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Video Information: 22.02.23, SPA College (Online), Greater Noida

Context:
~ What's special about Indian culture?
~ How old is Indian culture?
~ How much of our culture has been influenced by foreigners?
~ Do we really have a rich culture?
~ What is worthy of adoration?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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Category

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Learning
Transcript
00:00If you are with someone, as a friend or a relative or a partner, would you feel okay
00:11if that person can fundamentally change any given day?
00:22To live, you require that which is not born out of influences, which is not a product
00:29of the human mind.
00:32Everything that is coming from the society is a product of human mind and it just keeps
00:39changing.
00:40If it keeps changing, then it will not be able to take you too far.
00:45The purpose of spirituality is to give you the deepest inner assurance possible, the
00:53deepest rest and peace possible.
00:57And that you can get only if you have something that is not man-made, that is not a product
01:04of thought, that is not influenced or conditioned.
01:11And culture, values, tradition are not that, not at all.
01:16If you read about your culture or traditions, they are today in no way the same as they
01:27were even just 50 years back.
01:31They have been changing.
01:34Note the word, change, whereas if you talk of the Upanishads, they take you to that which
01:42is unchangeable.
01:45The difference must be very clear, the difference is very stark.
01:49Culture is all the time changing, right?
01:53In fact, you get a new flick, a new release and you very well know that in its own little
01:59way it changes culture, does it not?
02:04This auditorium did not exist 100 years back, but let's say it did.
02:13Would you be sitting here in these same clothes?
02:18So things have changed, right?
02:21Look at the kind of food you eat today, is it the same as what your grandparents used
02:27to eat, your language, even your values?
02:32I am pretty sure a few decades back we would not have so many female participants here,
02:40right?
02:42What are you doing, studying engineering or business education, what are you doing?
02:51The values of that time wanted you either to not to be educated at all or be educated
02:59only in housekeeping, right?
03:04So things have changed, are you getting it?
03:10I am still to get over this, how are people able to relate the Upanishads or Gita to culture
03:18or tradition or values, there is just no relationship.
03:23In fact, the spiritual man, the man of Vedanta, the man of wisdom will have very little regards
03:32for culture, tradition, values etc.
03:36If he has to value, he will value just that one that the Gita enjoins him to value.
03:47Does Krishna teach you to value a thousand things?
03:50Is that the philosophy, the message of the Gita?
03:53Value a thousand things, value what your father told you, value the kind of local customs
04:01that are practiced in your region, is that what the Upanishads or the Gita are telling
04:05you?
04:06They are telling you that you must value only the absolute truth and beyond that nothing
04:12is to be valued, right?
04:15And in this world, if something is to be accorded value, it would be in proportion to the capacity
04:21of that thing to take you to the truth, right?
04:26If I am for example, to value this occasion, that value has to be proportionate to the
04:36intent and ability of this occasion to give us something higher, right?
04:41If this occasion fails to give us something higher, why must we value or respect this
04:44occasion?
04:45Must you?
04:47The value that you are according to this speaker has to be commiserate with the intent and
04:53ability of this speaker to give you something that is sublime, that has a timeless value.
05:02If only is this speaker able to do that, does he deserve some value, otherwise he should
05:07be thrown out of this place.
05:12That is the message of the Gita.
05:15That is what when Krishna says that you should leave all the dharmas behind and come only
05:24to me.
05:26What does he mean when he says that all the dharmas are to be left behind?
05:34Mamey kamsaranam vraja.
05:35What does that mean?
05:36That means, you know, all these responsibilities and things of thought, thought and culture
05:41and tradition and value and what not and conditioning of a thousand kinds that you
05:46have given a place to in your mind, just keep them aside.
05:50They do not merit the kind of respect that you give them, value just that one thing that
05:56I am teaching you right now.
05:59That understanding is everything, right?
06:03Blindly following this or that custom does not mean much.
06:09In fact, if you look at those who have been able to reform the society, they were the
06:15ones who were deeply rooted in Vedanta.
06:21If you will go to the Indian renaissance of the last two centuries, two and a half centuries,
06:30look at the names you come across, Raja Ram Mohan Roy, D. Bindranath Tagore, D. K. Karve,
06:42who are these people?
06:43Where were they coming from?
06:46Or Swami Dayanand Saraswati, where were they coming from?
06:50Or Swami Vivekananda for that matter?
06:53Or Mahatma Gandhi, he too was a social reformer.
06:57Or if you want to take the entire spectrum, then obviously you have to include Dr. Ambedkar,
07:04Sahitri Bai Phule, Jyoti Bai Phule.
07:10They were coming from their commitment to the truth or were they committed to tradition
07:15and values and culture, I am asking you, please tell me.
07:20If tradition, values and culture are to be accorded a great place, then we would never
07:29improve, never.
07:31So, if people are going abroad and then refusing to read wisdom literature, that is when I
07:44will be alarmed, that is when I will be alarmed.
07:50But if they go abroad and let their language be influenced or their choice of clothing,
08:04let the jury be still out.
08:07Obviously I will not want somebody to turn a flesh eater just because he has left India
08:13and settled abroad.
08:16But if you say that you will behave in exactly the same way after settling abroad, you say
08:25you must behave and wear and speak exactly the same way as you used to do when you were
08:32in Kanpur or Nagpur or Indore or Badaiu or Hapur or that defies common sense.
08:45But if your commitment to the truth starts wavering when you go abroad, then that indeed
08:51is a cause for concern.
08:55If the Gita was respectable to you as long as you were in India and once you land abroad,
09:06you shun the Gita, then I will be concerned.
09:10It is the timeless truth that matters, please understand.
09:14Everything else is anyway time dependent, is it not?
09:20Except the truth, everything is time dependent and that which is time dependent must obviously
09:25change with time, kalchak, only the truth is kalateet, akal, samayateet as you put it.
09:37What is the problem in letting the other things change?
09:43And if you do not want to let things change, then let us behave as we used to do in the
09:49last century or in the 16th century or in the 6th century.
09:55Even the advocates of culture do not want us to go back to the 6th century.
10:00And if you think of it, the 6th and the 7th centuries were probably the last periods in
10:06history when India had a totally indigenous culture, right?
10:138th and 9th century onwards, India started getting influenced from the western contacts.
10:24In fact, I should not even say 8th and 9th century.
10:27Before the Arabs came, there were the Greeks and the Greeks came 500, 700 years, 1000 years
10:35rather, not 1000, 700 years before the Arabs and then later on the Turks came.
10:44So if you want to have a pure culture, you will have to go to not to year 1800 but to
10:52800 and even 800 will not be very pure.
11:00And all those who keep talking of culture and Indian values, the maximum that they want
11:09to revert to is 1800.
11:14My question to them is why 1800, why not 1600, 1200?
11:22Why not the year 800 Christ era?
11:28And why not go back to the culture before Christ?
11:33How are you arbitrarily drawing a line and saying that, you know, we must behave as we
11:40used to do in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries?
11:45And even there, you want to behave as per your local custom and tradition.
11:57Typically those who talk too much of the culture, talk of the North Indian culture.
12:03But they believe that the North Indian culture is the culture of the entire country.
12:10So look at what they are saying, they are talking of something very narrow in terms
12:16of regionality and also temporality.
12:21In terms of time, they are saying let's go back just 100 years, not less than 100 years,
12:27not more than 100 years.
12:28And in terms of regionality, let's limit ourselves to the Hindi belt.
12:34What about the culture elsewhere?
12:36If you want to retain culture, then you must retain the culture that was found all across
12:42the subcontinent.
12:48And also if you really want to retain the culture that existed in India in the 18th,
12:5519th or 20th centuries, then a lot that you do today will have to be stopped.
13:05From where has the trouser arrived?
13:13From where have the potato chips arrived?
13:20This was not happening even 200 years back.
13:25And I keep asking, chips come later, first of all comes the potato.
13:31From where has the potato arrived?
13:33Potato is not indigenous, neither is the tomato.
13:40If you want to limit yourself only to the things that belong exclusively to the subcontinent,
13:47then forget about chips and burgers and pizzas and Manchurian balls.
13:54You will have to give up on tomato and potato as well.
14:00You use the kurta, for example, on all your religious occasions, don't you?
14:07From where has the kurta come?
14:10Is the kurta really indigenous?
14:16If you talk of things that are exclusively to India, India, mind you, had very little
14:22tradition of any upper wear, neither for men nor for women, because we are a hot country.
14:30So, men used to wear next to nothing, when it comes to the upper body and women too used
14:39to wear very little.
14:40That's the Indian culture.
14:41Tell me from where has the ghoonghat come?
14:44But you talk of the ghoonghat as Indian culture.
14:47It is not.
14:50And you know from where the ghoonghat is coming.
14:54You know the tribes belonging to Arabia that used to practice purdah.
15:01That was a cultural thing there.
15:03And when the cultural mixture took place, then that thing came to India as well and
15:08you started using the ghoonghat.
15:12But today if you locate a woman wearing a saree and practicing the ghoonghat, you will
15:17immediately say, oh, she is a cultural woman.
15:20But she is not.
15:29The problem is that we don't read, so we do not know.
15:34In the name of culture, all that we know of is the stuff that we saw in our houses
15:39till a few decades back and we think that is Indian culture.
15:43But that's a very illiterate kind of view of Indian culture.
15:50Just because your grandfather was doing something, how does it become Indian culture?
16:00You know what is culture?
16:01That which people practice is culture.
16:04That which people practice is culture.
16:07If a foreigner came to India just around let's say 30 years back, he would say chewing the
16:18betel nut with supari and katha and chuna and spitting it out selectively on white walls
16:26is Indian culture.
16:28Because that's what everybody was doing in India, especially on the hospital walls.
16:34That's how hygienic we were.
16:37Now you're not doing that.
16:38Why are you not doing that?
16:39Why are you defying your culture?
16:43Note the definition of culture.
16:44Culture is an ever-changing entity.
16:48That which most people start practicing becomes the culture.
16:58You guys are little young, those who have a few grey hair would remember the menace
17:03of pan.
17:04You remember?
17:05Common buildings, government buildings, hospitals, everywhere just pan, pan and pan.
17:11How is that not culture?
17:12Please tell me.
17:14And do you want to retain that or do you rather want to improve?
17:18Please tell me.
17:21So the great good elements of culture must be retained.
17:30And how do you know what is good in your culture?
17:34That which leads to the truth of the Upanishads and Gita is good.
17:41That which you are just blindly practicing is bad.
17:44It's simple, is it not?
17:46It's so straightforward.

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