Ruidos en las plantas superiores, un olor a colonia antigua, luces que se encienden y apagan solas y puertas que se abren en un misterio municipal. El ayuntamiento limita con la iglesia y el hospital de San Juan de Dios. De ahí, dicen, que se hayan visto espectros de monjes “Llevaban capuchas y no se les distinguían las caras”,
Es el caso de Amalia, que tuvo su primer encuentro con lo paranormal en 1996, el primero de muchos momentos inquietantes, como cuando sintió a sus espaldas una presencia, se giró y vio a una silueta que se alejaba. Una sensación escalofriante, como la que vivió también María en el Salón de Plenos: algo o alguien a sus espaldas que respiraba y que le hizo salir corriendo.
Luces que se apagan y se encienden solas, puertas que se abren de improviso, pasos en la noche en pasillos donde ya no hay nadie, olor a tabaco recién fumado en la antigua zona de Urbanismo, ese olor a colonia “antigua” que describen varios de los testigos… Fenómenos habituales en otros edificios encantados del mundo.
Es el caso de Amalia, que tuvo su primer encuentro con lo paranormal en 1996, el primero de muchos momentos inquietantes, como cuando sintió a sus espaldas una presencia, se giró y vio a una silueta que se alejaba. Una sensación escalofriante, como la que vivió también María en el Salón de Plenos: algo o alguien a sus espaldas que respiraba y que le hizo salir corriendo.
Luces que se apagan y se encienden solas, puertas que se abren de improviso, pasos en la noche en pasillos donde ya no hay nadie, olor a tabaco recién fumado en la antigua zona de Urbanismo, ese olor a colonia “antigua” que describen varios de los testigos… Fenómenos habituales en otros edificios encantados del mundo.
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01:27We don't agree with anything at all.
01:29What was it?
01:30Someone else, 25, from 9, from...
01:36Hey, I have to tell you what...
01:38...2024, Zona Canet de Berenguer, Valencia,
01:41is quite close to the airport.
01:45Let's see if someone else could see this phenomenon
01:47that we have not been able to identify.
01:49Let's see if it was the camouflage radar.
01:52You don't know what Aldo has messed up.
01:54You don't know what Aldo has messed up.
01:56I can imagine it.
01:58No, no, no, no.
01:59It exceeds everything he has done in this program.
02:01Let's see it.
02:08What's up, Iker?
02:09Hey, I have to tell you what happened,
02:11because we are all freaking out here.
02:14It is one of the most intense experiences
02:16I have had here on the program, with a lot of difference,
02:19but it is not at all what we expected.
02:22I am a little angry about that,
02:24because we don't know how many witnesses we are going to have.
02:27People talk to us from the beginning, off the record,
02:30saying that a lot of things are happening there,
02:32especially recently.
02:33And, well, Aldo arrives,
02:34and the typical thing that totally disconcerts you
02:37does not go where you think it is going to go.
02:40But it has been very impressive.
02:42The pity is that there is no way to tell it
02:44to transfer the impression that it has been,
02:46because we are going to be as furious as Aldo himself,
02:49even Julián, who is a piece of marble,
02:52has been moved.
02:53It has been impressive.
03:05I calculate that we will be close to the thousand of places
03:08scanned and revived as a mystery investigation
03:11in this program.
03:13I mean only the enclaves with the supernatural.
03:17I don't think that is going to happen anywhere in the world.
03:20Thanks to you, your fidelity, and thanks to this team,
03:23we have that material.
03:24I have been very critical many times,
03:26you know that.
03:27I think my words are misinterpreted sometimes.
03:29It's not that I don't believe in the mystery.
03:31Of course, the title is the easiest thing.
03:33But, of course, this mystery,
03:35after a thousand occasions of being in front of it,
03:38has given us some small clues,
03:40but not great proofs, obviously.
03:43Therefore, that enigma that exists,
03:45I think it exists,
03:47seems very elusive in front of the technology and the cameras,
03:50and it must speak in another plane.
03:52It must be in another dial,
03:54which is shocking for the witness who lives it,
03:57whom I believe in,
03:59but not for the technology.
04:01I referred to that frustration
04:03a few years ago, with a lot of controversy.
04:06Why? Because I am honest.
04:08And, of course, I would have loved to have obtained
04:11dozens of incredible recordings,
04:13but the phenomenon doesn't go that far.
04:15And Paco Pérez Caballero,
04:17after coming from the Cádiz settlement,
04:19a wonderful place that we adore,
04:21full of stories from the past,
04:23and incidents with the strange,
04:25and also legends,
04:27he told me that he had goosebumps.
04:29And I asked him, Paco, why?
04:31He said, I'll tell you now.
04:33They have just arrived, practically.
04:35He said, Paco, do you know when everything goes backwards?
04:38How backwards?
04:40Yes.
04:42Nothing as we expected.
04:44And many times we don't expect anything.
04:46There is no possible information in this type of research.
04:49But when everything goes around,
04:51worthy of a fiction, but real.
04:53Do they want to live it with us?
05:08Don Paco Pérez Caballero, good evening.
05:10Good evening, Iker.
05:11And I'm not mistaken, everything goes backwards.
05:13Everything goes backwards,
05:15mixed feelings.
05:17I have to tell you that we come with a very beautiful story,
05:19but we have had quite a few.
05:21Because I thought everything was going
05:23out of what we wanted.
05:25And sometimes it has this.
05:27When you go on the street,
05:29you said that you also had to deal
05:31with things very linked to the present.
05:33And I said, how do we treat something like this
05:35with the present?
05:37Well, sometimes everything is in sync.
05:40And very recent.
05:42Very recent.
05:44You know that I am not a person
05:46who gets out of the strict.
05:48And the truth is that it is impossible
05:50to resist certain things.
05:52Can I say, Paco, that you sent me an 8-minute audio
05:54and I have never been so impressed?
05:56I am not proud, but it is true that I had to tell you.
05:58In 20 years, you can say it,
06:00I have never sent you an audio
06:02and never of 8 minutes.
06:04But it had just happened,
06:06we had to manage this,
06:09we were going to see what ghosts
06:11there were in the city of Cádiz.
06:13It is a popular voice, everyone knows it.
06:15You know how Cádiz is,
06:17some take it as a joke,
06:19others seriously.
06:21But there were dozens and dozens of testimonies.
06:23And the city council of Cádiz itself
06:25wanted us to investigate what was real.
06:27And above all we know what Cádiz is as an antiquity, right?
06:29Of course, Cádiz has everything.
06:31There is a cake of many civilizations,
06:33of many places of worship.
06:35You don't have to be surprised
06:37that things happen in a place like the city council.
06:39Donaldo.
06:41How are you?
06:43And it gives me the impression
06:45that all the other way around,
06:47once again it is your fault.
06:49Well, it seems so,
06:51but it has been so exciting.
06:53And Paco said, how are we going to tell it?
06:55We are going to tell it as always,
06:57with the maximum truth,
06:59what we have lived,
07:01what this team has lived.
07:03I hope not to disappoint.
07:05One of the things I have inside
07:07is that I don't know
07:09if we are going to take you
07:11and the viewer to the feeling
07:13that we had.
07:15I don't know if you will like it,
07:17but the truth is that I don't care.
07:19Because what we are here,
07:21we lived it,
07:23and it is a shame not to be able
07:25to take everyone at the same time.
07:27Well, let's ask our guest,
07:29Salvador Santos.
07:31Salva, welcome.
07:33Thank you very much, Iker.
07:35What were you looking for in Cádiz?
07:37Well, in the many conversations
07:39that Paco and I had
07:41before the offer of the City Council,
07:43which is not given every day,
07:45seeing where we could locate
07:47some action,
07:49some of the reports that we recorded,
07:51it was decided for the very building
07:53of the City Council,
07:55because it has a popular baggage,
07:57in addition to the fact
07:59of presence,
08:01of lights, of movements,
08:03that are even reflected,
08:05for example, in the Cádiz newspaper,
08:07in 2005, there is a call
08:09from one of the guards,
08:11who spend the whole night locked up there,
08:13to the local police,
08:15because he is seeing through the surveillance screens
08:17how some people,
08:19some kids or something,
08:21are crossing from the plenum hall,
08:23through the corridors,
08:25following one camera with another.
08:27There are people up there,
08:29and you can hear the noise,
08:31he is not going to take action,
08:33he calls the reinforcements,
08:35they completely register the City Council,
08:37the news of 2005,
08:39and they find nothing.
08:41But what is reflected,
08:43there are many, in fact,
08:45with Paco we had the opportunity to talk,
08:47not with a cleaner, but with many,
08:49not with a guard, but with several,
08:51that I have taken prior to all this,
08:53to get witnesses,
08:55they wanted to talk or witness,
08:57but they all told you a story,
08:59a story,
09:01different from each other,
09:03some explainable, others less,
09:05others shared by several,
09:07several witnesses at the same time,
09:09of visions, of visions,
09:11of a shadow of a man,
09:13who passes four times,
09:15of furniture that the cleaners put in their place,
09:17they go to the room next door,
09:19to continue cleaning,
09:21and when they go out to the corridor,
09:23there is a list of the historical footprint
09:25of this presence, in emirates,
09:27in books, everything,
09:29it was presented to Paco,
09:31and of course, the objective was to reflect this.
09:33There was the typical site,
09:35with a lot of historical substrates,
09:37500 years,
09:39an old hospital,
09:41San Juan Bautista,
09:43with a classic past,
09:45of a lot of uses,
09:47a church, a communicated church,
09:49all this is very important,
09:51so that Aldo would go through those areas
09:53where something really happened,
09:55and they were telling us,
09:57it's very curious, when we entered the apartment,
09:59before Aldo came,
10:01everyone stops us,
10:03look, this has happened to me,
10:05and you don't want to tell,
10:07but a rum-rum, as we had never seen,
10:09the testimonies begin to fall,
10:11I even got a little angry,
10:13because I say, let's see, this is one thing,
10:15they have called us,
10:17no, no, there are plenty of witnesses,
10:19we are going to put them in front of the cameras,
10:21and we finally managed,
10:23that they gave us testimony,
10:25a couple of people,
10:27of the dozens that there are,
10:29even of the ones that are now working,
10:31we are going to see,
10:33so that we can see a little bit,
10:35what happens in the investigation.
10:37Personal ID
10:46I went to a office to close it,
10:48and the chair,
10:50moved from one place to another,
10:52but the chair was completely broken,
10:54it had no four-legged wheels,
10:56and they moved to the right.
11:00At the floor below,
11:02my co-workers were sitting down at the dinner time,
11:04and I saw through the glass
11:06A shadow of a man, dressed in black.
11:09I saw his silhouette, which is the profile.
11:18How the doors are there.
11:19We close them, because in fact they are not handles, they are knobs with a click.
11:23Which you close and listen to how it has closed well.
11:26And that door opens again, closes again and opens again.
11:36Many workers, especially the watchmen.
11:39Watchmen.
11:41The watchmen, quite a lot, because they have the night shift, of course.
11:46And it is when they perceive it the most.
11:50And they have made us the comments.
11:55Even the police have come to see him, in the upper part of the press.
11:59They have not found anything.
12:05They have even set the alarm.
12:08The watchmen have got up to look, because they have seen through the cameras shadows, and no.
12:15And they have not found anything, but they have seen it through the cameras.
12:30What happens is that, of course, they give him respect to talk about this.
12:45Well, testimonies.
12:46In addition, very archetypical, when things happen in such emblematic places,
12:52which are usually at the heart of the city.
12:54And as we said, they have layers and layers of history.
12:58And of course, logically, Salva, that environment, even for the good of Aldo,
13:04I say that it is very suggestive, or to think about a type of history, of the past.
13:11It was the easiest, the easiest.
13:14The building itself, we were touring it.
13:17There are secret stairs, there are incredible levels, very labyrinthine.
13:21Although on the outside it seems that it is neoclassical, and that it seems that they are straight lines.
13:25Inside it is a real labyrinth of doors, access to the church, old access to the hospital.
13:31It's crazy.
13:33Of course, it was planned to put Aldo there, that Paco was going with him.
13:38And what would come to think is a character related to history.
13:42And also Cádiz.
13:43There have been revolutions, masonry, counter-revolutions.
13:51There has been everything.
13:52There has been everything.
13:53Therefore, the logical thing is that Aldo, we imagined, saw some of that, right?
13:57Of course, that's what we were going for.
13:58So that he distrusts this, above all, which is logical, I myself distrust.
14:02And I would tell you that even Aldo himself distrusts himself.
14:05You get there and you get images, I don't know, of monks, of people.
14:10Because there is a lot of historical material.
14:11Of course, you are next to a church, an old hospital.
14:15Everything is calling to that.
14:18And of course, you imagine, we call Aldo, as always, who was staying at the other end of the city.
14:23He comes to the town hall.
14:25Well, not for the taxi in the town hall, but in a large square in front.
14:29We go down walking there.
14:31And when we are going to enter the town hall, there are some people who receive us briefly.
14:37I can assure you that a minute.
14:40While they put the camera on Aldo's chest and we enter.
14:44And as soon as we enter, we are putting, you know how Aldo is.
14:47We put the camera on him and he is already talking.
14:48I say, wait, we are not.
14:49No, no, there is someone there, there is someone there.
14:51From the beginning.
14:52From the beginning.
14:53And I say, and I will tell you, let me tell you that I begin to say.
14:56Wait, Aldo.
14:57Look, this is in my mind, I'm not telling you, but wait, Aldo, it's not here.
15:00That is, the thing we are looking for is in the least beautiful area of the town hall.
15:04Which is an area that is offices, which is where what the witnesses tell us happens.
15:08And Aldo already connects with something that will leave us absolutely stunned.
15:12The chip turns on.
15:13Don't tell us, okay?
15:14Do you think we should see it first?
15:15I think it's what we have to do.
15:16Because this is when everything starts to fall apart.
15:19There is never a script.
15:22And less in this established program.
15:24Because we don't know what's going to happen.
15:26But this is what they wanted expected.
15:28Do you want to see it?
15:29Let's go there.
15:43Okay.
15:44There are knots here, okay?
15:45There is a knot here.
15:46There is another one here.
15:48There is nothing here.
15:56Are there any notes here?
15:58I don't think so.
16:00Valley.
16:03There was something in front of me here.
16:14We don't see anything in front of us now.
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