Los equipos de emergencia asistieron a 90 pasajeros, 30 de ellos con heridas graves fueron trasladados a hospitales. La investigación sobre el robo y venta del cobre aún no ha avanzado.
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00:00No, amigo, estamos vivos de milagro, amigo.
00:30We left Retiro to Morris.
00:46The train derailed.
00:51It was very...
00:53It was very strong.
00:55What wagon were you in?
00:56The last one.
00:57How was the derailleur?
01:20Pretty strong, very strong, pretty strong because imagine, in the last wagon, a man
01:26hit himself and this whole part broke against the door.
01:31We have no fatal victims.
01:45The dogs have combed, the wagon more complicated.
01:48We have assisted a total of 90 passengers, 30 of which, with red codes, are already in
01:56the different hospitals of the city government, conveniently attended, two of them with
02:01skull trauma, to improve their attention, we have evacuated them in helicopters.
02:08Well, surely you remember this episode, I wouldn't even call it an accident, it was
02:17almost, I would say, a miracle, that he did not have more deaths.
02:22The train collided, but as a result of the lack of signaling, and why was there a lack
02:27of signaling?
02:28The signaling was being done manually, because the cables had been stolen and in the first
02:32moments of the government, of Javier Milei, there was still a thing of, well, you have
02:38to cut and there is no money and so on, and those cables had been stolen to sell the
02:45copper.
02:46There are a lot of things that end up in that accident, so to speak, in some way.
02:53But the investigation did not advance towards those who stole the copper or sold the copper,
02:57let's say they were marginal, close to neighborhood 31, nor did it advance towards the lack of
03:04repositioning of those cables, and who had decided that the system would continue to operate
03:08manually, but it advanced towards the mechanics, it advanced towards there.
03:14Rodolfo Baque is precisely the lawyer of the mechanics accused in this accident,
03:21to put it in some way.
03:23Why did the cause only advance towards there?
03:26Because Argentina de los Perejiles is still rolling.
03:32It is absurd that the first calls to inquiry in this cause are the mechanics.
03:37Let's remind people that it was a train that was going with a locomotive without passengers,
03:45that a system called OBC stops it when it passes more than 30 kilometers or when the
03:50system wants, because of the cloudy days, the days that the system fails, because in this
03:56Argentina de locos, that system is contracted to Brazil via a satellite, then the locomotives
04:02When it's cloudy it doesn't work, it's like DirecTV, well, or many times it stops because it depends
04:11on the satellite, the locomotive is connected to the satellite, and when the satellite detects
04:15that the cargo trains, because the Argentine railways are not in charge, currently built
04:21to support more than 30 kilometers per hour, it stops it, but it can stop it
04:25because it wants to.
04:26So it stopped that train that carried a driver, an assistant and a guard, well, the guard
04:33was also called to inquiry, we don't know why, to inquiry, accused, yes, yes, of course,
04:41there are vague indications to suspect that the guard did something, well, behind it came
04:46a train with passengers so that people know, let's clarify that it was a repair wagon,
04:52they took them to repair, it went without people, without anyone, of course, the locomotive and behind another
05:01fire locomotive to repair at home, behind it came a train with passengers that works
05:09as follows until December of last year and a week after the accident, a week
05:16later, it was like the old people's wagons, written down, follow, advance, stop, and they gave
05:24the driver a paper where it said go to the next station, that until December of last year
05:32there was an automatic signaling system where if there is an obstacle that stops the system
05:38because the cables were stolen and for lack of investment and because Mogueta, the secretary
05:44of transport, did not pay attention or provide the resources in the face of the claims of the railway union,
05:49Milu, who is the director at that time of Argentine trains, as well as I speak badly, I am going to talk
05:56well about the current director of Argentine trains for now and for now, then the cables were stolen
06:02or the automatic signaling was broken from December and it did not work, everything with papers,
06:08stop, stop, you have to say that the driver was going to a station, they gave him a paper and said go to the next one,
06:15it was a treasure hunt, exactly, it is not a joke, this is how they took the Argentines and they take us to
06:23other things that the other day I come and I tell you the other irregularities that they have to
06:26endure today because this that happened can happen again for now under other circumstances
06:30So, the machine stops in front of him, he stops, and there's something that, when we work as a team, it's called the beginning of trust.
06:40You go into the air because you trust that the camera is going to take you. The camera points at you thinking that the director...
06:46So, there's a whole series of trust. The driver, when they give him the paper, he continues.
06:51The first driver, as he had a braking system, he wasn't trained because it wasn't a train that he had to drive.
06:58They gave him that train to take him, and he got on.
07:01And he braked.
07:02And he braked. If it was for greater speed, or because the satellite, or the system hired in Brazil by OBC,
07:09remember this name, OBC of the system, the OBC system of the Brazilian company, braked him, we don't know.
07:16What justice did was call the mechanics and the guards.
07:20But what is it for? To end up in the matter of human error.
07:25Exactly.
07:26Which is to cut the thread as thin as possible.
07:28Now, how is there going to be human error in a mechanic if the automatic marking system...
07:34That's been proven.
07:35That's been proven in the case, it's in the requirement...
07:37Which was the system that said...
07:38Yes, but, and here comes the irreducible paradox of this Argentina, because I could say, well,
07:44Mogueta, Luque didn't do anything, Mogueta didn't do anything, truth.
07:49I could say, Caputo sent the money, I'm already starting to cut the chain, look.
07:53My law as responsible in that chainsaw that arrived, I'm going to say, I'm going to leave it out today.
07:58Why? Because the week they repaired it, Rolo.
08:02The money was there and never stopped working.
08:05The money was there, the electronic elements were there, the human ability to repair it was there.
08:12What does justice do?
08:14That there are cases for me, you know, I'm defending the nurse in the Maradona case,
08:20which gives me pleasure to defend, beyond the passion.
08:23This is a case, it gives me pleasure to defend people from a union such as the fraternity,
08:29but it annoys me that they call you first, because you can start an investigation,
08:33so that people know, or from below or from above.
08:36Ah, well.
08:37You choose.
08:38It's the federal justice of Comodoro Piz, please.
08:40You choose where.
08:41Where does the federal justice start? It never starts with the powerful, it always starts with the peregiles.
08:44I hope this time it was like a right of defense, because sometimes you too, as a right of defense,
08:49then I'm still going to leave the doubt.
08:51If a trial comes, yes.
08:53There, yes, I'm going to scream.
08:54Because you can call and climb.
08:57So far, they are only staff, workers, day to day.
09:01But in the same way that the machinists and even the guard are impeached.
09:05Yes.
09:06Did they impeach any officials?
09:07No.
09:08Ah, well.
09:09No, no, no.
09:10Now everything is clear to me.
09:11Not yet.
09:12Let's see if it goes up.
09:14It has to go up, I repeat, to Mogueta at least, by Luque, who was the director, the president of Trenes.
09:22Yes.
09:23For now, they put the magnifying glass on the peregiles.
09:26In a guard, who goes in a commotor, in a car behind, who is being taken by remolque.
09:31Indicatory quote on the day of the date.