مدي 1 تي في : مع عبد العالي الصحراوي - 16/10/2024
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03:44Our guest tonight on the show, a great artist, Mr. Abu Ali al-Sahhari, how are you all doing?
03:50Welcome brother Osama, and we are honored to be here with you & all of a sudden to talk to you.
03:56Thank you very much. We would like to invite you and take this opportunity to get to know you,
04:02to get to know your art, your message.
04:06But before anything else, tell me about your relationship with music.
04:09Tell me about your relationship with music.
04:11Well, my relationship with music is my relationship with high school.
04:16Music, since I was young, since I was very young,
04:20and we are influenced by the neighborhood we have,
04:23which is the neighborhood of Al-Mal'ab in the city of Gulmim, Baab al-Sahra.
04:26This neighborhood is known, God willing, for its heritage, traditions, and art.
04:33I mean, it has a number of musical genres.
04:36So, when I was young, I was influenced by these arts and this place in the middle of these people.
04:44And this was the beginning.
04:46And your relationship with musical instruments?
04:49Thank God, I can't thank you enough.
04:52The people who are very close to me, thank God, I have a lot of knowledge about musical instruments.
04:59I mean, the guitar, the banjo, the violin.
05:05Also, the percussion, the drums, for example, the drums.
05:09I mean, a number of instruments that I am familiar with.
05:12This helps a lot because you grew up without music or singing.
05:16You grew up as a composer and a lyricist.
05:18And I think that a successful composer is better at understanding the musical instruments.
05:24Of course.
05:25This quality cannot be found in just anyone.
05:31A composer must be familiar with the maqams,
05:34as well as with the vocal transitions and playing.
05:38Also, a composer must be able to analyze the music by listening to it.
05:48You told us, Mr. Abdali Sahrawi, that you started as a musician and you were influenced by your environment.
05:53But I would like to go back to that time with you and remind us of your beginnings and your artistic path.
06:00I saw your songs.
06:01These are 10 years old and these are 11 years old.
06:03But you started before us.
06:04You are old, God willing.
06:05First of all, I started with a number of artists as a musician.
06:13And I was a bit shy.
06:17I was always late and I made people feel embarrassed.
06:23If you were late, you would have been in trouble.
06:24I used to sing in front of people and I used to play with them.
06:27And this added to my experience.
06:30I don't regret it.
06:31Of course.
06:32But everything takes time.
06:33I played the guitar, the tabla, the violin.
06:37This added to my experience and my presence in the artistic field.
06:42Do you also participate in the Zifa concerts in Arras?
06:46Of course.
06:47I am not lying.
06:48You need to have a certain level of education.
06:51You need to have the capacity.
06:53In order to be able to play one instrument, you need to know another instrument.
06:57I play in the Zifa concerts in Arras, in the special concerts, in the birthdays.
07:01I play in the Zifa concerts in Sheikh Bkheez, in the Zifa concerts in Suwari.
07:04Some people say that this is a shame.
07:06That you are losing the value of the artist.
07:08No, no.
07:09This is a big step.
07:10This is a stage in the artist's career.
07:11For example, the football player.
07:13He plays in the Olympic games.
07:15He plays in the Zanka, in the Housh, in the Stah.
07:18In Maja.
07:19Of course.
07:20People won't recognize you if you don't play.
07:24So, little by little, you are getting famous, you are getting ahead.
07:27You are in the front.
07:28You are on the stage.
07:29Thank God.
07:30The important thing is that we are moving forward.
07:33We are trying to speak in a mixed language between Hassani and Darija.
07:37So that all the Moroccans understand me and understand my music.
07:41For the Sahrawi, is it an artistic title or a family name?
07:46No.
07:47The family name, as people know it, is Barotil.
07:50In the past, when I participated in artistic events, people used to call me the Sahrawi Abdel Ali.
07:55In the Gulf, they used to call me the Moroccan Caravan.
07:59In the country, they used to call me the Sahrawi Bulbul.
08:02In Algeria, they used to call me the Moroccan Abdel Ali.
08:05That's how I became the Sahrawi Abdel Ali.
08:09What can you say about the Mawazin Festival?
08:12It is one of the most important events that you participated in in your artistic life.
08:17There are many festivals in the Mawazin category.
08:21For example, the Small Morocco Festival in the UAE.
08:24It is held in the Gulf of Morocco.
08:26I participated in a cultural event for 15 days.
08:29I won an award.
08:31There is also the Swera Festival.
08:34There is also the Week of Beauty Festival.
08:37There is also the Tantan Festival.
08:39There is also the Qawaf Festival.
08:42There are many festivals.
08:44The artistic and cultural events were held in parallel with the Mawazin Festival.
08:49The Mawazin Festival was a global event.
08:53It was held in parallel with the Mawazin Festival during the days of the Halib blockade.
08:58There was a strike and a massacre.
09:01We all participated in it.
09:03Thank God, there were many responses.
09:06It was a time for us to get on the right path.
09:09Your work is always successful.
09:12I wish you a lot of success in any artistic step you take.
09:16What I found out when I was preparing this interview
09:20is that you are passionate about Raya art and you sing Raya songs.
09:24Can you tell me more about this love?
09:28I was inspired by the different styles of Raya art.
09:35I was also inspired by the songs of Raya artists such as Khaled, Mami and many others.
09:43I was also inspired by the songs of Moroccan artists such as Cheb Mimou and many others.
09:48I love all kinds of beautiful and exciting songs.
09:54One of your beautiful songs is the song,
09:58which was released in the middle of the year.
10:02How did you make this song and how did you work on it?
10:06When I was a singer, I used to sing this song to the voters.
10:13I used to criticize the voters and tell them that I was singing the wrong song.
10:20I used to get paid for that.
10:25This year, I criticized all the artists, even one of them.
10:28They didn't criticize you?
10:30No, they didn't.
10:32I used to sing this song.
10:36It's called Ali Lelion.
10:38Yes, Ali Lelion.
10:42It has a bit of Sahrawi and Darija words.
10:46I used to sing this song in Spanish and English.
10:52I had a hope that I would be able to sing it.
10:57You knew about this song before the year of 2030?
10:59I sent it to a CD and I opened a number of doors.
11:02It was going to be paid for by the Royal College of Music.
11:06But, I felt I could do it and I took care of the problems that I was facing.
11:09So, I sang the lyrics and the lyrics and contacted the artists.
11:15I took a picture of it with my own money and I sent it to the VIPAL office.
11:19I didn't have any other choice but to buy a Rapunzel.
11:22The last Rapunzel was at the university.
11:24We were supposed to meet.
11:25So I came here.
11:26I had the song in my phone.
11:28I came here, took the phone out of my pocket,
11:30and started playing.
11:31So you took the phone out of your pocket.
11:33I canceled my appointment with Mr. Al-Khaja.
11:35I canceled it.
11:36And I played the song.
11:37I played the song.
11:38Oh my God.
11:39I canceled it.
11:40I had an appointment with him.
11:41In the library.
11:42In the library.
11:43I told him I was going to take it out.
11:44And I took it out.
11:45And thank God,
11:47This is a quarter note.
11:49A eighth note.
11:50And this is the quarter note.
11:52Many people believed in me.
11:55Yes, they believed in you.
11:56And this is the half note.
11:57Those who believed in me.
11:59Thank you so much.
12:00The song is great.
12:01Many people believed in me.
12:03And I found this great song.
12:05And I didn't know what I was going to do next.
12:07And God blessed me with France.
12:09Thank God, we reached a very good result.
12:10It's an honor for me.
12:12That I reached my goal.
12:15You won the first place in the elections
12:18Bravo, Atlas
12:19Bravo
12:20I wish you success in your career
12:23This song is about love for the country
12:28Love for Morocco and the people
12:31And the identity that we are proud of
12:34Both inside and outside the country
12:36The video clips are very important for you
12:40I think you have a team to help you
12:43In everything you do
12:45What everyone knows is that
12:47One of the problems and challenges
12:50That we face with the Sahrawi songs
12:53Is the social media
12:55In the Sahrawi regions
12:57And the video clips
12:59That are professional
13:01We still have a long way to go
13:03But we are trying to choose the best people
13:08I would like to thank Ibrahim Khalil-Birok
13:11And many other artists
13:13For their cooperation
13:15I think the Ministry of Culture
13:17Cooperates with the artists
13:19And the Sahrawis in Morocco
13:21Especially
13:23Thank God
13:25This is a good thing
13:27The Ministry of Culture
13:29And the way we talk
13:31With the King
13:33Every speech
13:35Confirms the need
13:37To promote the Sahrawi songs
13:39In Morocco
13:41Because it is not a part
13:43Of the Moroccan culture
13:45That's why
13:47The royal family
13:49Was invited
13:51To perform in the Sahrawi regions
13:55You can see that
13:57The Moroccan Sahrawi artists
13:59Are ready to participate
14:01In the national and international events
14:03Unfortunately
14:05This is the point
14:07That we always try
14:09To reach
14:11Because the Sahrawi songs
14:13Are rich
14:15In very popular
14:17Points
14:19And the words
14:21And the meanings
14:2340 million people
14:25Still listen to them
14:27Hassaniyya
14:29Has points
14:31That show
14:33That the Sahrawi songs
14:35Are still
14:37As good as
14:39The rest of the Moroccan music
14:41Because
14:43We are in the Sahrawi region
14:45And we still have the popular songs
14:47Of all the artists
14:49Do you understand?
14:51And the Sahrawi songs
14:53Are very good
14:55Why do you think
14:57There is a lack of understanding?
14:59First of all
15:01There is a lack of marketing
15:03For the Sahrawi songs
15:05There is no marketing
15:07And the Sahrawi songs
15:09Are not in the south
15:11So we have to give them
15:13A lot of attention
15:15First through social media
15:17Second
15:19We have to increase the support
15:21Of the Moroccan Sahrawi artists
15:23And we have to give them
15:25Their right to participate
15:27And we have to choose
15:29The Hassaniyya songs
15:31But we are one step ahead
15:33And I think that the Hassaniyya culture
15:35And the Moroccan Sahrawi art
15:37Is improving
15:39Compared to the past few years
15:41Why do you think
15:43The Moroccan Sahrawi songs
15:45Are not popular
15:47Both culturally and
15:49Touristically?
15:51The Sahrawi songs
15:53I still
15:55Do not have
15:57The support
15:59Of the Moroccan Sahrawi artists
16:01There is a support
16:03For example
16:05There is a TV channel
16:07That gives opportunities
16:09To the artists
16:11Who have artistic works
16:13But this is not enough
16:15The other channels
16:17Have to give opportunities
16:19To the Sahrawi artists
16:21We see this as a sign
16:23Of cooperation
16:25But we have to wait
16:27For the occasion
16:29Like the Green March
16:31Or the National Holiday
16:33To remember the Moroccan people
16:35And the Moroccan Sahrawi art
16:37All these events
16:39Are good and important
16:41And we create the opportunities
16:43And if we don't have the opportunity
16:45We create it
16:47And if we have a recommendation
16:49Of the Moroccan Sahrawi artists
16:51the Moroccans will definitely come and welcome them without knocking on their door.
16:57Indeed, this vision and this idea should be with all Moroccans.
17:01We should be proud of the Amazigh songs, the rural songs, the popular songs,
17:07and the popular songs should be proud of the Sahrawi songs,
17:10because we are happy and we are proud of this diversity and this cultural diversity that exists only in Morocco.
17:17What are the characteristics of the Sahrawi songs?
17:21Is there a big difference between the words of the song and the words of the money in the song?
17:26Of course, when we talk about the poetic purposes of the Sahrawi songs,
17:32the praise, the praise, the praise, the praise, for example,
17:36the little praise, I don't understand,
17:38when we say the word money, when we talk about the oriental,
17:42when we talk about the house, the donkey, the cigarette, the comfort of the soul,
17:46for example, even in the Hassaniyya, we have an arrangement,
17:50for example, we talk about Ibn Wahib, Ibn Wahib, for example,
17:53or Maryam Ida, and we close the hole, I mean the music,
17:57we close it with the beat, we close it with the beat, do you understand?
18:00This is the arrangement, you can't say anything about money if it doesn't go with the poem,
18:06which has rules, it's not just any money that you say, do you understand?
18:10The Sahrawi songs have rules and rules that not just any money you can say,
18:15there is money that comes with the praise, there is money with the Sini Maqam,
18:19there is money that you say in the Maqam that you stand in, which is the little one,
18:25for example, there is the drum, there is everything, there is the Ghazal, do you understand?
18:29It's nice that you like the Sahrawi music and the sound techniques.
18:34I'm not, I swear to God, I'm not one of the same,
18:38I mean, I'm not a part of the Sahrawi singers, I swear to God,
18:42I swear to God, I'm a poet, and there are people who understand and study in this field.
18:49In a while, we will hear you and we will hear something blessed,
18:53what can you give us?
18:54Should we do it traditional or something modern?
19:00Traditional is good.
19:01Do it.
19:02In the name of God.
20:08In the name of God.
20:10This is a little bit of a praise song, and that's it.
20:15A little praise.
20:19You are a Sahrawi.
20:21Do you speak to us of Ziyadawkhloog?
20:24I am Ziyadawkhloog from the city of Gulmi in Bab Al Sahra.
20:27You are a Sahrawi.
20:28Yes.
20:29But I'm from the city of Gulmi.
20:30And I'm a Sahrawi.
20:31I'm a Sahrawi.
20:31I'm a Sahrawi.
20:32And I'm a Sahrawi.
20:33I'm a Sahrawi.
20:33And I'm a Sahrawi.
20:34And I'm a Sahrawi.
20:35from the city of Goulmim in the Sahara.
20:38From the neighborhood of Tawagil,
20:41Zarktouni, Goulmim in the Sahara.
20:45We salute them all.
20:47And the people who watch us daily
20:50from the Sahrawi regions,
20:52we salute them, of course.
20:54We didn't forget you, Mr. Abdelali.
20:56What are the upcoming projects?
20:58Thank God, I have projects,
21:00God willing, here in the Cope d'Afrique,
21:03soon,
21:05God willing, I will have a song for Gaza,
21:08for the Palestinian people.
21:10I mean, we have been told
21:13that an artist should not only sing about happiness,
21:16but also about the whole population,
21:19and to deal with the events, the realities,
21:21and the challenges of life.
21:23And we, as Arabs, as Muslims,
21:25we must support these people in our songs.
21:27And there are new songs,
21:29there are also national songs,
21:31for the Moroccan people,
21:33our Moroccan Sahara,
21:35we will have songs, God willing,
21:37in the days to come,
21:39in conjunction with the great event
21:41and the celebration of the Green Masjid.
21:43Can you teach us a few words in Hasanian?
21:45Of course.
21:47Go ahead.
21:49We will say a poem in it.
21:50The Prince of the Believers,
21:52the Sahara has been left to the eye,
21:54and the King has inherited it.
21:56And the Sahara is for the King,
21:58and the day has come
22:00when the King will live
22:02with the news of his death.
22:04Do our neighbors and neighbors
22:06want to sit in our Sahara?
22:08Good.
22:10We can't add anything after this.
22:12God is the best country for the King.
22:14God is the best country for the King.
22:16This is what I wanted to tell you, Osama.
22:18The organizers and programmers
22:20should pay more attention
22:22to the Sahrawi songs
22:24because they have a problem
22:26that they are limited to two names only.
22:28Some artists say
22:30that they have a standard
22:32and they choose the people
22:34who have the buzz.
22:36No, you will give the buzz
22:38to the people to make the buzz.
22:40If you don't give the artist a chance,
22:42they won't make the buzz.
22:44I agree.
22:46Thank you very much, Osama.
22:48I thank the Media & TV team
22:50and the director
22:52and all the programmers
22:54and your company Media & TV.
22:58I wish you success.
23:00Welcome.
23:04This is the end of today's episode.
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