Visits to GISB-linked children on hold until they are safe, says Nancy

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Visitations between parents and children related to the GISB Holdings Sdn Bhd (GISB) are not allowed yet, says Datuk Seri Nancy Shukri.   The Women, Family and Community Development Minister said the ministry needs to ensure that the safehouses where the children are kept are secured from possible threats. Read more at https://shorturl.at/dgwdG  WATCH MORE: https://thestartv.com/c/news SUBSCRIBE: https://cutt.ly/TheStar LIKE: https://fb.com/TheStarOnline

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00:00I would like to ask about the ISBH issue. Yesterday, there was a meeting of the parliament.

00:07At that time, there was a meeting of the parliament.

00:11He claimed that the issue of the detention and rescue of the children of the ISBH is misleading.

00:19So, there are those who claimed that they were saved, but not at home.

00:23He claimed that it happened, he asked that and many more.

00:26Yes, I answered that he was not in jail.

00:28Actually, most of them heard from social media.

00:33So, like us, as JKM, we follow where the police take us.

00:38But our focus is only on the children.

00:41Because that is our target group.

00:46And if the police take us to another place, that is the police's job, not ours.

00:52But if they take us to a place that does not involve the children, we are not involved.

00:59We are only prepared to involve the children.

01:04But maybe the police go to the premises that they know are under the ISBH.

01:11So, as an outsider, to say that we only follow our heart, no.

01:19The police have been prepared from the beginning.

01:23They have been investigating from the beginning.

01:26Or they have been studying from the beginning.

01:30Studying, yes.

01:32They know better.

01:35But under the ISBH, they only target the children.

01:41And if the children or their parents are there,

01:45they are only there because there is a case in which Remedio said that he only rented that place.

01:51That is because we do not have proof that he really rented it.

01:54So, he is not a member of the ISBH.

01:59So, he was released by the police.

02:01And then we return his child to him as he wishes.

02:05He wants us to go and send an OILS request, that is his mother-in-law, to take care of him.

02:13So, the child is not included in our calculations.

02:16So, we are not impartial because we do not want to separate the child from his parents.

02:23So, most of the children that are with us now are 560.

02:29And some say, why 560? Why is there another 558?

02:33Those two people together with their mother.

02:36That is proof that we do not want to separate the mother from the child.

02:40So, that is the situation.

02:42So, we are not impartial when it comes to going to a house that is alleged.

02:51I just hope, I would like to ask the media to cooperate. Thank you very much.

02:56We hope that people out there do not listen to what is said on social media.

03:02I also follow it because I want to know what is said.

03:06I want to know what is happening.

03:11Because what is happening in Padang, I went there myself.

03:14I know what is happening.

03:16But I did not go on social media because that is a safe place.

03:20People should not talk about it.

03:23A lot of people came to show their support.

03:27We do not refuse.

03:29But we should take care of them in a safe place.

03:34They are still being investigated.

03:36And maybe some people would like to ask.

03:39Some parents have come to demand their children.

03:46We do not refuse.

03:47Because we have already accepted.

03:49Yesterday, I spoke to the government.

03:51There are 200 people.

03:53So, it is in our list.

03:56And we are still investigating those 200 people.

03:58Because when we take the children and keep them in our protection...

04:04...we are asking from the court.

04:06So, we cannot just release the children.

04:10We also need to ask from the court.

04:13But we also need to investigate the mothers who demand it.

04:19If it is true, we do not want to keep their children.

04:25It is going to be our own...

04:28It is not a problem. It is a challenge for us to find a way to take care of them.

04:32So, if it is really their children, we will return them.

04:37But we need to abide by the existing laws.

04:41Some of the children do not even know their mothers.

04:45I spoke to the court yesterday.

04:48They do not know. They do not know.

04:50That is why we cannot just...

04:53They claim that they want to take their children.

04:57If it is really their children, we can prove it.

05:00Alhamdulillah, we can release their children.

05:05But again, we need to abide by the law.

05:14Not yet.

05:16Because when you open the floodgates...

05:21It is going to be crowded.

05:23People who are not their parents will come.

05:26Because we can understand that there are places...

05:29There are people who are begging out there.

05:32So, we do not know if it is their father or someone else.

05:36So, we do not get anything.

05:38That is why it is called a safe place.

05:40When it is a safe place...

05:42The first thing we need to do is...

05:46The place must be really safe.

05:50Okay, last question.

05:53We do not know.

05:57We do have a guard.

06:07Because the thing is...

06:09The first one that we protected for two months.

06:13So, after that, if everything is okay, we have to release.

06:16But if it is still there, it cannot be released...

06:21For certain reasons, legal reasons especially.

06:24So, we have to keep them.

06:26But to keep them, we have to reapply.

06:28So, we have to apply for extension.

06:31The first procedure is two months.

06:36And then two months.

06:38The last one will be three years, if necessary.

06:41So far, maybe by early next month.

06:45We have to release them if we can prove that they are the children of the young mothers.

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