As the Jammu & Kashmir elections near completion, questions arise about India's plans to reclaim Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK). While political analysts discuss the feasibility, reclaiming PoK remains complex due to geopolitical factors, military challenges, and international implications. Despite strong national sentiments, experts believe India’s move towards PoK will require careful strategy, making it far from an easy task. The panel of Rajiv Chuni, JS Sodhi and Others Debate.
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00:00I'll go to Mr. Sodhi. Mr. Sodhi, this is the same question regarding POJK which is being fought.
00:06What kind of impact are these elections having on that region and you can see it from a political point of view?
00:14Look, Jantak, the issue of taking back Pakistan occupied Jammu and Kashmir,
00:19this is a very difficult issue. Difficult because our war,
00:25if it is for POJK from Pakistan, it will not only be from Pakistan at that time,
00:30China will also come in that war.
00:33And because this will be a two-front war, which is also being discussed in the public domain,
00:38all the timelines should be pointed towards 2035.
00:42If we talk about taking back POJK, the easy way is that the people there themselves decide
00:50that they want to come back to India, that will be an easy way.
00:54But the military option will be very difficult and I would like to comment on this.
01:00Last year, on August 7, 2023, General M. M. Narav, who was the 28th Army Chief of the Indian Army
01:08and retired two years ago, wrote an article in The Print,
01:12where he has clearly written that a two-front war will create a lot of problems for India.
01:17Today, China is 30 years ahead of us in military preparations.
01:22If the army of Pakistan is also joined, because it is also a professional army,
01:27then the army of China-Pakistan becomes even heavier in comparison to India's military preparedness.
01:33And I would like to make one last comment.
01:35The wars that we have seen so far, in which the 3rd Army, Air Force and 9th Army
01:40do joint operations, the wars that China will do in the future will be different.
01:45First, there will be cyber, electromagnetic spectrum and space warfare.
01:50The 3rd Army, Air Force and 9th Army will come much later.
01:53Okay, absolutely. But this is the last resort and they should not go there.
01:58We want to understand that if these elections are held in a democratic way,
02:03and a message is sent on an international level,
02:05then how can pressure be put on Pakistan at the international level?
02:09What can be done?
02:10We will also go to Mr. Kaul. Let's go back to the speech once.
02:13Mr. Chunni, if you can hear us, then unmute yourself.
02:16Because your voice is still not coming.
02:20No, no, Mr. Chunni, you will have to press the unmute button on the screen.
02:24The first button on your left-hand side.
02:26Yes, I can hear you.
02:27Yes, absolutely. Please, welcome.
02:29Thank you for giving me this opportunity.
02:33First of all, I would like to congratulate you all on the victory of democracy in J&K.
02:42Because before today, to collect a few hundred votes,
02:46Kashmir had to put in a lot of effort.
02:49Today, the number of votes is increasing by lakhs.
02:52Now people have started to believe that we can choose and bring the government of our choice.
02:58But there are also some dangers.
03:00Mr. Kaul was just talking to me about Jamait-e-Islami and Engineer Rashid.
03:05The whole world knows what kind of people they are.
03:09They should not be happy that the power is in their hands.
03:13Because in the future, these people can prove to be murderers here.
03:17We have to take care of this too.
03:19Because with great difficulty, we have brought that sinking boat to the shore.
03:25So that it does not go that way again.
03:27You talked about the Pakadikrit of J&K.
03:30It is true that my 12 lakh Hindus and Sikhs have come here from there.
03:37We had suggested this to the Indian government many times.
03:41That war cannot be an option.
03:44One of my colleagues just said this.
03:46But there are many other options.
03:48People-to-people contact is a big thing.
03:52That was because we have kept 24 seats vacant in the J&K assembly.
03:59We said that one third of the people live here.
04:02You give at least 8 seats to these people.
04:06So that they can talk about the areas of Mirpur, Muzaffarabad, Kotli, Bimber in the assembly.
04:14Which are under the illegal occupation of Pakistan today.
04:17Then a message will go that the country is serious about this area.
04:22It does not just give a statement in the parliament.
04:25It is also working on it.
04:27Because we have not done anything else.
04:29Pakistan made the CPEC.
04:31And in that CPEC, the lands of my Hindus and Sikhs were destroyed.
04:37Roads and railways were built.
04:39We could not stop it.
04:41Although we should have stopped it.
04:43But if my people would have been representatives.
04:45If they had a locus.
04:47They would have gone to the national and international forums and talked about it.
04:50And one thing, my colleague Jaswinder has said a very good thing.
04:55One thing is certain.
04:57When people want, this wall will not take long to fall.
05:01This will not work with the army.
05:03This will not work in a diplomatic way.
05:05When people across the border want.
05:07And I think that time has come today.
05:10Those people also want.
05:12We also want that area to come back.
05:14But for this, we will have to make an environment.
05:17We will have to make an environment.
05:19And no one can make that environment except my people.
05:22Because we are the residents there.
05:25All our wealth is there.
05:28We have lost our people.
05:30Those people have lived with our elders.
05:33They were born there.
05:35They played there.
05:36They grew up there.
05:37We cannot forget that area.
05:39But I will definitely say one thing.
05:41Today, the way the percentage of votes has increased here in J&K.
05:46This is a great victory of democracy.
05:49For which our people made millions of sacrifices.
05:52To make this country a democratic country.
05:55For this, I congratulate all of you and my colleagues.
06:01Mr. Kaul, how do you see the way out of J&K?
06:06What can be the way out?
06:11I have been seeing this since childhood.
06:14When I used to go to school in Jammu.
06:17Everyday, I used to see how the people of J&K used to protest.
06:24Everyday.
06:25I say everyday.
06:28In the 60s, Bachchan Singh Panchi.
06:30Today, our leader is there.
06:33So, Bachchan Singh Panchi used to raise his voice everyday.
06:39So, we raise our voice with his voice.
06:43And the injustice that has happened to him.
06:46So, to give justice to him.
06:49We have fought together with the Indian government.
06:54When we said, give them seats.
06:56Give us seats.
06:58I met the delimitation commission twice.
07:02In which Ranjana Desai was the chairman of the Supreme Court.
07:05And the entire election commission.
07:07We explained to the entire bench.
07:10What happened to the Kashmiri Hindus.
07:13The genocide that took place.
07:16And what will be our political empowerment.
07:20We want to represent in the parliament.
07:24We want to represent in the assembly.
07:26And keep our word.
07:27In the same way, the 15 lakh people who have been here since 1947-48.
07:35The discrimination that the Indian government has done against them.
07:39It should not rain.
07:41So, that's why we all got together.
07:46And then it happened that POJK was given one member in the assembly.
07:53And Kashmiri Pantu has been given two members.
07:56One male and one female.
07:58But this representation is not enough for them.
08:02We want.
08:04I want to add one thing.
08:33The deity of Kashmir is Sharda.
08:41The real name of Kashmir is Sharda Bhoomi.
08:46Sharda is in POJK.
08:48Its temple, which is at least 3,000-4,000 years old, is in Sharda.
08:53Today, right in front of it, on the banks of the Krishna Ganga.
08:57We built a Sharda temple there.
09:00And we have said that we are coming.
09:03We are coming to POJK.
09:05It is ours.
09:07That Kashmir is ours.
09:09We are going there.
09:11And we will go there together with Mr. Chunni.
09:15Mr. Chunni.
09:16Look, my colleague Mr. Kohl said one thing.
09:20That we did not have the right to vote.
09:23This is a little wrong here.
09:26Because we are people of Maharaja Hari Singh's territory.
09:29We had full rights here.
09:31He is talking about the western Pakistanis who came from Punjab.
09:34Okay, no problem.
09:35But they are my colleagues.
09:37They have helped us by joining their shoulders everywhere.
09:40We also help them.
09:42But I will definitely say one thing.
09:44That the Indian government has gone wrong somewhere in this matter.
09:47We brought the reorganization bill twice in Jammu and Kashmir.
09:51One was brought on 5 August 2019.
09:53And the second was brought in 2023 when we made the amendment.
09:57I have a report of 8 committees and commissions for my POJK institutions.
10:04In which it has been said again and again.
10:07Give them 8 seats.
10:09Empower them politically.
10:11Then the POJK issue can be raised at the national and international level.
10:16Because these people become their locus.
10:20And Ranjana Desai ji said give sufficient seats.
10:24But we got 1 seat.
10:25So they got 2.
10:26It's a good thing.
10:27We don't oppose them.
10:28But I am saying that the more seats you give.
10:31The more voice is made.
10:33And even today I have a doubt.
10:34The seat they have given.
10:36Which will be filled by the LG sir here.
10:39He has the right.
10:40They will make it a political refuge.
10:43They will not bring such a person there.
10:46Who talks about there.
10:47They want that person.
10:49Who is affiliated with the party.
10:51Which party government is formed here.
10:53Or whatever party wants.
10:54These are all things.
10:56I am saying one thing and ending my talk.
10:58The biggest thing is.
11:00My colleague said a very good thing.
11:04That these things.
11:06To make this wall fall.
11:07If people will stand.
11:09Then the walls will fall.
11:10It's not a big deal.
11:11Even today I.
11:12I was born in Jammu.
11:14But I speak the language of Mirpur in my house.
11:17Although I was not born there.
11:19Because this is my mother's language.
11:20Mirpur is under the illegal occupation of Pakistan today.
11:23My land.
11:24My property.
11:25Mangla Dam has been built there.
11:27But the Indian government tells me.
11:29That one day we will vacate.
11:31And you will be returned to your house.
11:33Will you send me in water?
11:35I will go and drown in that dam.
11:37I will find my house.
11:38These are all things.
11:39Who has to do this?
11:40He will do the same.
11:41To whom these things are sticking.
11:44Who has tolerated this.
11:46So I think that our people.
11:48The people should get the representation.
11:50They should talk.
11:51Then the problem will be solved.
11:53Otherwise, the air-conditioned rooms.
11:55The decision will not be made.
11:57A small question related to this.
11:59I want to know more.
12:00You said that a seat has been given.
12:02And it will be a nominated seat.
12:04When you talked about this.
12:06Is the government saying.
12:08Is there a constitutional obstacle?
12:10Is there a constitutional obstacle?
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