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En un giro inesperado, Elba Marcovecchio se mostró enfurecida tras una medida judicial impulsada por Sara Estíbar Brown, exmujer de Jorge Lanata. La situación ha afectado a su familia, especialmente a su hija, quien no pudo asistir al colegio. Marcovecchio criticó duramente el manejo de la situación y expresó su indignación por el sufrimiento causado a sus hijos.

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00:00The last three days have changed a lot.
00:02On Wednesday, after the operation, we saw her very confused.
00:06Yesterday, a little calmer, and today, completely enraged.
00:11When she arrived at approximately 11.30 in the morning,
00:16she came with the high heels, very angry
00:19by the judicial measure imposed by the ex-wife of Jorge Lanata
00:24by Sara Estibar Brown, better known as Kiwita,
00:28and she said absolutely everything.
00:31She was very angry because her daughter is very affected
00:35by everything that happened yesterday.
00:38She also talked about the dismissal she made on social media
00:42and also how Jorge Lanata is today.
00:45She was in the Italian hospital last night
00:50and she was also there for about an hour today.
00:53She left at 12.30 noon moments ago
00:58and was forceful today.
01:01Elba Marcovecchio against everyone.
01:04The war broke out and it's total, Flor.
01:07I would like to share the note, if you think it's cool, with everyone,
01:10because the truth is that it is very interesting to be able to hear it
01:12because it is a totally different Elba from what we have been seeing.
01:1611.30 in the morning, Elba Marcovecchio arrives at the Italian hospital.
01:25Hello, Elba.
01:27Hello, Elba. Jorge had a good night.
01:30He was having a good time in the post-op.
01:32Elba, the war broke out.
01:34Yes, yes, but still...
01:36How do you live it?
01:37How do I live it? I am an adult and I live it horribly,
01:40but today my daughter did not go to school.
01:43I mean, I couldn't go to school because she was decomposed
01:47and she feels bad.
01:50And the truth is that this is a lot.
01:54We are an assembled family.
01:58And my children are suffering.
02:00And my children, who are our children, are suffering.
02:03Why? Because they don't have the blood, the cream.
02:05These children cannot suffer.
02:07We are here in a barbarity.
02:09I mean, they are nothing because they don't have the blood, the cream.
02:12What are they going to talk about?
02:14I have no idea what they are going to talk about.
02:16I have no idea what they are going to talk about.
02:18What I do know is that it is disgusting, disgusting
02:22what they are doing.
02:23It is disgusting, disgusting what they are doing
02:26with this whole situation.
02:29And I am talking about this situation and what they are doing
02:31with two creatures.
02:33I mean, they are suffering.
02:35And they don't have the right to suffer because they don't have the blood, the cream.
02:38You look very angry today.
02:40Do you know why? Because my son couldn't go to school.
02:42And he is 14 years old.
02:44But, of course, it is victimization.
02:46It is victimization to say that a creature is suffering.
02:49Do you understand me? And why?
02:51You are a lawyer. I wanted to consult you.
02:53Did they revoke your power?
02:54I don't want to talk about this.
02:55But what happened? To clarify.
02:57The only thing that matters to me is Jorge,
03:00who, you know what, is waiting for me,
03:02conscious or unconscious, he is waiting for me.
03:04The only thing that matters is Jorge and my children.
03:06Elba, today you came later to avoid a meeting.
03:09No, no, no, no. For my daughter.
03:11Well, in this way, invisibly angry,
03:14Elba Marcovecchio enters the Italian hospital.
03:18Intruders. She spoke with Jorge Lanata's wife.
03:25Guati, I congratulate you for the note.
03:27The truth is that it is a very strong testimony of Elba Marcovecchio,
03:30who clearly exploded after so many attacks.
03:33Because the truth is that what was seen,
03:35what has been seen for a long time,
03:37is a total image discredit towards her,
03:40who is a woman who is suffering because she has her husband,
03:42the truth, fighting for his life.
03:44Lanata's daughters are also surely very moved or hurt
03:48also with what happens to her father.
03:49But the truth is that the attacks that have been public
03:52towards Elba Marcovecchio,
03:53that yesterday she said, well, this morning she said,
03:55enough, Guati.
03:56It is that they reached the limit of the children, Flor.
03:58This is the issue.
03:59That's why she says she's glad her 14-year-old daughter
04:02didn't want to go to school.
04:03She has a 16-year-old son, who is Valentino.
04:05And I remember when she asks, speaks,
04:07faces the judge, presents the writing,
04:11and comes out in the court.
04:12Precisely the word vulnerability
04:14had to do with Elba's children,
04:15which was what she asked for, right?
04:17That the issue does not come to light
04:18precisely because of her children.
04:19Then she got up to the court.
04:21I mean, in the networks,
04:23none of the family,
04:25no, nobody attacks directly,
04:27obviously, Elba's children,
04:29but in networks, and I imagine school and others,
04:32the issue, what she says,
04:34is because they are not the children of Nata.
04:36Then this confrontation, obviously,
04:38repercussions.
04:39Yes, Laura, but it seems to me that we have to separate.
04:41No, I don't defend it, right?
04:42No, it's barbaric.
04:43That's why I say,
04:44I understand Elba as a mother,
04:46and here I support Elba.
04:47I say, but we have to separate,
04:48because one thing is the judicial field,
04:50that yesterday we told here exclusively in Intrusos,
04:52because there they tell me on the side of Elba.
04:54This new, let's see,
04:55this new lawsuit of Elba Marcovecchio
04:57against the daughters, and above all against Sara.
04:59But it seems to me that here,
05:00I have never heard neither Barbara, nor Lola,
05:02nor Sara, nor Andrea,
05:03talk about Elba's children.
05:05No, but it doesn't come from there.
05:06But that's why I say,
05:07that's why separating things.
05:08No, she's saying something else.
05:09I'm explaining something else.
05:10Everything she says,
05:11I know, but what Elba says,
05:13all the barbarities that are said of her,
05:15on television, on the internet,
05:17end up affecting the children.
05:19Not because they have directly affected the children.
05:21I still ask you,
05:22don't you think that this also has to do
05:24with her perhaps,
05:25this morning she found out
05:26that the girls are going to talk,
05:28because they are going to talk,
05:29it seems that on telenoche.
05:30I didn't know.
05:32Of course, because they supposedly say,
05:34I don't know how.
05:35I don't know if it's going to be a recorded note.
05:37Well, the whole Clarín group,
05:38radio, TV and everything,
05:40is aligned, in quotation marks, aligned.
05:42Well, they were the ones who showed the videos.
05:43Exactly.
05:44They made, they dedicated entire programs.
05:45When it was the one about the caution,
05:46it was terrible,
05:47when they came out with Adepa, Popea,
05:49how much journalistic entity there is,
05:51and at that moment they were fine.
05:53And obviously there is a war,
05:54and she is practically alone
05:56against all that world.
05:57It's the reality.
05:58And of course, the League of Children.
06:00And I'm going to relate you perhaps
06:01with what has to do
06:02with the judicial steps
06:03that can be taken to come.
06:04And it has to do,
06:05after that presentation
06:06that was made in a civil trial,
06:08there was the possibility
06:09that that information
06:10has also been shared
06:11with a criminal trial.
06:13And they were handling
06:14that possibility a lot.
06:16At least the judge
06:17who starts the case,
06:18the civil cause,
06:19to say, well,
06:20I pass this part to a criminal judge
06:22so that you determine
06:23if it was here,
06:24to have been configured
06:26by a guy,
06:27a child's principle.
06:28You don't have it easy.
06:29Excuse me,
06:30and with the issue of powers,
06:31all powers,
06:32can you have several powers
06:33at the same time?
06:34We are going to ask
06:35Dr. Ignacio Trimarco,
06:36we are going to take advantage,
06:37how are you, doctor?
06:38Welcome.
06:39Good afternoon.
06:40A pleasure.
06:41The question of Tauro
06:42is very interesting.
06:43We asked ourselves that yesterday,
06:44because now
06:45another power
06:46of Jorge Lanata's ex-wife
06:47appeared.
06:48What is the issue of a power?
06:49An invalid power, another?
06:50Let's see,
06:51it's a very interesting topic.
06:52Very technical.
06:53Your question
06:54is very tight.
06:55A power,
06:56the truth is,
06:57cannot cancel another.
06:58Okay?
06:59There is no faculty
07:00that one gives it
07:01to cancel other powers.
07:02Of course.
07:03The powers are canceled
07:04by letter of document
07:05sent by the giving power.
07:06That is,
07:07whoever gives you that power
07:08must revoke it.
07:09Ah, then once,
07:10once it is given ...
07:11That power
07:12is the only faculty
07:13to revoke it.
07:14Ah, okay.
07:15On the side,
07:16let's see,
07:17on the exact side,
07:18the will of the person.
07:19The person is giving you
07:20a power,
07:21and no one can go against
07:22that will
07:23that you had
07:24when you gave that power.
07:25Do you understand?
07:26Yes.
07:27And apart,
07:28let's see,
07:29if there is a power
07:30that has the same faculties
07:31before and after,
07:32it is understood,
07:33or excuse me,
07:34it is understood
07:35that the one that would be valid
07:36is the last one
07:37that the person gave.
07:38Do you understand?
07:39In this case,
07:40it is the first power
07:41that, let's say,
07:42the ex-wife of the Nata
07:43has,
07:44it is a wide power
07:45of administration
07:46and special disposition.
07:47Absolutely,
07:48she said.
07:49Well,
07:50and the other,
07:51the one that Elba has,
07:52it is a wide power
07:53of administration
07:54and disposition.
07:55So it is a technical question,
07:56but yes,
07:57there is a difference
07:58between one and the other,
07:59they are not the same.
08:00It has a lot to do
08:01with the issue
08:02of administration
08:03or administration
08:04and disposition.
08:05Administration
08:06is to manage,
08:07to manage precisely
08:08the word manage
08:09which is to take care
08:10of the goods,
08:11pay the taxes,
08:12that is,
08:13everything you have to do
08:14with a good,
08:15with a property.
08:16And disposition
08:17is when you can sell it,
08:18sell it,
08:19mortgage it,
08:20or manage
08:21the goods.
08:22In the case of the power
08:23that the ex-wife has,
08:24which is special disposition,
08:25it requires the authorization
08:26of the one who gave it
08:27the power
08:28to be able to sell,
08:29in this case,
08:30put it.
08:31If you have disposition,
08:32no, you could dispose.
08:33Special disposition.
08:34Exactly.
08:35What difference
08:36is there in special?
08:37Now,
08:38I did not read the power,
08:39but what I understand
08:40that has happened here
08:41is that many times
08:42it is done
08:43when you sell a property,
08:44you do it
08:45with a purchase-sale ticket
08:46and maybe it gives you
08:47a special power
08:48of administration
08:49with respect to that good
08:50so that you,
08:51on the day of the writing,
08:52do that good
08:53to another person.
08:54Ah,
08:55that's why they said
08:56that it was given
08:57for the,
08:58sorry,
08:59because they said that,
09:00they said that,
09:01for the apartment
09:02where they live,
09:03because they could not sell it,
09:04they said that.
09:05To get into this topic,
09:06yesterday he tells me
09:07from the circle of Elba
09:08that Elba still,
09:09until eight o'clock at night,
09:10I don't know if now,
09:11yes,
09:12had read the power.
09:13That's why I was in doubt.
09:14In the document letter,
09:15in the document letter,
09:16in the document letter,
09:17which,
09:18let's see,
09:19the media received,
09:20that power is not transcribed,
09:21we don't know what
09:22power it has.
09:23And in the document letter
09:24that Elba sends to Sara yesterday,
09:25there it says,
09:26show the date of the power
09:27because we didn't see it,
09:28the truth is that
09:29it is very strong
09:30the document that Elba sends her.
09:31And now why,
09:32but now why,
09:33sorry,
09:34because I'm lost
09:35with all this,
09:36what's happening
09:37with this fight,
09:38very,
09:39very,
09:40because the truth is
09:41that I no longer understand
09:42why they ask for one thing
09:43or another.
09:44In this case,
09:45Keewee and Sara,
09:46why do you decide
09:47to show this power now?
09:48Because of the employees.
09:49Because of the employees.
09:50Yes, because of Facundo.
09:51Yesterday,
09:52when we were talking,
09:53a friend of Sara
09:54was watching us
09:55and she started
09:56telling us
09:57details and intimacy,
09:58a little bit of intimacy,
09:59of why Sara decides
10:00to act with this,
10:01to activate this.
10:02She says that Sara
10:03saw,
10:04this is what they tell you
10:05on one side,
10:06that she saw
10:07between the sword
10:08and the wall
10:09and that it was
10:10the way to be able
10:11to save those employees
10:12who were family
10:13for Nata.
10:14Others say
10:15something else,
10:16others say that
10:17before this,
10:18this did not start now.
10:19The strategy
10:20and that they are
10:21very well advised,
10:22Keewee,
10:23Andrea,
10:24Barbara,
10:25Loremel,
10:26and it seems
10:27that it is like this
10:28and that there is
10:29a whole continuity
10:30of actions
10:31and that if they did not
10:32bring out this power
10:33before,
10:34it is because they did not
10:35need it.
10:36But obviously
10:37they are seeing
10:38step by step
10:39what it is.
10:40But would Nata
10:41know
10:42that there were
10:4320 powers given?
10:44Yes,
10:45she knew.
10:47I think this is
10:48a great conflict
10:49because who is
10:50executing this power
10:51supposedly to protect
10:52a source of work
10:53is an ex-wife
10:54who no longer has
10:55participation in life,
10:56in the profit
10:57of Mr. Lanata's
10:58business.
10:59So what corresponds
11:00is that his current
11:01wife,
11:02his current partner
11:03is the one who
11:04is managing
11:05and if we make
11:06a decision
11:07to suspend
11:08a worker,
11:09it is logical.
11:10Yes,
11:11but you know what happens
11:12doctor,
11:13that there is something
11:14that mixes.
11:15I'm not going to talk
11:16because what they say
11:17is that supposedly
11:18these two people
11:19are like part
11:20of the family.
11:21Yes.
11:22They are more than
11:23employees.
11:24For him it is family.
11:25Imagine that one
11:26of the people
11:27was a witness
11:28to his marriage.
11:29So what they say
11:30or what they believe,
11:31that I also say,
11:32when I heard it
11:33I said,
11:34I was surprised
11:35that he suspended him
11:36but without salary
11:37enjoyment,
11:38it is strong.
11:39They say that
11:40Jorge Lanata
11:41would not have liked
11:42this.
11:43Not only that
11:44but I do not see it
11:45wrong.
11:46Your spouse,
11:47the person who is
11:48taking care of you,
11:49who has to be paying
11:50all the services,
11:51all the salaries,
11:52if he is not able
11:53to get to the end
11:54of the month,
11:55well,
11:56let's see,
11:57let's suspend him.
11:58And if later,
11:59sorry,
12:00sorry doctor,
12:01and if later
12:02that person,
12:03that you licensed
12:04five and the rest,
12:05you do trial,
12:06the perjury
12:07is bigger
12:08than what you managed
12:09to defend.
12:10Because here
12:11the trials come
12:12and it is worse.
12:13And if later
12:14he is fired
12:15or not,
12:16he will be licensed.
12:17And yes,
12:18but letter,
12:19document,
12:20he will send.
12:21Now doctor,
12:22who is going to accept
12:23that you are suspended?
12:24He could easily
12:25be suspended.
12:26Let's see,
12:27suspending an activity
12:28is not something illegal
12:29and it is not a cause
12:30to get fired.
12:31And more if the person
12:32who is against the law
12:33is in prison.
12:34Because there is
12:35in fact a cause
12:36of greater force.
12:37The person is fighting
12:38for his life
12:39and let's see,
12:40everyone knows that
12:41But they also take
12:42the case of the woman
12:43who cleans the apartment
12:44and takes care of the apartment
12:45to Francisca,
12:46why does she lose
12:47her job?
12:48No, no,
12:49from what they know,
12:50she would not be losing.
12:51She would have been suspended
12:52because she was using
12:53the apartment.
12:54But what I see is,
12:55at least from my place,
12:56it is striking
12:57that a former couple
12:58for so long
12:59begins to take
13:00action and decisions
13:01about the current life
13:02of Mr. Nata
13:03and his wife.
13:04It is interesting
13:05that vision
13:06because of course,
13:07because apart
13:08it is the current woman
13:09and she has the right
13:10to take decisions
13:11But she has a power
13:12if not,
13:13she would not speak.
13:14Wait a second,
13:15wait a second
13:16because I need
13:17to present a note
13:18because the truth
13:19is that everyone
13:20in the show
13:21is giving their opinion
13:22on this issue
13:23and we went to look
13:24for Babi Echecover
13:25I would be interested
13:26to hear a little
13:27what Babi says
13:28about this situation.
13:33Babi,
13:34I wanted to know
13:35what you think
13:36of what is happening
13:37around Jorge Lanata.
13:38It is very hard
13:39and then
13:40the only thing
13:41I ask is that
13:42if something happens
13:43to Jorge
13:44those who are
13:45around me
13:46do not do
13:47what his family
13:48is doing.
13:49And I see it
13:50and I say
13:51how ugly,
13:52how ugly,
13:53how disrespectful
13:54everyone,
13:55although they are right.
13:56If you had
13:57the misfortune
13:58of going through
13:59what happened,
14:00Jorge,
14:01would you like
14:02your children
14:03to give their opinion
14:04along with your wife
14:05about the next
14:06medical procedures
14:07or would you
14:08leave it up to
14:09your wife
14:10to take responsibility?
14:11What is the
14:12responsibility of my wife?
14:13When you get married
14:14the power of the woman
14:15is not discussed.
14:16Here we are
14:17thinking that
14:18this lady,
14:19the last one,
14:20is an intruder.
14:21She is Jorge's
14:22wife,
14:23the wife that
14:24Jorge chose.
14:25It must be
14:26a little ugly
14:27that when you are
14:28not well
14:29a whole family
14:30comes to say
14:31well, well,
14:32now let's see
14:33how we divide Babi.
14:34I would not like
14:35either that
14:36something happens
14:37to my wife
14:38and say
14:39no,
14:40because you are
14:41the last one.
14:42Instead,
14:43the ex-husband
14:44says,
14:45no,
14:46what do I think?
14:47Ah,
14:48but this one
14:49has three daughters
14:50with her.
14:51So,
14:52no,
14:53I do not care.
14:54She is my wife
14:55and I am the husband.
14:56There are only two of us,
14:57there are not 40.
14:58Are all these
14:59problems that are
15:00arising
15:01for money?
15:02This has many
15:03interpretations.
15:04For the daughters
15:05an immense man
15:06is being filled.
15:07That is hard.
15:08And for the last one
15:09I could not enjoy it.
15:10In other words,
15:11there are several complaints
15:12within this.
15:13Are the relatives
15:14and the people
15:15who love Jorge
15:16disheartened?
15:17Are they overwhelmed
15:18by the pain?
15:19Overwhelmed
15:20for so long.
15:21Do not forget
15:22how many years
15:23Jorge has been suffering.
15:24Overwhelmed
15:25by what happens to him
15:26and overwhelmed
15:27by the loss.
15:28Because even
15:29if there is a denial,
15:30there is a loss.
15:31Jorge will no longer
15:32be Jorge
15:33even if he gets up.
15:34So,
15:35they can not digest
15:36that Jorge
15:37is not immortal.
15:38It is interesting
15:39what Babi Echecopar says.
15:40If you do not realize
15:41that he was a person
15:42of flesh and blood,
15:43because Jorge
15:44seemed immortal.
15:45Yes.
15:46Right?
15:47Yes.
15:48So strong his figure.
15:49Yes.
15:50So much for the child.
15:51No.
15:52And it is strong.
15:53It is strong.
15:54The figure,
15:55imagine for them.
15:56What happened yesterday,
15:57really, Flora,
15:58surprises me.
15:59I spoke
16:00precisely with Barbara.
16:01He is a gladiator.
16:02Because it was
16:03a very good night.
16:04Yesterday,
16:05let's see,
16:06in a critical and serious state.
16:07I go back to the same thing.
16:08Always leaving that base.
16:09That's why,
16:10do not misinterpret.
16:11But what they told me yesterday
16:12was that at eight o'clock
16:13at night,
16:14the truth,
16:15the doctors were surprised
16:16by the evolution
16:17of the postoperative.
16:18Which was also what
16:19the medical part said,
16:20that they are evaluating
16:21because it is minute by minute.
16:22It is still interesting
16:23what Babi said
16:24and I'm going to ask the doctor
16:25because he will surely
16:26be very used
16:27to these situations.
16:28He said,
16:29this is definitely
16:30of two,
16:31husband and wife.
16:32He says,
16:33for me,
16:34I think it really is like that.
16:35Barbara had
16:36a previous partner,
16:37divorced,
16:38solved what
16:39she had to solve.
16:40He left her a power
16:41perhaps to have
16:42a good,
16:43as you said,
16:44apartment.
16:45And his current wife,
16:46his current partner,
16:47is accompanying him.
16:48This critical situation,
16:49of course,
16:50affects the whole family.
16:51What happens is that
16:52they appeared
16:53in a lack of payment.
16:54That's what the doctor just said.
16:55But Laura,
16:56the reality is that ...
16:57But why did he separate
16:58the administrator?
16:59And there are topics
17:00of advertisements,
17:01there are topics of companies.
17:02His current wife
17:03is his wife
17:04and on top of that
17:05he has a power.
17:06He is doing,
17:07from my point of view,
17:08what corresponds
17:09to any couple.
17:10And Jorge Laná
17:11said it.
17:12Of course,
17:13don't do anything illegal.
17:14He's not doing anything illegal.
17:15He's not doing anything illegal
17:16and he's taking care
17:17of the administrator.
17:18You may like it
17:19or not like it.
17:20Of course,
17:21that's another topic.
17:22You may like it
17:23or not like it,
17:24then you will discuss it.
17:25But you can apply
17:26a money that you pay him.
17:27For me,
17:28an ex-couple
17:29of I don't know how many years
17:30to want to get involved
17:31in this topic.
17:32It is something
17:33that you just mentioned
17:34that is what you told me yesterday.
17:35Yes.
17:36Kiwi's friend.
17:37What is it?
17:38Let's see,
17:39if I tell you,
17:40because she is an important person
17:41and I trust
17:42what she tells me.
17:43From that side,
17:44from what they believe.
17:45Always starting
17:46from that base
17:47that you just said.
17:48Elba is accompanying
17:49her husband.
17:50With the topic
17:51of accompaniment
17:52there is a big mess
17:53because the look
17:54of Kiwi,
17:55of Sara,
17:56of the daughters
17:57is that Elba
17:58doesn't want to
18:00I don't say it myself,
18:01doesn't accompany
18:02Jorge enough.
18:03That was the conflict.
18:04That's where it all started.
18:05But how would it be?
18:06But guys,
18:07do you remember
18:08that it all started there?
18:09Yes.
18:10Of course.
18:11That's where it started.
18:12With the photo
18:13of the hand.
18:14Do you remember
18:15the photo of the hand?
18:16That's where the conflict
18:17started,
18:18which was how much
18:19one stays,
18:20how much the other stays.
18:21That's where it all started.
18:22That's where the confrontation
18:23started and that's where
18:24we knew they were
18:25fighting.
18:26When they said that
18:27one day he had spoken
18:28and that's how it all started.
18:29And what they say
18:30on the side of the daughters
18:31and Kiwi
18:32is that Elba goes very little
18:33in the morning
18:34and that she doesn't appear
18:35throughout the day
18:36and that Elba
18:37doesn't notify them
18:38when she doesn't go
18:39and that the woman
18:40who is there all the time
18:41is Sara.
18:42It's Kiwi.
18:43It's the person
18:44who takes the day off
18:45and leaves in the morning.
18:46It's the person
18:47who gets up and leaves
18:48in the morning.
18:49She gets up.
18:50She goes out in the morning.
18:51That's what they say.
18:52I'm going to say
18:53what the doctors say.
18:54I don't think so.
18:55I don't think so
18:56because ...
18:57I don't want it to be like that, because I don't think it's a bad thing.
19:00What does she do?
19:02Wait a second, guys.
19:04The truth is that there is something to try to analyze with the heads of journalists.
19:09It is what is happening and what we are seeing.
19:11There is something that happens from the beginning.
19:13What is that?
19:14They want to make her see.
19:16They want to show her.
19:17There is something clear.
19:19They want to take the mask off her.
19:21Because all the time it is wanting to unmask her.
19:23That's why you understand very well what is happening.
19:25Clearly, they say that she would not go to the hospital, that she would do this, that she would do that.
19:30That's why the videos were leaked.
19:32That's why she is shown as a black life.
19:34That's why, I don't know, in the writing they said that she supposedly gave her cake when she couldn't eat.
19:38Do you understand?
19:39There is a construction that was made by the media, of course.
19:42That's why Elba would have said she got tired.
19:45I add to what the friends of Porque La Nata tell you from the beginning, from a long time ago.
19:51They believe more than the relationship they had before with Elvita.
19:55They suspect and believe, and always suspected and believed that Elvita was for other interests.
20:00Not in the matter of love of the couple.
20:03And from there, with that basis, goes what you just said.
20:07They started to see situations where they fed that idea.
20:11She gives him food, she gives him cake, she doesn't take care of him, she shows how she takes care of him.
20:15That's what they gave up in the writing.
20:17I'm going to tell you something that has nothing to do with the critics.
20:20It seems to me that that would be disrespecting Nata.
20:22Of course.
20:23It seems to me that he is a very intelligent man.
20:25If he marries a person, he does it out of love.
20:28If he had other intentions.
20:30But doctor.
20:31If he were.
20:32But doctor.
20:33If Nata accepts that and marries him and he is her husband and chooses her.
20:37But it's a matter of him.
20:38And he decided that he didn't want to take her.
20:40I'm not saying that.
20:41Nobody put the cake in his mouth by force.
20:43I'm not saying that.
20:44He also decided that he was going to take her.
20:45But it is the construction that they themselves made.
20:48It is the writing that they present.
20:50They always see it as assuming.
20:52But Pablo, that can be the cause of, in your case, an action like that.
20:56Because that is very important.
20:57Sorry.
20:58Pablo, he didn't smoke.
21:00He smoked until the last minute.
21:02I agree with everything you say.
21:03After smoking, I don't know.
21:04No, no, no.
21:05I agree with everything you say.
21:06No, he couldn't.
21:07So, let's see.
21:08He didn't like cigarettes either.
21:09Nobody could get it out.
21:10That's why Debra's answer is.
21:13Put the testimony and the talk with the driver.
21:16Where Jorge asked for some things.
21:19Pixelated.
21:20Pixelated.
21:21There has to be a contradiction on one side and the other.
21:23With respect to that image.
21:24Which is then reflected in the presentation that the children make.
21:27As if saying.
21:28Hey, I suspect this kind of thing.
21:30Justice will later decide if there is a criminal issue or not.
21:33Sure.
21:34Yes.
21:35We have a ...
21:36Wait a second, doctor.
21:37Because we have one last moment with Karina and Vicky.
21:39You asked Florencia a while ago.
21:41That there was going to be a journalistic note.
21:44From the daughters of Jorge and Nata.
21:46Yes.
21:47From Bárbara and ...
21:48Lola.
21:49And Lola.
21:50Well, finally today at 8 p.m. on Telenoche.
21:54There will be some format, let's say, different.
21:57It's not an interview.
21:58It's a writing that they would read out loud.
22:02That's why some are also commenting on my nerves.
22:06Maybe today.
22:07Sure.
22:08Yes.
22:09We were looking for Elba when we went to look for her.
22:11Because, well.
22:12They never spoke, the girls.
22:13And today on Telenoche.
22:14A place obviously.
22:15Elba did not know.
22:16Jorge worked.
22:17I estimate that Elba was aware of this information.
22:21Finally they break the silence of the girls.
22:24He does not interview them.
22:25Let's say.
22:26This format is different.
22:27Nobody who works on the channel.
22:28Obviously it is produced by people from the Telenoche journalistic team.
22:33But they are in a situation, let's say, a little more relaxed for them.
22:38What was not known was that.
22:40What was not known was that.
22:41What you are explaining, Kari.
22:42Because it was.
22:43It was known that it was something.
22:44The plot of how it was going to be.
22:45Of course.
22:46How this supposed interview was going to be.
22:47Or what the girls were going to do.
22:48Exactly.
22:49It's a writing.
22:50Because, well.
22:51It makes them a little nervous.
22:52The situation.
22:53It's what they told the producers.
22:54Not what they like the most.
22:55But hey.
22:56They feel that they have reached a moment.
22:57Let's say.
22:58Of all this relationship.
22:59And of everything that is happening.
23:00That they have to be heard.
23:01Because they feel that this has gone out of hand.
23:03So today at 8 p.m.
23:04We will attend to see and hear what they have to say.
23:05Sure.
23:06Well.
23:07The truth is that it will be interesting to be able to listen to them.
23:08But I think that a long time ago everything that is happening with this situation has gone out of hand.
23:09Because the truth is that I am sure.
23:10I am convinced.
23:11That Jorge would not have liked it.
23:12Not at all.
23:13That his women are facing each other.
23:14And that they are taking their eyes out.
23:15The way they are doing it publicly.
23:16While he.
23:17He is not.
23:18He is not.
23:19He is not.
23:20He is not.
23:21He is not.
23:22He is not.
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23:26He is not.
23:27He is not.
23:28He is not.
23:29He is not.
23:30He is not.
23:31He is not.
23:32He is not.
23:33He is not.
23:34He is not.
23:35He is not.
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23:52He is not.
23:53He is not.
23:54He is not.
23:55He is not.
23:56He is not.
23:57He is not.
23:58He is not.

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