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00:00Hello! Thank you very much! Hello! Good evening, everybody! Yes, you are very welcome to the show!
00:13Yeah, like pumpkin spice latte, we're back for the autumn. And we've got a good'un for you.
00:18Yes, later, we'll have music right over there from Jack Savaretti and Miles Kane.
00:23Yeah, they'll be performing a track from Jack's latest album.
00:27But first, on my sofa tonight, since his BAFTA-winning role as Morris Moss in The IT Crowd,
00:33this actor, writer and director has continued to stare at the camera with his arms folded
00:37in the likes of Travelman, The Crystal Maze and as presenter of The BAFTAs.
00:42He's sober as stuff. His latest book, The Unfinished Harold Hughes,
00:46has been described as Nabokov meets Spinal Tap.
00:49So it's a very funny, like its author, Richard Ayoade!
00:54There he is! Hello, sir. Nice to see you. Have a seat, too.
01:03This Irish superstar has played opposite so many acting greats.
01:07Tom Cruise, Al Pacino, Nicole Kidman and my personal favourite, Jenny the donkey.
01:12That was in the Banshees of Ina Sharon, which last year won him a richly deserved first Oscar nomination.
01:19Now he's unrecognisable and brilliant as supervillain-turned-crime boss The Penguin.
01:26Please welcome the great Colin Farrell!
01:41She burst onto the scene as part of the 80s Hollywood Brat Pack,
01:45going on to become one of the biggest film stars in the world
01:48in hits like Indecent Proposal, A Few Good Men, G.I. Jane and the iconic Ghost.
01:54Now she is giving an extraordinary performance as Elizabeth Sparkle
01:58in the body horror comedy The Substance, which critics are saying is...
02:03Ooh, I think they like it.
02:05It's a pleasure to welcome for the first time, Demi Moore!
02:16It's so nice to see you.
02:18Meet the boys.
02:23And she's a pop superstar, an actor, a fashion icon,
02:28who's won 13 Grammys, two Golden Globes, a BAFTA and an Oscar
02:32for Best Original Song in A Star Is Born.
02:35Now she's striking up a bad romance as Harley Quinn in Joker, Folly Adore.
02:41It is a warm welcome back to the one and only Lady Gaga!
03:04They're pleased. Sometimes there's buyer's remorse.
03:07But not tonight. They're happy.
03:09So it's a welcome back to Richard, Colin and Lady Gaga,
03:12but a first-time welcome to Demi Moore.
03:14Thank you. So happy to be here. I feel like I've finally made it.
03:17Yeah, right, this is it.
03:20Now, you have been travelling all over the world promoting The Substance,
03:24but you haven't been alone. You've been upstaged at every turn.
03:29Yes, I have a significant other.
03:31Yes. I think we've got... A special significant other.
03:33We've got a picture. There.
03:35This is... What's... Is it P. Love?
03:37Wait till you meet it.
03:39It's P. Love, the little mouse.
03:41P. Love, the little mouse. Yes.
03:43And is it a male mouse or a female mouse?
03:45It's a female. But here's the thing, so...
03:47I want a selfie with it.
03:49Oh, and it is photogenic. P. Love is very photogenic.
03:52Because it's done a cover shoot.
03:54Yes. I knew that she had really moved into a whole new category
03:57when my publicist got a call just for P. Love to be on the cover of Dogue.
04:02Dogue, you know... Is there really a Dogue?
04:05For real. It's Vogue for Dogs. There it is.
04:07I got that part.
04:11That's amazing. That's amazing.
04:14Have you got that framed in your house? You must.
04:16Not yet, but I plan to.
04:18And that's the size the dog actually is.
04:20Honestly, why did you leave her out in the snow?
04:26P. Love isn't on set yet.
04:28No, but she is here.
04:30Shall I?
04:32We ought to.
04:36Oh, jeez.
04:38Did we mic the dog to hear her heartbeat?
04:41Oh, my, oh, my, oh, my, oh, my!
04:44Hi, hi.
04:46Hi, hi, hi.
04:48Oh, you're so good.
04:50Oh, she's so weird.
04:52This is...
04:54Do you have treats in your pocket?
04:56No, no. She's just an equal opportunity receiver.
04:59Now, does P. Love understand this is television,
05:02so she ought to piss?
05:05That would go viral for us.
05:07I don't want to touch P. Love.
05:09I had a feel backstage.
05:11Yes, you had a feel backstage.
05:13Oh, I'm afraid I'm going to hurt her.
05:15I know. She's so fragile.
05:17Oh, my God, she's so little.
05:19She's a stealer. She's a scene stealer.
05:21The tongue, the tongue is amazing.
05:25And right here.
05:27How old is P. Love?
05:29She's so cute.
05:31P. Love will be four in November.
05:34So, she had one flaw,
05:36which is she didn't have a full set of teeth
05:38and she had to lose some, hence why the tongue does not stay in.
05:41Oh, no way.
05:43Right, OK.
05:45Oh, my God. Well, if I ever get one,
05:47I'm having the teeth pulled straight away.
05:49She's so cute.
05:51Shall we let P. Love relax? Yes, I don't want her to steal everything.
05:54So, here we go. I'll take her back here.
05:56There she goes. P. Love, everybody.
05:59APPLAUSE
06:03I love that I have this level of couch, but a very small dog.
06:07Shit's all over everything.
06:10Now, Rich and I, you were here tonight as an author.
06:13Thank you. But you are also a director.
06:15A director of films.
06:17Have you worked with any of the people on the sofa?
06:20I have not. I have sent Colin a script.
06:23Which I had told you I was yet to...
06:26No, the good thing is, because we were both on this,
06:29you had to read it. Totally.
06:31Is it a no yet? It's the gospel.
06:33You had to read it, otherwise it could have been awkward.
06:36That's the gospel. I'm pretty handy. I said to him...
06:39It could have ended in some frisky cuffs. Yes, I said to him.
06:42It would have been bad. The Queensbury rules, of course.
06:45He's agreed to do it for no money, which is very nice.
06:48APPLAUSE
06:50That's Colin. That is Colin.
06:52Any time you want, I'm there. I will not take a penny.
06:56This is Colin's words, not mine.
06:59All right, we're going to start with Lady Gaga's new movie,
07:02Joker, folly adieu! I know!
07:05It opens in cinemas on the 4th of October.
07:08And this is the sequel to Joker, starring Joaquin Phoenix.
07:12And you play Harley Quinn.
07:14But what version of Harley Quinn is this?
07:17What can you tell us about her?
07:19So, I play Lee Quinzel. That's my version of Harley Quinn.
07:22And, you know, this movie, this story,
07:26really centres around Arthur Fleck.
07:28If you saw the first film, you know him.
07:30In the first film, Todd really slowed down
07:32to take a look at Arthur Fleck's life,
07:34somebody that maybe would get pushed aside
07:36or passed by on the street.
07:38And you really got to see who he was and what made him Joker.
07:41So, in this film, he meets Lee, my character,
07:44and they fall in love.
07:46But she's, like, very different than the Harley Quinn
07:49that everybody has known before.
07:51I tried to root her in the reality of this film
07:54and create Arthur's match.
07:56Who would be the person that he would love
07:58if he stopped for a moment to talk to her?
08:01What would be the storm inside of her
08:04that would make her catch his eye?
08:06So, that's my Lee.
08:08She's got a little bit of a hurricane inside her,
08:11like the ground is shaking all the time
08:13or a bomb might go off in her, you know?
08:15Liz, we've got a clip.
08:17This is you as Harley visiting the Joker,
08:19played by Joaquin Phoenix, in the asylum.
08:22This is going to be good for us.
08:24Now I can be at your trial every day.
08:26I can see you every day until you get out.
08:30And then what?
08:32We're going to build a mountain.
08:36You've heard me talk.
08:38I want to see the real you.
08:50DOOR OPENS
09:03It's just us now.
09:06CHEERING
09:14I love it. I love it.
09:21Here's the thing, that scene where you're putting the mask
09:24on the Joker, and I heard you talking about this,
09:26that in ways you really relate to that idea of wearing a mask
09:30and how that can help you in your life.
09:32Well, I don't know if it helped me.
09:35You know, yeah, I've always kind of had a relationship
09:38with dual identities through my music
09:41and creating characters on stage,
09:43which was maybe unconventional to some people.
09:46You know, playing an actor in a film makes a lot of sense,
09:48but everybody wants to kind of see you be yourself on stage,
09:51and I am myself on stage.
09:53I'm just also something else.
09:55And so I was really interested in making this film
09:58because Arthur is this, like, kind of incredibly unique person
10:02who has this, like, affliction that he suffers with,
10:06and the way that people treat him where he lives, in Gotham,
10:11Joker is kind of like a symptom of his conditions.
10:14And I just thought that that was a really beautiful way
10:17to tell the story of Joker, and I thought it was also beautiful
10:20for a love story, who would be, like, the complex woman
10:23that would love him completely,
10:26who would, to me, love Joker and love Arthur too.
10:29And Lady Gaga, as one would hope, music in Folly Adair,
10:33but am I right in thinking that when this goes out on Friday night,
10:36by the time that happens,
10:38there will be a new Lady Gaga record in the world?
10:41Yeah, so I was really inspired by my character, Lee,
10:44and all the music in the movie,
10:46so I decided to make my own album called Harlequin,
10:49inspired by her,
10:51and it's all original productions that I did
10:55to basically, like, define her without defining her at all.
11:00There's a lot of jazz influence,
11:03and I take you through, like,
11:05so many different genres on the record.
11:07To me, Harley, like, cannot be pinned down.
11:09She's a woman that can't be defined,
11:11so I was sort of saying, you know,
11:13I'll be jazz when I want to be jazz,
11:15and I'll be funk when I want to be funk,
11:17and then I'll be soul, and then I'll be blues,
11:19and then I'll be church, and it's...
11:21I'll be whatever I want to be whenever I want to be it,
11:23cos I think women, you know, we want to feel that way sometimes.
11:26CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
11:28And the truth is, we aren't any one thing.
11:31We're a lot of things.
11:33Yes, and we can be all those things at the same time.
11:36The album is called Harlequin,
11:38and I think we've got the cover art there.
11:41CHEERING
11:43But also, I was lucky enough to hear the album.
11:45It is so... Cos it's not the soundtrack.
11:48It's such a joyful album.
11:51Thank you. She's super happy.
11:54I mean, over the moon.
11:56But it is a really... It's a joyous thing,
11:58to hear you sing these standards.
12:00I think it's a great record for, like,
12:02if you're having dinner with your friends
12:05and one of your crazy holiday parties.
12:07It's meant to be music to have fun to.
12:10But, yeah, it's not the soundtrack.
12:12It's a companion piece to the movie.
12:14And now, talking of singing, we saw you at the Paris Olympics.
12:18Yes, that was me. Yeah, that was you.
12:20CHEERING
12:23I mean, you know, as a superstar, do you go,
12:26like, really, in the rain, I'm doing this?
12:28Cos it was properly raining.
12:30It was properly raining, but the most crazy thing
12:33was that they insisted that the staircase be carpeted
12:36for the performance, and it was raining,
12:38so it was wet carpet in my underwear.
12:41So, you know, if anyone wants to perform on TV
12:44in their underwear on a wet carpet, call me.
12:48OK.
12:50But now, it was the Paris Olympics, but there was an extra ring.
12:55Oh! Oh, I see what you did, I see what you did.
12:58That was good. No, cos you got engaged. I did.
13:01Did you get engaged at the Olympics?
13:03CHEERING
13:05Actually, yeah, that's true. That's last night.
13:08We got engaged, actually, on April 1st.
13:12Actually, I thought he was joking.
13:15He was not.
13:17But, yeah, it was really nice, and then we went to...
13:20We went to Paris for the Olympics,
13:22and the Prime Minister actually, like, had his, like, people
13:25filming us while they were, like, saying hello,
13:28and they caught me saying,
13:29oh, this is my fiancée, and I was trying to keep it hidden,
13:32but then, you know, they announced it to everyone.
13:34But that was kind of fun.
13:36I like that you get the full Team USA thing
13:39by going to the Olympics. It's good.
13:41It was great. The women were awesome.
13:43CHEERING
13:44They were awesome!
13:46And very quickly, Lady Gaga, I must say, in Joker,
13:50obviously, you're marvellous, Joaquin Phoenix,
13:52but we must mention some of the other cast.
13:55A close friend of Colin's, Brendan Gleeson.
13:57Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's in it as well.
13:59I loved working with Brendan. Me too.
14:01He's so sweet. Really, really cool guy.
14:03And did you know him when this happened?
14:05Look at that!
14:07OK, you know, I was doing, like, you know, like, that sweet thing
14:10when you see someone and you go, oh, hi, you know,
14:12and then that happened.
14:16He saw you puckering up and he went, OK.
14:19His eyes are wide open. He wants to remember this moment.
14:22He knows exactly what he was doing cos his eyes, they're like that.
14:25Not to mention his right hand.
14:27Oh, yes. Perfect, it's just like pre-tango.
14:31Mind you, you found yourself in a similar clinch.
14:33Go on, then.
14:37My eyes are closed cos I'm in heaven.
14:40And that's where I got Covid.
14:42He's a...
14:44Fact.
14:46Brendan, the super spreader.
14:48Hand on the back of the head.
14:50You're going to get it, son.
14:53I want it all in there, yeah.
14:55And I was in Nando's as well.
14:59But it is a terrific cast and just a brilliant movie.
15:02Joker, Folie Aux Deux, is out on the 4th of October.
15:05Yeah. OK.
15:11All right, we're moving on to Demi Moore's extraordinary new film,
15:15The Substance.
15:17It is out now.
15:19And if you haven't seen it, it has to be seen to be believed.
15:23But I highly recommend don't see it alone.
15:26I saw it alone. I know.
15:29But, you know, you had someone... I still enjoyed it.
15:32OK, it's just good to have someone with you to witness it
15:35just so that you can go, oh, my God.
15:37It's just a bonkers film, a brilliantly bonkers film.
15:40How are you describing it to people?
15:42It's actually almost impossible to fully describe.
15:46And you don't want to give it all away.
15:48No, but the general kind of gist is, one, it's dealing with ageing.
15:52And, you know, I play a woman who is being fired from her own show,
15:57an actress who has a fitness show, because she's ageing out.
16:01And in this kind of gets, you know,
16:03sees her face being ripped down from a poster of her campaign.
16:07So everything, she's at the lowest point of her life
16:11and is offered a substance for a newer, better, younger her.
16:16But unbeknownst to her, that is not me that transforms,
16:20it's another entity that comes out of me.
16:23It's like a young clone. We share consciousness.
16:26Can you get... Where can I get it?
16:30You're the problem. I've got some in the back.
16:33I'm happy to share.
16:35So that's like the long... It's very difficult to fully describe.
16:39But it is interesting, because you kind of think,
16:41we're used to this idea of a potion that can make you young again.
16:44But you, Elizabeth Sparkle, in her 50s,
16:47exists alongside the young Elizabeth Sparkle. Yes.
16:50Played by Margaret Qualley. Yes.
16:52Did you cast her?
16:54Were you responsible for casting her as the young you?
16:56No, I think our director, Corley, was looking for a right match,
17:00but in fact not wanting us to look identical.
17:03So she chose a taller, blue-eyed version of me.
17:07Which I can say, I always wanted blue eyes.
17:09Oh, there you go! I've wanted longer legs.
17:12But, you know, what's interesting in the film,
17:14just to kind of give in more seriousness,
17:17is that, you know, that idea of the pursuit of perfection
17:21leading us down a road where we then only decay further away
17:26from being able to embrace the beauty of all that we are
17:29in the present moment. Yeah.
17:31And I suppose we ought to flag up,
17:33there is a proper full-on body horror.
17:35I mean, there is blood. Yes. Blood.
17:38There's about 30 gallons.
17:40Not exaggerating. No, no, for real.
17:42There is a lot of blood in this film.
17:44Where did they keep the blood on set?
17:46It was in a fire.
17:48LAUGHTER
17:50The obvious question. She used it with a fire hose.
17:53Really? Yes. See, aren't you glad I asked?
17:55Yes! You haven't gotten to the scene yet.
17:57You haven't gotten to the scene.
17:59But, yeah, I think it's dealing
18:01with some really interesting subject matter.
18:03But the best way I can sum it up is,
18:05it's kind of like the picture of Dorian Gray meets Death Becomes Her
18:10and a Jane Fonda workout.
18:12I mean, that is the movie. That is the movie.
18:14That sums it up.
18:15Your performance is so intense and visceral.
18:18We've got a clip here. Set it up for us.
18:21I think you're going on a date.
18:23I'm just getting ready for a regular date.
18:26LAUGHTER
18:29So this is a moment where she has, like, an offer
18:33to ultimately allow her to almost escape
18:37the self-imposed prison of her own isolation.
18:42And she's been asked out,
18:44and it's a moment of true compare and despair,
18:47where, you know, which we've all had,
18:50where you go, you're looking, let me just try to fix this.
18:53No, let me change that.
18:54And the more we try to make it better,
18:56let's make it worse.
18:58Here it is.
19:26Wow. So intense.
19:30I love both of our sequences.
19:32It's all about lipstick tonight.
19:34Oh, yeah.
19:35It's all about the lips.
19:36You must be so proud of this movie.
19:38I think I'm very...
19:40I'm really moved by the fact that it actually is...
19:43has the potential of laying a few pavers down
19:46for a cultural shift.
19:48I don't think any one thing creates that shift,
19:50but I think the way in which we look at ourselves,
19:53the way in which we hold ourselves,
19:55it's important to find the love and the value
19:58and appreciation for who we are, as we are,
20:01in whatever moment we're in,
20:03and I hope that this can kind of help move that needle.
20:06I think it's really interesting, that idea of, you know,
20:09body image and being vulnerable,
20:11it kind of goes back to that incredible, iconic moment
20:15when you were on the cover of Vanity Fair.
20:17Were you seven months, seven months pregnant?
20:19She was seven and a half months pregnant.
20:21Wow. I mean, that has become such a kind of...
20:24It was a real moment. I mean, the fuss at the time.
20:26Big, iconic moment. Yeah.
20:28Was this your idea?
20:29Well, this wasn't...
20:30Actually, we were shooting this at the end of the shoot,
20:33just for me. It wasn't for the magazine.
20:35And I said at that moment,
20:36why wouldn't it be great if they, you know,
20:39could use this for the cover?
20:41And then two weeks later, Annie Leibovitz called and said,
20:43hey, what do you think?
20:45And I was like, amazing.
20:47I mean, I didn't know it would have such an impact.
20:50And it's been so replicated.
20:52I mean, the thing is, you know,
20:54it's not like I was the first person,
20:56but it's the idea that we've lived in times
20:59where once you were that big pregnant,
21:01you weren't supposed to remind anybody
21:03that you'd ever had sex.
21:05Literally. You reminded everyone.
21:07I did. Yes.
21:09And who's in there? Is that Scout in there?
21:11That's Scout.
21:12And how old was Scout when Scout figured out,
21:14oh, I'm on the cover of Vanity Fair?
21:16Oh, they saw it right away. They loved it.
21:18I mean, the reason I did it was for them, not even for me.
21:21Yeah. It's for each of them.
21:23I did it with Annie, with all three of my children.
21:26And I heard you talking about reading the script
21:29for The Substance, and it said it reminded you
21:32of reading the script for Ghost.
21:34Yeah, because there's something about, you know,
21:37when I read The Substance, I thought,
21:39wow, this could be really amazing.
21:43Or it could be a fucking disaster.
21:45And so, of course, I had to say yes.
21:47And I feel like Ghost was very similar.
21:49It's like, OK, we're going to do a comedy,
21:51a thriller and a romance.
21:53OK. But I think when we push ourselves out of our comfort zone,
21:56when we do things that make us a little afraid,
21:58it always makes us a little better.
22:00Even if it fails.
22:01And wasn't there a moment when, like,
22:03the reviews came out for Ghost, you kind of thought,
22:05uh-oh, it's not going well?
22:07The reviews were disastrous. Yeah.
22:09For Ghost.
22:10And then people loved it, yeah.
22:12That makes no sense.
22:13They were awful. They were awful.
22:15Cos it'll survive decades, it'll keep going.
22:18Forever, though.
22:19But they were awful.
22:20And I thought, wow, I can't trust myself,
22:22cos I actually thought I saw something that was good.
22:24And I love that you are a proper collector.
22:26You've kept the pottery you made.
22:28OK, let's not go wild.
22:31My piece of pottery looks like a kindergartner.
22:34I mean, literally.
22:35My pots are pitiful, but I do...
22:37Well, he kept coming up behind you, so...
22:39I mean, you've got to...
22:41Very good.
22:43You've got to concentrate.
22:45That's crazy, hugging you.
22:46Yes, you're right.
22:47That's making it difficult.
22:48It reduces the quality of the work.
22:50That wasn't your fault.
22:52Good point, thank you.
22:53It wasn't your fault. I appreciate that.
22:55Are they on display in your house?
22:57I have them tucked away.
22:58OK.
22:59Do you always save things for movies?
23:01Like, did you keep anything from the substance?
23:03I do, I have what...
23:04When people see the film, you'll see the drug that we're given
23:07is this, you know, kind of fluorescent green-yellow substance
23:12and it says The Activator on it, and I have one of those.
23:15Fantastic. Well, listen, it's terrific.
23:17I hope people flock to the cinema to see it.
23:19The Substance, it's out in cinemas now!
23:21CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
23:24It's so cool.
23:25OK, we're moving on.
23:27Colin Farrell... Oh, sorry, you're still talking.
23:29No, no, we're still just talking amongst ourselves.
23:31Right, Colin Farrell is The Penguin.
23:33Critically acclaimed, already a huge viewing hit.
23:36The first episode is already out there,
23:38and new episodes drop on Monday on Sky and Now.
23:42Now, we first saw you as The Penguin in the movie,
23:45the Robert Pattinson movie.
23:46So, it begins, is it a week after the end of the first movie?
23:50Yes, at the end of the first film, the Batman film,
23:52the Riddler exploded the city walls that keeps the water back
23:56and the place is flooded, and it's about a week after that.
23:59Carmine Falcone has been shot, he was played by John Chichurro,
24:02and he was kind of the main criminal underlord in Gotham.
24:06So there's a power vacuum that people are struggling to fill,
24:09and Oz, who I play as The Penguin,
24:11is someone who always has felt less than
24:13and felt outside of the experience that he felt he should be living in.
24:16He's somewhat crippled, he's got a club foot,
24:19a pretty severe club foot on his right foot.
24:22A lot of tragedy in his background, which the show,
24:25because it has eight hours, is allowed to get into,
24:27and it's his rise, his ascension,
24:29to power through greed and avarice and brutality.
24:32I've watched episode one, it's just phenomenal.
24:34Have you guys seen it yet? I have. It's incredible.
24:37Yeah, it really is. I mean, the whole world is incredible.
24:40What you went through to be able to transform is incredible.
24:44I mean... It's extraordinary.
24:46The make-up team, I have to shout out to a gentleman,
24:49I use the term loosely, by the name of Mike Marino,
24:52who created... Thank you.
24:54LAUGHTER
24:55Who created the... Take it where I can.
24:57Who created the whole thing. It was Mike's...
24:59Because I know that some people have said,
25:02Why wouldn't they get an actor doing somebody out of a job?
25:07But the thing was...
25:08Do you think maybe it's because they want to know
25:10that it's somebody attractive under there?
25:12LAUGHTER
25:15I mean, I'm just saying. What are you trying to say?
25:19I guess the question, what are you trying to say?
25:21No, I honestly think it was just... Thank you.
25:24It was Mike Marino's genius as an artist,
25:27so it was kind of like the creation of the character
25:29was a collective of a load of people,
25:31people that designed the body.
25:32It was totally his imagination.
25:34Was that hard to... The make-up every day, did you ever panic?
25:38Panic, like panic attack? Yeah, exactly.
25:40No, not in make-up, just as myself.
25:42LAUGHTER
25:44But I did, like...
25:46You know the way it's hard to say it's hard,
25:48because you know what hard life actually is,
25:50and we do what we do, so...
25:52But I will say that by the end of it, I was a bit miserable.
25:55Really? Yeah, it was kind of like,
25:57even when I remember my sister being on the set
25:59and going back to the trailer and saying to Claudine,
26:01my sister, am I being a dick on the set?
26:03And she was like, no, and I said, OK, good,
26:05because I just was angry.
26:06I was just angry by the end of it,
26:08and I remember looking up Jim Carrey.
26:10Oh! Yes!
26:11I remember hearing a story that Jim Carrey struggled
26:13when he was doing... The Grinch.
26:15Life, no. When he was doing... We all do.
26:17When he was doing The Grinch, yeah.
26:19And that he struggled so hard that Ron Howard,
26:22the director of The Grinch, spent a day in the make-up,
26:24just to see what it felt like.
26:26There should have been, like, a support group
26:28for people in prosthetics. Yeah.
26:30I think he got guys who...
26:32Oh, he did. He got Navy SEALs or FBI guys.
26:35Who undergoes torture to counsel him about how to get through it.
26:40And to calm himself and how to work on his breath.
26:42So I never got to Jim Carrey's level in so many ways in life.
26:45Season two. So many ways in life.
26:47But I did struggle by the end of it, just in me own noggin,
26:49and the material was really dark as well.
26:51I'd never done anything like that.
26:53Was it as dark as Ben's shoes?
26:55Darker, cos there was love in Ben's shoes.
26:57You know, Ben's shoes is kind of love unanswered.
26:59You know, it's the pain of that.
27:01I love Ben's shoes. And even though there's the mutilation.
27:03I love that movie. Thanks a million.
27:05Oddly, I do like to meditate to that movie.
27:07To Ben's shoes? Twisted, twisted, puppy.
27:09Is that weird?
27:11I know. Do you really? I know.
27:13My man comes home and he's like, why?
27:15I'm like, what scene?
27:17I think it's actually just the tone of the film,
27:20and the scene.
27:22The scenery is beautiful.
27:25The music, Carter Burwell, yeah.
27:27In terms of watching your performance in this,
27:29I was saying to you backstage, you do forget.
27:31In the first 15 minutes, you keep going,
27:33wow, that's Colin Farrell.
27:35Then you kind of forget about it and you're just watching a drama.
27:37When we are looking at this man, is any of that you?
27:42Well, that's me needing a bowel movement and realising that it takes...
27:45You can tell by the expression.
27:47And realising it takes two hours to get out of the bodysuit.
27:50Can I ask, do they do your hands as well?
27:53My hands were the only thing that was me.
27:55It was a full bodysuit.
27:57It was three hours of make-up in the morning
27:59and about 40 minutes to take it off.
28:01So we can see your eyes.
28:02How do you go to the bathroom?
28:04Just curious.
28:06I don't eat breakfast or lunch.
28:08That's the most civilised way to answer that.
28:10No, no, literally, because...
28:11But for a piss, yeah, yeah, because I had to drink piles of water
28:13because I was sweating crazy.
28:15So I just, you know, you need to have your sat-nav to find yourself, you know.
28:19On top of it all.
28:21And a button and a pad and a flap and a...
28:25I have very similar stuff as well.
28:28You know what I'm talking about.
28:30It's just for safety.
28:33And so the eyes are you.
28:35What about the mouth, are the teeth yours?
28:37The teeth, all but one.
28:39I have a gold tooth that was just a clip-on, yeah.
28:42It was so comprehensive, the whole thing.
28:44And to look at myself in the mirror, you know, in the trailer
28:47and see that staring back at me was very powerful.
28:50So you're in all the prosthetics, you know,
28:52you're looking out of this thing.
28:54Yeah.
28:55Onto this dark world, onto this violence.
28:57That's what it felt like, looking out in a different way.
28:59Yeah.
29:00So what was that like when you went home then?
29:02It was weird, it was funny you say looking out,
29:04because I was in a sauna one night in New York,
29:06and a public bathhouse, and a...
29:09Public bathhouse?
29:10Yeah, ologist.
29:11Don't ask.
29:12Don't ask.
29:13Tell us more.
29:14It's called The Bathhouse, it's a lovely place,
29:16and I was there one night and a fella looked at me
29:19and it was after a long...
29:20I bet he did.
29:21LAUGHTER
29:22It was after a long day on The Penguin.
29:25And I looked back at him and I realised I was looking at him
29:28in the same way I felt my look during work.
29:32And I just...
29:33When you do it so long, it comes home with you,
29:35it should come home with you.
29:36If you love what you're doing, it's OK to bring your work home,
29:38you can't inflict it on those you love that you share a house with.
29:41Yeah.
29:42But it's OK for it to come home a little bit, I think.
29:44But anyway, I looked at the guy and I realised I was looking
29:47and I felt like that, and he just kind of went like that,
29:49and I don't know if he thought I wanted to fight him or...
29:52LAUGHTER
29:54I never asked, but there was something kind of very powerful
29:58about the make-up man that it did take a hold of the mood.
30:01If you gave yourself over to it, and you talk about moments of purity
30:04in the work and stuff, you give yourself over to it
30:06and the writing's good, you know, it takes over.
30:09It's lovely, your imagination comes online and that's it.
30:12Well, for people who haven't seen it, let's have a little glimpse.
30:15This is you as Oz Cobb meeting Sophia Falcone,
30:19played by Christine...
30:22Melotti. Melotti? I'm saying Melotti.
30:24That'll do. Yeah, here we go.
30:31Was that a yes or...?
30:33Sophia, please, join us.
30:35Oh, I didn't mean to interrupt.
30:41Ah, do you remember Carmine's daughter?
30:43Yeah. Sophia, I thought you were still at, uh...
30:50Arkham? Yeah.
30:53No.
30:55I've been rehabilitated.
30:58APPLAUSE
31:00It's amazing. Yeah, it's so great.
31:02It's got another accent.
31:04New York accent. It's so good.
31:07I was born in New York. You were from that part of the world.
31:10That is... You nailed it. All right, cool.
31:12You nailed it. That was uncanny.
31:14That's one hell of a sauna, I've got to say.
31:16LAUGHTER
31:18It's a good thing I didn't wear the suit in, I would have melted.
31:21And also, I love the link in the worlds,
31:23because Arkham, where Sophia's been, is where Joker and you are.
31:26Yeah, and it sounds like they exist.
31:29It's one big dysfunctional disaster.
31:31It sounds like they inhabit a similar space, the story.
31:34There's a lot of uncertainty in the lives and the psychology.
31:37I'm so excited to see your movie. I'm excited to see yours too.
31:40Yeah, big time. I'm so excited. I'm a really big fan of your work.
31:43And, I mean, everybody here. Sure, thank you.
31:46I mean, honestly. It's true.
31:49I mean it.
31:51Take it, take it. I mean it.
31:54Just to remind you all, Colin Farrell continues his journey
31:57as the Penguin on Sky and Now each Monday.
32:01That's the takeaway here. That's the takeaway.
32:04APPLAUSE
32:07There's a book. There's a book.
32:09Now, Richard Ayoade has written a book, everybody.
32:12Yes, he has.
32:16Now, now, bear with.
32:18So, this is called The Unfinished Harold Hughes.
32:21It's out on the 3rd of October.
32:23So, let's begin with who is Harold Hughes?
32:28Well, Harold Hughes is a hugely important playwright,
32:32British playwright post-war.
32:34I stumbled across his work in a bookshop
32:38and I saw that he looked very much like me,
32:40so I was hugely interested.
32:41So, this is a painting of Harold Hughes?
32:43This is a painting. He looks quite like me.
32:45He does look quite like you. He looks a lot like me.
32:47Yeah, thank you. And it's like a picture of Dorian Gray.
32:49Yes, separated at birth. It's very similar.
32:51And so the book is sort of like a mock documentary
32:55about my journey to find Harold Hughes.
32:57Harold Hughes didn't exist, I should make this clear.
33:00This is so complicated.
33:03There was a loss of tension.
33:05And so the book is really about this kind of ridiculous character
33:09who stops writing and there's a mystery as to why he stopped writing
33:13and I'm trying to find out why he stopped writing.
33:16OK, but now, so here's the thing.
33:18So, this is the journey of your documentary
33:21to solve the mystery of Harold Hughes,
33:23who has written lots of screenplays, novels,
33:27poetries, all sorts of stuff, but those books exist.
33:31Yes.
33:32So you've also written all of Harold Hughes' screenplays.
33:35That's right, yes.
33:36And you've written...
33:37This is the complete works of his plays, prose, pieces of poetry,
33:40and these are his three novellas.
33:42And there's words in there.
33:43No, no, there's words in there,
33:45with beautiful pictures of Harold Hughes on the back.
33:49Now, is this the script that you're wanting Colin to play you?
33:52No, that's a different script.
33:53That would be a whole different prosthetic.
33:55Stronger, more original. More original.
33:57We've got the prosthetics worked out for you today.
33:59Don't worry, it's racially sensitive.
34:01Nice.
34:04It's fine. You won't get into trouble.
34:06OK, sure.
34:07But I wrote everything that Harold Hughes wrote in order first.
34:12I had a lot of time on my hands.
34:14I think, to me more, we'd like to get a can opener
34:17and look in your brain.
34:19It is fascinating.
34:20So you wrote all of this first?
34:21Yes, all of...
34:22Why?
34:23Because I needed to sort of find out who he was by what he wrote.
34:27The why question does suggest, why did you bother?
34:30No! No!
34:32This is a key question.
34:34This is an important question.
34:36But I've always wanted to do a thing
34:38whereby you do a story about someone
34:40and then you do all of the things that they did.
34:43So you create a complete fictional world,
34:45kind of like a Salinger Glass family world, or like Spinal Tap.
34:49I genuinely love their records.
34:52I love Spinal Tap records and I like the documentary
34:55and where sort of comic worlds can kind of go out and become bigger.
34:59So that was the idea.
35:00Is there anything...
35:01I'm sure so much of you is in all of this work,
35:04but is there any exact anecdote or in the stories
35:07that's from your real life?
35:09Yes.
35:10In terms of how lots of people find the character frustrating,
35:13I've taken that from my life.
35:15LAUGHTER
35:17But did you discover anything about yourself through this?
35:20Well, this is the thing.
35:21The book really is about whether you should keep writing.
35:25And in a way, I've answered that question with those books.
35:29So I'm announcing my retirement...
35:31LAUGHTER
35:33..from writing, and this is it.
35:35Now, this is exciting,
35:36because I believe you brought one of Harold's poems with you.
35:40Yes, Harold wrote a lot of very muscular and powerful poetry,
35:44as well as, you know, his very important films.
35:47And I have asked Colin if he would accompany...
35:51It's a two-hander.
35:52Yes.
35:53It's a two-hander poem.
35:54Will you do it?
35:55It's called The Breakdown, the poem.
35:57I would love to.
35:58OK, thank you.
35:59So now, I think you've each got a camera that you can look at.
36:02I'll be playing Colin.
36:03Oh, sorry.
36:04Actually, I have to get into character, because I...
36:07Sorry. OK, sorry.
36:08Here we go.
36:09LAUGHTER
36:11Excellent.
36:13It doesn't take four and a half hours, mate.
36:16OK, don't blow this.
36:18OK, so I think Richard is six and Colin is three.
36:22I'll try and do Harold Hughes's voice as well,
36:24so don't be alarmed.
36:25OK.
36:26OK.
36:27And what's it called again?
36:28It's called The Breakdown.
36:29The Breakdown.
36:30Can we say it together?
36:31Yes.
36:32That would be nice.
36:33One, two, three.
36:34The Breakdown.
36:35Here we go, here we go.
36:37Have you broken down?
36:39I have broken down.
36:41Where did the event take place?
36:44It took place near my home.
36:46How far from your home were you when the event took place?
36:49I don't know how to get to my home.
36:51Was the breakdown sudden or were there warnings?
36:55No-one warns me.
36:57Are you with anyone or are you on your own?
36:59I am on my own.
37:01Was anyone else involved?
37:03No-one else is involved.
37:05Would you like to stay where you are until we arrive?
37:08I would like to be home.
37:10We are quite busy. Are you OK to wait?
37:13I have time, but I'm not OK.
37:17Are you insured?
37:19I am not insured.
37:21And what kind of car is your car?
37:24I am not in a car.
37:26Well, perhaps it's better to stay in the car.
37:29I do not have a car.
37:32You do realise this is AA?
37:35I know who you are.
37:37We help people who have broken down.
37:40I have broken down.
37:43People who have broken down in their cars.
37:46And what about those who haven't?
37:49APPLAUSE
37:51Beautiful.
37:58Thanks for the work.
38:00I've come back out of character now.
38:03Edward Strahani, everybody!
38:05CHEERING
38:07OK, it is time for music.
38:09I think this man is one of our favourite singer-songwriters
38:12who's recently gone back to his roots
38:14with his first all-Italian album, Miss Italia,
38:18performing Bada-bing, Bada-boom with Miles Kane.
38:22Please welcome Jack Savaretti!
38:25Savaretti, Miles Kane and the rest of the band!
38:29So great!
38:31Jack, come on over here. Yes!
38:34Oh!
38:36Hey!
38:39Thank you very much.
38:41There you are, exactly.
38:43Jack Richard!
38:45Oh, my goodness.
38:47There we go.
38:49I learned me.
38:51Thank you so much for that.
38:53Thank you so much for having me.
38:55No, not at all.
38:57This is a vain attempt to make me look less handsome, by the way.
39:01Yes, the context is bad for me at the moment.
39:04So, that is off Miss Italia, the new album, which is out now.
39:10So, this is your first all-Italian album.
39:13We should say... We translated it for you.
39:16That's the English version, because we're too thick to be Italian.
39:20So, why an album all in Italian?
39:22To be honest, it was the first album I've ever had to do
39:25rather than chose to do.
39:27My father's Italian, hence Savaretti, the name,
39:29and he passed away two and a half years ago.
39:31That was the first experience I ever had of grief.
39:34The psychological and emotional element of it, I was able to deal with,
39:38but the physical side of it shocked me.
39:40The pain, the feeling it in your bones and your skin.
39:43It got me to a point where it was so painful
39:45that I stopped feeling anything.
39:47I became rather numb.
39:48The only thing that moved me was Italian music.
39:50It was when I would listen to Italian music, which has this thing,
39:53and it would make me feel like his presence was there,
39:56I would find my own sense of feeling.
39:58It brought me to tears, to laughter, to singing at the top of my lungs.
40:01I just remember thinking,
40:02I need a lot more of this in my life right now.
40:04So, I wrote an Italian album.
40:06A question from Miss Gaga.
40:08Is there one song that you think your dad would have loved the most
40:11off your album?
40:13Oh, man. Yes.
40:15There is, because there's only one song he heard.
40:17I never planned, like I said, on writing an Italian album.
40:20It wasn't a choice. It was like a necessity thing.
40:22But there was one song I wrote at 3 o'clock in the morning.
40:25I would usually phone him at 3 o'clock in the morning
40:27when I was staying up too late and just chat about life,
40:29and I said, I've written my first Italian song.
40:31He said it was OK.
40:33It sounds like an Italian father.
40:35Yeah, it sounds like an Italian father.
40:37But it's the song that means the most.
40:39It's the first song on the album.
40:41I love your life. Your life is so mad.
40:43I follow you on Instagram. Of course you do.
40:45We actually write to each other.
40:47So, you were just doing these huge shows in...
40:49Was it Greece you were just doing?
40:51Greece, but we were blown away. We went to Romania.
40:53But there are audiences in Bucharest.
40:55We went to Bulgaria, Sofia.
40:57These are parts of Eastern Europe
40:59that are still not super open to a lot of live music.
41:01So when you go, the energy, the feeling you get from a crowd...
41:05For someone like... We don't always play to big crowds like this,
41:07so that already in itself is unique.
41:09But when you get that unique, genuine...
41:11They're there because they feel this.
41:13The release. Yeah, it's a release.
41:15Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
41:17And that was, for us, very much of a first-time experience.
41:19We're still riding that wave.
41:21So, people in the UK get to have that experience.
41:23Is it next February?
41:25Yeah, but that's just kind of me alone.
41:27It's a whole different experience.
41:29Oh, oh.
41:31Stay home, everyone.
41:33Jack just wants to be by himself.
41:35I'll come.
41:37It's all right.
41:39Who's in tonight? Just Jack.
41:41It'll be like that.
41:43It'll be me alone with a lot of guests in different cities.
41:45Beautiful. That sounds cool, man.
41:47It'll be good. It'll be awesome.
41:49What I was saying was it'll be different.
41:51It'll be wonderful. Listen, Jack, thank you so much
41:53for that beautiful performance.
41:55Good luck with the album and that tour.
41:57Jack Severetti, everybody!
41:59Thank you so much.
42:01Gorgeous.
42:03I love you now.
42:05OK, that is nearly it.
42:07Before we go, just time for the first visit
42:09of the new series to the big red chair.
42:11Hello. Hello.
42:13Hi. What's your name?
42:15Brett Dunbar.
42:17We have a full name and address here.
42:21We just go with first names,
42:23because people Google, people find them on Facebook
42:25and are really abusive afterwards.
42:27We'll just say Brett.
42:29Now, I hear an accent. Where are you from?
42:31Originally from South Africa.
42:33OK. But you live here now?
42:35Yes, in Walton-on-Thames.
42:37OK, full address again.
42:41Brett wants to be found!
42:47LAUGHTER
42:49Live location.
42:51All right, Brett.
42:53What do you do?
42:55I'm a communications manager for a company.
42:57OK.
42:59LAUGHTER
43:01LAUGHTER
43:03All right, Brett,
43:05off you go with your story.
43:07Right, so I was in South Africa with my best friend.
43:09We were at a lodge
43:11and we were students, no money,
43:13and we really only had money
43:15for beer and cigarettes.
43:17So we decided to go to a lodge
43:19and we were on this beautiful gorge
43:21and my friend Roxanne said,
43:23oh, look, Brett, it's a monkey.
43:25And I looked and I said,
43:27no, Rox, that's a baboon.
43:29We need to go.
43:31So we slowly backed away
43:33and we were the only ones on this gorge,
43:35literally looking between death
43:37and this baboon,
43:39and he came up, sat on our table,
43:41he ate every single one of our cigarettes,
43:43except hers, because they were the cheap brand,
43:45then he put his muzzle
43:47into our beers,
43:49downed both of them,
43:51and then after a good time
43:53just urinated all over the table.
43:55LAUGHTER
43:57I'm flipping, I'm flipping.
43:59APPLAUSE
44:01I wanted the baboon to do more.
44:03APPLAUSE
44:05He's two years sober now, the baboon.
44:07If that had happened in Hyde Park,
44:09an amazing story.
44:11You're on safari in a lodge.
44:13Yeah, you're on a pipe gorge in South Africa,
44:15of course there's a baboon.
44:17OK, that really is all we've got time for.
44:19If you'd like to have a go in the red chair yourself
44:21and tell your story, you can contact us
44:23by our website at this address.
44:25Please say thank you to all of my guests tonight.
44:27Jack Saboretti and Miles Gane.
44:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
44:31Richard Ayoade.
44:33Colin Farrell.
44:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
44:37Demi Moore.
44:39Greg Garga.
44:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
44:43Join me next week with musical guest Terry,
44:45top comedian Greg Davies,
44:47music icon Naina Cherry,
44:49Hollywood star Sebastian Stan,
44:51and the one and only Hugh Grant.
44:53I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye.