鶴瓶ちゃんとサワコちゃん～昭和の大先輩とおかしな２人～ 2024年10月14日 【#25 タレント・堺正章】
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00:00Today's guest is Mr. Masaaki Sakai.
00:04Nice to meet you.
00:06You're still so stylish.
00:10Who influenced you?
00:14I like dressing up.
00:18There are many stylists out there,
00:24but I decided to wear socks today.
00:28I like your socks.
00:30They're brown and black.
00:34I was wondering what kind of socks would look good on me.
00:40I see.
00:41There are a lot of mistakes.
00:42I see.
00:43But if it goes well, I can have a fun day.
00:48I can't have a fun day.
00:50I've been thinking,
00:52Oh, no!
00:54I don't like that.
00:56You can see what I'm wearing
01:00before I talk to you.
01:03Which way should I talk to you?
01:05I don't like that.
01:07It's weird to talk to you face to face.
01:09I'm the one who's annoyed.
01:13Do something about it.
01:15That's right.
01:17That's what I'm told.
01:19I'll talk to you from here again.
01:22Don't abuse the old man.
01:26I just realized that.
01:29I don't want to get in the way.
01:32If you say something,
01:34I have to react to it.
01:36I don't like this position.
01:39You have to talk to me.
01:41I'll talk to you.
01:43I'll talk to you.
01:45I'll talk to you.
01:49I'll put up with it.
01:51I want you to put up with me.
01:54That's right.
01:56You've been on this show more than 20 times.
01:59I want you to put up with me as much as possible.
02:04There are so many guests who are older than me.
02:06I have to look around.
02:09I'm going to turn around.
02:11I'm turning around.
02:14I fell in love with someone.
02:16I fell in love with someone.
02:18I fell in love with Mr. Kamiya.
02:23The legend of the Spiders is revealed now.
02:28Mr. Kenji Sawada was there at that time.
02:31I thought he was a very lucky person.
02:35And then I met Mr. Kenji Sawada, who was unknown at the time.
02:40It's time.
02:42It's time for the Spiders.
02:44It's not a drama.
02:46I'm going down.
02:48Is that so?
02:49Yes.
02:51I'm going to ask a lot of questions about the entertainment world of Showa.
03:01Tsurume and Sawako.
03:03Showa's great seniors and weird people.
03:06Bang! Bang! Bang!
03:09I've been in the entertainment world for a long time.
03:12I've given it all.
03:13Spiders, too.
03:15I've been in the entertainment world since the early days.
03:20I was confident about being on TV.
03:29I used to be on stage.
03:33It's my...
03:37That's funny.
03:40It's annoying.
03:41I'm talking about good things.
03:43You don't have to come at that time.
03:46It's important to pretend not to be there.
03:48That's good.
03:49I'll pretend not to be there.
03:51I'll pretend not to be there for a while.
03:53I was on stage.
03:55I was training myself to fly a watch.
03:59It's a little different from the fact that the radio makes it easier to fly.
04:04I did my best.
04:08I started doing TV from that time.
04:11I'm sorry.
04:15I started doing it.
04:18About 50 years?
04:20That's right.
04:21It's been over 50 years.
04:23The era of TV.
04:24Before that, we were in the era of hell.
04:26It was hell.
04:27Hell, hell.
04:29I've been through a lot.
04:33When I saw it, it was very popular.
04:36It sold well, but it was hell.
04:39At the beginning of the Spiders, it was really miserable.
04:46Nakaomie's Kawaii Baby was a hit.
04:50Fighting Harada was the boxing world champion.
04:56Showa 37.
05:00Masaaki Sakai, 16 years old, entering high school.
05:06He joined the Spiders.
05:09But it was a big deal at the time.
05:13There were seven members of the Spiders.
05:16Seven people were on stage and three people were watching.
05:21What are you going to do?
05:23I told him to change.
05:25Why did you have so many people?
05:27It would have been nice if there were only four people.
05:29Tanabe-san gathered them, right?
05:31Tanabe-san gathered the members.
05:35The members had changed.
05:37But Tanabe-san said,
05:39This group will definitely sell.
05:42So he gathered them.
05:44I was the last member before Jun Inoue.
05:50Kamaishi-san came out and came in.
05:54He came out and came in, but he didn't get angry at all.
05:58He didn't get angry at all.
06:01There was a time when Kamaishi-san was already a guest.
06:06He wasn't there.
06:08As soon as the song sold, he became a member.
06:13But he didn't like it.
06:15Even if you listen to it later.
06:17It's a bit of a denial to sell a song like that.
06:25As a musician, I like rock and roll.
06:29I used to like Bruce Anders.
06:32I was a little worried that it would sell like a pop song.
06:39There are two kinds of Spiders' songs.
06:42It's like a pop song.
06:44It's a very experimental song.
06:50It's just a popular singer.
06:52I think it was attractive that he kept going in different directions.
06:57But what was in the roots was rock and roll.
07:06I've always wanted to do that kind of thing.
07:10Kamaishi-san was the one who made it bloom.
07:15The different flowers that came out of the roots here
07:20Most of the songs were written by different teachers.
07:27Sakai-san has reached his peak many times.
07:33As the son of Sakai Shunji, he was scouted by Tanabe-san.
07:38I don't know why I have to talk about it.
07:41Spiders became very popular.
07:44It's been two or three years.
07:48It was fast.
07:50It was fast to go up, but it was also fast to fall.
07:54There are a lot of videos.
07:56There are a lot of girls.
07:59At that time, it was very popular.
08:02I feel like I'm getting on.
08:04I can't have Jun Inoue and Sakai-san.
08:07I'll hold anything.
08:10You did your best.
08:13I can't talk to Jun Inoue anymore.
08:16I'm going to sing soon.
08:20We're not a comic band.
08:25Tanabe-san got angry at me.
08:28But the stage was fun.
08:31If you don't have fun, you can't finish it.
08:35There was a situation like that.
08:38At a jazz cafe, there was only one person sitting.
08:44He didn't sit so far away.
08:47He sat in front of me.
08:49I said, I'll go from the first song.
08:51Can I get a theme song?
08:54I said, what?
08:56He said, I got it.
08:58I said, let's go.
09:01When I came out, the power went out.
09:05What happened?
09:08The manager said,
09:10I turned off the power.
09:12It's a waste of electricity.
09:15He called me.
09:17But I couldn't perform as it was.
09:21He said, I'm sorry.
09:23I said, I'll turn it off.
09:25I felt a lot of humiliation.
09:29But later, when I went there,
09:32I was surprised to hear that he turned off the power.
09:36He disappeared.
09:38He disappeared with the power.
09:41Did he disappear?
09:43I think the manager is like that.
09:45When I was in junior high school,
09:48in the pre-war period of the group,
09:51I used to chase my friends who liked the Spiders.
09:56It was near Shinanomachi Station.
09:58A thousand days...
10:01A thousand days ago.
10:03A thousand days ago.
10:05I heard there were Spiders.
10:07So I went to the Seirafuku school.
10:10There were a lot of female students.
10:13There were members of Military Look, like Mr. Machiaki.
10:18We talked.
10:20My family was strict.
10:22I told my friend to go home early.
10:25When I was about to go home,
10:27Mr. Machiaki came up to me and said,
10:29Are you going home already?
10:31He said,
10:33Are you going home already?
10:35Stay a little longer.
10:37I was moved.
10:39Since then?
10:41Yes.
10:43That was the first time we met.
10:45For me.
10:47I don't know if you remember.
10:49A thousand days ago.
10:51Is that your father's personality?
10:54I don't know.
10:56It's rare.
10:58It's rare for an ordinary person to say,
11:01Stay a little longer.
11:03It's rare.
11:05Like Mr. Tsurube.
11:07Maybe it's because of the era of Chueh.
11:10The way we talk has changed a lot.
11:14Maybe it's because of what we've been doing.
11:18I think so.
11:20I see.
11:22I'll see you again.
11:24We haven't changed.
11:26I think so.
11:28He still has a producer's mind.
11:31He never disappears.
11:33Was he a producer from the beginning?
11:36I think so.
11:38He has a very strong feeling.
11:40He was a drummer.
11:42He said,
11:44Don't do what you know the answer to.
11:47It's interesting because you don't know the answer.
11:51Let's go that way.
11:54He's still like that.
11:56He's still like that.
11:58You met a good person.
12:00If it wasn't for him,
12:02I wouldn't have been able to do my best.
12:06I think there was a part of me that failed.
12:09He always said,
12:11It's going to get better.
12:13It's going to get better every day.
12:15The image.
12:17He inherited this.
12:19He did his best every day.
12:22It was tough.
12:24Is Mr. Tanabe older than you?
12:26Yes.
12:28Mr. Tanabe is older than me.
12:31The entertainment industry is also older than me.
12:35It's tough.
12:37Usually, when the band is over,
12:40we all go out for a drink.
12:44We all get together and have a good time.
12:48We eat.
12:50It's good to have a good time.
12:52But I was told,
12:54Don't talk on the stage.
12:56It's not good.
12:58I was told that.
13:00Most of the time,
13:02Jun Inoue is the one who makes a claim.
13:06Did you listen to Jun Inoue?
13:08Yes, I did.
13:10But at one point,
13:12I couldn't stand it anymore,
13:14so I jumped out.
13:16That was when I was practicing
13:18with Mr. Tanabe.
13:20You couldn't stand it anymore?
13:22I couldn't stand it anymore.
13:24He said,
13:26What's your chorus?
13:28I said, Stop the chorus.
13:30I wasn't good at it at the time.
13:32I couldn't help it.
13:34I said, I'll stop it.
13:36But Jun Inoue was the best among the Spiders.
13:40He had that face and that sense.
13:42There were two of them.
13:44But he was the youngest,
13:46so I thought,
13:48I wasn't talking to him,
13:50I was talking to everyone.
13:52I was talking to everyone.
13:54Then he said,
13:56What is it?
13:58He brought a glass dish.
14:00Everyone avoided it.
14:06What is it?
14:08Did you throw the dish?
14:10No, I didn't.
14:12I wasn't good at it.
14:14Everyone avoided it.
14:16Then he left.
14:18There were six members left.
14:20The next day,
14:22we had to perform
14:24the first act
14:26of the group
14:28called Beach Boys.
14:30There were six of us.
14:32Didn't Mr. Inoue come?
14:34No, he didn't.
14:36We did it.
14:38Then the chorus was beautiful.
14:40Poor Jun.
14:42So I thought,
14:44I don't need him anymore.
14:46No, no.
14:48I can't answer that.
14:50But the members were interesting.
14:52They were different ages.
14:54They were different ages.
14:56But Mr. Inoue was cool, too.
14:58He was sweet.
15:00He had a great courage
15:02and a great spirit of service.
15:04He had a spirit of service
15:06that was more than necessary.
15:08Don't make me say it.
15:10I was very anxious.
15:12There was a scene
15:14where the sun was crying.
15:16There was a scene
15:18called Western Carnival.
15:20When the sun was crying
15:22and the Spiders came up,
15:24there was a sunbeam.
15:26There were three or four sunbeams.
15:28All of the audience
15:30came up to the Spiders
15:32and sang
15:34the song
15:36of the sun crying.
15:38Then the sunbeam
15:40was crying again.
15:42Inoue,
15:44when he sang
15:46the song,
15:48he sang
15:50the song
15:52of the Spiders
15:54and sang
15:56the song
15:58of the Spiders.
16:00I thought it was strange.
16:02I thought it was strange.
16:04I sang the song
16:06I was like, what? Who is this?
16:10Then I saw Inoe-san's hand behind the chorus.
16:16I thought, this is bad.
16:18This is going to ruin my position.
16:21So I dragged Inoe-san into the world of comedy.
16:24Ah, the second world.
16:26I don't know.
16:27But the part he pulled out for me was really big.
16:33Why were you scouted by Tanabe-san in the first place?
16:38Who? Me?
16:39Yes, Sakai-san.
16:40It's a long story, so I'll keep it short.
16:45I wanted to sing.
16:47I had been learning jazz, standard jazz.
16:51I was thinking of taking that path.
16:55But my father told me not to enter this world a year ago.
16:59He told you?
17:00He absolutely refused.
17:02He said, this world is tough, so quit.
17:06As a parent...
17:07He told me to take a more solid path.
17:11I asked him for 500 yen a year.
17:16In the end, he gave up.
17:18When he gave up,
17:20my father's acquaintances and other people
17:27told me to quit what my son wanted to do
17:31and take a side path.
17:33There were people who told you that?
17:35There were.
17:36So I said, why don't I let him do what he wants to do?
17:42And he said OK.
17:44When he said OK, he became very cooperative.
17:49At that time,
17:51I asked Mr. Hori of Hori Pro
17:55if my son wanted to sing a song like that.
18:01He said he had a band called Spiders.
18:04It's not a famous band yet, but they have a band called Spiders.
18:07He asked me to join them.
18:11So I joined Spiders.
18:13Mr. Hori told you?
18:14Yes.
18:15He asked you to join Spiders?
18:17Who was in Spiders at that time?
18:19Was there a member of Spiders at that time?
18:21No, there wasn't.
18:23It was a completely different band.
18:25So I joined Spiders.
18:27I was happy that I got a license as a professional.
18:31But I was worried that I wouldn't be able to do it.
18:35I was so worried.
18:37I thought I shouldn't do it.
18:41I thought it was a group that couldn't sing.
18:45But Mr. Tanabe's spirit was very strong.
18:51So I didn't quit.
18:53After a few years,
18:55the members of Spiders came.
18:57Mr. Kamayasu came,
18:59Mr. Jun Inoue came,
19:01and Mr. Takaiki Inoue in the back.
19:03Mr. Takaiki Inoue was a guitarist at first.
19:05He must have been very good.
19:07Did he sing?
19:09He danced and sang.
19:11Did he dance?
19:13I've taught him how to dance.
19:15I've taught him how to dance and sing.
19:17One day,
19:19I asked Mr. Tanabe to play the guitar.
19:21You asked him to focus on playing the guitar.
19:23But he was so good.
19:25It took half a year.
19:27At that time,
19:29there were other members.
19:31For example, Tempters.
19:33Blue Comets.
19:35Tigers.
19:37Tigers, Tempters.
19:39Wild Ones.
19:42Jaguars.
19:44I know.
19:46I'm getting loud.
19:48Jaguars!
19:50It was a long time ago.
19:52But it was a long time ago.
19:54Spiders came.
19:56At first,
19:58there were only Blue Comets and Spiders.
20:00There were only Blue Comets and Spiders.
20:02There were no Tempters and Tigers yet.
20:04Then,
20:06Blue Shadows came.
20:08Then,
20:11I remember.
20:13It's a good song.
20:15We sang,
20:17Yuhi was crying.
20:19This song was like a wall.
20:21The song was like a wall.
20:23The song was like a wall.
20:25Blue Comets came out.
20:27Spiders were not good.
20:29Why?
20:31It was provocative.
20:33Blue Comets were like a salaryman.
20:35They wore suits.
20:37It was a healthy job.
20:39It was provocative.
20:41So, I said,
20:43I'll be a salaryman.
20:45It's a game.
20:47I know.
20:49It was a big time.
20:51It was a big time.
20:53When I went to Kyoto,
20:55there were about 200 girls.
20:57there were about 200 girls.
20:59They asked me to tell them
21:01my favorite food.
21:03When I looked at them,
21:05there were about 5 men.
21:08I told them I was in a band.
21:10In Kyoto?
21:12Yes, in Kyoto.
21:14They were Tigers.
21:16Did you sit there?
21:18Yes, in my fan club.
21:20I didn't pay the fee.
21:22I didn't pay the fee.
21:24What did I do?
21:26I joined a group called Funnies.
21:28Funnies.
21:30In front of Tigers.
21:32I was like,
21:34will I be a professional?
21:36At that time,
21:38Kenji Sawada was there.
21:40I thought,
21:42he was a great person.
21:44I could see his aura.
21:46But he told me
21:48I should think about
21:50becoming a professional.
21:52It's hard.
21:54It's hard.
21:56Half a year later,
21:58he stepped on us.
22:00He stepped on us.
22:02He stepped on us.
22:05It was amazing.
22:07The momentum.
22:09We were
22:11on the concrete.
22:13On the gravel road.
22:15We were running
22:17at such a high speed.
22:19It was amazing.
22:21At the first stage,
22:23the audience was
22:25screaming.
22:27We were watching.
22:29Sawada and the others
22:31were singing.
22:34I said,
22:36thank you for your hard work.
22:38I looked at his face.
22:40He said,
22:42I made a lot of noise.
22:44It's a good line.
22:46We can't use it now.
22:48We can't use it now.
22:50The popularity dropped.
22:52The popularity dropped.
22:54What did you do after that?
22:56What did you do after that?
22:58At that time,
23:00TV became
23:02a big thing.
23:04You were on the show
23:06when you were on Spiders.
23:08Yes.
23:10Yes.
23:12Yes.
23:14Yes.
23:16Yes.
23:18Yes.
23:20Yes.
23:22Yes.
23:24Yes.
23:26Yes.
23:28Yes.
23:31Yes.
23:33Yes.
23:35Yes.
23:37Yes.
23:39Yes.
23:41Yes.
23:43Yes.
23:45Yes.
23:47Yes.
23:49Yes.
23:51Yes.
23:53Yes.
23:55Yes.
23:57Yes.
23:59The most popular drama starring Masaaki Sakai,
24:06Jikan Desu Yo! begins.
24:12Mr. Mukoda wrote the first drama.
24:18We changed the scenes.
24:23Mr. Kiki Kirin and Ms. Asada Miyoko.
24:29When Mr. Mukoda watched the drama,
24:34he said,
24:37this is not a drama.
24:41I will get off.
24:43He wrote two lines.
24:46Is that so?
24:48Mr. Kiki Kirin and Ms. Asada Miyoko
24:52made the scene as they wanted.
24:56That's you, isn't it?
24:58Yes, that's right.
25:00That's not all.
25:02I see.
25:04I got off and the other writers answered.
25:09That wasn't a drama.
25:12Of course, Mr. Morimitsuko and Ms. Funakoshi
25:17made the scene as a drama.
25:20But when they came to us,
25:22they didn't have a plot.
25:25I called them guerrillas.
25:30We added them little by little.
25:33But Mr. Kuje protected it.
25:37He is great.
25:39I didn't say,
25:41if Mr. Mukoda quit,
25:43I would be in trouble.
25:45I didn't say,
25:47I won't do that.
25:49I said,
25:51I will continue this drama.
25:53I said,
25:55Mr. Mukoda,
25:57I'm sorry,
25:59but please write a better book
26:01for a better drama.
26:03I got off.
26:05I said,
26:07everyone's momentum
26:09went in the same direction.
26:13So, a pattern was made.
26:15A human relationship.
26:17It was completed.
26:19At that time,
26:21Mr. Kiki said,
26:23he was a fan of Juri.
26:25He posted a poster.
26:27Yes, I remember that.
26:29I was unpleasant.
26:31That's true.
26:33He was in a group.
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34:45I had to play my father's role, so it was hard.
34:50But my father was really not there.
34:53Your father was not at home?
34:55He was there.
34:57He would come out of the movie theater.
34:59Of course.
35:00He was there.
35:02He was there, but the cut was short.
35:06I watched my father in the movie.
35:10I wondered what he was thinking.
35:14Now that I think about it,
35:17I realized that I had to protect my family.
35:21I had to do my best in Kyoto.
35:24Now you understand.
35:26Yes, I understand that I had to do my best.
35:31Now, Shunji Sakai and Masaaki Sakai,
35:34and your daughter,
35:36who is now an actress in Asadora,
35:41how do you feel?
35:43How do you feel?
35:45You said you wanted to be an actress.
35:47No, no, no.
35:48You said you wanted to follow Sakai.
35:50Yes, I said I wanted to follow Sakai.
35:53Did you say that yourself?
35:55Yes, I did.
35:57My real name is Kurihara,
36:02so if I thought Sakai would end up like my father,
36:07I would follow him.
36:10For my father, there is no parent and child like this.
36:13Yes, that's right.
36:14I want him to be an actress for a long time from now on.
36:22Surprisingly, there is a part where he follows his grandfather's blood.
36:26He's the type of person who doesn't talk much.
36:30He'll find out eventually.
36:32He's in a good drama.
36:34Yes, yes.
36:35He's going to be recognized from now on.
36:37It's not just that he's going to appear.
36:39He has to be recognized.
36:42I'd be very happy if he could do that for a long time.
36:47I've been taking care of Sakai for 60 years.
36:55I'm happy to be able to give him to my daughter.
37:00You're happy, aren't you?
37:02You want him to follow Sakai.
37:04That's a good story.
37:07He has a kind face.
37:09I've never seen a face that's grown up.
37:13Do you often eat with your daughter?
37:16Yes, we do.
37:18You're happy, aren't you?
37:20Do you talk to your father?
37:23Do you talk about how hard it is to be in the same world?
37:26I don't really talk about it.
37:29I don't really talk about it.
37:32My father told me that it was because I was born in a different era.
37:39I want to do what my daughter wants to do.
37:42I'll support her from a distance,
37:45but I can't go close to her and be like a manager.
37:49For example, have you ever seen your daughter in a drama or a movie?
37:57Yes, I have.
37:59How do you feel when you see her?
38:01Do you tell her what to do?
38:04No, I don't.
38:06I just watch it and that's it.
38:08That's it?
38:10You don't say anything bad about it?
38:13She's in a play,
38:16so it's a little different from being on a talk show.
38:25It's very easy to watch.
38:28I don't watch any of my plays.
38:30Me neither.
38:32You don't watch them?
38:34No, I don't.
38:36I don't watch this either.
38:38Please watch it.
38:40It's okay if you don't watch it because you don't know what I'm talking about,
38:43but I don't watch any of them.
38:46It's embarrassing.
38:48It's over.
38:50The problem is what the staff will do after this.
38:55I can't stand there.
38:58It's a picture that everyone has edited by themselves.
39:02It has nothing to do with me.
39:05I don't watch the same things.
39:07I don't even watch dramas.
39:09You don't watch movies?
39:10No, I don't.
39:11Even when you're with Sayuri Yoshinaga?
39:13Well, it's a little different.
39:15It depends on what you're watching.
39:18I watch it when I have a sense of value.
39:22I can't watch it because I'm with Sayuri Yoshinaga.
39:27He's my younger brother.
39:29He's my younger brother.
39:31You can't imagine it.
39:33I can't imagine it.
39:34I don't have a brother like that.
39:36You don't have one?
39:37Are you a stepbrother?
39:38No, I'm not a stepbrother.
39:39I'm a real brother.
39:41Excuse me.
39:43I'm a real brother.
39:48After this, Tsurube and Agawa were surprised.
39:53Masaaki Sakai's Car Life
40:02Masaaki Sakai, 78 years old.
40:07About the present and the future.
40:10You like cars, don't you?
40:12I have a lot of hobbies.
40:14I was wondering when you'd say that.
40:17I like cars, too.
40:19Really?
40:20Tsurube, do you like cars, too?
40:22You don't know, do you?
40:23I used to drive a car from the same era as you.
40:26I used to drive a car from the same era as you.
40:29I still drive it.
40:31This is a Lancia B24.
40:38It's a Lancia called Spider America.
40:41It was made in 1955.
40:43You drive this car?
40:45Yes, I drive this car.
40:48This car is like a needle to me.
40:52It's important to have a needle while having fun.
40:56Of course, work is important.
40:58I think it's good to have a needle in my time.
41:06Do you go on a trip with this car?
41:08I go on a trip with this car.
41:10For example, I go to Nagoya.
41:14I go to Hokkaido and Kyushu.
41:17I go to Hokkaido and Kyushu.
41:19I go to Nagoya and Kyushu.
41:24I go to Nagoya and Kyushu.
41:27I go to Nagoya and Kyushu.
41:29I do this.
41:32You don't break even one lightbulb?
41:35Lightbulb?
41:36No, no.
41:38Even lightbulbs are old.
41:42Like this.
41:44Right.
41:45The most important thing is that the parts are out of stock currently.
41:50You need to get the parts somewhere.
41:53I see.
41:54This is a Maserati A6 CTS Series 1.
42:05Have you ever been on a classic car tour in Karuizawa?
42:09Yes, I have.
42:10When I was in Karuizawa, I thought you were Machiavelli.
42:13Are you calling me?
42:14I'm sorry. I'm a celebrity.
42:16You should check the details.
42:18Machiavelli!
42:19I didn't say that.
42:20Machiavelli.
42:22This was made in 1948.
42:251948?
42:27I like the color.
42:32I'm glad to be praised.
42:34I'm sure you are.
42:35It's good to have a car you like at home.
42:40How many more years can I do this?
42:43You can do more.
42:45I can't take this to the grave.
42:49Is this it?
42:51I've been doing this since I was a kid.
42:53I've been doing this since I was a kid.
42:55I've been doing this since I was a kid.
42:57Suddenly...
42:58Wipers?
42:59Wipers started to rain.
43:01After a while, this side started to come out.
43:05I was wondering what was going on.
43:08This side comes out.
43:10Outside?
43:11Outside.
43:12I made a space.
43:13I made a space.
43:14I opened it.
43:15I opened it.
43:16I opened it.
43:17It was still coming out.
43:19I stopped.
43:22It's cute.
43:28I was like a gun.
43:32A man with a gun turned around and said,
43:34A man with a gun turned around and said,
43:36I'm going to break it.
43:37I'm going to break it.
43:38I'm going to break it.
43:40I'm surprised at your hobby.
43:44I can't ride it.
43:46I can't ride it.
43:49That's funny.
43:52Is there anything like that?
43:54This is a wheel cap.
43:56This is a wheel cap.
43:59Mr. Karasawa and I.
44:01Mr. Karasawa and I.
44:02Two of my friends.
44:03Two of my friends.
44:05When I just bought this car,
44:07When I just bought this car,
44:09we all ran to Yasaki.
44:11we all ran to Yasaki.
44:13to take a picture.
44:15To take a picture.
44:18We stopped at the parking lot.
44:23We stopped at the parking lot.
44:24Mr. Karasawa said
44:25Mr. Karasawa said
44:26We don't have a wheel cap.
44:30That's a lie.
44:31It's important.
44:32Sometimes it's scary.
44:35Don't be scared.
44:37Don't be scared.
44:39Did you lie?
44:40Did you lie?
44:41I was serious.
44:42I saw a picture of how far it was.
44:49I took a picture of it.
44:52It was at Shirakaba-ko.
44:56It was 40km from there to Unagi-yama.
45:00I was looking for it for 40km.
45:04I said I would go back again.
45:06Everyone would follow me.
45:09Normally, I would say,
45:11Mr. Karasawa, excuse me for a moment.
45:13He would follow me.
45:15I would go back.
45:17I would go back again.
45:19I would say, Mr. Sakai,
45:21let's not look for it and regret it.
45:23Let's look for it and regret it.
45:25That's a good line.
45:27Let's go.
45:29Let's go for 40km.
45:31Let's see what's shining.
45:35I was with my wife.
45:37She told me not to look for it.
45:39You shouldn't look for it.
45:41I went back to Shirakaba-ko.
45:43I went back.
45:45There was a place where you could go fast.
45:47There was a place where you could go fast.
45:51I went there.
45:53I went there.
45:55I looked and there was nothing.
45:57I looked at the opposite direction
45:59and decided to go back to Unagi-yama.
46:02Let's go for 40km again.
46:04Let's go for 40km again.
46:06You can't go fast.
46:08It's a downhill.
46:10It's not a highway.
46:12If it was a highway,
46:14it would be dangerous.
46:16It's a downhill, so let's go slowly.
46:18I found it.
46:20I found it.
46:22I found it.
46:24I found it.
46:26I found it.
46:28I found it.
46:30I found it.
46:34What was the sound of my dog?
46:40It was really scary.
46:44What is that?
46:46What was the day like for you,
46:48Masaaki Sakai?
46:50What is that?
46:52What is that?
46:54What is that?
46:56I had a lot of fun today.
46:58I was very glad to finish it.
47:00I had a lot of fun, too.
47:02Without thinking about being nervous,
47:04I came to every house.
47:06I came to every house.
47:08Most of them are my family's houses.
47:10Most of them are my family's houses.
47:12I was very anxious to go to
47:14most of them.
47:16When we went to the auditorium,
47:18we were asked
47:20why we had dogs inside.
47:22We were asked why we had dogs inside.
47:24When he said this,
47:26I couldn't hear you at all.
47:31You hurt me.
47:33Did I hurt you?
47:35But I really enjoyed talking to you.
47:40I'm glad.
47:42What was the sound of the car?
47:44Bang! Bang! Bang!
47:47It was a backfire.
47:49Oh, a backfire.
47:50Bang!
47:51I was scared.
47:58Who's next week?
47:59Who's next week?
48:00Tatsuhiro.
48:01Oh, Tatsuhiro.
48:02He has a wonderful way of getting old.
48:04That's a motorcycle.
48:06Oh, a motorcycle.
48:07How about a motorcycle?
48:09A motorcycle...
48:11What kind of muffler is it?
48:12Bang!
48:14I was surprised.
48:16Bang!
48:17I like this kind of sound.
48:20Bang!
48:22Finally, a great senior from the Showa era.
48:26A life lesson from Masaaki Sakai.
48:32I'm the water in front of you.
48:36Masaaki Sakai.
48:41Next time, Tatsuhiro.
48:45Tetsuya Watari and Hiroshi Hiroshima's backfire scene.
48:52I was going to lick each other's wounds.
48:56Hiroshima said,
48:57Get in the Ishara pool.
48:59That's what Watari said.
49:01Hiroshi, I'll take care of this story.
49:03That's cool.