Dyche on Everton's injury latest, Tuchel and Ipswich preview
17/10/2024
Finch Farm, Liverpool, UK
17/10/2024
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00:00Good afternoon everyone, welcome to our pre-match press conference to preview our game against
00:11Ipswich and we'll start off with Vinnie from Sky.
00:14Sean, before we look ahead to the game, can we first of all get your thoughts on the appointment
00:16of Thomas Tuchel to the new England manager?
00:19I think like most, you know I've spent all my life watching English football being part
00:24of it, I think most would have liked an English coach I think, well that's the general theme
00:29I get from people I've spoken to in the game and the general kind of viewpoint from the
00:33masses it seems, but on the other hand I think the game's diversifying all the time, it's
00:38someone who's right for the job and he clearly has got a record that suggests he can do the
00:41job and that's for sure, so I think that's just the way it is, I think results will be
00:46important for obvious reasons, but they always are if you're manager of England I'm sure
00:50of that.
00:51How do you feel yourself about an Englishman not getting the opportunity?
00:55Well I can only imagine there's a big process to go through, they mentioned approximately
01:01ten, I don't know how it's approximately, it's either ten or not, I was quite intrigued
01:04by that, anyway out of the ten I would imagine there has been some English-British coaches
01:10interviewed, I don't know for sure, I certainly wasn't, not that they asked me, I'm just making
01:16it clear in case you want to ask, but no I think they'll have gone through a heavy process
01:22I would imagine to get to where they've got to.
01:24Here, how far have you gone to rediscovering the solidity and resilience that we saw a
01:29lot last season?
01:31Well we've shown signs of it and I think more so the last game, by no means were we as good
01:36in other games as we've been in other games and there's still a lot of work to be done
01:41from them performances, the previous games, but we showed that resilience as you suggest,
01:46we've got a good clean sheet, came back to getting a lot of the basics right actually
01:52to keep a good side at bay and get a result, so it's showing signs, I mean it's helpful
01:58if we can get players fit again, we're still missing a few but a few are a lot closer than
02:02they were.
02:03With those players that have been missing, so where are we at with Brantwaite, Mikalenko,
02:07Coleman and Paterson first of all?
02:10Well first of all Mikalenko is looking good so that's a good step in the right direction,
02:15Shames is back in the group and he's had more or less the week, Jared's a bit behind them
02:20but he's been on the grass with us but a little bit behind them.
02:23Who's the one I'm missing, oh Pato yeah, well he's just on his longer term sort of plan
02:28to get him back but he's looking fitter and sharper all the time, not quite there yet
02:33but he's training all the time and so far he's coming through it clean which is really
02:36important, that's it, clear of injuries.
02:37And Schimetti and Brogier as well?
02:39Yeah a bit longer term, Youssef's been incredibly unlucky, probably the most unlucky out of
02:44all of them with the oddest injury and he's making good progress now, he's on the grass
02:49with the Sports Scientists and so is Brogier so he's in front of Youssef with his comeback
02:54if wanted a better way of putting it.
02:56He will need a games programme but he's certainly working actively now with the Sports Science
03:00Group and hopefully he'll be crossing over with us soon.
03:03And obviously we saw Limon and Dai come off with seemingly an injury in the first game
03:07against Malawi, then he came on as a substitute for Senegal in the second game, so how has
03:11he come through unscathed?
03:13Yeah it settled down really quickly, I think it was one of them that had to be cautious
03:16at first but it settled down and he was clear-minded, we spoke to him and he said no no I'm clear
03:21to be involved in that second game and he's come back and he's trained today so we're
03:25hopeful on that one.
03:26Finally for me Sean, you've obviously got two winless sides in your next three games
03:29now in Ipswich and then Southampton as well, we can build it up as an opportunity, your
03:34big opportunity to pull yourselves further away from trouble but how do you see it?
03:39Every game's an opportunity but of course the league doesn't lie, it's there for a reason,
03:44it can have its anomalies but at the moment we feel we are an anomaly because we've been
03:47in the driving seat a couple of times and let them situations change, that's been down
03:50to us and me.
03:53We're somewhat correcting that at the moment, we need to correct it further, but you can't
03:56take these teams for granted, Ipswich are full of endeavour like teams do, especially
04:00when they've spent a small, well a recognised fortune in this level of football for a club
04:04who've just come out, so they're obviously intent on being in the division.
04:09Full of in-between and then Southampton, a fair challenge, that's what happens, it's
04:13not easy to go into the Premier League, so the one thing I've learnt from my tenth year
04:19in the Premier League, you can't take anyone for granted, there's no gimmies, I've spoken
04:22to bigger managers who've done a lot more in the game than me managing bigger clubs
04:26than me in their times and they said you can't take it for granted, you just can't, you have
04:30to be right in every game, you have to get the details right and we haven't got them
04:34right until the last three games where we've got more right than what we were getting early
04:37season, so if we can get the details right at both ends, perform properly and appropriately
04:42then I believe we can win games and certainly out of these three, I'd like to think we're capable.
04:49What have you made of Ipswich Star in the Premier League?
04:53Well I think they did terrific first of all last season, they've brought a lot of different
04:57players in, added to it financially which is a choice that's not easy for clubs coming
05:01up, I know the guys there pretty well and I think they're good operators, they're learning
05:06as they go, last time out was a tough one that can happen in the Premier League, it's
05:11hard to get a handle on it, in some games you think you have got a handle on it and
05:13it goes away from you, so there'll be a learning curve there, every game will be a learning
05:17curve but from what I've seen so far, full of endeavour, full of belief to take it on
05:20and I think that's what we've got to be ready for.
05:23Just on Gerrard, is he available potentially for this game?
05:27We'll have to make a decision on it because he's only really had a couple of days training
05:29with us and last time he got through the game and then got a minor injury but it still cost
05:34him a few weeks so we've got to be careful with that one, so we'll have to make a call
05:37probably over the next 24 hours.
05:41But his injury is fine at the moment?
05:43Yeah.
05:44It's just his training schedule, that's the thing by the way, just to be clear.
05:48Just on Tuchel's appointment, if you're an English coach coming through now, do you think
05:52it's disheartening that the FA have gone for a non-British coach?
05:55I don't think it's disheartening, I think it's just a reality of the modern game, each
06:00pathway doesn't always lead to where you want it to, you can only suggest down the history
06:05or certainly my history with the FA is in theory the idea was to get English coaches
06:10fast-track certain members if needs be, get them through the system, create that platform
06:15for coaches going into the system and therefore managing the country but it's changed so much
06:21football management and the view of it, now they've obviously looked at it differently
06:24and at the end of the day all of us want to win inevitably and I think that sometimes
06:30it sort of gets lost in modern football, it's almost like how are you going to do this,
06:32how are you going to do that, what about winning?
06:34So I don't think he'll be under any illusion as manager, forget about nationalities, he'll
06:39know that he's been put in there to try and win because Gareth did an amazing job in my
06:43opinion, did a fantastic job in many different ways of his job with England but we didn't
06:49win so can we go on and take it to the next level, that'll be his biggest challenge beyond
06:53all the rest of the noise is trying to win something.
06:55How do you think you'll get on?
06:57We'll see, plenty of very good managers have tried over the years since 1966 and no-one's
07:02quite done it so we'll see.
07:04You said you weren't involved in the process this time, has there ever been a time when
07:08you have been involved in the process?
07:09No.
07:10Never been spoken to about the job?
07:12No.
07:13Is it the dream, the job for any British coach?
07:16I'm not sure dream is the right word for the England job, I think it's a respected job
07:21for the right reasons, as someone who's been in the English game all my life, player, coach,
07:25manager, of course, but I don't think it's a dream, I think having spoken to a few England
07:29managers I don't think it's necessarily a dream, I think it's a massively challenging
07:33job and changed over the years, but yeah, it's certainly something I think in some point
07:40of your career you'd like to have a look at, but it's certainly not my time now, for lots
07:45of coaches by the way, not just me, but yeah, eventually it's something you'd look at, Eddie
07:51Howe was one who's sort of noise rightly so, but he may look at it differently with what's
07:56going on in Newcastle.
07:58Some managers are still learning as well, a lot of international managers are older
08:02and wiser and been around a bit longer, maybe some of the coaches were looked at and maybe
08:06they thought that, I'm not putting words out of Eddie's mouth by the way, but he was certainly
08:10one who I looked at and thought well yeah, he's someone who you could consider in that
08:14kind of frame to be England manager, but like I say, I'm sure they've had a depth of process
08:21to go through it and they've chosen someone they think can win.
08:24It looks like a tough run in December for the bigger teams, is the next four or five
08:35fixtures, are you looking at targeting those from where you can pick up points?
08:39Look, we've got to pick up points regardless of tough runs, we had different kind of toughness
08:42last season, points deductions and all the rest of it, so our focus has been clear on
08:47the challenge right in front of us, we can't just keep looking at different areas of the
08:50league and all that sort of stuff, we've got to make sure we're right in every game, it's
08:54a belief of mine ever since I've been here, it was a belief of mine in my previous club,
08:58you can only plan so much looking forwards and this season has been very, very difficult
09:02to plan anyway, you know the injuries we've had, it's been a constant process, constant
09:06churn of trying to get players fit, people imagine you get them fit and you put them
09:10out there, they're not truly match fit, we've been trying to get a group of players all
09:13truly match fit and we're just beginning to show signs of it, but we've still got players
09:17coming back from injury, so for us at the minute, it's just the next game is really,
09:21really important, be right for that one, we look at who we've got available, hopefully
09:25no more injuries, hopefully get people fitter again and then we move on to the next one.
09:29Cheers.
09:30Next question, we'll go to Julia.
09:31Hi Sean, can I just check on James Garner, there's been some claims about his fitness
09:36and also just given his performances recently at right back, although he might not have
09:40been what you envisaged to have at right back, is it his place to lose now?
09:45Well Jimmy and Tim are the ones we've missed out actually, so Tim unfortunately has got
09:49a stress response of a bone in his foot, so he's going to be weeks, not days unfortunately.
09:55With this point he's had a good start to the season, a good pre-season, maybe he'll come
09:58back through it but we're not sure on the timescales, Jimmy's similar, Jimmy's got a
10:02back situation, we're just monitoring at the moment, it's settling down but we're not going
10:06to have anything too concrete until probably about the next week or so when we'll know
10:10more and see how he responds to the treatment.
10:14And he has come back to life so to speak, he's had an interrupted time in pre-season
10:19at the beginning of the season and I thought he's done very well since he's been back in
10:23and amongst it.
10:24Jordan Pickford was rested in the second England game, I just wondered, he hasn't had much
10:29of a break, we had a fantastic summer for England, have you seen any signs of fatigue
10:35with him?
10:37No, I mean we gave him as much time extra as we could to get a mental break as well
10:42as physical and I don't think so, he's had his fair share of question marks this season
10:47but so have we, so have I, so have what we've been trying to achieve, it happens after a
10:52very strong summer.
10:53He's a top class goalie, the England thing will sort itself out but he's a top class
10:58keeper and people can make all the sounds that they do about situations, that's fair
11:04but when you see someone you work with all the time, what he's done here and what he'll
11:07continue to do, then we just concentrate on that at this time.
11:10I appreciate it is a bit of a balancing act with injuries, some coming in, some coming
11:15out of the squad but all the signings were relatively young signings, so I just wondered
11:20how do you balance that with their want to play, fans want to see those new signings
11:25play but they've got a lack of experience with some of the more senior members of your
11:29squad, how do you balance that?
11:31Well that's exactly what we've been trying to do, bring them in to the side at the correct
11:35time, bring them in when they're ready, bring them in to dip them in, dip them out, give
11:38them that feel of Premier League football, some are ready, hand in glove, that's the
11:43way it goes, some take a longer period, Jake's been very patient, he's going to have to be
11:48because he's got three very, very good centre-halves, very experienced centre-halves there but he's
11:52one that he knows, he's learning all the time, I think he's been training very well, Illy's
11:57kind of come to life now that we've pushed him wider and he's come involved more, Tim
12:01had a really good pre-season, a really good start to it but if the truth be known he was
12:04probably the one we were thinking who was probably going to be more of a slow burner,
12:07so that's sometimes the way it changes and Jesper of course, you know, been in and out
12:12so far, you know, periods when he looks like we know what he can be and then other periods
12:15when he's found it tough and there lies the four stories of the Premier League, that's
12:19how it can be, it's our job to filter it, monitor it, monitor it daily, get feedback,
12:23see how they're feeling, see what they're learning, view their performances and try
12:26and get it right and try and get the timing right as well, when to put them in, you know
12:30and things you just put them in, if they're not ready you can really hurt players, you
12:33know, if they're not ready for the Premier League you can really affect what they're
12:36going to do in the Premier League so we're trying to build them in and get them there
12:40when they're ready and therefore they keep going and keep improving.
12:43So with that then, you mentioned Jake there, how close is he to starting for you, particularly
12:49when you've got Branthwaite as a maybe right now, how close, or what does he have to do,
12:54is it more?
12:55Gerrard's situation was a little bit different wasn't it, he'd been away on loan, he'd done
12:58well, slightly different, I know he's been at a club, not on loan and then came back
13:02in and took the beginning part, injured in pre-season, come through it and he's done
13:06very well, he's probably at that stage, you know, he's looking at them guys and they're
13:09very good players and very experienced players in the Premier League, I spoke to him about
13:13it, he's here for the longer view, so I think it's a four year contract so he'll be learning,
13:17he'll be looking at it and seeing it, he's had a couple of games as well, so his time
13:21will come.
13:22So is that more than, rather than the physical side of it, it's more the mental side, the
13:26psychological side?
13:27No it's everything, the Premier League's quicker, it's stronger, it's the mileage, all the rest
13:33of it, it all goes into the mental part, it's the mental side, it's dealing with all the
13:36games, the grandeur of all the games, Everton Football Club, what it is, all them things,
13:40they're all to be part of what their learning curve is, not just on the pitch, everything
13:44that's involved in it.
13:46Hi Sean, apologies, it's another general coaching question, but you're one of a small
13:56group of English Premier League managers, I'm just wondering if you can assess the state
14:01of coaching for English coaches, the level they're at, not necessarily in terms of what
14:06it takes to be the England job, but just in terms of where the game is at in terms of
14:11coaching?
14:12I can't assess it, because I don't know all the levels and who's working where, but an
14:16overview would be, everything that you learn on a course and all that sort of stuff is
14:20one thing, when you're actually out there doing it, that's a completely different thing,
14:24and the chance in the Premier League, we know there's only 20 Premier League clubs, let's
14:27imagine we're suggesting that's one of the top levels of football, which it is I believe,
14:32and around the world actually, then your chances are going to be limited just by the numbers
14:37game, and then if you put in the numbers game the amount of foreign ownership of clubs and
14:40the like, where they might look at foreign managers rather than English home grown managers,
14:44that's just part of the business, at the end of the day people want to win, they want someone
14:48who can do the job and help the team win and help the club be successful, that's what it
14:51actually boils down to for me.
14:53But in terms of, obviously there's a lot of talk about English coaches, a lot of English
14:59players in the Premier League, and how many numbers there were there, but in terms of
15:02the opportunities that English coaches get, obviously you say it's limited at the Premier
15:05League level, but...
15:07No, it's limited by the sheer number, you've got 20 jobs, and not many English owners,
15:12so foreign owners may well, just because they're a cultural background, go for a foreign manager,
15:16because they're used to that, it's not necessarily because they don't understand British coaches
15:20are good, bad or indifferent, or English coaches, it may be just because they're used to dealing
15:23with foreign managers and that's what they want, their model, some creative model that
15:27is more that way inclined.
15:29I think modern management is changing all the time, and I think it's going towards more
15:34of a head coach model, which I think we're all aware of now, and as I mentioned recently
15:39about this, it's going to be slightly different, it doesn't mean I'm managing everything, but
15:41it's a management style role, because of me sitting there and answering to everything,
15:45and that's more of a management situation, whereas a lot of models now are more in the
15:50coaching situation, so they're choosing coaches that they think can be successful, and some
15:55of the coaches are already used to that model, English-British coaches are still at clubs
15:59where they're getting used to that model I think, because it wasn't like that not so
16:02very long ago.
16:05Thanks Carl.
16:06Any further questions in the open section before we move on?