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00:00It's time for the AEW WrestleDream 2024 predictions. I'm Luke Owen DAD, this is Tempest and welcome
00:15to WrestleTalk. Please do press that subscribe button, give us a little thumbs up and leave
00:18a comment down below with what you think is going to happen at WrestleDream. Also sign
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00:27world prizes to be won. It's a grand old time. I'm actually having a pretty good season.
00:32I had a perfect card for bad blood. Thanks to Rhea Ripley and Liv Morgan boxing up the
00:38finish because I was so sure that Rhea was winning. I was like, there's no way this feud
00:43continues after this show. Rhea wins the belt back and we can all move on with our lives.
00:48And then they absolutely effed the finish. So, uh, Rhea won by DQ. You lucky dog. Perfect
00:55car. You're the one lucky person coming out of that match. So I'm very pleased about that.
01:00So sign up for WrestleLeague and compete against us in predictions warfare. Right. We have,
01:04as it currently stands, a 10 match card, which is pretty moderate for AEW standards. One
01:10of these matches, I think is going to be announced on rampage. Sure. Uh, I think it's announced.
01:15I haven't looked at the spoilers for rampage, but it certainly wasn't announced on dynamite.
01:19So I'm going to assume either someone has just added this to Wikipedia to F with me.
01:24Um, that referee was trying to, that Wikipedia was trying to F on me or, uh, it's getting
01:30added on rampage, but we'll get to it when we get to it. We're going to kick things off
01:33with the pre-show match, which is Atlantis junior defending the ROH World Television
01:38Championship against Brian Cage. I wonder if this was something that was set
01:43up on ring of honor or if this was just, nah, we got a couple of guys. Here you go. Based
01:49on, uh, Kate and SP threes reaction to it, who I believe are the only two people who
01:54are watching ring of honor on a regular basis. This was not something they were building
01:58to on, on ring of honor TV. Good to know. Okay. Yeah. I don't have a whole
02:02lot of thoughts about this match. I would be surprised if it was bad. Oh yeah. You know,
02:08I'm not expecting it to tear the house down either. Should be about your average pre-show
02:14quality match. Six minute match. If Atlantis junior loses the title here, I'll be a bit
02:20surprised, but also I will move on with my life. With that being said, Atlantis junior
02:25is my pick. Yeah. Atlantis junior is my pick as well.
02:28We're going to stick with ring of honor as we move into Mark Briscoe defending the ring
02:32of honor championship against Chris Jericho with a match we all needed to see. Yeah. Like
02:39I am, I'm super not into this. I'm super not into like Jericho feuding with the conglomeration
02:45is one thing. Like I don't mind that so much because it does mean that he's no longer feuding
02:50with hook and it also means he's going to be feuding with Samoa Joe when he comes back,
02:55but I don't think I need Jericho going for the ring of honor world championship.
03:00Everybody likes to point to Jericho's ring of honor title. It's like, see, he was good
03:05two years ago and yeah, he had really good TV matches with Tomohiro Ishii and bandido
03:11and people like that. Yeah. Claudio, I don't need to see it in 2024 and that's why I'm
03:17worried that we're about to see it. So I was also about to say the same thing of like,
03:22I think we're going to, it's a Mark Briscoe retention until I said, Oh, he's not feeding
03:27with Samoa Joe when Samoa Joe gets back. The second I said that, I was like, Oh no, he
03:32is and they can feud over the world, the world title because that used to be Samoa Joe's
03:38belt once upon a time. I'd rather they didn't. I'd rather that the focus of, you know, listen,
03:46if you want to give the ring of honor world championship to Chris Jericho and cast him
03:50off to ROH land where we don't have to watch him on dynamite, that's one thing, but that's
03:54not what's going to happen. You know, they're going to need to try and sell tickets and
03:58pay-per-views for final battle. And if their plan is just to have Chris Jericho be at the
04:03front and center of it, that doesn't sell me the ticket. It does make me worry that
04:08that could be the mindset. And I don't think it was necessarily a bad idea two years ago,
04:14but we are here in 2024. I'm going to will a Mark Briscoe retention into existence. I'm
04:20going to go Mark Briscoe because if you say it often enough, the universe will listen.
04:25I was so going to say Mark Briscoe and I walked in here, but I've now convinced myself it's
04:30final battle. Cause like, well, Joe's going to come back and feud with Jericho. Jericho
04:35wrote him off TV. Like if Joe doesn't come back and have a match with Jericho or a feud
04:39with Jericho, then that angle was done for nothing. It was just to write him off TV for
04:42a bit. I'm okay with that. There's part of me that is, but also there's part of me that's
04:46like, I'm sick of like cut, like knocked off threads or like canceled threads of story
04:51in AEW. Jack is going to come back at some point.
04:55They set that angle up. It's just that Jade left. Um, so I'm going to go to Chris Jericho
05:00to win. Uh, we have a match of the Washingtons as Darby Allen takes on Brody King.
05:08This is one of the matches I'm like most anticipating on the, on the show, just in terms of probably
05:15has the highest, uh, show stealing ceiling here to coin a phrase. I love these two together.
05:23Anytime you watch the Washington boys wrestle one another, regardless of if it's Danielson
05:29swerve Brody Darby, they all work together. Nick Wayne, throw him in there. All these
05:35different combinations yield very, very good results. And I expect nothing different from
05:40this. Who's going to win though, is a different question, you know, because you would kind
05:45of think that like, this was just going to be an open challenge.
05:49We'd probably have Darby win that match. You know, he just lost his title shot and
05:55a move that kind of felt a little out of nowhere, like a change of plans. So maybe you want
05:59to heat them back up and give them that next step, you know, but at the same time, maybe
06:05you want to do a downward spiral type thing that he's really in his own head, that this
06:09is what he needs to be. And I thought they had a very good promo back and forth on dynamite
06:14that actually led me to believe that Brody King has a better chance of winning this match
06:18than I had thought he had previously. I'm probably still going to go with Darby Allen,
06:23you know, because hometown favorite type thing, home state favorite, I should say. But this
06:28would be one that I could see going either way.
06:31I'm actually tempted to go Brody King on this one for that very reason of like, they would
06:37really hammering home this idea that Darby Allen is the face of the company. And Brody
06:42King's point on that, which I thought was an excellent promo segment, was you take it
06:49for granted. You take for granted this honor that you've been bestowed upon of being the
06:52face of the company. So I think you kind of, I want to kind of go down that road and see
06:55where it takes us. And I think you can get to that by having a Darby loss here. You know,
07:00he started off this year, you know, the start of the summer, he was getting a TNT shot against
07:05Jack Perry. He was getting a world title shot against Danielson. He then lost that TNT shot
07:10against Jack Perry. He lost his shot against Danielson. And now he's going to lose, you know,
07:15this idea of being the face of the company's king. I'm going to go Brody King here.
07:19It wouldn't be one that I'd be disappointed in seeing at all, because I love Brody King. I want
07:23to see him kind of get a bit of a push whenever possible. And I think challenging Darby Allen's
07:29stance on where he is as a character is potentially even more interesting than seeing him just ascend
07:34back to where he was a month and a month and a half ago.
07:37This might be my controversial statement of the show. So, you know, strap yourselves in,
07:42folks. I don't think that Triple H's five match cards are the worst thing in the world.
07:46I think you're out of your mind.
07:50Also, like, you know, if I can be further controversial, I sometimes think that Tony's
07:55ten cards matches are a bit too much. I do think there is a happy medium within there of like,
07:59seven matches.
08:00Yes. All wrestling pay-per-views at this stage should be seven matches,
08:05in and out in two hours and 45 minutes.
08:08My point being, I feel like this is one of those matches that you can look at this show and be
08:12like, that should be a TV main event. And in a period of time where AEW aren't announcing
08:16things ahead of time, these are some of the matches I'm like, that could have been a TV
08:20main event. And I'm thinking of our next one here, Jack Perry defending against Katsuyori
08:23Shibata for the TNT Championship. That's a TV main event.
08:26I don't even know if it would be a TV main event.
08:29It's only a TV match.
08:30It's a TV match, I think. Yeah.
08:32This has strong TV match energy.
08:34A match you can announce ahead of time and not really doesn't need to be on pay-per-view.
08:39Yeah.
08:39Like, it's great that Jack's getting it in. It's great that Shibata's getting a pay-per-view match
08:43and, you know, this and the other, but I feel like these are the sort of matches you should
08:46be doing on Dynamite and Collision.
08:48Well, this is it. We haven't really brought it up in the context of this prediction show. I'm
08:53sure we'll have touched on it on the podcast review, which we haven't recorded yet. This
08:58is a pretty weak card for AEW pay-per-view standpoints. I think they're absolutely going
09:05to get bailed out by just having strong pay-per-view quality matches.
09:09It'll be a good show.
09:11They're all good shows. Even the ones like World's End last year,
09:14you got a couple of amazing matches on that show anyway.
09:18But this is probably the weakest card going into an AEW pay-per-view since World's End.
09:24I'd say so.
09:25And that's a little disappointing. I do think it kind of comes as a result of having so many
09:29of these major shows, one after another, after another, after another. Like, I think they said
09:33that All In was like 44 days ago or something like that, and you've had All In, All Out,
09:40Grand Slam, and now Wrestle Dream coming this weekend. That's way too much in such a short
09:45period of time.
09:46Fifth anniversary.
09:47Fifth anniversary. Dynamite as well, throw it in there. So, it's led to a lot of these
09:52matches just kind of being a little ho-hum heading into this card. And like you said,
09:57I'm really hoping that Katsuri Shibata and Jack Perry have a really strong match and justify it
10:03being on pay-per-view. Because yeah, otherwise, I think this does kind of land in that TV
10:08match kind of realm where I think it would have been fine if you'd announced this for the Dynamite
10:14after Wrestle Dream. They used to do that. They would announce half the card for the show
10:19afterwards like a week ahead of time.
10:22And you would get the fallout from the pay-per-view the week after that,
10:24because things were already announced.
10:26Like, Bad Blood, like, this past weekend, they'd announced, you know, Gunther and Sami Zayn for
10:31the Raw, as well as Jey Uso versus Xavier Woods for the IC title, and Sheamus and Pete Dunne.
10:39So you kind of already had, like, matches that would have been pay-per-view matches,
10:43but they were on Raw the following night, or two nights later. So, I'm looking at things
10:47like Jack Perry and Darby and Brodie King. Those would have been those sort of matches
10:51you could have announced for the Dynamite after the pay-per-view.
10:54Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree. I'm not as bent out of shape about Darby and Brodie King.
10:58I understand the viewpoint on it, but it's a couple Washington boys having a match on pay-per-view.
11:03I kind of understand that a bit more.
11:05You could do it on the Dynamite before then, because that was in Washington.
11:07It certainly was, but, you know.
11:10Yeah, but I take your point. I'm going with Jack Perry to retain.
11:14Yeah, I think this is an easy Jack Perry retention. I don't think we're seeing him
11:17lose that title until, like, the right challenger comes along, and I don't think Shibata is that
11:23right now.
11:23I don't think it is either, but I think Danny Garcia could be.
11:26Definitely could be.
11:27This is a match that should be on the pay-per-view, and I'm glad that it is,
11:30and it's probably my most anticipated match. It's Will Ospreay versus Ricochet versus Takeshita
11:35in a three-way for the International Championship.
11:38I'm very excited about this.
11:39So excited for this. I thought this was, like, the best go-home angle
11:43on Dynamite this week. It showed that I didn't feel I had a lot of go-home angles.
11:47This had a really strong go-home angle, and I thought the build for this has been really good.
11:52I'm super excited for this.
11:54This has been, I think, the storyline that's currently running, you know, that is, you know,
12:00you could say Swerve and Hangman or whatever, but we're on a bit of a hiatus from that storyline.
12:04While it's still in the background, we're on a bit of a hiatus.
12:07This is the best active storyline in AEW, in my opinion.
12:11Agreed.
12:11It's the one I'm most invested in, and it's done very simply, you know?
12:15None of this is, like, groundbreaking stuff, but it's all effective storytelling
12:19with great matches being built to in the middle of all of them.
12:23It helps when Will Ospreay is at the center of all of this,
12:26because he's probably the best Bell to Bell wrestler in the world right now,
12:30and having Will Ospreay and Ricochet on pay-per-view would be cool.
12:34Throw in Kanosuke Takeshita not only gives you the taste of the Will Ospreay-Ricochet match
12:39that I'm sure will be a pay-per-view match at some point down the line,
12:42but it also gives us a bit of a taste of the Will Ospreay-Kanosuke Takeshita rematch
12:47that I was kind of expecting to get around this time of year,
12:51and we might see a title change here.
12:53I don't know.
12:54This is one where I could see it going to either Will or Takeshita,
12:58and it's all done, again, effectively, simply, and with great matches.
13:02This gets a big thumbs up from me.
13:04I don't know where it's gonna go, though.
13:06It's one of those things, if Will and Ric get in their own way,
13:09and then Takeshita can take advantage of that.
13:11The Fightful Slate report around him was that he was headed for a big push,
13:15and I could see this being the time that they belt him up, and...
13:21My only thing that I think-
13:22I'm gonna go with the Will Ospreay retention here,
13:25because I still think the direction is him in the C2,
13:29and the finals of the C2 being him and Okada.
13:33I think we did too much setup for that to not pay that off,
13:36and just to kind of, like, swerve us in a different direction
13:38and get out of this one, which, you know, they could do.
13:40I still think that's the long-term goal, though.
13:42So I'm going with a Will retention here,
13:44and Takeshita is getting his big push when we come to December,
13:48when I think he's gonna beat Okada.
13:51And he wins the C2.
13:53If you had asked me a month ago, I would be like,
13:56Bang on, 100%, no doubt.
13:59Takeshita and Okada is your C2 final at World's End for the title.
14:04Takeshita wins it.
14:05It's his first big title win.
14:06All that.
14:07I'm thinking-
14:07Because you could still do that,
14:11and I'm kind of thinking my way out of the point I'm about to make,
14:15as I'm about to make it,
14:16but I'm gonna say it anyway,
14:17because I'm looking at how they have booked over the last few months,
14:22and maybe you don't want to do another Osprey, Hot Potatoes, The Belt thing,
14:28because you just did that with MJF,
14:30but I could see a world in which you have Takeshita wins The Belt in this match,
14:38and pins Ricochet, for example,
14:40and then they do the straight singles rematch of Osprey versus Takeshita at full gear,
14:45and Osprey wins The Belt back off Takeshita,
14:48to then have Takeshita go into the C2,
14:51having just had a title run,
14:52culminate that with winning the whole thing, or whatever.
14:55That might be a little too complicated,
14:57and you don't want to have Osprey lose The Belt and win it back,
15:00again, so close after all-in and everything,
15:04but also, I've seen them do crazier things.
15:06Look at the TNT picture from a few years ago.
15:09I know I'm not pointing to an example of great success by any means,
15:12but I'm looking at it,
15:14and I want the big singles matches coming out of this,
15:17and I'm trying to then figure out what the best way to get to those singles matches is going to be,
15:23and I think the best way of doing it would probably be to have Takeshita win the title here,
15:29and do the rematch immediately after on the next pay-per-view of Will and Takeshita.
15:34You could still do that,
15:35and have Osprey and Takeshita go into it with Will still being champion and retaining here,
15:41but I don't know.
15:42I think you need to give Takeshita a win in one of these,
15:46because, again, big push coming, supposedly,
15:49and if you wait till December,
15:51there's every chance that a lot of the heat could come off of this,
15:55but if you give him a win here,
15:58nice little title reign,
15:59win it, lose it back,
16:00and then give him another big win,
16:02I think you can lose to Will Osprey and still come away okay.
16:06Yeah, you wouldn't lose much.
16:07Winning the title here means you don't have to beat Osprey clean in order to get the title,
16:12so I've talked myself back into it.
16:15I'm going to Konosuke Takeshita to win here.
16:17Very nice.
16:18I think we're probably going to be on the same page for this one, though.
16:20It is for the AEW World Tag Team Championships.
16:23It is the Young Bucks against Private Party.
16:25Well, this could be potentially interesting,
16:27because I saw this,
16:29and I would not be surprised at all if Private Party wins the tag titles here.
16:34We talked about this last week, right,
16:36when they tried to lay out an open challenge,
16:38and the Bucks were going to accept,
16:39and then they didn't accept because they've got limited days,
16:41and, you know, that sort of heel shtick,
16:43and you said there was like,
16:44I think it's just about Private Party.
16:46You know, fifth anniversary show,
16:48that wouldn't be the maddest thing in the world,
16:50actually be a pretty wild thing to have done for the fifth anniversary show.
16:53I just feel like they haven't heated up Private Party enough.
16:56In that moment, I could totally see the argument for it.
16:59On pay-per-view, I think the Bucks retain.
17:02I'm going with the Young Bucks retention.
17:03Well, this is it,
17:04and we're in this kind of weird middle ground of a lot of AEW booking things,
17:10because now we're past the all-in bit,
17:13where you need your big marquee team to be the champs going into the show,
17:18and a big match on the card, and all of that.
17:20And to me, if you just have the Young Bucks beat Private Party here,
17:25I think that's Private Party done again for a little while,
17:30which is not the most, like, impossible thing.
17:34We've kind of seen that a lot of the time
17:36when it comes to how AEW handles people who get a little bit hot and all that.
17:41I don't know how you keep them hot and an incredible contender
17:46without giving them the tag titles here.
17:50And I totally agree that they haven't been, like, heated up.
17:52I would have had them probably start winning matches
17:54in the middle of the summer if this was the direction.
17:57I don't think they've won any matches.
17:59I mean, they beat Bear Country, or whatever they're called, you know?
18:04But that's it.
18:05So I would like to see this be the progress
18:11that the Blackpool Combat Club are talking about.
18:14I think you could tell an interesting story
18:17related to what goes on in the main event and everything
18:21if Private Party show a real, like, rugged, tough-as-nails side of themselves
18:26and end up pulling out a great match here.
18:29Because that's the other part of this.
18:31This, I could think, this very possibly could have the same effect
18:36that that acclaimed Swerve in Our Glory match had at All Out two years ago.
18:41Where going into that match, I don't think anybody was taking the acclaimed.
18:44But by the time the match was over, people were like,
18:46they should have called in all the unaudible and had them win the titles.
18:49Because it was this great match, coming out party for the acclaimed,
18:53star-making performance, all of that.
18:55If they just go out there and the Young Bucks are determined
18:57to give these guys the best match they've ever had,
19:00five-star tag match, the whole deal,
19:02I could see by the end of that match,
19:05it doesn't matter what's happened before, you do this.
19:07And if the crowd is there for it, again, we won't know that till it happens.
19:12But I think there's a world in which this could work out
19:15and the Private Party end up winning the tag titles.
19:17LIAM I don't 100% disagree,
19:20but I'm sticking with the Young Bucks here.
19:22I'm wondering if the long-term vision for this is it's Bucks-Golden-Lovers.
19:27And that's the match that you do early next year,
19:31maybe even at Wrestle Dynasty, or maybe after Wrestle Dynasty.
19:34But I think you want to keep the belt on the Bucks until then.
19:37JUSTIN I don't disagree,
19:39and I think it's an outside chance at best that Private Party do this.
19:44But I'm going to go with Private Party for the sake of being interesting.
19:46LIAM I would be an interesting choice.
19:49The only other one I can see is them doing Omega-Perry.
19:52And Omega wins the TNT title instead.
19:54Yeah.
19:56For the AEW Women's World Championship,
19:58it is our only women's match on the show.
20:00It is Mariah May defending against Willow Nightingale.
20:02JUSTIN Boy, this is a weird one, isn't it?
20:05LIAM It is weird.
20:05JUSTIN Because I 100% believed
20:09that this was the pay-per-view match we were going to be getting
20:12at Revolution and Willow wins the title.
20:14I thought Willow was going to be the next Women's World Champion
20:18in a certain amount of time after Mariah May has had her run.
20:21But they're running this like the next pay-per-view after the all-in, all-out double feature.
20:27And it feels rushed.
20:30It probably wasn't even necessarily the match we were going to get.
20:33It could have been, but it might have been Britt Baker.
20:39Willow Nightingale is a generational babyface.
20:41LIAM Sure is.
20:42JUSTIN This is the best, most natural babyface we have
20:47this side of Sami Zayn.
20:49I want her to be the Women's Champion.
20:53And I want that to be something that is built up to you naturally.
20:57And just having it be a throwaway Women's title match on this show with nary a build-up.
21:04LIAM Yeah, they've interacted.
21:06They have set her up as a potential feud title contender.
21:09But I agree.
21:09I think if Britt Baker was not injured or not ill, this would have been Britt Baker and Mariah May.
21:15Yeah, and even the segment where Willow came out and saved the day for Yuka Sakazaki,
21:22there were like three things happening in that.
21:25And the focus was shifted to Mariah May and Mina Shirakawa again.
21:29So yes, they've interacted and everything, but not in a way that would ever make me believe
21:34that Willow Nightingale is going to win the title on Saturday.
21:37LIAM No, she had one, like the promo that she did
21:39have where she was like, I beat three former Women's Champions and on Saturday I'm going
21:44to create another former World Champion in Mariah May.
21:47I was like, you're amazing at this because I was not sold on this match because I thought
21:52you deserved a bigger opportunity than this.
21:53You deserve this match to get a much better build.
21:56But you've had two lines of dialogue and I'm like, oh, okay, well, I want you to win now
22:00because you're the best.
22:01ZACH That's it.
22:02I want nothing but success for Willow Nightingale.
22:05I just want this match to be as big as it should be.
22:08I'm going with Mariah May to retain.
22:10It's too soon, but I wish it was different.
22:12I don't know where I'm going on this next one, though.
22:14It's Hangman Page versus Jay White.
22:17I do not know where I'm going with this one.
22:19Jay's just come back.
22:20He's just turned baby face.
22:22So you're like, well, surely Jay wins then.
22:25But it's Hangman Page, right?
22:27He's on such a tear at the moment.
22:29I'm like, well, I don't want to beat Page.
22:31So I don't know which way I'm going on this one yet.
22:34LIAM This, as much as I don't like that this
22:37has worked its way into our conversations about AEW pay-per-view predictions and everything,
22:42I could see this one being one with a bit of a schmoz finish.
22:45ZACH I was going to say something similar.
22:46LIAM I don't want to say it's going to be a
22:48DQ or a countout or something like that, but this is one of those matches where I'm very
22:53happy to have two guys that are in a position now where you want to protect both of them,
22:57you know, because Hangman Page wasn't doing much of anything before the Swerve feud last
23:03year, you know.
23:04He was looped into the Elite and BCC stuff and that went on too long and, like, he wasn't
23:09a main focus of that by the end.
23:11And now he has been heated up to the point where if he loses a match, it better be for
23:17Bryan Danielson to go and have his retirement run and a big win at All In, you know.
23:23So I don't think this is that.
23:26For that reason, I think I'm going to take Hangman Page.
23:29But again, it's a decent problem to have, of having two guys that are hot and you want
23:36to make the most out of both of them, but also you don't really want to sacrifice either
23:40of those things.
23:41ZACH I'm also going Page, but I think we might
23:44get a schmoz finish here, like a double countout or something like that.
23:47Brawl to the back.
23:48LIAM That's it, you know, they brawl.
23:50Maybe it's one of those deals where, like, the match doesn't have a finish, but it's
23:53like a multi-segment thing.
23:55They fight before the match.
23:56They have like a match itself, but then that spills out, ends in a double DQ or a double
24:02countout or whatever.
24:03But then they go back to the brawl, sort of similar to the Hangman Page and Juice Robinson
24:07match from last week.
24:09Just, you know, with more chaos, perhaps, because pay-per-view.
24:12ZACH I think this is the match we're going to
24:14get announced on Rampage.
24:15It's MXM Collection versus The Acclaimed.
24:18LIAM Hell of a buy-in, that would be.
24:20ZACH Yeah, I think this is a buy-in match.
24:21LIAM I'd get shocked if it's not.
24:23ZACH It better be on the buy-in.
24:25I'll go with Mansour and Mason.
24:29LIAM Interesting.
24:31I'll go with The Acclaimed, for differing opinions, and...
24:36I don't know.
24:37I've not thought much about it.
24:39SEAN No.
24:39I don't think many people have.
24:40LIAM No.
24:41SEAN But they have been feuding for a while now,
24:42you know, they had the run-in with the Tag Team Turmoil thing, the Tag Team Gauntlet
24:45thing, so, you know, they've been slightly building this for a while, it's just been
24:48on Rampage.
24:49LIAM Yeah.
24:49SEAN In Collision.
24:50You know, it's weird, because I want nothing but the world for Anthony Bowens, but I think
24:56this is a perfect place for The Acclaimed to be.
25:00ZACH Yeah, I'd really like to see Bowens get a run in the C2.
25:03SEAN I would love that!
25:04ZACH Yeah.
25:05SEAN That's the dream right there!
25:07I had a Twitch stream recently where all we talked about was all the amazing wrestlers
25:10we'd like to see in the C2, and Anthony Bowens was, like, right at the top of the list.
25:14And our main event for the AEW World Championship is Bryan Danielson versus Jon Moxley.
25:22Previously to Dynamite, I was like, I think this is time.
25:25Like, I've got two mindsets.
25:27Number one, Danielson's been working us this whole time, and he's holding that belt until
25:30All In next year, and I love him for that.
25:32And my other one was, like, I think maybe Moxley's gonna win the belt, because it feels
25:36like this is the hot angle they're running at the moment, and putting the world title
25:39in feels like the next logical step for that really hot angle that they're doing.
25:42But Dynamite this week, they were trying to make such a big deal out of this, possibly
25:46being Bryan Danielson's last Dynamite, that I didn't believe that it was.
25:51So I think that Danielson's retaining now.
25:53ZACH I've worked myself in a circle over this,
25:56over and over again, because just like you, like, there are all the reasons why this could
26:01and should be the end, you know?
26:04This was probably around when it was gonna happen originally, you know?
26:08Their ideas of Darby winning the world title and ending Danielson's career, you know?
26:14The last year, in my mind, was set to culminate at WrestleDream in Washington, you know?
26:21So all things would sort of point to that being the right night, but also, on the other
26:28hand, it still feels too soon, because I don't want this ride to be over, and that's the
26:32feeling I'm meant to have.
26:33I don't want to see Bryan Danielson right off into the sunset.
26:36I want him to have a never-ending title reign that's awesome and going on forever, and I
26:42kind of worked myself back over to, like, ah, well, it's too soon, he's not gonna lose
26:47this title.
26:48But then, they had the match on Dynamite, and he came out to the final countdown on
26:54a Dynamite tag-mate event, and I went, oh no, what if this is the end?
27:00What if this is why we're getting this?
27:02Oh god, and I got really in my head, it's like, am I watching the second-last match
27:07in the full-time career of Bryan Danielson?
27:09And we might.
27:11I don't know what the direction of this Moxley-led force is going to be.
27:17This show could end with some wacky nonsense where Shane McMahon pops up as the Howard
27:24Power, or it could not.
27:27It could just be Bryan Danielson retains the title in his home state, and that's a big,
27:32awesome go-home deal, everybody gets to be happy.
27:35I don't know which one it is.
27:38But also, he won in that match, so I went, well, clearly he's losing on the pay-per-view,
27:42because I still can't get out of that mindset from 15 years ago.
27:46ALICE I guess.
27:47I also feel like Danielson should be, like, surely he should get the win here, because
27:51they tried to murder him at the last pay-per-view?
27:53SEAN I would think, but maybe that's just how
27:55you get the big heel act that's gonna be, the top heel act, for now and the future,
28:01you know, probably for the next year.
28:03ALICE I don't know, Luke, this one's really hard!
28:06LUKE I'm going with my heart on this one,
28:08and I'm going with a Danielson retention.
28:10SEAN I am also gonna go with a Danielson retention
28:13with my heart over my head, because my head is 100% telling me at this point
28:18that Moxley's winning the title again.
28:19LUKE Should be Mox, yeah.
28:21SEAN But I don't want the ride to be over.
28:24I'm not ready to get off.
28:25ALICE Well, what do you think is gonna happen?
28:27Let us know in the comments down below.
28:29We'll be back this Sunday here on the WrestleTalk Channel,
28:32reviewing WrestleDream at the moment, well, I'll try that again, it'll be myself
28:36and Dan Layton making his return to the WrestleTalk Podcast,
28:39we're gonna give our thoughts on WrestleDream in full.
28:42We'll be back tomorrow with the WrestleTalk News,
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28:48Until then, I've been Luke Owen, that has been Tempest, Jam That Jam.
28:59Thanks for watching.