot of Celtics talk
05:38Yeah, Robert Ori seven-time NBA champ seven rings young turp back. There was flabbergasted seven rings
05:43I don't know if any of them are as gaudy as the ring that was given out last night
05:47I can't it was a different time
05:49I would say on his rings, but no Ori at least won his rings in the time those rocket rings
05:54I'm guessing we're pretty modest. Maybe even the Laker in rocket rings. Sounds like rocket rings. Sounds like an app
05:59I bet the rocket rings. It just looked like a wedding band, you know, like back at the 90s
06:03Okay, congrats you won. What is this? Yeah now I bet I bet his Spurs rings are
06:09Pretty like diamond. Those are pretty god. I would think so. Yeah. Well, I heard Wiggy Wiggy was a little ring
06:14Shy last night orange with Porzingis. Yeah, that's the thing
06:17He's like Wiggy got in on the ground floor. So you got that first Patriots one, which is awesome
06:21But compared to the other ones, it's like I think you could fit Wiggy's Super Bowl ring inside the shirt Celtics rings
06:26Who's paying for those rings?
06:27That's what I want to know like that. Is that like for the future owner of the Celtics?
06:32By the way, we kind of went crazy with definitely you I mean, it's not WIC
06:37Paid for those rings. I don't know but it wasn't it wasn't WIC
06:40No, that's probably like 12 easy payments of like 12 million
06:44You know it was it was either dead that or it's the future owner of the Celtics with Wig didn't pay you think WIC
06:50Ponied up for those those things are insane. I do have a question about those like at what point do we change it to?
06:55something else like I know it is a
06:57There's like a significance to it. Like are you like a ring? Well, not if it's something that you can't even wear
07:03First of all, who's wearing really wearing ring. I ordered myself a fantasy football championship ring last year. It's not very it's not
07:08Yeah, did you bring it in today today? Yeah. No, I sure I'm talking rings
07:12You saw it in I bring it in I should be and I'll show them off next you wear it like during the draft
07:17Yes. Yeah. Yeah during during our auction really anytime we do anything fantasy
07:21Rubies do other guys get rings when they win or juice your own. Well, well, I started a trend others have
07:28Now we're all ordering rings. But yeah mine. It's not very ostentatious. It's not like this where I get, you know, it's subtle
07:33Yeah, but I just like what the I think at one point you were probably supposed to wear them now
07:38It's like you can't wear that
07:39No, it's if you're walking around the street with like a million dollars on your finger comes in multiple pieces
07:43I'd be insulted if somebody didn't mug me for it
07:51I'm a large coffee
07:55Punched in the back of the head you're done
07:58Okay, is this catching the light for you?
08:01off my finger and
08:03Sold immediately. Yeah, like they're just they're so over-the-top. That's even what our guy Joe Missoula said
08:09Yeah, I'm gonna wear this. No. Yeah, I can't wear this. No nuts
08:12We did get some submissions for a potential Joe Missoula game based on his post game. Ah, yeah
08:18So we'll we'll have our ears on that. It's only been a while. I mean, it's a legitimate wild man
08:24Yeah, no one no one has changed their image in a in a calendar year or a quicker amount of turnaround time than that
08:30Man, I couldn't stand them
08:32I couldn't stand when he would fight with Gary Washburn about how many threes they took and he's like, well
08:37That's how many shots are those Gary and you're like what and he's like giving these
08:41Nonsense stats at the post-game press conference and then now just talks like a lunatic
08:46But they win every game. Yeah team so good. I'm like, I love this guy
08:49Just I know Wiggy was doing this this morning. We just had the debate like the best coach in the league
08:53Okay, he's not the best it is Bolster and Wiggy's point is Bolster's a little overrated probably true, but he stays sponsor
08:59He's overrated fine. He probably is overrated
09:02Yes, I want to hear this Joe doesn't want anything without LeBron, but he is still the best coach in the league
09:06I think you made a joke is a really good coach
09:07Okay, I think he's a real good coach
09:09I'm gonna tell you if you want to tell me Missoula's the second best coach in the league. I'll start listening there
09:13I'll start listening there. I think he's no doubt about it top five and I would probably put him three
09:19Cuz other guys so who's to uh, Oh Doka. Oh, that is who's I think who joke is really good
09:24I pop of it's not Carlisle not Kerr. I think I think Oh Doka bad night for Kerr last night, by the way
09:29Yeah, so Kerr. I'm a Kerr the shines off of Kerr Popovich the shines way off of Popovich
09:35Like it can't it can't possibly be Popovich. What was the last time they like made the playoffs or did anything of relevance?
09:40He that was a all Tim Duncan thing and maybe he was good at a time, but that ship is sailed
09:45You're not once you're a good coach. I mean, you're always a good cause the rest of your probation. He's got to prove it again
09:49Yeah, he's where bill would be a bill came back
09:51You know what? Like prove it you have a top 10 player in the NBA now talking about pop it not you
09:55I'm talking about pop of it woman. Yama. He's got to figure it out. He's
10:02So that immediately eliminates him from this conversation if you lecture the crowd about booing Kawhi Leonard who wouldn't play for your franchise
10:10If the Spurs fans can't boot Kawhi Leonard then no fan base can knock off the boy
10:17Yeah, like dude make the playoffs
10:20Start booing you so no he's off. I do like Rick Carlisle, but Missoula just beat him head-to-head
10:26Malone won the title with the Nuggets two years ago, but then I don't know didn't get back to the next year
10:30He's probably in the mix, but no Missoula's up there if you want to tell me Missoula is second
10:34I'm not gonna argue. Yeah, you know, I I guess I'd have to go through and really sit down and do my personal list
10:39Missoula who sounds about right that was like in that ESPN survey wasn't he like
10:43Second or third best offense second or third best defense say you're a third motivator players not top five correct
10:48Thanks makes no sound what makes no sense
10:51So anyway real quick Keith and we'll open it up on the phone
10:53Yeah lines are open for you at six one seven seven seven nine seven ninety three seven is anybody beating the Celtics?
10:58I think we can handle this one pretty quickly. Is anybody beating?
11:02This team this year forget shooting like that because I think that's self-evident if they shoot like that. No one's gonna beat him
11:08The one thing I will say, you know Terp came in on cloud nine this morning, but yeah the banner raising
11:14You know the Nuggets beat the Lakers last year
11:18Two years prior the Warriors smoked the Lakers apparently everybody beats the Lakers on opening night nice not the T
11:22Well, I was gonna say besides the Wolves last night
11:25you know the
11:26Two years ago. The Lakers got smoked on opening night by the Warriors. So like it is banner night
11:30It's an electric building. You expect the team to play. Well, you expect them to look good in that scenario
11:34That's I expected them to defend their championship
11:37That's way better than I expected them to look like they looked borderline unbeatable. So is anybody beating them?
11:43I don't know how you make a case for that
11:45The the case would be the Celtics are complacent or Tatum or Jalen Brown you mean in the playoffs, right?
11:52Yeah, obviously they're gonna lose regular season games and what's funny is these great teams
11:56You can look back in the history of it even last year's Celtics team
11:59But they weren't like a historic regular season team
12:01But like even like the 86 Celtics like there would be
12:04Like they would lose to the Pistons not not the 86 Celtics
12:07That was a good team, but like the this version of like you're gonna be like so like two three months from now
12:12Back to back things aren't going well. It's like oh you're playing the Blazers and you lose you're like wait what?
12:16Yeah, so like there's there's one-off weird games like that, but in a seven game series
12:20I can't see it and even I'll give you like people like well, you know, if everybody says healthy
12:25Not even not even like if one or two of their guys are out that might be how deep they are now if it's Tatum
12:31And Brown different story, right?
12:32But if it's like poor Zingas and another bench guy Zingas doesn't play a minute this year
12:36They win they win the time they win the whole thing and it's it's like overkill with him. Yeah, like with him
12:40It's like he's really sweet. He helps
12:44But if he never plays a minute again this team
12:48Yeah, they win again, or at least they should is how I feel. Yeah, I don't I don't really see it. I mean, I guess
12:54especially because now that this group has been together for a full year and some of the stars even longer and then if you even
13:00Include when those guys did play with Horford and then he was gone then he was back
13:03There's a lot of continuity there where a lot of other teams are kind of chasing it and you saw Lillard and Giannis last year
13:10Didn't work Paul George and Embiid this year might not work. They're both hurt already, you know
13:16Bridges and towns and Brunson might not work like didn't look at last night anytime you throw in like that's what the Celtics also did
13:23Now it worked for them last year. They threw some pieces together
13:25But prior to that maybe Kyrie, maybe Kemba maybe Brogdon like all those different combinations didn't work
13:31So the Celtics found one that worked. That's why I would look at
13:35maybe
13:36Denver just because I think Jokic is still individually the best player if you get a really good Jamal Murray by the way when they
13:43Played Denver straight up Denver's number. Yeah
13:46And so like those are regular season games who no one knows my seven game series Russell Westbrook's on the team
13:50So it's like it's almost like
13:53Gotta get
13:54Something that might drag you down. So no, that's just me looking for a team that might be able to
14:01the answer is
14:03They become complacent or they're not as hungry or it's as hard to defend a championship title in the NBA and most teams at least
14:10in the recent
14:11NBA most teams don't defend like something like that. It's not another team where you point at them and go that's the team
14:17So Tatum to me last night was a great sign
14:21and I don't know that this is an FU tour and a message directly to Steve Kerr like
14:27Last night felt that way is Tatum gonna do that all year. I don't know yet, but
14:32That's a different Tatum than we saw in the playoffs and I just want people to pick like do you need Tatum?
14:39Nailing threes like last night. Do you need Tatum being a dominant scorer or do you not need that?
14:43Like which one do you want because people are really celebrating it last night. They're like, oh, I thought Tatum shot was broken
14:49Was I mean there's percentages to show last night to me was a proof at how broken his shot was and the Celtics are so
14:55Good. They won in spite of it. Jalen Brown was so good in the conference finals and NBA finals
15:00They won in spite of it
15:01But don't tell me you don't need Jason Tatum to level up or there's not another level to get to because I think last night
15:08Illustrated that and that that was awesome. I want that Tatum. I want that Tatum all year long
15:13Oh, yeah, and if they get that they're definitely not getting beat. Oh my god
15:16I don't know if that's the Jason Tatum you're gonna get every night
15:19But last night that was I hope he plays like that and I don't mean the eight threes. No, I get you
15:22But I mean aggressive and on top of that still distributing the basketball
15:27But the shot isn't broken like that. That's the Tatum. I want it was broken in the playoffs last year
15:32Yeah, no, this is definitely what I would want
15:34I mean and this is what I think has sort of separated him from that very very
15:38Top two three players in the league that MVP like he's first team all NBA
15:42So he's already way up there and he's highly regarded
15:45But you know people do look at him and they're like, well, it's it's still not Durant in his prime
15:50It's still not, you know, LeBron and his prize still not there
15:53It's like it's like one notch below that but if you're hitting this kind of percentage from from three in particular
15:59But if you're just that efficient of a scorer
16:01He took 18 shots and had 37 points and you didn't really get to the free-throw line
16:05How many threes he took 11 right is 8 of 11 able the team took 61 threes. Okay big bombs away
16:12We are gonna get to their shot selection, yeah and the sustainability of it coming up
16:16It's wild but no, I like Jason Tatum as the team's leading scorer. It's not gonna be like this every single night
16:23I think they also recognize when you know other guys have it going but you know what?
16:26I liked it cuz I I got chirped last night
16:29I said let's pick like is do you want Tatum the dominant scorer or do you want Tatum the the distributor and
16:36People were like, well, he was both last night. He had ten assists. Okay. He also came out firing last night
16:41And that's not Tatum eases into a lot of these games
16:44You guys all know it if you watch the Celtics Tatum eases into a lot of these games last night
16:48He hit their first three
16:50Yep
16:50Which some of us know if you bet someone else to hit the first field goal in the game?
16:54Tatum came out and hit the first three which he rarely does he had a bunch of threes early in that he came out
16:59Hunting and the assist will come. He's a good. He's a good distributor. Yeah, he is
17:04Good at passing out of double teams and finding the open guys that that's an area
17:08He's developed a lot in the last couple of years
17:11But he came out hunting last night and I would like to see more of that aggression
17:15At a tape when I say aggression that that's what I mean
17:18I think he should I also think he can do that because of the other times when star players
17:23Feel like they need to get other players involved like Jimmy Butler is kind of famous for that where he'll not score in the first
17:29Quarter yeah, but that's because his teammates are scrubbier and like I think they need it
17:35Like if they don't get their points right away, they're in trouble
17:38I look at the Celtics and you say if Jalen Brown or Derek white or drew holiday don't score right away
17:46They're not out for the game. Those guys could all they're all capable of a monster second quarter
17:50So like not all team like not all star players can maybe approach it the same way
17:54But Tatum's playing out there with multiple all-stars multiple Olympians multiple all NBA guys like he can
18:00He can get his early if he wants and it's not a detriment to the team. No, it's not
18:05So is that the Tatum they're gonna get all year?
18:07Is that the Tatum you want all year aggressive looking for a shot early or do you not care about that?
18:12Is it all about rebounds and assists and defense?
18:15Like I heard in the postseason last year is anybody beating this team?
18:18And if so, how do they beat this team already text at 3 7 9 3 7 guys over 58 and a half wins
18:25Was the lock of the century? Hope you took it seriously. I didn't but it wasn't that was shockingly low 58 and a half
18:31Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know me one game in I'm thinking 74 already. So go
18:38the record
18:41Oh, yeah, why stop 96? No, it's what I think you mean. Oh, yeah
18:46All the way through is what I would want