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Constitutional Amendments | Maria Memon Analysis | Bilal Kayani's Reaction
Constitutional Amendments | Maria Memon Analysis | Bilal Kayani's Reaction
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00:00It seems that the people's party has taken up the task of getting Aini Tarameem passed.
00:04Bilawal was not only defending Tarameem, but was also talking about the limits of Tarameem.
00:12And to get her passed, she had adopted a very assertive tone.
00:17It is surprising that Tarameem is being proposed by the current PMLN government.
00:23All the legwork and drafting of Tarameem is being done by the government.
00:30But the government itself is missing in action.
00:32We have not heard a single statement from Nawaz Sharif about Aini Tarameem.
00:37There is complete radio silence from Nawaz Sharif.
00:41We saw that the Chief Minister of Punjab did not comment on this matter.
00:45Today, when Bilawal spoke at the Sindh High Court Bar, the Chief Minister was sitting with him.
00:52That is, the Sindh government and Bilawal's party are pooling their resources for Tarameem.
01:01And today, Bilawal said in a very assertive tone that Aini courts will definitely come.
01:22This can't be done through the court.
01:24The court has taken the power to do Tarameem in the constitution.
01:29We can't do it.
01:30The judges say that it is their wish.
01:32My lord, my lord.
01:33This can't be done.
01:34If we want to make this judicial system powerful,
01:38there should be equality in every court.
01:41The Chief Justice of the Fakir court should be on rotation.
01:47Again, the Pakistan People's Party feels that the responsibility has been given.
01:51To make a consensus on this issue.
01:53To make statements on this issue.
01:54Today, Bilawal did a very interesting exercise.
01:56We saw that Vukla was present at the Sindh High Court Bar.
01:59People's wing.
02:00There were also their suggestions.
02:01He was also taking notes.
02:03He was also answering them.
02:04The matter of 63A came to light.
02:05And now this debate has come to the public.
02:10Because the Supreme Court has put a petition for the review of 63A.
02:14For the hearing on 30th September.
02:16So, Bilawal actively lobbied for the review of 63A.
02:22Listen to this.
02:24When we were doing the 18th amendment,
02:26we increased the definition of 63A because
02:31it was against the Pakistan People's Party.
02:33This was a strong policy.
02:35Sometimes in the form of IJI.
02:37Sometimes in the form of parasites.
02:38Sometimes in the form of patriots.
02:39Sometimes in some form.
02:41When this consensus was made,
02:43that to combat the floor crossing,
02:45the members of the parliament will have to follow the guidelines of the party line.
02:51If they decide, for any reason,
02:53to go against the party line,
02:55then they use the vote.
02:58It is counted.
02:59And then they have to fight by-election with the public.
03:04Now, it is not so easy to bring the amendment.
03:06Because the government's own numbers are not complete.
03:09Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman has asked for at least one month to read the draft.
03:15One draft is with Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman's Jamaat.
03:18One draft is with Bilawal Bhutto's Jamaat.
03:21The PMLN's own draft has not yet come to the fore.
03:24Many of their own MNAs or senators have not seen that draft.
03:29So, how to pass this amendment?
03:31For that, a review of 63A is required.
03:34So that those who belong to different parties can vote.
03:38Their vote should be counted.
03:39And they should not be incompetent.
03:41So, is this the first step towards which Bilawal Bhutto is pointing?
03:45Because it is not just about bringing the amendment.
03:47They have to pass it as well.
03:48Before the program, I have with me Bilal Azhar Qayani,
03:50Renwa Pakistan Muslimi Nawaz,
03:52Barrister Umair Niazi,
03:53and I belong to Tehreek-e-Insaf.
03:55Let me start with you, Mr. Bilal.
03:57You have outsourced the People's Party.
04:00To make a consensus on the amendment,
04:02to make an opinion in the public domain,
04:04to include the input in the final draft.
04:07Because Bilawal is playing on the front foot.
04:09We have seen PMLN missing in action since that day.
04:13Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim.
04:14Mariya Sahiba, thank you for having me on the show.
04:16Look, it is not like that.
04:18I think the thing is that there are many things
04:20on which we and the People's Party agree.
04:23Constitutional courts is one of those things.
04:25So, our leadership has been quite vocal.
04:27On the floor of the house, you saw Khawaja Asif,
04:29Azam Tarar.
04:32And even after that,
04:33continuously on talk shows and other forums,
04:36Azam Tarar spoke yesterday in a press conference
04:38as a law minister.
04:40Mr. Bilawal has his own opinion
04:42and he feels strongly about constitutional courts.
04:44So, he is also there.
04:45Naturally, ownership will come from other parties
04:48only then will a unanimous amendment be possible.
04:51Given the fact that you need two thirds majority
04:53in both the houses separately.
04:55This is the one bill that cannot be passed in a joint sitting.
04:58So, I think the more the merrier.
05:02Constitutional courts is one of those things
05:03on which we agree.
05:05And I totally agree with this argument of the constitutional courts.
05:08That is your joint suggestion, right?
05:10That is also in the constitution.
05:12But we have not heard Mr. Nawaz Sharif's opinion
05:15in the public domain.
05:17That day he came to vote.
05:18Apparently, when the constitution came to know
05:20that the vote was not complete,
05:21he went back.
05:22Now, with such a big consensus,
05:23you are bringing a legislation.
05:25He is the Prime Minister three times.
05:27What does he think about this?
05:28Tell people.
05:29Look, it is not necessary that he speaks verbally on everything.
05:32But when Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif
05:34when his government has moved a bill
05:36and Mr. Shahbaz Sharif is the nominated Prime Minister of Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
05:42So, he is acting on for the party.
05:45So, there is no need for his opinion?
05:47No, look, for example,
05:48you take the example of People's Party.
05:50Mr. Zardari does not have to say this.
05:51Mr. Bilawal is saying.
05:52So, it is accepted as a fact that the party is speaking.
05:54In our case, when Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
05:56both as Prime Minister
05:57and as a very senior member of the party,
05:59Mr. Nawaz Sharif is saying something.
06:01So, that carries weight on Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
06:03So, I don't think Mr. Nawaz Sharif needs to speak verbally.
06:05But naturally,
06:06on such a constitutional amendment,
06:08our party or the government would not have this stance
06:10if Mr. Nawaz Sharif's approval.
06:11So, I think that is a given.
06:12So, what happened that night?
06:13When the vote was not completed,
06:14Mr. Nawaz Sharif came.
06:15He had these assurances that the vote will be completed.
06:18He came to vote, right?
06:19Because when he found out that the vote was not being completed,
06:21then he went back.
06:22So, was he ignorant that night?
06:23Or was he given assurances?
06:25That is a very sloppy execution.
06:27Look, I think that
06:29some people thought that
06:31maybe Mr. Maulana had also agreed.
06:33There was a debate.
06:35A few days ago,
06:36a discussion was going on verbally.
06:38You saw that Mr. Shabaz Sharif had also met Mr. Maulana.
06:40Mr. Zardari had also met.
06:41Other meetings and discussions were going on.
06:43So, I think the people who were
06:45at that time,
06:46steering this entire process,
06:47perhaps felt that
06:48maybe there will be an agreement in this timeline.
06:50But as it turned out,
06:51that Mr. Maulana was not agreeing on some things,
06:53which is possible on such important things.
06:55So, today, where we stand is that
06:57even today, a discussion is going on
06:58on the constitutional amendment.
06:59And who will finalize it?
07:00Will it be the People's Party?
07:01Will it be the PMLN?
07:02Will there be a joint?
07:03Or will there be a separate version?
07:04Look, I think,
07:05I am sure everyone will get input.
07:06Eventually,
07:07if this comes in the form of a government bill,
07:09then naturally,
07:10the Law Minister and AG
07:11will be the only people
07:12who will hold the pen.
07:13But there is no harm.
07:14Naturally,
07:15everyone can have their papers
07:16on the constitutional amendments.
07:17Every party can have their papers.
07:18People's Party has
07:19Farooq Naik Sahib
07:20and many other parliamentarians
07:22and people who understand the constitution.
07:24Similarly, JUI has
07:25Kamran Murtaza Sahib and many people.
07:26So, there is no harm
07:27that people have their drafts.
07:28Fine.