الحلقة المحدوفة للصحفي سليمان الريسوني(360P)_1
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00:00In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:25Greetings to all viewers of Ashken TV, welcome to a new episode of Ashken Maisha.
00:33What does the journalist Suleiman Rissouni want after the royal pardon is the subject of this episode.
00:39In this regard, we have with us the director of this interview, the journalist Suleiman Rissouni.
00:46Mr. Suleiman, welcome.
00:47Welcome.
00:48Thank you for inviting me to Ashken Maisha.
00:51Freedom is precious.
00:52Yes, freedom is precious.
00:56There are no values that are more precious than the value of freedom.
01:03And only those who have lost it will feel it.
01:05Yes, of course, those who have lost it.
01:07May God never deprive us of freedom.
01:10Amen.
01:11Suleiman, we have invited you today to discuss what Suleiman wants after the royal pardon.
01:15But before that, the royal pardon, of course, is what is left of the prison sentence that was issued in your case.
01:28In the context of the case, we will not discuss the case itself or the sides of the case.
01:33We will discuss what is left after this royal pardon and the executions that Suleiman carried out.
01:38But before that, if you allow me, and to share with the viewers,
01:42I have a number of guests with me.
01:44This is the first time I am giving them an introduction.
01:47With Suleiman, I would like to give an introduction to the series,
01:51how Suleiman entered the press,
01:53and how he became one of the prominent press names in Morocco,
01:58and in the world,
02:00and how he became the subject of national and international attention,
02:06and how he spoke about institutions, organizations, and even foreign institutions.
02:13Suleiman, you were born in Al-Araish and Al-Qasr Al-Kabir.
02:19Exactly.
02:20In 1972.
02:22In 1972, with three classes in Al-Araish.
02:26Yes.
02:27You were brought up and raised in Al-Qasr Al-Kabir and Al-Araish.
02:35Al-Qasr Al-Kabir.
02:36Yes, Al-Qasr Al-Kabir in a big way.
02:38Because Al-Araish is a part of the work of the Qur'an.
02:41Before the service, you were a member of the Moroccan Human Rights Association,
02:48in Al-Qasr Al-Kabir and Al-Araish.
02:50Yes, in Al-Qasr Al-Kabir.
02:53And you had a political experience in Al-Qasr Al-Kabir,
02:57with a radical leftist party.
03:00He was described as a radical.
03:03After Suleiman, you served at an early age.
03:07Relatively.
03:08Relatively.
03:09In the local universities, in the Khomeys Sahal University.
03:12Sahal.
03:13You were in the Khomeys Sahal University,
03:15but you were an employee,
03:18so you preferred to leave the service,
03:23for what?
03:24For the passion of journalism.
03:27Yes.
03:28You had your first local experience.
03:32Maybe it was a literary magazine,
03:35which you published,
03:37called Al-Ilah Al-Muysi, I think.
03:39And Amal Al-Akhdar.
03:40And Amal Al-Akhdar.
03:42Yes.
03:43They are the children of Al-Qasr Al-Kabir.
03:45Muysi is a well-known writer.
03:47And Amal Al-Akhdar.
03:48And others.
03:49There were others,
03:50but the one who was in Lourdes,
03:53who was in charge,
03:55his name was mentioned three times.
03:57There were two other creative people
04:00from the city and outside the city.
04:02And you had another experience,
04:04this is a literary magazine,
04:06but you had another experience in journalism,
04:08which you published in a newspaper called Chibato.
04:12What was its name?
04:15Chibato in Spanish means
04:17newspaper or newspaper.
04:19Yes.
04:20Yes.
04:21These experiences,
04:22after that,
04:23after that,
04:24and there was another experience,
04:25I forgot.
04:26It was Al-Hamish.
04:27Al-Hamish newspaper.
04:28It was a local newspaper.
04:30We can still say that Chibato
04:32was like a local newspaper,
04:34or a regional newspaper.
04:35It was related to Al-Qasr Al-Kabir.
04:37Al-Hamish was a local newspaper.
04:40We covered almost the whole of North Morocco.
04:44And it was,
04:46first of all,
04:47it was within the framework of one consciousness.
04:50We had a consciousness,
04:52a media consciousness,
04:53a political consciousness,
04:54a legal consciousness,
04:55that the side has its own privileges,
04:58and therefore,
04:59it has to act in a media way.
05:02And therefore,
05:03this was the driving idea
05:05for these two experiences.
05:08In addition,
05:09we also covered the political-national-official discussion
05:14that was about the side,
05:16or the side's side,
05:17if we had an opinion on it,
05:19or a position on it.
05:20And therefore,
05:21these two experiences came in this context
05:24to highlight the specialties,
05:28the field,
05:30of the side.
05:32And in parallel with these experiences,
05:35Suleiman was always a self-formed person,
05:38he was always reading.
05:39For example,
05:40we know that Suleiman,
05:41in a short period of time,
05:42or in one of the periods of his university,
05:44of one of the students,
05:45for example,
05:46let's look at 2000-2004,
05:48or maybe 2000-2005-2006,
05:51that Suleiman had his own home library.
05:54And they used his library
05:57to organize cultural magazines,
06:00and therefore,
06:01in parallel with the newspaper experiences
06:04that were being created,
06:05and were not continuing,
06:06Suleiman was always reading,
06:07or a self-formed person,
06:08a self-formed person,
06:09especially in the field of journalism.
06:11These experiences were not continuing.
06:13Yes,
06:14this is about the side media experiences,
06:18the serious ones.
06:20You see,
06:21if we talk in a normal way
06:25about the side media experiences,
06:27they were divided into two parts.
06:30There were experiences
06:31that were supported by the electors,
06:33or the authorities.
06:35They guaranteed the continuity conditions
06:39and the continuity resources
06:41from the side that was behind them.
06:43Then,
06:44they were just the doors for these sides,
06:47and there was a critical press,
06:50with the same critical spirit
06:51that I aimed to create.
06:53Of course,
06:54I didn't graduate from Samir
06:55for these reasons,
06:56because our concern was not
06:59to develop a newspaper,
07:01so I felt that this was secondary
07:03to the concern of guaranteeing
07:05the quantity of funding,
07:07because the sales are known
07:09in the paper newspaper,
07:10even nationally,
07:11that don't guarantee continuity.
07:13The model of the Moroccan newspaper
07:15was always publicity,
07:16or a specific side,
07:18or the support of the state.
07:19We didn't have this,
07:20we didn't have publicity,
07:21we didn't have the support of the state.
07:22We were always looking for
07:24two opponents
07:26who might have this concern
07:28of the side media,
07:29but rarely,
07:30and very rarely,
07:31you find them.
07:32You didn't graduate from Samir,
07:33because after you quit your job,
07:35after these experiences,
07:37you started to have
07:39national experiences.
07:41In the beginning,
07:42maybe Nishan was the...
07:43Before I quit my job.
07:45Before you quit your job.
07:46Yes, I worked for Nishan
07:48for a long time,
07:49more than a year,
07:50while I was an employee,
07:51and after that I graduated.
07:52You cooperated with her
07:53from Iraq, right?
07:54No,
07:55I was present,
07:56every week,
07:57I was present
07:58at the Liberation Front.
07:59I was there
08:00and I was able to move
08:01once a week
08:02from Al-Araish
08:03to Dar al-Rida,
08:04and I gathered with her
08:05to liberate Nishan,
08:06then I returned
08:07to my work,
08:08and I worked
08:09in parallel
08:10with my work
08:11as an employee,
08:12as a collaborator
08:13with Nishan,
08:14and I also worked
08:15in the tragedy trial
08:16through the first magazine,
08:17and I was also an employee.
08:18The first magazine
08:19in the tragedy trial.
08:20And I was also an employee
08:21before I joined it.
08:22Before I quit my job
08:23and joined professionally
08:24in the first magazine,
08:25I was an employee
08:26in the tragedy trial,
08:27and I was also an employee
08:28before I joined it.
08:29And I was also an employee
08:30in the first magazine,
08:31and I was also an employee
08:32in the first magazine.
08:33And in your involvement
08:34with the magazine,
08:35and the issue
08:36that was among
08:37the media experiences
08:38that emerged
08:39after,
08:40in light of the new era
08:41of independent experiences,
08:42like the first magazine,
08:43like the other magazine,
08:44I was one of the magazines
08:45that when I was in the market,
08:46I was going to
08:47highlight
08:48Suleiman's name
08:49in a big way,
08:50and I was going to
08:51get to know Suleiman
08:52in one of the phases
08:53of what was called
08:54the Arab Spring,
08:55when he was going
08:56to be the first
08:57Moroccan journalist
08:58to enter
08:59Bab Al-Aziziya.
09:00Yes.
09:01What is Bab Al-Aziziya?
09:02He was the first
09:03Moroccan journalist,
09:04and the first Arab journalist,
09:05because I entered
09:06Tripoli,
09:07and the island
09:08was still in Benghazi.
09:09He meant
09:10Bab Al-Aziziya
09:11and the palace
09:12built by Qaddafi.
09:13Qaddafi.
09:14I entered
09:15my bedroom
09:16and took pictures.
09:17In your bedroom?
09:18Of course.
09:19I went to many
09:20of the palaces,
09:21but no,
09:22when I entered
09:23Tripoli,
09:24the island
09:25was still
09:26owned
09:27by
09:28Al-Baqali,
09:29who I met
09:30in Tripoli.
09:31I met him
09:32in Tripoli.
09:33He was still
09:34in...
09:35Mohammed Al-Baqali.
09:36Mohammed Al-Baqali.
09:37Mohammed Al-Baqali.
09:38I think he was
09:39still in Benghazi,
09:40because it was
09:41very difficult
09:42to enter
09:43Tripoli,
09:44because I
09:45entered Tripoli
09:46and the two
09:47sides were
09:48still at odds.
09:49Qaddafi was still
09:50in his palace.
09:51Qaddafi was still
09:52in his palace.
09:53I entered
09:54Tripoli
09:55and Qaddafi
09:56was still
09:57in his palace.
09:58What kept
09:59you going?
10:00What did
10:01public press
10:02do
10:03to become
10:04interested
10:05enough
10:06to go
10:07into a
10:08foreign country
10:09and
10:10be shot
10:11down
10:12by the
10:13NATO
10:14from the
10:15bottom
10:16instead
10:17of
10:18the top
10:19of the
10:20top.
10:21What made
10:22you
10:23go to
10:24Tripoli?
10:25In the history of the Middle East, North Africa, and the Arab world, this is a historical event.
10:34A historical event that is unprecedented.
10:42We should cover it, just like we covered it in Morocco during the march of the 20th of February.
10:50We should cover it, just like we covered it in Morocco during the march of the 20th of February.
11:00We should cover it, just like we covered it in Morocco during the march of the 20th of February.
11:10We should cover it, just like we covered it in Morocco during the march of the 20th of February.
11:20We should cover it, just like we covered it in Morocco during the march of the 20th of February.
11:30In Libya, there is no country that I have not been to.
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