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00:00You cannot run the politics of violence and aggression at the same time.
00:09Okay.
00:10You cannot run the politics of violence and aggression at the same time.
00:14We have seen this in your party.
00:16You used to say, give respect to the vote.
00:19Then you left violence and came to aggression.
00:21Look, politics is a victim of aggression.
00:26It happens all over the world.
00:28It has happened in history as well.
00:30It has happened in your party as well.
00:32Look, we get an opportunity.
00:35If the politician does not avail that opportunity, then ultimately…
00:40But you have held a moral high ground that give respect to the vote.
00:44We have held a moral high ground.
00:46Then you should sit with them.
00:48This is not aggression, this is hypocrisy.
00:50No, no. I think that the words you have used are various.
01:04It is not like that.
01:05We have not abandoned our principles.
01:09You have put them on the back burner.
01:11I will tell you a comparison.
01:14Look at Imran Khan's entire career.
01:19All the pronouncements he has made in politics,
01:23he has backed out all those pronouncements.
01:28Tell me one thing on which he has stood.
01:31Can we say these things here as well?
01:33No, no. I think that all the sacrifices that the environment has made…
01:37Sir, it was 1997.
01:39He had a problem. He made a deal and left.
01:41Then it was 2018.
01:43He left in 2019.
01:45Then he came and sat with everyone and took power.
01:49Then there is no difference between him and Imran.
01:51If I understand your logic…
01:52No, no. Look at what Imran Khan has done.
01:57All the things that he has said in his politics,
02:02he has negated all those things.
02:04Don't tell me one thing.
02:06The small things that you are talking about,
02:08the way politicians back and forth,
02:11I agree with you.
02:13I totally agree with him.
02:14All the politicians do.
02:16But the moral high ground that this person has…
02:20I will give you an example.
02:22You are his eyewitness.
02:23He brought $7 million to Pakistan.
02:30You made a big issue out of it.
02:32No, I said it in the program with you.
02:34$7 million.
02:35This is 16 years old.
02:38He has filed a case against me.
02:40I told you before filing a case.
02:42Why did I tell you?
02:43You refused.
02:44He said, no, I want to tell you on my own.
02:47It's been 16 years.
02:49Why doesn't he let me finish the case?
02:53He takes the data.
02:55He rates it here and there.
02:57He doesn't confront me.
02:59If he confronts me,
03:00I will say he re-routed $7 million,
03:04he didn't let Pakistan come,
03:06the money from Chanda,
03:07the money from the cancer hospital,
03:09$3.5 million,
03:11the balance sheet from Ferguson.
03:14That's not an issue.
03:16It is an issue.
03:17It is a reflection on the man.
03:19But tell me one thing.
03:20You talked about moral high ground.
03:23That's why I am talking about this issue.
03:25When there was 13% interest on T-bills in Pakistan,
03:30he invested $2.5% in the climate bond.
03:34Point taken.
03:37$7 million in charity.
03:40$7 million in charity.
03:42This man was brought in by Pakistan.
03:44After 8 years, he stands in the assembly and says,
03:47I brought him.
03:48What was the exchange rate at that time?
03:50What was the interest rate at that time?
03:52Who will pay the interest for 8 years?
03:54Who will pay the cost of funds?