Katy Perry talks about the making of '143' during her talk with Bru.
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00:00What have you been doing with all your free time lately?
00:04Autopilot toast.
00:05Yeah.
00:06I made a record.
00:07It comes out September 20th.
00:08It's called 143.
00:10It's a dance pop record and it's super fun.
00:12It's a lot of tempo.
00:13It's a lot of love and it's a record I made after having my child and kind of feeling
00:19I'm definitely operating out of a totally different space now.
00:23I'm really appreciative of this space.
00:26It's a little bit more like fulfilled.
00:28It's a little bit less worrisome.
00:30It's a little less on the defense.
00:34It's a little less broken.
00:35It's a little bit more whole and happy and full of light and continuing to spread that
00:40love and light.
00:41And so it is called 143 because that's my angel number.
00:44Yeah.
00:45Do you have like a little symbol or something that you like that kind of makes you feel
00:49secure?
00:50My favorite number is three.
00:52Oh, cool.
00:53So I roll with that a lot, but not like I don't see it everywhere.
00:55Like if you go to Vegas and you win on a three, you're like, yeah.
00:58It's more of the color.
00:59Yeah.
01:00It's color.
01:01Betton on black.
01:02Oh, Betton on black.
01:03Every time.
01:04Okay.
01:05But speaking of creating, is this the first album since Daisy was born?
01:06Yes, it is.
01:07Yeah.
01:08Does that change your perspective at all when creating?
01:09No.
01:10I mean, it's just, it definitely has influenced it in an amazing way and in a love filled
01:17way.
01:19But as far as priorities in life, I say no to a lot, you know, and you super streamline
01:26your goals and your priorities when you have kids.
01:30Because like every day, you know, that you're working or even anything, like any ask, it's
01:37like, okay, well, remember, that's time you get to spend with your kids.
01:40So just navigate that as best you can, because if you say yes to this, that's one less day
01:47with them or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:50But you know, we've struck a balance and I feel like I've so far been able to lay a
01:56really nice foundation for her, hopefully emotionally, and I can go and I can go back
02:01out into the world and show her what makes mom really happy.
02:08And I think her happiness will come from that as well, seeing her mom happy.
02:12That's going to be so adorable to see her at shows, just hanging out, maybe until too
02:17late sometimes.
02:18Yeah, maybe.
02:19Yeah.
02:20Maybe before bed, say goodnight.
02:21I'll be like, it's a woman's world, have you crashed your team yet?
02:25Yeah.
02:26Supermom's doing it all.
02:27They do.
02:28And they do so much.
02:29And you don't even have to be a pop star to know that.
02:31Yeah.
02:32And you don't, you know, there's like, that's why I wrote Woman's World is just like, I have
02:38always respected my mom, but then after having a family, I'm like, how are we alive?
02:45We didn't even have iPads.
02:48How did we have food?
02:50Like this is so wild.
02:52I know.
02:53It's like, and you raised three of us.
02:54Are you okay?
02:55You know, raising one is like, it's intense, you know, Bruce like, yeah, yeah, I got it.
03:02I got it.
03:03I'm listening.
03:04I'm accepting.
03:05Awesome.
03:06You'll get there when you get there.
03:07If you get there, if you choose.
03:08Exactly.
03:09Whatever.
03:10And you know, your pet can be your fur baby, your pet, your fur baby.
03:13It could be your lifetime soulmate connection.
03:15Yeah.
03:16Well, it's so cool to get that sound in here.
03:19Like what's to come from the album, Lifetimes, obviously Woman's World, so big and female
03:23empowerment.
03:24Is there any more of those themes in the album or is it going to be?
03:26There is a lot of, there's one song called Wonder, which is basically about growing up,
03:33but not growing old, never losing that light in your eyes.
03:38There's a song that I feel like will be used for every makeup tutorial called Gorgeous
03:44featuring Kim Petras.
03:47There is a, one of my favorite songs that I got to write was called All the Love.
03:52All the love that I ever lost came back to me.
03:54I was frozen.
03:55I was hopeless.
03:56And now there's poetry in every moment.
03:58All the love that I ever lost came back to me.
04:02And there's just like a lot of tempo.
04:04So if you know, it's one of those records that helps you say yes to the night.
04:10I love that.
04:11You know, influences you.
04:13Totally.
04:14Get up.
04:15Get off your phone.
04:16Stop scrolling.
04:17Get ready.
04:18Let's go out and get in the energy.
04:19We need that.
04:20Yeah.
04:21Absolutely.
04:22If you had to say, what's like one thing we need to know before we listen to one, four,
04:27three.
04:28Does that come to mind?
04:31Um, just, you know, I think it's fun to work out too.
04:36If you want to go on the, if you want to go for a run and listen to it, it'll help you
04:39run faster.
04:40I will tell you that.
04:41I mean, don't quote me on that because I'm not a doctor.
04:45But I think it's going to get, it gives you a pulse, you know?
04:49It's like when I wrote lifetimes, every time I started to actually track it and record
04:56it and I was tired in the studio or whatever, and I started, I would, I switch between songs
05:01when I'm putting finishing touches on them.
05:04So I'll be like, okay, let's do a verse of this.
05:06And then I'll do a verse of this.
05:07Every time I came back to lifetimes, I was like re-energized.
05:11So it gives you that energy.
05:13It's just a fun record.
05:15And you know, I also say like, it's not that deep, although there are a few songs that
05:20are kind of deep because they're about the birth of my child and just the love.
05:24But the world is got a lot of deep, you know, um, intense things going on.
05:31There's a lot of intense things going on in the world.
05:34And so sometimes I think, you know, when it comes to entertain, entertainment, entertainment,
05:40there can be like the opposite of that going on and it can be helpful because you do need
05:46sometimes to let a little bit of the, you know, pressure off the pipes.
05:53So and how do you do that?
05:55Maybe you do that by moving your body, getting out of your head, getting back into your body,
06:00dancing, swimming.
06:01I don't know.
06:02Totally.
06:03Go for a hike and listen to this.
06:06Grab yourself your favorite beverage, go for a hike, share some headphones with a friend
06:15and let's rage.
06:16Like a throwback.
06:17I mean, it's very Californian to do that.
06:19Yeah.
06:20Get up Runyon and we're going to listen to Katy Perry.
06:21Yeah.
06:22It's going to be called Funyun when you listen to this record.
06:25Can't wait for Funyun.
06:26Yeah.
06:27There's so many weird things happening in the world.
06:28You know, what's crazy is like AI stuff.
06:30Yeah.
06:31You know how they like had you at the Met Gala and you weren't, but it looked so real.
06:35It was such a crazy thing.
06:36Yeah.
06:37My mom, my mom actually, she was like, you look so great.
06:41And I'm like, oh mom, not there.
06:43They're coming for you, baby.
06:46Actually it's so funny.
06:47There is a song on the record called Artificial featuring JID and it's a commentary on AI
06:54and I wrote it quite a while ago.
06:57Even before that happened to me.
07:01It's just like a commentary on like, what is this going to be?
07:04You know?
07:05But I do think that like there's going to be so much great stuff that does come out
07:08of it.
07:09Like I think sick people are going to be well, um, faster and for longer and cured, you know,
07:16things.
07:17A lot of people are going to be cured of a lot of things because the science is going
07:20to be figured out so much quicker because the math will math.
07:24That's a good way to look at it.
07:25Yeah.
07:26I mean, it's like a doomsday, but yeah, but like there is something, someone told me this,
07:30they said, you know, the, when the automobile was invented, we were in the horse and buggy
07:36stage in, in, in the world and they had, um, there was a specific job for a person, a guy
07:43to walk in front of the automobile as to help not, um, scare the horse and buggy.
07:49There's some like that was, that was like a job.
07:51It was a career.
07:52Like I'm a guy who walks in front of the car, make sure that the horses don't get
07:57spooked.
07:58And cause can you imagine people were so freaked out by like a car?
08:00Yeah.
08:01What do we do?
08:02All these horses.
08:03Yeah.
08:04And what do we do with all these horses now?
08:05That was our first automobile.
08:06That's so true.
08:07Even with gas stations, when that came around, change, change is tough for everyone, but
08:11we're supposed to change.
08:12We're supposed to evolve.
08:14That's the game.
08:15Yup.
08:16Let's do it.
08:17Let's do it.
08:18Let's bring the good out of it too.
08:19Look, everything has got two parts to it.
08:21Good and bad or?
08:22Yeah.
08:23Well, yin and yang.
08:24Yes.
08:25You know, always a balance.
08:27Good, bad, whatever you want to call it.
08:29And there's going to be two parts to this.
08:31So let's keep it in.
08:32Let's keep it in balance.