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00:04:02donald trump now up against a new

00:04:04opponent the candidates separated by the

00:04:06smallest of margins essentially tied in

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00:04:23campaign kamala harris

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00:04:40here now david muir and lindsey davis

00:04:46good evening i'm david muir and thank

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00:04:49news presidential debate we want to

00:04:51welcome viewers watching on abc

00:04:53and around the world tonight vice

00:04:54president kamala harris and president

00:04:56donald trump are just moments away from

00:04:58taking the stage in this unprecedented

00:05:00race for president and i'm lindsey

00:05:02davis tonight's meeting could be the

00:05:03most consequential event of their

00:05:05campaigns with election day now less

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00:05:08for vice president kamala harris this is

00:05:10her first debate since president biden

00:05:12withdrew from the race on july 21st

00:05:14of course that decision followed his

00:05:16debate against president donald trump in

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00:05:18since then this race has taken on an

00:05:20entirely new dynamic and that brings us

00:05:22to the rules of tonight's debate 90

00:05:24minutes with two commercial breaks no

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00:05:30answer questions and this is the clock

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00:05:49who have never met president trump won

00:05:51the coin toss he chose to deliver the

00:05:53final closing statement of the evening

00:05:55vice president harris selected the

00:05:57podium to the right so let's now welcome

00:05:59the candidates to the stage vice

00:06:00president kamala harris and president

00:06:02donald trump

00:06:10kamala harris what's up good debate you

00:06:13see you have fun

00:06:13thank you welcome to you both it's

00:06:16wonderful to have you it's an honor to

00:06:18have you both here tonight

00:06:19good evening we are looking forward to a

00:06:21spirited and thoughtful debate so let's

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00:06:24i want to begin tonight with the issue

00:06:26that voters repeatedly say is their

00:06:27number one issue and that is the economy

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00:06:32vice president harris you and president

00:06:33trump were elected four years ago and

00:06:35your opponent on the stage here tonight

00:06:37often asks his supporters are you better

00:06:39off than you were four years ago

00:06:41when it comes to the economy do you

00:06:43believe americans are better off than

00:06:44they were four years ago

00:06:46so i was raised as a middle-class kid

00:06:50and i am actually the only person on

00:06:53this stage who has a plan that is about

00:06:55lifting up the middle class and working

00:06:56people of america

00:06:58i believe in the ambition the

00:07:00aspirations the dreams of the american

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00:07:03and that is why i imagine and have

00:07:06actually a plan to build what i call an

00:07:08opportunity economy

00:07:09because here's the thing we know that we

00:07:12have a

00:07:12shortage of homes and housing and the

00:07:15cost of housing is too expensive for far

00:07:17too many people

00:07:18we know that young families need

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00:07:21to raise their children and i intend on

00:07:24extending

00:07:25a tax cut for those families of six

00:07:27thousand dollars which is the largest

00:07:29child tax credit that we have given in a

00:07:31long time so that those young families

00:07:34can afford to buy a crib

00:07:35buy a car seat buy clothes for their

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00:07:39my passion one of them is small

00:07:42businesses i was actually

00:07:43my mother raised my sister and me but

00:07:46there was a woman who helped raise us we

00:07:47call her our second mother she was a

00:07:49small business owner i love our small

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00:07:52my plan is to give a fifty thousand

00:07:54dollar tax deduction

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00:07:59they are part of the backbone of

00:08:00america's economy

00:08:02my opponent on the other hand his plan

00:08:04is to do what he has done before which

00:08:07is to provide a tax cut for billionaires

00:08:09and big corporations which will result

00:08:12in five trillion dollars to america's

00:08:14deficit

00:08:15my opponent has a plan that i call the

00:08:17trump's sales tax

00:08:18which would be a twenty percent tax on

00:08:21everyday goods that you rely on to get

00:08:24through the month

00:08:25economists have said that that trump

00:08:28sales tax would actually result

00:08:30for middle-class families in about four

00:08:32thousand dollars more

00:08:34a year because of his policies and his

00:08:37ideas

00:08:38about what should be the backs of

00:08:41middle-class people paying

00:08:43for tax cuts for billionaires president

00:08:46trump i'll give you two minutes

00:08:47first of all i have no sales tax that's

00:08:49an incorrect statement she knows that

00:08:51we're doing tariffs on other countries

00:08:53other countries are going to finally

00:08:55after

00:08:5675 years pay us back for all that we've

00:08:58done for the world

00:09:00and the tariff will be substantial in

00:09:02some cases i took in billions and

00:09:04billions of dollars as you know from

00:09:06china

00:09:06in fact they never took the tariff off

00:09:08because it was so much money they can't

00:09:10it would totally destroy everything that

00:09:12they've set out to do

00:09:13they're taking in billions of dollars

00:09:15from china and other places they've left

00:09:17the tariffs on

00:09:18when i had it i had tariffs and yet i

00:09:20had no inflation

00:09:21look we've had a terrible economy

00:09:24because inflation has which is really

00:09:26known as a country buster it breaks up

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00:09:29we have inflation like very few people

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00:09:32probably the worst in our nation's

00:09:34history we were at 21 percent but that's

00:09:37being generous because many things are

00:09:3950 60 70 and 80 percent higher

00:09:41than they were just a few years ago this

00:09:44has been a disaster for people for the

00:09:46middle class but for every class

00:09:48on top of that we have millions of

00:09:50people pouring into our country from

00:09:52prisons and jails from mental

00:09:54institutions and insane asylums

00:09:56and they're coming in and they're taking

00:09:59jobs that are occupied right now by

00:10:01african-americans and hispanics

00:10:03and also unions unions are going to be

00:10:05affected very soon

00:10:07and you see what's happening you see

00:10:08what's happening with towns throughout

00:10:10the united states you look at

00:10:11springfield ohio you look at aurora

00:10:14in colorado they are taking over the

00:10:17towns they're taking over buildings

00:10:18they're going in violently

00:10:20these are the people that she and biden

00:10:24led into our country and they're

00:10:26destroying our country

00:10:27they're dangerous they're at the highest

00:10:29level of criminality

00:10:31and we have to get them out we have to

00:10:32get them out fast i created one of the

00:10:35greatest economies in the history of our

00:10:37country

00:10:38i'll do it again and even better we are

00:10:40going to get to immigration and border

00:10:41security during this debate but

00:10:43i would like to let vice president

00:10:45harris respond on the economy here well

00:10:47i would love to let's talk about what

00:10:50donald trump

00:10:51left us donald trump left us the worst

00:10:55unemployment since the great depression

00:10:58donald trump left us the worst public

00:11:00health

00:11:02epidemic in a century donald trump

00:11:05left us the worst attack on our

00:11:08democracy

00:11:09since the civil war and what we have

00:11:13done is clean up donald trump's mess

00:11:15what we have done and what i intend to

00:11:17do is build

00:11:19on what we know are the aspirations and

00:11:21the hopes of the american people but i'm

00:11:22going to tell you all in this debate

00:11:23tonight

00:11:24you're going to hear from the same old

00:11:26tired playbook

00:11:28a bunch of lies grievances and name

00:11:31calling

00:11:31what you're going to hear tonight is a

00:11:34detailed

00:11:35and dangerous plan called project 2025

00:11:38that the former president intends on

00:11:40implementing if he were

00:11:41elected again i believe very strongly

00:11:45that the american people want a

00:11:47president who understands the importance

00:11:49of bringing us together know we have so

00:11:51much more in common than what separates

00:11:53us

00:11:54and i pledge to you to be a president

00:11:56for all americans president trump will

00:11:58give you a minute here to respond

00:11:59number one i have nothing to do as you

00:12:00know and as she knows better than anyone

00:12:02i have nothing to do with

00:12:03project 2025 that's out there i haven't

00:12:07read it i don't want to read it

00:12:08purposely i'm not going to read it this

00:12:10was a group of people that got together

00:12:12they came up with some ideas i guess

00:12:13some good some bad

00:12:15but it makes no difference i have

00:12:16nothing to do everybody knows i'm an

00:12:18open book everybody knows what i'm going

00:12:20to do cut taxes very substantially

00:12:22and create a great economy like i did

00:12:24before we had the greatest economy we

00:12:26got hit with a pandemic

00:12:28and the pandemic was not since 1917

00:12:31where 100 million people died

00:12:33has there been anything like it we did a

00:12:34phenomenal job with the pandemic

00:12:37we handed them over a country where the

00:12:40economy and where the stock market was

00:12:42higher than it was before the pandemic

00:12:44came in

00:12:45nobody's ever seen anything like it we

00:12:47made ventilators for the entire world we

00:12:50got gowns we got masks we did things that

00:12:52nobody thought possible

00:12:53and people give me credit for rebuilding

00:12:55the military they give me credit for a

00:12:57lot of things

00:12:58but not enough credit for the great job

00:13:00we did with the pandemic but the only

00:13:02jobs they got were bounce back jobs these

00:13:04were jobs

00:13:05bounce back and it bounced back and it

00:13:06went to their benefit

00:13:08but i was the one that created them

00:13:10they know it and so does everybody else

00:13:11vice president harris i'll let you

00:13:12respond

00:13:14so donald trump has no plan for you

00:13:18and when you look at his economic plan

00:13:20it's all about tax breaks for the richest

00:13:22people

00:13:23i am offering what i describe as an

00:13:26opportunity economy

00:13:28and the best economists in our country

00:13:30if not the world

00:13:31have reviewed our relative plans for the

00:13:34future of america

00:13:36what goldman sachs has said is that

00:13:38donald trump's plan

00:13:40would make the economy worst mine would

00:13:42strengthen the economy

00:13:43what the wharton school has said is

00:13:45donald trump's plan

00:13:47would actually explode the deficit

00:13:5016 nobel laureates have described

00:13:53his economic plan as something that

00:13:55would increase

00:13:56inflation and by the middle of next year

00:13:59would invite a recession

00:14:01you just have to look at where we are

00:14:03and where we stand on the issues and i'd

00:14:05invite you to know

00:14:06that donald trump actually has no plan

00:14:09for you

00:14:10because he is more interested in

00:14:11defending himself than he is in looking

00:14:14out for you

00:14:15that's just a soundbite they gave her

00:14:16that to say look

00:14:18i went to the wharton school of finance

00:14:20and many of those professors the top

00:14:22professors

00:14:22think my plan is a brilliant plan it's a

00:14:24great plan it's a plan that's going to

00:14:26bring up our our worth our value as a

00:14:29country it's going to make

00:14:30people want to be able to go and work

00:14:32and create jobs and create a lot of

00:14:35good solid money for our company for our

00:14:37country

00:14:38just to finish off she doesn't have a

00:14:41plan

00:14:42she copied biden's plan and it's like

00:14:45four

00:14:46sentences like run spot run four

00:14:49sentences that are just

00:14:50oh we'll try and lower taxes she doesn't

00:14:53have a plan take a look at her plan

00:14:55she doesn't have a plan mr president i

00:14:57do want to drill down on something you

00:14:58both brought up

00:14:59the vice president brought up your

00:15:01tariffs you responded and let's drill

00:15:03down on this because

00:15:04your plan is what she calls is

00:15:06essentially a national sales tax your

00:15:08proposal calls for tariffs as you

00:15:09pointed out here

00:15:10on foreign imports across the board you

00:15:12recently said that you might double your

00:15:14plan imposing

00:15:15tariffs up to 20 percent on goods coming

00:15:17into this country

00:15:18as you know many economists say that

00:15:19with tariffs at that level costs are

00:15:21then passed on to the consumer

00:15:23vice president harris has argued it'll

00:15:25mean higher prices on gas

00:15:26food clothing medication arguing it

00:15:29costs the typical family nearly four

00:15:31thousand dollars a year

00:15:32do you believe americans can afford

00:15:34higher prices because of tariffs they're

00:15:36not going to have higher prices what's

00:15:37going to happen who's going to have

00:15:38higher prices is china

00:15:40and all of the countries that have been

00:15:42ripping us off for years

00:15:44i charge i was the only president ever

00:15:46china was paying us hundreds of billions

00:15:49of dollars and so were other countries

00:15:51and you know if she doesn't like them

00:15:53they should have gone out and they

00:15:54should have immediately cut the tariffs

00:15:56but those tariffs are there three and a

00:15:57half years now

00:15:58under their administration we are going

00:16:01to take in

00:16:02billions of dollars hundreds of

00:16:04billions of dollars

00:16:06i had no inflation virtually no

00:16:08inflation they had the highest inflation

00:16:10perhaps in the history of our country

00:16:12because i've never seen a worse period

00:16:14of time

00:16:14people can't go out and buy cereal or

00:16:16bacon or eggs or anything else

00:16:19these the people of our country are

00:16:21absolutely dying with what they've done

00:16:24they've destroyed the economy and all

00:16:26you have to do is look at a poll

00:16:27the polls say 80 and 85 and even 90

00:16:31percent

00:16:31that the trump economy was great that

00:16:33their economy was terrible

00:16:35vice president harris i do want to ask

00:16:37for your response and you heard what the

00:16:38president said there because the biden

00:16:39administration did keep

00:16:41a number of the trump tariffs in place

00:16:43so how do you respond

00:16:44well let's be clear that the trump

00:16:46administration resulted in a trade

00:16:48deficit one of the highest we've ever

00:16:50seen in the history of america

00:16:52he invited trade wars you want to talk

00:16:55about his

00:16:56deal with china what he ended up doing

00:16:58is under donald trump's presidency

00:17:01he ended up selling american chips

00:17:04to china to help them improve and

00:17:07modernize their military

00:17:09basically sold us out when a policy

00:17:12about china should be

00:17:14in making sure the united states of

00:17:16america wins the competition for the

00:17:1821st century

00:17:19which means focusing on the details of

00:17:21what that requires

00:17:23focusing on relationships with our

00:17:25allies focusing on investing in

00:17:27american-based technology

00:17:28so that we win the race on ai on quantum

00:17:32computing

00:17:33focusing on what we need to do to

00:17:35support america's workforce

00:17:37so that we don't end up having the on

00:17:39the short end of the stick

00:17:41in terms of workers rights but what

00:17:44donald trump did let's talk about this

00:17:46with kovid is he actually thanked

00:17:49president xi for what he did during

00:17:51kovid look at his tweet

00:17:53thank you president xi exclamation point

00:17:56when we know that she was responsible

00:17:59for lacking and not giving us

00:18:01transparency about the

00:18:03origins of kovid president trump i'll

00:18:05let you respond first of all they bought

00:18:06their chips from

00:18:08taiwan we hardly make chips anymore

00:18:10because of

00:18:11philosophies like they have and policies

00:18:14like

00:18:14they have i don't say her because she

00:18:16has no policy everything

00:18:18that she believed three years ago and

00:18:20four years ago is out the window

00:18:22she's going to my philosophy now in fact

00:18:24i was going to send her a mega hat

00:18:26she's gone to my philosophy but if she

00:18:28ever got elected she'd change it

00:18:30and it will be the end of our country

00:18:33she's a marxist everybody knows she's a

00:18:35marxist her father's a marxist professor

00:18:38in economics

00:18:39and he taught her well but when you look

00:18:41at what she's done to our country

00:18:43and when you look at these millions and

00:18:46millions of people that are pouring into

00:18:47our country

00:18:48monthly where it's i believe 21 million

00:18:51people not the 15 that people say

00:18:53and i think it's a lot higher than the

00:18:5421 that's bigger than new york state

00:18:57pouring in

00:18:58and just look at what they're doing to

00:18:59our country

00:19:00they're criminals many of these people

00:19:02coming in are criminals and that's bad

00:19:04for our economy too you know you

00:19:06mentioned before we'll talk about

00:19:07immigration later

00:19:08well bad immigration is the worst thing

00:19:10that can happen to our economy

00:19:12they have and she has destroyed

00:19:16our country with policy that's insane

00:19:19almost policy that you'd say they have

00:19:21to hate our country president trump

00:19:23thank you lindsey i want to turn to the

00:19:25issue of abortion president trump you've

00:19:27often touted that you were able to kill

00:19:29roe v wade

00:19:30last year you said that you were proud

00:19:32to be the most pro-life president in

00:19:34american history

00:19:36then last month you said that your

00:19:37administration would be great for women

00:19:39and their reproductive rights

00:19:41in your home state of florida you

00:19:42surprised many with regard to your six

00:19:45week abortion ban because you initially

00:19:46had said

00:19:47that it was too short and you said quote

00:19:49i'm going to be voting that we need more

00:19:51than six weeks but then

00:19:52the very next day you reversed course

00:19:55and said you would vote to support the

00:19:56six-week ban

00:19:58vice president harris says that women

00:20:00shouldn't trust you on the issue of

00:20:02abortion because

00:20:03you've changed your position so many

00:20:05times therefore

00:20:06why should they trust well the reason

00:20:08i'm doing that vote is because

00:20:10the plan is as you know the voters they

00:20:12have

00:20:13abortion in the ninth month they even

00:20:16have and you can look at the governor

00:20:17of west virginia the previous governor

00:20:19of west virginia not the current

00:20:21governor is doing an excellent job

00:20:23but the governor before he said the baby

00:20:26will be born

00:20:27and we will decide what to do with the

00:20:28baby in other words we'll execute the

00:20:30baby

00:20:30and that's why i did that because that

00:20:33predominates because they're radical the

00:20:35democrats are radical in that

00:20:37and her vice presidential pick which i

00:20:39think is a horrible pick by the way for

00:20:41our country

00:20:42because he is really out of it but her

00:20:44vice presidential pick says

00:20:46abortion in the ninth month is

00:20:48absolutely fine he also says execution

00:20:52after birth it's execution no longer

00:20:54abortion because the baby is born

00:20:56is okay and that's not okay with me

00:20:59hence the vote but what i did is

00:21:01something

00:21:02for 52 years they've been trying to get

00:21:04roe v wade

00:21:06into the states and through the

00:21:10genius and and heart and strength

00:21:13of six supreme court justices

00:21:16we were able to do that now i believe in

00:21:18the exceptions for

00:21:19rape incest and life of the mother i

00:21:22believe strongly in it ronald reagan did

00:21:24also

00:21:2485 percent of republicans do exceptions

00:21:27very important

00:21:28but we were able to get it and now

00:21:30states are voting on it

00:21:32and for the first time you're going to

00:21:34see look this is

00:21:35an issue that's torn our country apart

00:21:38for 52 years

00:21:40every legal scholar every democrat every

00:21:43republican

00:21:44liberal conservative they all wanted

00:21:46this issue to be brought back to the

00:21:48states where the people could vote

00:21:49and that's what happened happened now

00:21:52ohio

00:21:53the vote was somewhat liberal kansas

00:21:56the vote was somewhat liberal much more

00:21:57liberal than people would have thought

00:21:59but each individual state is voting

00:22:02it's the vote of the people now it's

00:22:04not tied up in the federal government

00:22:06i did a great service in doing it it

00:22:07took courage to do it and the supreme

00:22:09court had great courage in doing it

00:22:11and i give tremendous credit to those

00:22:13six justices

00:22:15there is no state in this country where

00:22:16it is legal to kill a baby

00:22:18after it's born madam vice president

00:22:20want to get your response to president

00:22:21trump

00:22:22well as i said you're going to hear a

00:22:23bunch of lies and that's not actually a

00:22:25surprising fact

00:22:27let's understand how we got here donald

00:22:30trump

00:22:31hand selected three members of the

00:22:33united states supreme court with the

00:22:35intention

00:22:35that they would undo the protections of

00:22:37roe v wade

00:22:39and they did exactly as he intended and

00:22:41now in

00:22:42over 20 states there are trump

00:22:45abortion bans which make it

00:22:48criminal for a doctor or nurse to

00:22:51provide health care in one state

00:22:53it provides prison for life trump

00:22:56abortion bans that make no exception

00:22:58even for rape and incest which

00:22:59understand what that means a survivor of

00:23:02a crime

00:23:03a violation to their body does not have

00:23:06the right to make a decision about what

00:23:08happens

00:23:08to their body next that is immoral

00:23:12and one does not have to abandon their

00:23:14faith

00:23:15or deeply held beliefs to agree the

00:23:18government

00:23:19and donald trump certainly should not be

00:23:21telling a woman what to do

00:23:23with her body i have talked with women

00:23:26around our country you want to talk

00:23:29about this is what people wanted

00:23:31pregnant women who want to carry a

00:23:34pregnancy to term

00:23:35suffering from a miscarriage being

00:23:37denied care in an emergency room because

00:23:39the health care providers

00:23:41are afraid they might go to jail and

00:23:43she's bleeding out in a car in the

00:23:44parking lot

00:23:46she didn't want that her husband didn't

00:23:48want that

00:23:49a 12 or 13 year old survivor of incest

00:23:52being forced to carry a pregnancy to

00:23:54term

00:23:56they don't want that and i pledge to you

00:24:00when congress passes a bill to put back

00:24:03in place the protections of roe v wade

00:24:05as president of the united states i will

00:24:07proudly

00:24:08sign it in to law but understand

00:24:12if donald trump were to be re-elected he

00:24:15will sign a national abortion ban

00:24:17understand in his project 2025 there

00:24:19would be a national abortion

00:24:21a monitor that would be monitoring your

00:24:23pregnancies your miscarriages

00:24:25i think the american people believe that

00:24:28certain freedoms

00:24:30in particular the freedom to make

00:24:32decisions about one's own body

00:24:34should not be made by the government

00:24:36thank you vice president harris well

00:24:38there she goes again

00:24:39it's a lie i'm not signing a ban and

00:24:42there's no reason to sign a ban because

00:24:44we've gotten what everybody wanted

00:24:46democrats republicans and everybody else

00:24:50and every legal scholar wanted it to be

00:24:52brought back into the states and the

00:24:54states are voting

00:24:55and it may take a little time but for 52

00:24:58years this issue

00:25:00has torn our country apart and they've

00:25:03wanted it back in the states and i did

00:25:05something that nobody thought was

00:25:07possible

00:25:08the states are now voting what she says

00:25:11is an absolute lie and as far as the

00:25:13abortion ban

00:25:15no i'm not in favor of abortion ban but

00:25:17it doesn't matter

00:25:18because this issue has now been taken

00:25:20over by the states would you veto a

00:25:22national abortion ban if it well i won't

00:25:24have to because again

00:25:26two things number one she said she'll go

00:25:28back to congress she'll never get the

00:25:29vote it's impossible for her to get the

00:25:31vote

00:25:31especially now with the 50 50 and

00:25:34essentially 50 50 in both

00:25:36senate and the house she's not going to

00:25:38get the vote she can't get the vote she

00:25:39won't even come close to it so it's just

00:25:41talk

00:25:42you know what it reminds me of when they

00:25:43said they're going to get student loans

00:25:45terminated and it ended up being a total

00:25:47catastrophe

00:25:48the student loans and then her i think

00:25:51probably her boss

00:25:53if you call him a boss he spends all his

00:25:54time on the beach but look

00:25:56her boss went out and said we'll do it

00:25:58again we'll do it a different way and he

00:26:00went out

00:26:00got rejected again by the supreme court

00:26:03so all these students got

00:26:05taunted with this whole thing about this

00:26:07whole idea

00:26:08and how unfair that would have been part

00:26:10of the reason they lost

00:26:11to the millions and millions of people

00:26:14that had to pay off their student loans

00:26:16they didn't get it for free but they

00:26:17were saying it's the same way that they

00:26:20talked about that

00:26:21that they talk about abortion but if i

00:26:23could just get a yes or no because

00:26:24you're running me

00:26:25jenna jd vance has said that you would

00:26:27veto

00:26:28if you did come to your desk well i

00:26:29didn't discuss it with jd in all fairness

00:26:32jd and i i don't mind if he has a

00:26:35certain view but i think he was speaking

00:26:36for me but

00:26:37i really didn't look we don't have to

00:26:40discuss it because

00:26:41she'd never be able to get it just like

00:26:43she couldn't get student loans they

00:26:44couldn't get student loans they didn't

00:26:45even come close to getting student loans

00:26:47they taunted young people and a lot of

00:26:50other people that had loans

00:26:52they can never get this approved so it

00:26:53doesn't matter what she says about going

00:26:55to congress so wonderful let's go to

00:26:56congress do it

00:26:58but the fact is that for years they

00:26:59wanted to get it out of congress and out

00:27:01of the federal government

00:27:02and we did something that everybody said

00:27:04couldn't be done and now

00:27:06you have a vote of the people on

00:27:07abortion vice president harris want to

00:27:09give you your time to respond but i do

00:27:11want to ask would you support

00:27:12any restrictions on a woman's right to

00:27:14an abortion i absolutely support

00:27:17reinstating the protections of roe v

00:27:19wade

00:27:19and as you rightly mentioned nowhere in

00:27:23america

00:27:25is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term

00:27:28and and asking for an abortion that is

00:27:31not happening it's insulting

00:27:33to the women of america and understand

00:27:35what has been happening under donald

00:27:37trump's abortion bans

00:27:39couples who pray and and and dream of

00:27:43having a family

00:27:44are being denied ivf treatments what is

00:27:48happening in our country

00:27:50working people working women who are

00:27:53working one or two jobs

00:27:55who can barely afford child care as it

00:27:58is have to travel to another state

00:28:01to get on a plane sitting next to

00:28:03strangers

00:28:04to go and get the health care she needs

00:28:08barely can afford to do it and what you

00:28:10are putting her through

00:28:12is unconscionable and the people of

00:28:15america

00:28:16have not the majority of americans

00:28:18believe in a woman's right to make

00:28:20decisions about her own body

00:28:22and that is why in every state where

00:28:24this issue has been on the ballot in red

00:28:27and blue states both

00:28:28the people of america have voted for

00:28:30freedom vice president excuse me i have

00:28:32to respond

00:28:33another lie it's another lie i have been

00:28:36a leader

00:28:37on ivf with which is fertilization the

00:28:39ivf

00:28:40i have been a leader in fact when they

00:28:43got a very negative decision on ivf

00:28:46from the alabama courts i saw the people

00:28:48of alabama and the legislature two days

00:28:51later voted it in

00:28:52i've been a leader on it they know that

00:28:55and everybody else knows it

00:28:56i have been a leader on fertilization

00:28:59ivf and the other thing they

00:29:02you should ask will she allow abortion

00:29:05in the eighth month ninth month seventh

00:29:08month

00:29:08come on okay would you do that why don't

00:29:11you ask that question

00:29:13that's the problem would you because

00:29:14under roe v wade answer the question

00:29:16you could you could do abortions in the

00:29:18seventh month

00:29:19the eighth month the ninth month and

00:29:21probably after birth

00:29:22just look at the governor former

00:29:24governor of virginia

00:29:26the governor of virginia said we put the

00:29:28baby aside and then we determine what we

00:29:30want to do with the baby president trump

00:29:32thank you we're going to turn now to

00:29:33immigration and border security we know

00:29:35it's an issue that's important to

00:29:36republicans democrats voters across the

00:29:38board

00:29:39in this country vice president harris

00:29:41you were tasked by president biden with

00:29:43getting to the root causes of migration

00:29:44from central america

00:29:46we know that illegal border crossings

00:29:48reached a record high in the biden

00:29:49administration this past june

00:29:51president biden imposed tough new asylum

00:29:53restrictions we know the numbers since

00:29:55then have dropped

00:29:56significantly but my question to you

00:29:58tonight is why did the administration

00:30:00wait until six months before the election

00:30:02to act

00:30:03and would you have done anything

00:30:04differently from president biden on

00:30:06this so i'm the only person on this stage

00:30:08who has prosecuted transnational

00:30:10criminal organizations

00:30:11for the trafficking of guns drugs and

00:30:14human beings

00:30:16and let me say that the united states

00:30:18congress including some of the most

00:30:20conservative members of the united states

00:30:21senate

00:30:22came up with a border security bill

00:30:25which i supported and that bill would

00:30:28have put

00:30:281500 more border agents on the border to

00:30:31help those folks who are working there

00:30:33right now

00:30:34over time trying to do their job it

00:30:37would have allowed

00:30:38us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming

00:30:41into the united states

00:30:42i know there are so many families

00:30:43watching tonight who have been

00:30:45personally affected

00:30:46by the surge of fentanyl in our country

00:30:49that bill would have put more resources

00:30:51to allow us

00:30:52to prosecute transnational criminal

00:30:54organizations for trafficking in guns

00:30:56drugs and human beings but you know what

00:30:58happened

00:30:58to that bill donald trump got on the

00:31:01phone called up

00:31:02some folks in congress and said kill the

00:31:04bill and you know why

00:31:06because he'd prefer to run on a problem

00:31:08instead of fixing

00:31:10a problem and understand this comes

00:31:13at a time where the people of our

00:31:16country

00:31:17actually need a leader who engages in

00:31:20solutions

00:31:21who actually addresses the problems at

00:31:24hand

00:31:24but what we have in the former

00:31:26president is someone who would prefer to

00:31:28run on a problem

00:31:29instead of fixing a problem and i'll

00:31:31tell you something he's going to talk

00:31:32about immigration a lot tonight even

00:31:33when it's not the subject that is being

00:31:35raised

00:31:36and i'm going to actually do something

00:31:37really unusual and i'm going to invite

00:31:39you

00:31:40to attend one of donald trump's rallies

00:31:42because it's a really interesting thing

00:31:43to watch

00:31:44you will see during the course of his

00:31:46rallies he talks about fictional

00:31:47characters like hannibal lecter

00:31:50he will talk about when mills cause

00:31:52cancer

00:31:53and what you will also notice is that

00:31:55people start leaving his rallies

00:31:56early out of exhaustion and boredom

00:31:59and i will tell you the one thing you

00:32:01will not hear him talk about

00:32:02is you you will not hear him talk about

00:32:04your needs your dreams and your need and

00:32:07your desires

00:32:08and i'll tell you i believe you deserve

00:32:10a president who actually puts you first

00:32:13and i pledge to you that i will

00:32:14vice president harris thank you

00:32:16president trump on that point i want to

00:32:17get your response i would like to

00:32:18respond let me just ask though why did

00:32:20you try to

00:32:20kill that bill and successfully so that

00:32:22would have put thousands of additional

00:32:23agents and officers on the border first

00:32:25let me respond is to the rallies

00:32:27she said people start leaving people

00:32:29don't go to her rallies there's no

00:32:30reason to go

00:32:31and the people that do go she's bussing

00:32:33them in and paying them to be there

00:32:35and then showing them in a different

00:32:38light so

00:32:39she can't talk about that people don't

00:32:40leave my rallies we have the biggest

00:32:42rallies the most incredible rallies in

00:32:44the history of politics

00:32:45that's because people want to take their

00:32:47country back our country

00:32:49is being lost we're a failing nation and

00:32:52it happened

00:32:52three and a half years ago and what

00:32:55what's going on here you're going to end

00:32:57up in world war three just to go into

00:32:59another subject

00:33:00what they have done to our country by

00:33:02allowing these millions and millions of

00:33:04people to come into our country

00:33:06and look at what's happening to the

00:33:08towns all over the united states and a

00:33:10lot of towns don't want to talk it's not

00:33:11going to be aurora or springfield

00:33:13a lot of towns don't want to talk about

00:33:15it because they're so embarrassed by it

00:33:17in springfield they're eating the dogs

00:33:20the people that came in they're eating

00:33:22the cats

00:33:23they're eating they're eating the pets

00:33:26of the people that live there and this

00:33:29is what's happening

00:33:30in our country and it's a shame as far

00:33:33as

00:33:34rallies are concerned as far as the

00:33:36reason they go is they like what i say

00:33:39they want to bring our country back they

00:33:41want to make america great again it's

00:33:42very simple phrase

00:33:44make america great again she's

00:33:46destroying this country

00:33:47and if she becomes president this

00:33:49country doesn't have a chance of success

00:33:52not only success will end up being

00:33:54venezuela on steroids i just want to

00:33:57clarify here you bring up springfield

00:33:59ohio and abc news did reach out to the

00:34:01city manager there

00:34:02he told us there had been no credible

00:34:04reports of specific claims of pets being

00:34:06harmed

00:34:07injured or abused by individuals within

00:34:09the immigrant community all this people

00:34:11on television let me just say here this

00:34:12is the people on television say my dog

00:34:14was taken

00:34:15and used for food so maybe he said that

00:34:18and maybe that's a good thing to say for

00:34:20a city manager i'm not taking this from

00:34:21television but the people on television

00:34:23dog was eaten by the people that went

00:34:26there

00:34:27again the springfield city manager says

00:34:29there's no evidence of that vice

00:34:30president harris i'll let you respond to

00:34:31the rest of what you've heard

00:34:33you talk about extreme uh

00:34:36you know i this is i think one of the

00:34:39reasons why

00:34:40in this election i actually have the

00:34:42endorsement

00:34:44of 200 republicans who have formally

00:34:47worked with president bush

00:34:49mitt romney and john mccain including

00:34:52the endorsement of

00:34:54former vice president dick cheney and

00:34:56congress member

00:34:57liz cheney and if you want to really

00:35:00know

00:35:01the inside track on who the former

00:35:04president is

00:35:04if he didn't make it clear already just

00:35:07ask people who have worked with him

00:35:09his former chief of staff a four-star

00:35:11general

00:35:12has said he has contempt for the

00:35:13constitution of the united states

00:35:15his former national security advisor has

00:35:18said he is dangerous and

00:35:19unfit his former secretary of defense

00:35:23has said the nation the republic would

00:35:25never survive

00:35:26another trump term and when we

00:35:30listen to this kind of rhetoric when the

00:35:34issues that affect the american people

00:35:36are not being addressed

00:35:38i think the choice is clear in this

00:35:39election president trump will give you a

00:35:41quick minute to respond yeah

00:35:42uh thank you because when i hear that

00:35:46see i'm a different kind of a person i

00:35:48fired

00:35:49most of those people not so graciously

00:35:51they did

00:35:52bad things or a bad job i fired them

00:35:54they never fired one person

00:35:56they didn't fire anybody having to do

00:35:58with afghanistan and the taliban and the

00:36:0013 people

00:36:01who's who's were just killed viciously

00:36:04and violently killed and i got to know

00:36:06the parents and the family

00:36:08they didn't fire they should have fired

00:36:09all those generals all those top

00:36:12people because that was one of the most

00:36:13incompetently handled situations

00:36:15anybody has ever seen so when somebody

00:36:19does a bad job

00:36:20i fire them and you take a guy like

00:36:22esper he was no good i fired him so he

00:36:24writes a book another one writes a book

00:36:26because with me they can write books

00:36:28with nobody else can they

00:36:29but they have done such a poor job and

00:36:32they never

00:36:33fire anybody look at the economy look

00:36:36look at the inflation

00:36:37they didn't fire any of their economists

00:36:39they have the same people

00:36:40that's a good way not to have books

00:36:42written about you

00:36:43but just to finish i got more votes than

00:36:46any republican

00:36:47in history by far in fact

00:36:51i got more votes than any president

00:36:53sitting president

00:36:54in history by far let me continue on

00:36:58immigration it was what you wanted to

00:36:59talk about earlier so let's get back to

00:37:00your deportation

00:37:01uh proposal that the vice president has

00:37:04reacted to

00:37:05as well president trump you call this

00:37:07the largest domestic deportation

00:37:09operation in the history of our country

00:37:10you say you would use the national guard

00:37:12you say if things get out of control

00:37:13you'd have

00:37:14no problem using the u.s military

00:37:16you also said you would use local police

00:37:19how would you deport 11 million

00:37:21undocumented immigrants i know you

00:37:23you believe that number is much higher

00:37:25take us through this what does this look

00:37:27like will authorities be going door to

00:37:28door in this country yeah

00:37:30it is much higher because of them they

00:37:33allowed criminals

00:37:34many many millions of criminals they

00:37:36allowed terrorists they allowed

00:37:38common street criminals they allowed

00:37:40people to come in drug dealers to come

00:37:42into our country and they're now in the

00:37:44united states

00:37:45and told by their countries like

00:37:48venezuela

00:37:49don't ever come back or we're going to

00:37:51kill you do you know the crime in

00:37:53venezuela and crime in countries all

00:37:55over the world

00:37:56is way down you know why because they've

00:37:59taken their criminals off the street and

00:38:01they've given them to her

00:38:02to put into our country and this will be

00:38:05one of the greatest mistakes in history

00:38:08for them to allow

00:38:09and i think they probably did it because

00:38:11they think they're going to get votes

00:38:12but it's not worth it because they're

00:38:14they're destroying the fabric

00:38:16of our country by what they've done

00:38:18there's never been anything done like

00:38:20this at all they've destroyed the fabric

00:38:23of our country

00:38:24millions of people let in and all over

00:38:26the world

00:38:27crime is down all over the world except

00:38:29here crime here is up and through the

00:38:32roof

00:38:32despite their fraudulent statements that

00:38:34they made crime in this country is

00:38:36through the roof and we have a new form

00:38:38of crime it's called migrant crime

00:38:40and it's happening at levels that nobody

00:38:42thought possible president trump as you

00:38:44know the fbi says overall violent crime

00:38:46is actually coming down in this country

00:38:47but excuse me the fbi defraud they were

00:38:49defrauding statements

00:38:51they they didn't include the worst cities

00:38:53they didn't include the cities with the

00:38:55worst crime

00:38:56it was a a fraud just like their number

00:38:59of 818,000

00:39:00jobs that they said they created turned

00:39:02out to be a fraud president trump thank

00:39:04you i'll let you respond vice president

00:39:05well i think this is so rich

00:39:07coming from someone who has been

00:39:09prosecuted

00:39:11for national security crimes

00:39:14economic crimes election interference

00:39:18has been found liable for sexual assault

00:39:21and his next big court appearance is in

00:39:24november at his own criminal

00:39:26sentencing and let's be clear

00:39:29where each person stands on the issue of

00:39:32what is important about respect for the

00:39:34rule of law

00:39:36and respect for law enforcement the

00:39:38former vice president called

00:39:39for defunding federal law enforcement

00:39:4345,000 agents get this on the day after

00:39:46he was arraigned on 34

00:39:48felony counts so let's talk about what

00:39:51is important

00:39:52in this race it is important that we

00:39:54move forward

00:39:56that we turn the page on this

00:39:58same old tired rhetoric and address

00:40:02the needs of the american people address

00:40:05what we need to do

00:40:06about the housing shortage which i have

00:40:08a plan for

00:40:09address what we must do to support our

00:40:11small businesses

00:40:12address bringing down the price of

00:40:14groceries but

00:40:16frankly the american people are

00:40:18exhausted with this same old tired

00:40:20playbook

00:40:21vice president harris thank you excuse

00:40:23me every one of those cases

00:40:25was started by them against their

00:40:27political opponent and i'm winning most

00:40:29of them and i will win the rest on

00:40:31appeal

00:40:31and you saw that with the decision that

00:40:33came down just recently from the supreme

00:40:35court

00:40:36i'm winning most of them but those are

00:40:38cases it's called weaponization

00:40:40never happened in this country they

00:40:42weaponized the justice department every

00:40:44one of those cases

00:40:45was involved with the doj from atlanta

00:40:48and fawney willis

00:40:49to to the attorney general of new york

00:40:53and the da in new york

00:40:54every one of those cases and then they

00:40:57say oh

00:40:58he was he's a criminal they're the ones

00:41:00that made them

00:41:02go after me by the way joe biden was

00:41:04found essentially guilty on the

00:41:06documents case

00:41:07and what happened in my documents case

00:41:09they said oh that's the toughest of them

00:41:11all

00:41:11a complete and total victory two months

00:41:14ago it was thrown out

00:41:16it's weaponization and they used it and

00:41:18it's never happened in this country

00:41:20they used it to try and win an election

00:41:23they're fake cases president trump thank

00:41:25you a really quick response here vice

00:41:26president harris on this notion of

00:41:27weaponization of the justice department

00:41:29well let's talk about extreme and

00:41:31understand the context in which this

00:41:33election in 2024 is taking place the

00:41:36united states supreme court

00:41:38recently ruled that the former

00:41:40president would essentially be immune

00:41:42from any misconduct if he were to enter

00:41:45the white house again

00:41:46understand this is someone who has

00:41:48openly said he would terminate i'm

00:41:51quoting terminate

00:41:52the constitution of the united states

00:41:54that he would weaponize the department

00:41:57of justice against his political

00:41:59enemies someone who has openly

00:42:02expressed disdain for members of our

00:42:06military

00:42:06understand what it would mean if donald

00:42:09trump were back in the white house

00:42:10with no guardrails because certainly we

00:42:13know now the court won't stop him we

00:42:15know jd vance is not going to stop him

00:42:18it's up to the american people vice

00:42:20president thank you lindsey vice

00:42:22president harris in your last run for

00:42:24president

00:42:25this is the one that weaponized not me

00:42:28she weaponized i probably took a bullet

00:42:30to the head

00:42:32because of the things that they say

00:42:34about me they talk about

00:42:36democracy i'm a threat to democracy

00:42:38they're the threat to democracy with a

00:42:40fake russia russia russia investigation

00:42:43we do a lot that went nowhere we have a

00:42:44lot to get to lindsey vice president

00:42:46harris in your last run for president

00:42:48you said you wanted to ban fracking

00:42:50now you don't you wanted mandatory

00:42:52government buyback programs for assault

00:42:53weapons now your campaign

00:42:55says you don't you supported

00:42:56decriminalizing border crossings

00:42:59now you're taking a harder line i know

00:43:00you say that your values have not

00:43:02changed so then why have so many of your

00:43:05policy positions changed

00:43:07so my values have not changed and i'm

00:43:09going to discuss every

00:43:10one of the at least every point that

00:43:12you've made but in particular let's talk

00:43:13about fracking because we're here in

00:43:14pennsylvania i made that very clear in

00:43:162020

00:43:17i will not ban fracking i have not banned

00:43:20fracking as vice president united states

00:43:22and in fact

00:43:22i was the tie-breaking vote on the

00:43:25inflation reduction act

00:43:26which opened new leases for fracking

00:43:30my position is that we have got to

00:43:33invest in diverse sources of energy so

00:43:36we reduce our reliance on foreign oil

00:43:39we have had the largest increase

00:43:43in domestic oil production in history

00:43:46because of an approach that recognizes

00:43:48that we cannot over rely on foreign oil

00:43:52as it relates to my values let me tell

00:43:53you i grew up a middle class kid

00:43:56raised by a hard-working mother who

00:43:59worked and saved and was able to buy our

00:44:01first home when i was a teenager

00:44:04the values i bring to the importance of

00:44:06home ownership knowing not everybody got

00:44:08handed

00:44:09400 million dollars on a silver platter

00:44:11and then filed bankruptcy six times

00:44:14is a value that i bring to my work to

00:44:16say we are going to

00:44:17work with the private sector and home

00:44:19builders to increase

00:44:21three million homes increased by three

00:44:23million homes by the end of my first

00:44:24term

00:44:25my work that is related to having

00:44:28a friend when i was in high school who

00:44:30was sexually assaulted by her

00:44:31stepfather

00:44:32and my focus then on protecting women

00:44:34and children from violent crime

00:44:36is based on a value that is deeply

00:44:38grounded in the importance

00:44:40of standing up for those who are most

00:44:42vulnerable my work

00:44:44that is about protecting social

00:44:45security and medicare is based on

00:44:48long-standing work that i have done

00:44:50protecting seniors from scams my

00:44:53values have not changed and what is

00:44:56important is that there is a president

00:44:58who actually brings

00:44:59values and a perspective that is about

00:45:02lifting people

00:45:03up and not beating people down

00:45:07and name calling the true measure of the

00:45:10leader

00:45:11is the leader who actually understands

00:45:14the strength is not in beating people

00:45:16down it's in lifting people up

00:45:18i intend to be that president president

00:45:21trump your first of all i wasn't given

00:45:22400

00:45:23million dollars i wish i was my father

00:45:25was a brooklyn builder brooklyn queens

00:45:27and a great father and i learned a lot

00:45:29from him but i was given a fraction of

00:45:30that a tiny fraction

00:45:31and i built it into many many billions

00:45:34of dollars many many billions

00:45:36and when people see it they are even

00:45:38surprised so we don't have to talk about

00:45:40that

00:45:40fracking she's been against it for 12

00:45:42years

00:45:44defund the police she's been against

00:45:46that forever

00:45:47she gave all that stuff up very wrongly

00:45:51very horribly and everybody's laughing

00:45:53at it okay they're all laughing at it

00:45:55she gave up at least 12 and probably

00:45:5814 or 15 different policies like

00:46:00she was big on defund the police in

00:46:03minnesota she went out wait a minute i'm

00:46:05talking now

00:46:06if you don't mind please does that sound

00:46:09familiar

00:46:12she went out she went out

00:46:15in minnesota and wanted to let criminals

00:46:18that killed people

00:46:19that burned down minneapolis she went

00:46:22out and raised money to get them out of

00:46:23jail

00:46:24she did things that nobody would ever

00:46:26think of now she wants to do

00:46:28transgender operations on illegal aliens

00:46:31that are in prison

00:46:32this is a radical left liberal that

00:46:35would do this

00:46:36she wants to confiscate your guns and

00:46:38she will never allow fracking in

00:46:40pennsylvania

00:46:41if she won the election fracking in

00:46:43pennsylvania will end on day one

00:46:45just to finish one thing so important in

00:46:48my opinion

00:46:49so i got the oil business going like

00:46:51nobody has ever done before

00:46:53they took when they took over they got

00:46:56rid of it started getting rid of it

00:46:57and the prices were going up the roof

00:47:01they immediately let these guys go to

00:47:04where they were

00:47:05i would have been five times four times

00:47:08five times higher because you're talking

00:47:10about three and a half years ago

00:47:11they got it up to where i was because

00:47:14they had no choice because the prices of

00:47:16energy would

00:47:17were quadrupling and doubling you saw

00:47:19what happened to gasoline

00:47:20so they said let's go back to trump but

00:47:22if she won the election the day after

00:47:24that election

00:47:26they'll go back to destroying our

00:47:27country and oil will be dead fossil fuel

00:47:29will be dead we'll go back to windmills

00:47:31and we'll go back to

00:47:32solar where they need a whole desert to

00:47:34get some energy to come out

00:47:36you ever see a solar plant by the way

00:47:38i'm a big fan of solar

00:47:39but they take 400 500 acres of desert

00:47:44soil

00:47:45these are not good things for the

00:47:47environment

00:47:48thank you lindsey thank you we have an

00:47:50election in just 56 days

00:47:52and i want to talk about the peaceful

00:47:54transfer of power which of course we all

00:47:56know is a cornerstone of our democracy

00:47:57and the role of a president

00:47:59in a moment of crisis mr president on

00:48:01january 6th you told your supporters to

00:48:03march to the capitol you said you would

00:48:05be right there with them

00:48:06the country and the world saw what

00:48:07played out of the capitol that day the

00:48:09officers

00:48:10coming under attack aids in the west

00:48:12wing say you watched it unfold on

00:48:13television off the oval office

00:48:15you did send out tweets but it was more

00:48:17than two hours before you sent out that

00:48:19video message

00:48:20telling your supporters to go home

00:48:22is there anything you regret about what

00:48:24you did on that day

00:48:26you just said a thing that isn't covered

00:48:29peacefully and patriotically i said

00:48:31during my speech not

00:48:33later on peacefully and patriotically

00:48:37and nobody on the other side was killed

00:48:39ashley babbitt was shot by an out of

00:48:42control police officer

00:48:43that should have never ever shot her

00:48:46it's a disgrace but we didn't do this

00:48:49group of people that have been treated

00:48:51so badly

00:48:52i ask what about all the people that are

00:48:55pouring into our country and killing

00:48:56people

00:48:57that she allowed to pour in she was the

00:48:58borders are remember that she

00:49:00was the borders are she doesn't want to

00:49:02be called the borders are because she's

00:49:03embarrassed by the border fact she said

00:49:05at the beginning

00:49:06oh i'm surprised you're not talking

00:49:07about the border yet that's because she

00:49:09knows what a bad job they've done

00:49:11what about those people what's what are

00:49:13they going to be prosecuted

00:49:15when are these people from countries all

00:49:17over the world not just south america

00:49:19they're coming in from all over the

00:49:22world david

00:49:23all over the world and crime rates are

00:49:25down all over the world because of it

00:49:27but let me just one of those

00:49:28david one of those people going to be

00:49:30prosecuted one of the people that burned

00:49:32down minneapolis going to be prosecuted

00:49:34or in seattle they went into seattle

00:49:36they took over a big percentage of the

00:49:38city of seattle

00:49:39one of those people going to be

00:49:40prosecuted but let me just ask you might

00:49:42ask her that question you were the

00:49:44president you were watching it unfold on

00:49:45television it's a very simple question

00:49:47as we move forward toward another

00:49:48election

00:49:49is there anything you regret about what

00:49:51you did on that day

00:49:53yes i had nothing to do with that other

00:49:55than they asked me to make a speech i

00:49:57showed up for a speech i said i think

00:49:59it's going to be big

00:50:00i went to nancy pelosi and the mayor of

00:50:02washington dc

00:50:04and the mayor put it back in writing as

00:50:06you know i said you know

00:50:08this is going to be a very big rally or

00:50:10whatever you want to call it

00:50:12and again it wasn't done by me it was

00:50:13done by others i said i'd like to give

00:50:16you 10 000 national guard or soldiers

00:50:19they rejected me nancy pelosi rejected

00:50:22me it was just

00:50:23two weeks ago her daughter has a tape of

00:50:25her saying she is fully responsible for

00:50:27what happened

00:50:28they want to get rid of that tape it

00:50:30would have never happened if nancy

00:50:32pelosi and the mayor of washington did

00:50:34their jobs

00:50:35i wasn't responsible for security nancy

00:50:38pelosi

00:50:38was responsible she didn't do her job

00:50:40the question was about you as president

00:50:42not about former speaker pelosi but i do

00:50:44want vice president harris to respond

00:50:45here

00:50:47i was at the capitol on january 6th i

00:50:50was

00:50:51the vice president elect i was also an

00:50:53acting senator

00:50:54i was there and on that day

00:50:57the president of the united states

00:50:59incited a violent mob

00:51:02to attack our nation's capital

00:51:06to desecrate our nation's capital on

00:51:09that day 140 law enforcement officers

00:51:12were injured

00:51:13and some died and understand

00:51:16the former president has been indicted

00:51:19and impeached

00:51:20for exactly that reason but this is not

00:51:23an isolated situation

00:51:26let's remember charlottesville where

00:51:29there was a mob of people carrying tiki

00:51:32torches

00:51:33spewing anti-semitic hate

00:51:36and what did the president then at the

00:51:39time say

00:51:40there were fine people on each side

00:51:43let's remember that when it came to the

00:51:46proud boys a militia

00:51:49the president said the former president

00:51:51said stand back and stand by

00:51:53so for everyone watching who remembers

00:51:56what january 6th was

00:51:59i say we don't have to go back

00:52:02let's not go back we're not going back

00:52:04it's time to turn the page

00:52:07and if that was a bridge too far for you

00:52:09well there is a place

00:52:11in our campaign for you to stand

00:52:15for country to stand for our democracy

00:52:19to stand for rule of law

00:52:21and to end the chaos and to end

00:52:25the approach that is about attacking the

00:52:28foundations of our democracy

00:52:30because you don't like the outcome and

00:52:32be clear on that point

00:52:35donald trump the candidate has said in

00:52:37this election there will be a

00:52:38bloodbath if this and the outcome of

00:52:41this election is not to his liking

00:52:45let's turn the page on this let's not go

00:52:47back

00:52:48let's chart a course for the future

00:52:51and not go backwards to the past let me

00:52:54just follow up here

00:52:56it was a different term and it was a

00:52:58term that related to energy because they

00:53:00have destroyed our energy business that

00:53:02was where bloodbath was

00:53:03also on charlottesville that story has

00:53:06been as you would say debunked

00:53:08laura ingram sean hannity jesse all of

00:53:12these people

00:53:13they covered it if they go an extra

00:53:15sentence they will see it was perfect

00:53:17it was debunked in almost every

00:53:19newspaper but they still bring it up

00:53:21just like they bring 2025 up

00:53:23they bring all of the stuff up i ask you

00:53:25this you talk about

00:53:26the capital why are we allowing

00:53:29these millions of people to come through

00:53:31on the southern border how come she's

00:53:33not doing anything

00:53:34and i'll tell you what i would do and i

00:53:35would be very proud to do it

00:53:37i would say we would both leave this

00:53:39debate right now

00:53:41i'd like to see her go down to

00:53:43washington dc during this debate because

00:53:45we're wasting a lot of time

00:53:47go down to because she's been so bad

00:53:49it's so ridiculous

00:53:50go down to washington dc and let her

00:53:53sign a bill to close up the border

00:53:55because they have the right to do it

00:53:56they don't need bills

00:53:58they have the right to do the president

00:53:59of the united states you'll get them out

00:54:01of bed you'll wake them up at four o'clock

00:54:03in the afternoon you'll say come on

00:54:04come on down to the office let's sign a

00:54:06bill

00:54:06if he if he signs a bill that the border

00:54:09is closed all he has to do is say it to

00:54:11the border

00:54:12patrol who are phenomenal if they do

00:54:14that the border is closed

00:54:16mr those people are killing many people

00:54:18unlike j6 we talked immigration here

00:54:20tonight i do want to

00:54:21focus on this next issue to both of you

00:54:23because it really brings us this into

00:54:25focus truth

00:54:26in these times that we're living in mr

00:54:28president for three and a half years

00:54:29after you lost the 2020 election you

00:54:32repeatedly

00:54:33falsely claimed that you won many times

00:54:35saying you won in a landslide

00:54:37in the past couple of weeks leading up

00:54:38to this debate you have said quote you

00:54:40lost by a whisker

00:54:42that you quote didn't quite make it that

00:54:43you came up a little bit short

00:54:45i said that are you now acknowledging

00:54:47that you lost in 2020

00:54:49acknowledge that at all i said that

00:54:50sarcastically you know that

00:54:52hey we said oh we lost by a whisker that

00:54:54was said sarcastically

00:54:56look there's so much proof all you have

00:54:58to do is look at it and they should have

00:55:00sent it back to the legislatures for

00:55:02approval

00:55:02i got almost 75 million votes the most

00:55:05votes any sitting president has ever

00:55:07gotten i was told if i got 63 which was

00:55:09what i got in 2016

00:55:11you can't be beaten the election people

00:55:14should never be thinking about an

00:55:15election is fraudulent we need two

00:55:17things we need walls

00:55:19we need and we have to have it we have

00:55:21to have borders

00:55:22and we have to have good elections our

00:55:24elections are bad

00:55:25and a lot of these illegal immigrants

00:55:27coming in they're trying to get them to

00:55:29vote they can't even speak english they

00:55:31don't even know what country they're in

00:55:32practically

00:55:33and these people are trying to get them

00:55:35to vote and that's why they're allowing

00:55:37them to come into our country i did watch

00:55:39all of these pieces of video

00:55:41i didn't detect the sarcasm lost by

00:55:43whisker we didn't quite make it

00:55:44and we should just point out here as

00:55:46clarification and you know this you and

00:55:47your allies 60 cases

00:55:49in front of many judges many of them

00:55:50no judge looked at it and said they said

00:55:52we didn't have standing

00:55:54that's the other thing they said we

00:55:56didn't have standing a technicality

00:55:58can you imagine a system where a person

00:56:00in an election doesn't have standing the

00:56:02president of the united states

00:56:04doesn't have standing that's how we lost

00:56:07if you look at the facts and i'd love to

00:56:09have you do a special on it

00:56:11i'll show you georgia and i'll show you

00:56:13wisconsin and i'll show you pennsylvania

00:56:16and i'll show you

00:56:17we have so many facts and statistics but

00:56:19you know what that doesn't matter

00:56:21because we have to solve the problem

00:56:23that we have right now that's old news

00:56:25and the problem that we have right now

00:56:27is we have a nation in decline

00:56:30and they have put it into decline we

00:56:32have a nation

00:56:33that is dying david mr president thank

00:56:36you uh vice president harris

00:56:37you heard the president there tonight he

00:56:39said he didn't say that that he lost by

00:56:40whisker so he still

00:56:41believes he did not lose the election

00:56:44that was won by president biden and

00:56:47yourself

00:56:48but i do want to ask you about something

00:56:49that's come up in the last couple of

00:56:50days this was a post from

00:56:52president trump about this upcoming

00:56:54election just weeks away he said when i

00:56:56win

00:56:56those people who cheated and then he

00:56:58lists donors voters election officials

00:57:00he says will be prosecuted to the fullest

00:57:02extent of the law

00:57:03which will include long-term prison

00:57:05sentences one of your campaign's top

00:57:07lawyers responded saying we won't let

00:57:09donald trump intimidate us

00:57:10we won't let him suppress the vote is

00:57:13that what you believe he's trying to do

00:57:14here

00:57:16donald trump was fired by 81 million

00:57:19people

00:57:20so let's be clear about that and clearly

00:57:22he is having a very difficult time

00:57:24processing that

00:57:25but we cannot afford to have a president

00:57:28of the united states

00:57:30who attempts as he did in the past

00:57:34to upend the will of the voters in a

00:57:36free and fair election

00:57:38and i'm going to tell you that i have

00:57:41traveled the world as vice president

00:57:43united states

00:57:44and world leaders are laughing at donald

00:57:47trump

00:57:48i have talked with military leaders some

00:57:50of whom work with you

00:57:52and they say you're a disgrace and when

00:57:55you then talk

00:57:56in this way in a presidential debate and

00:57:59deny

00:58:00what over and over again are court cases

00:58:03you have lost

00:58:05because you did in fact lose that

00:58:07election

00:58:08it leads one to believe that perhaps

00:58:11we do not have in the candidate to my

00:58:13right the temperament

00:58:15or or the ability to not be confused

00:58:19about fact that's deeply troubling and

00:58:22the american people deserve

00:58:24better i'll give you one minute to

00:58:26respond mr president let me just say

00:58:27about world leaders

00:58:29victor orban one of the most respected

00:58:31men they call him a strong man he's a

00:58:33he's a tough person

00:58:34smart prime minister of hungary they

00:58:37said why is the whole world

00:58:39blowing up three years ago it wasn't why

00:58:41is it blowing up

00:58:42he said because you need trump back as

00:58:46president

00:58:47they were afraid of him china was afraid

00:58:49and i don't like to use the word afraid

00:58:50but i'm just quoting him

00:58:52china was afraid of him north korea was

00:58:55afraid of him

00:58:56look at what's going on with north korea

00:58:57by the way he said

00:58:58russia was afraid of him i ended the

00:59:01nord stream 2 pipeline

00:59:02and biden put it back on day one but he

00:59:05ended the xl pipeline

00:59:07the xl pipeline in our country he ended

00:59:10that

00:59:11but he let the russians build a pipeline

00:59:13going all over europe and heading into

00:59:14germany the biggest pipeline

00:59:16in the world look victor orban

00:59:20said it he said the most respected most

00:59:23feared person

00:59:24is donald trump we had no problems when

00:59:27trump was president

00:59:28but when this weak pathetic man that

00:59:31you saw at a debate just a few months

00:59:34ago

00:59:34that if he weren't in that debate he'd

00:59:36be running instead of her she got no

00:59:37votes

00:59:38he got 14 million votes what you did you

00:59:40talk about a threat to democracy

00:59:42he got 14 million votes and they threw

00:59:44him out of office

00:59:45and you know what i'll give you a little

00:59:47secret he hates her he can't stand her

00:59:50but he got 14 million votes they threw

00:59:52him out

00:59:53she got zero votes and when she ran

00:59:56she was the first one to leave because

00:59:58she failed

00:59:59and now she's running i don't understand

01:00:01it but i'm okay with it because

01:00:03your time is up i think we're going to

01:00:04do very well we've got a lot more to get

01:00:05to turning now to the israel hamas war

01:00:08and the hostages who are still being

01:00:09held americans among them

01:00:11vice president harris in december you

01:00:13said quote israel has a right to defend

01:00:15itself but you added quote

01:00:17it matters how saying international

01:00:19humanitarian law must be respected

01:00:21israel must do more to protect innocent

01:00:23civilians

01:00:24you said that nine months ago now an

01:00:26estimated 40 000 palestinians are dead

01:00:29nearly 100 hostages remain just last

01:00:32week prime minister benjamin netanyahu

01:00:34said

01:00:35there's not a deal in the making

01:00:36president biden has not been able to

01:00:38break through the stalemate

01:00:40how would you do it well let's

01:00:43understand how we got here

01:00:44on october 7 hamas

01:00:48a terrorist organization

01:00:51slaughtered 1200 israelis many of them

01:00:55young people who are

01:00:56simply attending a concert women were

01:00:59horribly

01:00:59raped and so absolutely i said then i

01:01:02say now

01:01:03israel has a right to defend itself we

01:01:06would

01:01:07and how it does so matters because it is

01:01:10also true

01:01:11far too many innocent palestinians have

01:01:14been killed

01:01:16children mothers what we know

01:01:19is that this war must end

01:01:22it must win and immediately and the way

01:01:25it will end is we need a cease-fire deal

01:01:28and we need the hostages

01:01:29out and so we will continue to work

01:01:32around the clock

01:01:33on that work around the clock also

01:01:35understanding that we must

01:01:37chart a course for a two-state solution

01:01:40and in that solution there must be

01:01:44security for the israeli people and

01:01:46israel and in equal measure for the

01:01:48palestinians

01:01:49but the one thing i will assure you

01:01:50always i will always give israel the

01:01:53ability to defend

01:01:54itself in particular as it rates to it

01:01:57as it relates to iran

01:01:58and any threat that iran and its proxies

01:02:01pose to israel but we must have a

01:02:04two-state solution

01:02:05where we can rebuild gaza where the

01:02:07palestinians

01:02:09have security self-determination and the

01:02:11dignity they so rightly deserve

01:02:14president trump how would you negotiate

01:02:16with netanyahu

01:02:18and also hamas in order to get the

01:02:20hostages out and prevent the killing of

01:02:22more innocent civilians in gaza

01:02:24if i were president it would have never

01:02:26started if i were president

01:02:28russia would have never ever i know

01:02:31putin very well

01:02:32he would have never and there was no

01:02:33threat of it either by the way for four

01:02:35years

01:02:36have gone into ukraine and killed

01:02:38millions of people when you add it up

01:02:40far worse than people understand what's

01:02:42going on over there

01:02:43but when she mentions about israel all

01:02:46of a sudden

01:02:47she hates israel she wouldn't even meet

01:02:50with netanyahu

01:02:51when he went to congress to make a very

01:02:53important speech she refused to be there

01:02:55because she was at a sorority party

01:02:57of hers she wanted to go to the sorority

01:02:59party

01:03:00she hates israel if she's president i

01:03:03believe that israel will not exist

01:03:05within two years from now and i've been

01:03:07pretty good at predictions and i hope

01:03:08i'm wrong about that one

01:03:10she hates israel at the same time in her

01:03:12own way

01:03:13she hates the arab population because

01:03:17the whole place is going to get blown up

01:03:20arabs jewish people israel

01:03:23israel will be gone it would have never

01:03:26happened

01:03:27iran was broke under donald trump now

01:03:30iran has 300 billion dollars because

01:03:33they took off all the sanctions that i

01:03:34had

01:03:35iran had no money for hamas or hezbollah

01:03:38or any of the 28 different

01:03:40uh spheres of terror and they are spheres

01:03:43of terror

01:03:44horrible terror they had no money it was

01:03:46a big story and you know it you covered

01:03:48it very well actually

01:03:50they had no money for terror they were

01:03:53broke

01:03:54now they're a rich nation and now what

01:03:56they're doing is they're spreading that

01:03:58money around

01:04:00look at what's happening with the hutis

01:04:02and yemen

01:04:03look at what's going on in the middle

01:04:05east this would have never happened

01:04:07i will get that settled and fast and

01:04:09i'll get the war

01:04:10with ukraine and russia ended if i'm

01:04:13president-elect

01:04:14i'll get it done before even becoming

01:04:17president

01:04:18vice president harris he says you hate

01:04:20israel

01:04:21that's absolutely not true i have my

01:04:24entire career and life

01:04:25supported israel and the israeli people

01:04:28he knows that

01:04:29he's trying to again divide and and

01:04:32distract

01:04:33from the reality which is it is very

01:04:35well known

01:04:37that donald trump is weak and wrong on

01:04:40national security and foreign policy it

01:04:42is well known

01:04:43that he admires dictators wants to be a

01:04:46dictator on day one according to himself

01:04:49it is well known that he said of putin

01:04:53that he can do whatever the hell he

01:04:56wants and go into ukraine

01:04:58it is well known that he said when

01:05:01russia went into ukraine it was

01:05:03brilliant

01:05:04it is well known he exchanged love

01:05:07letters with kim jong-un

01:05:10and it is absolutely well known that

01:05:13these dictators

01:05:14and autocrats are rooting for you to be

01:05:17president again because they're so clear

01:05:19they can manipulate you with flattery

01:05:23and favors and that is why

01:05:27so many military leaders who you have

01:05:29worked with have told me

01:05:31you are a disgrace that is why

01:05:34we understand that we have to have a

01:05:36president who is not consistently

01:05:39weak and wrong on national security

01:05:41including the importance

01:05:43of upholding and respecting in highest

01:05:45regard our military

01:05:47vice president harris thank you they're

01:05:48the ones and she's the one

01:05:50that caused it that's weak or national

01:05:53security by allowing

01:05:54every nation last month for the year

01:05:57168 different countries

01:05:59sending people into our country their

01:06:01crime weights are way down

01:06:04putin endorsed her last week said i hope

01:06:06she wins and i think he meant it

01:06:08because what he's gotten away with is

01:06:10absolutely incredible it wouldn't have

01:06:12happened with me

01:06:14the leaders of other countries think

01:06:16that they're weak and incompetent and

01:06:18they are

01:06:19they're grossly incompetent and i just

01:06:21ask one question

01:06:23why does biden go in and kill the

01:06:24keystone pipeline and approve the single

01:06:27biggest deal that russia's ever made

01:06:29north stream to the biggest pipeline

01:06:31anywhere in the world going to germany

01:06:33and all over europe

01:06:34because they're weak and they're

01:06:36ineffective and biden by the way gets

01:06:38paid a lot of money thank you we have a

01:06:40lot of issues to get to we'll be right

01:06:41back with much more of this historic

01:06:43abc news presidential debate from the

01:06:45national constitution center right here

01:06:47in philadelphia back in a moment

01:06:55the abc news presidential debate will

01:06:57continue

01:06:58after this

01:07:11you

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01:08:11you

01:08:41you

01:09:11you

01:09:41you

01:10:11you

01:10:41you

01:11:12you

01:11:36live from the national constitution

01:11:39center in philadelphia pennsylvania

01:11:41here again david muir and lindsey davis

01:11:45welcome back to this historic abc news

01:11:47presidential debate tonight we're going

01:11:48to continue here and i want to turn to

01:11:50the war in ukraine we're now two and a

01:11:51half years

01:11:52into this conflict mr president it has

01:11:54been the position of the biden

01:11:55administration

01:11:56that we must defend ukraine from russia

01:11:58from vladimir putin to defend their

01:12:00sovereignty their democracy

01:12:02that it's in america's best interest to

01:12:03do so arguing that if putin wins

01:12:05he may be emboldened to move even

01:12:07further into other countries

01:12:08you have said you would solve this war

01:12:10in 24 hours you said so just before the

01:12:12break tonight

01:12:13how exactly would you do that and i

01:12:15want to ask you a very simple question

01:12:17tonight

01:12:17do you want ukraine to win this war i

01:12:20want the war to stop

01:12:22i want to save lives that are being

01:12:24uselessly

01:12:25people being killed by the millions

01:12:27it's the millions

01:12:29it's so much worse than the numbers

01:12:31that you're getting which are fake

01:12:32numbers

01:12:33look we're in for 250 billion or more

01:12:37because they don't ask europe which is a

01:12:40much bigger beneficiary to getting this

01:12:42thing done

01:12:43than we are they're in for 150 billion

01:12:46dollars less because biden

01:12:48and you don't have the courage to ask

01:12:51europe

01:12:52like i did with nato they paid billions

01:12:55and billions hundreds of billions of

01:12:56dollars when i said

01:12:58either you pay up or we're not going to

01:13:00protect you anymore so that's maybe one

01:13:01of the reasons i don't

01:13:03like me as much as they like weak people

01:13:05but

01:13:06you take a look at what's happening

01:13:08we're in for 250 to 275 billion

01:13:12they're into 100 to 150 they should be

01:13:15forced to equalize with that being said

01:13:19i want to get the war settled i know

01:13:20zalinsky very well and i know putin very

01:13:22well i have a good relationship and they

01:13:25respect

01:13:26your president okay they respect me they

01:13:28don't respect biden how would you

01:13:30respect him

01:13:31why for what reason he hasn't even made

01:13:33a phone call in two years to put hasn't

01:13:35spoken to anybody

01:13:36they don't even try and get it that is

01:13:38a war that's dying to be settled

01:13:40i will get it settled before i even

01:13:42become president if i win

01:13:44when i'm president-elect and what i'll

01:13:46do is i'll speak to one i'll speak to

01:13:49the other

01:13:49i'll get them together that war would

01:13:51have never happened

01:13:53and in fact when i saw putin after i

01:13:55left

01:13:56unfortunately left because our our

01:13:58country has gone to hell

01:14:00but after i left when i saw him building

01:14:02up soldiers he did it after i left

01:14:04i said oh he must be negotiating it must

01:14:07be a good strong point of negotiation

01:14:09well it wasn't because biden had no idea

01:14:12how to talk to him

01:14:13he had no idea how to stop it and now

01:14:16you have millions of people dead

01:14:18and it's only getting worse and it could

01:14:19lead to world war iii

01:14:21don't kid yourself david we're playing

01:14:23with world war iii

01:14:24and we have a president that we don't

01:14:26even know if he's where is our president

01:14:28we don't even know if he's a president

01:14:30and just to clarify he threw him out of

01:14:31a campaign like a dog we don't even know

01:14:34is he our president but we have a

01:14:36president mr president doesn't know he's

01:14:38alive

01:14:38your time is up with the just to

01:14:40clarify the question

01:14:42do you believe it's in the u.s best

01:14:43interest for ukraine to win this war yes

01:14:46or no i think it's the u.s best interest

01:14:47to get this war finished and

01:14:49just get it done all right negotiate a

01:14:51deal because we have to stop

01:14:53all of these human lives from being

01:14:56destroyed i want to take this device

01:14:57president harris i want to get your

01:14:58thoughts on

01:14:59support for ukraine in this moment but

01:15:02also

01:15:03as commander in chief if elected how

01:15:05would you deal with vladimir putin and

01:15:06would it be any different from what

01:15:08we're seeing from president biden

01:15:10well first of all it's important to

01:15:12remind the former president you're not

01:15:13running against joe biden you're running

01:15:15against me

01:15:17i believe the reason that donald trump

01:15:19says that this war would be over within

01:15:2224 hours is because he would just give

01:15:23it up

01:15:24and that's not who we are as americans

01:15:26let's understand what happened here

01:15:28um i actually met with zelensky

01:15:31a few days before russia invaded

01:15:34tried through force to change

01:15:37territorial boundaries

01:15:38to defy one of the most important

01:15:41international rules and norms

01:15:42which is the importance of sovereignty

01:15:44and territorial integrity

01:15:46and i met with president zelensky i

01:15:48shared with him american intelligence

01:15:50about how he could defend himself days

01:15:52later i went to nato's eastern flank

01:15:55to poland and romania and through

01:15:58the work that i and others did we brought

01:16:0050 countries together

01:16:02to support ukraine in its righteous

01:16:04defense

01:16:05and because of our support because of

01:16:08the

01:16:09air defense the ammunition the artillery

01:16:12the javelins the abrams tanks that we

01:16:15have provided

01:16:16ukraine stands as an independent and

01:16:18free country if donald trump were

01:16:20president

01:16:20putin would be sitting in kiev right now

01:16:23and understand what that would mean

01:16:25because putin's agenda

01:16:27is not just about ukraine understand

01:16:30why the european allies and our nato

01:16:33allies

01:16:33are so thankful that you are no longer

01:16:36president

01:16:37and that we understand the importance of

01:16:40the greatest military alliance the world

01:16:42has ever known which is nato

01:16:44and what we have done to preserve

01:16:47the ability of zelensky and the

01:16:49ukrainians to fight for their

01:16:50independence

01:16:51otherwise putin would be sitting in kiev

01:16:54with his eyes on the rest of europe

01:16:57starting with poland and why don't you

01:16:58tell the 800 000 polish americans

01:17:01right here in pennsylvania how quickly

01:17:03you would give up

01:17:05for the sake of favor and what you think

01:17:08is a friendship

01:17:09with what is known to be a dictator who

01:17:12would eat you for lunch

01:17:14vice president harris thank you we've

01:17:16heard from both of you on ukraine

01:17:17tonight afghanistan came up in the last

01:17:19hour

01:17:20i wanted her to respond to something you

01:17:21said earlier and i'll

01:17:23please i'll give you a minute here putin

01:17:26would be sitting in moscow

01:17:28and he wouldn't have lost 300 000 men

01:17:30and women but he would have been sitting

01:17:32in moscow

01:17:33quiet please he would have been sitting

01:17:36in moscow

01:17:38much happier than he is right now but

01:17:40eventually you know he's got a thing

01:17:42that

01:17:42other people don't have he's got nuclear

01:17:44weapons they don't ever talk about that

01:17:45he's got nuclear weapons

01:17:47nobody ever thinks about that and

01:17:49eventually

01:17:50maybe he'll use him and maybe hasn't

01:17:52been that threatening

01:17:54but he does have that something we don't

01:17:56even like to talk about

01:17:57nobody likes to talk about it but just

01:17:59so you understand

01:18:00they sent her to negotiate peace before

01:18:03this war started

01:18:04three days later he went in and he

01:18:07started the war

01:18:08because everything they said was weak

01:18:10and stupid they said the wrong things

01:18:13that war should have never started

01:18:15she was the emissary they sent her in to

01:18:17negotiate with

01:18:19zalinsky and putin and she did

01:18:22and the war started three days later

01:18:24and that's the kind of talent we have

01:18:26with her

01:18:26she's worse than biden in my opinion i

01:18:28think he's the worst president in the

01:18:30history of our country

01:18:31she goes down as the worst vice

01:18:33president in the history of our country

01:18:35but let me tell you something

01:18:36she is a horrible negotiator they sent

01:18:40her in to negotiate

01:18:41as soon as they left putin did the

01:18:43invasion president trump thank you did

01:18:45bring up something you said she went to

01:18:46negotiate with vladimir putin vice

01:18:48president harris have you ever met

01:18:49vladimir putin can you clarify tonight

01:18:51yet again i said at the beginning of

01:18:53this debate you're going to hear a bunch

01:18:54of lies coming from this fellow

01:18:56and that is another one when i went to

01:18:58meet with president zalinsky i've now

01:19:00met with him over five times

01:19:02the reality is it has been about

01:19:05standing as america always should

01:19:08as a leader upholding international

01:19:11rules and norms as a leader who shows

01:19:14strength

01:19:15understanding that the alliances we have

01:19:17around the world

01:19:19are dependent on our ability to look out

01:19:22for our friends

01:19:23and not favor our enemies because

01:19:26you adore strongmen instead of caring

01:19:29about

01:19:30democracy and that is very much what is

01:19:33at stake here

01:19:34the president of the united states is

01:19:36commander in chief

01:19:38and the american people have a right to

01:19:41rely

01:19:42on a president who understands the

01:19:45significance of america's role and

01:19:47responsibility

01:19:49in terms of ensuring that there is

01:19:51stability and ensuring we stand

01:19:53up for our principles and not sell them

01:19:56for the for the benefit of personal

01:19:59flattery

01:20:00we've talked about ukraine and

01:20:01vladimir putin i do want to talk about

01:20:03afghanistan it came up in in the first

01:20:05hour of this debate

01:20:06i i wanted to move on to afghanistan

01:20:08said trump did the most amazing thing

01:20:10i've ever seen

01:20:11he got these countries the 28 countries

01:20:14at the time

01:20:15to pay up he said i've never seen he's

01:20:17the head of nato

01:20:18he said i've never seen for years we

01:20:20were paying almost all of nato

01:20:23we were being ripped off by european

01:20:25nations both on trade and on nato

01:20:27i got them to pay up by saying one of

01:20:30the statements you made before

01:20:31if you don't pay we're not going to

01:20:33protect you otherwise we would have

01:20:35never gotten it

01:20:35he said it was one of the most

01:20:37incredible jobs that he's ever seen done

01:20:39thank you i want to turn to afghanistan

01:20:41it came up in the first hour of the

01:20:42debate

01:20:43and we witnessed a poignant moment today

01:20:45on capitol hill honoring the soldiers

01:20:46who died

01:20:47in the chaotic withdrawal from

01:20:48afghanistan i do want to ask the vice

01:20:50president

01:20:51do you believe you bear any

01:20:52responsibility in the way that withdrawal

01:20:55played out

01:20:56well i will tell you i agreed with

01:20:58president biden's decision

01:20:59to pull out of afghanistan four

01:21:02presidents

01:21:03said they would and joe biden did and as

01:21:06a result

01:21:07america's taxpayers are not paying the

01:21:09300 million dollars a day we were paying

01:21:11for that

01:21:12endless war and as of today

01:21:15there is not one member of the united

01:21:17states military who is in

01:21:19active duty in a combat zone in any war

01:21:23zone around the world the first time

01:21:24this century

01:21:25but let's understand how we got to where

01:21:28we are

01:21:29donald trump when he was president

01:21:31negotiated

01:21:32one of the weakest deals you can imagine

01:21:35he calls himself a deal maker

01:21:37even his national security advisor said

01:21:39it was a weak terrible deal and here's

01:21:42how it went down

01:21:43he bypassed the afghan government he

01:21:46negotiated directly with a terrorist

01:21:49organization called the taliban

01:21:51the negotiation involved the taliban

01:21:53getting 5,000

01:21:54terrorists taliban terrorists released

01:21:57and get this no get this

01:21:59and the president at the time invited

01:22:03the taliban to cap

01:22:04david a place of storied significance

01:22:08for us as americans a place where we

01:22:11honor the importance of american

01:22:13diplomacy where we invite and receive

01:22:17respected world leaders and

01:22:20this former president

01:22:23as president invited them to

01:22:27camp david because he does not again

01:22:30appreciate

01:22:31the role and responsibility

01:22:34of the president of the united states to

01:22:37be commander in chief with a level of

01:22:39respect

01:22:40and this gets back to the point of how

01:22:42he has consistently disparaged and

01:22:44demeaned

01:22:45members of our military fallen soldiers

01:22:49and the work that we must do to uphold

01:22:51the strength

01:22:52and the respect of the united states of

01:22:55america around the world vice president

01:22:56harris thank you president trump your

01:22:58response to her saying that you began

01:22:59the negotiations with the taliban

01:23:01so if you take a look at that period of

01:23:04time

01:23:05the taliban was killing our soldiers

01:23:08a lot of them with snipers and i got

01:23:12involved

01:23:12with the taliban because the taliban was

01:23:15doing the killing that's the fighting

01:23:16force within afghanistan they don't

01:23:18bother doing that because you know they

01:23:19deal with the wrong people all the time

01:23:21but i got involved and abdul

01:23:25is the head of the taliban he is still

01:23:27the head of the taliban

01:23:28and i told abdul don't do it anymore you

01:23:30do it anymore you're gonna have

01:23:32problems and he said why do you send me

01:23:34a picture of my house i said you're

01:23:35gonna have to figure that out abdul

01:23:37and for 18 months we had nobody killed

01:23:41we did have an agreement negotiated by

01:23:42mike pompeo

01:23:44it was a very good agreement the reason

01:23:46it was good it was we were getting out

01:23:48we would have been out faster than them

01:23:50but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers

01:23:51we wouldn't have left many americans

01:23:53behind and we wouldn't have left

01:23:55we wouldn't have left 85 billion dollars

01:23:58worth of brand new beautiful military

01:24:00equipment behind

01:24:01and just to finish they blew it

01:24:05the agreement said you have to do this

01:24:07this this this this

01:24:08and they didn't do it they didn't do it

01:24:11the agreement was was terminated by us

01:24:14because they didn't do what they were

01:24:17supposed to do

01:24:18i want to move and these people did the

01:24:20worst withdrawal

01:24:22and in my opinion the most embarrassing

01:24:24moment in the history of our country

01:24:26and by the way that's why russia attacked

01:24:28ukraine

01:24:29because they saw how incompetent she and

01:24:32her boss are

01:24:33president trump thank you i want to move

01:24:35on now to race and politics in this

01:24:37country

01:24:37mr president you recently said of vice

01:24:39president harris quote

01:24:40i didn't know she was black until a

01:24:42number of years ago when she happened to

01:24:44turn black

01:24:45and now she wants to be known as black i

01:24:47want to ask a bigger picture question

01:24:49here tonight

01:24:50why do you believe it's appropriate to

01:24:51weigh in on the racial identity of your

01:24:53opponent

01:24:54i don't and i don't care i don't care

01:24:56what she is i don't care

01:24:59you make a big deal out of something i

01:25:01couldn't care less

01:25:02whatever she wants to be is okay with me

01:25:04but those were your words so i don't

01:25:06know i don't know i mean all i can say

01:25:08is i read where she was

01:25:09not black that she put out and

01:25:13i'll say that and then i read that she

01:25:16was black

01:25:16and that's okay either one was okay with

01:25:18me that's up to her

01:25:20that's up to her vice president harris

01:25:22your thoughts on this

01:25:24i think it's i mean honestly i think it's

01:25:27a tragedy

01:25:28that we have someone who wants to be

01:25:31president who has

01:25:33consistently over the course of his

01:25:35career

01:25:36attempted to use race to divide the

01:25:38american people

01:25:40you know i do believe that the vast

01:25:41majority of us know that we have so much

01:25:43more in common than what separates us

01:25:44and we don't want

01:25:46this kind of approach that is just

01:25:48constantly trying to divide us and

01:25:50especially by race and let's remember

01:25:53how donald trump started he was a

01:25:58land he owned land he owned buildings

01:26:01and he was investigated because

01:26:04he refused to rent property

01:26:07to black families let's remember this

01:26:10is the same individual

01:26:12who took out a full page ad in the new

01:26:14york times

01:26:16calling for the execution of five

01:26:19young black and latino boys

01:26:22who were innocent the central park five

01:26:27took out a full page ad calling for

01:26:29their execution

01:26:30this is the same individual who spread

01:26:33birth or lies about the first black

01:26:35president of the united states

01:26:38and i think the american people want

01:26:41better than that

01:26:43want better than this want someone who

01:26:46understands as i do i travel our country

01:26:50we see in each other a friend we see in

01:26:53each other a neighbor

01:26:55we don't want a leader who is constantly

01:26:58trying to have americans point their

01:27:01fingers at each other

01:27:02i meet with people all the time who

01:27:05tell me

01:27:07can we please just have discourse about

01:27:10how we're going to invest in the

01:27:12aspirations and the ambitions and the

01:27:14dreams of the american people

01:27:16knowing that regardless of people's

01:27:18color or the language their grandmother

01:27:20speaks we all

01:27:21have the same dreams and aspirations and

01:27:23want a president

01:27:25who invest in those not in hate and

01:27:27division

01:27:28vice president harris thank you lindsey

01:27:30president trump this is now your third

01:27:32time

01:27:34this is the most divisive presidency in

01:27:37the history of our country

01:27:39there's never been anything like it

01:27:40they're destroying our country

01:27:42and they come up with things like what

01:27:45she just said

01:27:47going back many many years when a lot of

01:27:49people including mayor bloomberg agreed

01:27:51with me on the

01:27:52central park five they admitted they

01:27:54said they pled guilty

01:27:56and i said well if they pled guilty they

01:27:58badly hurt a person killed a person

01:28:00ultimately

01:28:02and if they pled guilty then they pled

01:28:04we're not guilty but this is a person

01:28:07that has to stretch back years 40 50

01:28:10years ago

01:28:11because there's nothing now i built one

01:28:13of the greatest economies in the history

01:28:15of the world

01:28:16and i'm going to build it again it's

01:28:18going to be bigger better and stronger

01:28:20but they're destroying our economy they

01:28:22have no idea what a good economy is

01:28:24their oil policies every single policy

01:28:27and remember this

01:28:29she is biting you know she's trying to

01:28:31get away from biden i don't know the

01:28:33gentleman she says

01:28:34she is biting the worst inflation we've

01:28:37ever had

01:28:38a horrible economy because inflation has

01:28:41made it so bad

01:28:43that you can't get away with that thank

01:28:44you your time is up i want to respond to

01:28:46that though i want to just respond

01:28:47briefly clearly i am not joe biden

01:28:52and i am certainly not donald trump

01:28:55and what i do offer is a new generation

01:28:57of leadership for our country

01:28:59one who believes in what is possible

01:29:02one who brings a sense of

01:29:04optimism about what we can do

01:29:07instead of always disparaging the

01:29:09american people

01:29:11i believe in what we can do to

01:29:14strengthen our small businesses which is

01:29:17why i have a plan let's talk about

01:29:19our plans and and let's compare the

01:29:22plans

01:29:23i have a plan to give startup businesses

01:29:27fifty thousand dollar tax deduction

01:29:30to pursue their ambitions their

01:29:32innovation their ideas

01:29:34their hard work i have a plan six

01:29:37thousand dollars

01:29:38for young families for the first year of

01:29:40your child's life

01:29:42to help you in that most critical stage

01:29:44of your child's development i have a

01:29:46plan

01:29:47that is about allowing people to be able

01:29:49to pursue

01:29:51what has been fleeting in terms of the

01:29:52american dream by offering

01:29:55a help with down payment of twenty five

01:29:57thousand dollar down payment assistance

01:29:59for first-time home buyers that's the

01:30:02kind of conversation i believe david

01:30:04that people really want tonight as

01:30:06opposed to a conversation that is

01:30:08constantly about belittling

01:30:11and name calling let's turn the page

01:30:14vice president harris forward thank you

01:30:16let's turn to policy let's turn we have

01:30:17to move on president trump

01:30:19let's turn to policy please she has a

01:30:21plan

01:30:21to defund the police she has a flat plan

01:30:24to confiscate everybody's gun president

01:30:27she has a plan

01:30:28to not allow fracking in pennsylvania or

01:30:31anywhere else okay that's what her plan

01:30:33is until just recently i just need to go

01:30:35ahead president trump president trump

01:30:37president has said something twice that

01:30:38i need to respond i'm sorry we're gonna

01:30:40we're gonna move on vice president

01:30:42president trump this is now your third

01:30:44time running for president you have long

01:30:46vowed to repeal and replace the

01:30:48affordable care act

01:30:49also known as obamacare you have failed

01:30:51to accomplish that you now say you're

01:30:53going to keep obamacare quote unless we

01:30:55can do something much better

01:30:57last month you said quote we're working

01:30:59on it so tonight

01:31:01nine years after you first started

01:31:02running do you have a plan

01:31:04and can you tell us what it is obamacare

01:31:06was lousy health care always was

01:31:09it's not very good today and what i said

01:31:11that if we come up with something and we

01:31:13are working on things

01:31:15we're going to do it and we're going to

01:31:16replace it but remember this

01:31:18i inherited obamacare because democrats

01:31:21wouldn't

01:31:21change it they wouldn't vote for it they

01:31:23were unanimous they wouldn't vote to

01:31:25change it

01:31:26if they would have done that we would

01:31:27have had a much better plan than

01:31:29obamacare

01:31:30but the democrats came up they wouldn't

01:31:32vote for it

01:31:33i had a choice to make when i was

01:31:34president do i save it and make it as

01:31:37good as it can be

01:31:38never going to be great or do i let it

01:31:41rot

01:31:42and i felt i had an obligation even

01:31:44though politically it would have been

01:31:45good to just let it rot and let it go

01:31:47away

01:31:48i decided and i told my people the top

01:31:50people and they're very good people i

01:31:52have a lot of good people in this that

01:31:53administration

01:31:54we read about the bad ones we had some

01:31:56real bad ones too and so do they they

01:31:58have really bad ones the difference is

01:31:59they don't get rid of them but let me

01:32:00just

01:32:01explain i had a choice to make do i save

01:32:04it and make it as good as it can be

01:32:06or do i let it rot and i saved it i did

01:32:09the right thing

01:32:11but it's still never going to be great

01:32:13and it's too expensive for people

01:32:15and what we will do is we're looking at

01:32:18different plans

01:32:19if we can come up with a plan that's

01:32:21going to cost our people

01:32:22our population less money and be better

01:32:25health care than obamacare

01:32:27then i would absolutely do it but until

01:32:30then i'd run it as good as it can be run

01:32:32so just a yes or no you still do not

01:32:34have a plan

01:32:35i have concepts of a plan i'm not

01:32:37president right now

01:32:39but if we come up with something i would

01:32:42only change it if we come up with

01:32:44something that's better and less

01:32:45expensive

01:32:46and there are concepts and options we we

01:32:49have

01:32:50to do that and you'll be hearing about

01:32:52it in the not too distant future

01:32:53vice president harris in 2017 you

01:32:56supported bernie sanders proposal to do

01:32:58away with private insurance and create a

01:32:59government-run health care system

01:33:01two years later you proposed a plan that

01:33:03included a private insurance option

01:33:05what is your plan today well first of

01:33:07all i absolutely

01:33:09support and over the last four years as

01:33:11vice president private health care

01:33:13options but

01:33:13what we need to do is maintain and grow

01:33:15the affordable care but i i'll get to

01:33:17that lindsay i just need to respond to a

01:33:19previous point that the former president

01:33:21has made

01:33:22i've made very clear my position on

01:33:23fracking and then this business about

01:33:25taking everyone's guns away

01:33:27tim walz and i are both gun owners we're

01:33:29not taking anybody's guns away so stop

01:33:31with the continuous lying about this

01:33:32stuff

01:33:34as it relates to the affordable care act

01:33:35understand let's just look at the

01:33:37history to know where people stand

01:33:39when donald trump was president 60 times

01:33:42he tried to get rid of the affordable

01:33:44care act 60 times i was a senator

01:33:48at the time when i will never forget the

01:33:51early morning

01:33:52hours when it was up for a vote in the

01:33:54united states senate

01:33:56and the late great john mccain who you

01:33:59have disparaged

01:34:02as being a you don't like him you said

01:34:05at the time because he got caught he was

01:34:07an american hero

01:34:09the late great john mccain i will never

01:34:11forget that night

01:34:12walked onto the senate floor and said no

01:34:15you don't

01:34:16no you don't no you don't get rid of the

01:34:19affordable character you have no plan

01:34:21and what the affordable care act has

01:34:23done is eliminate the ability

01:34:25of insurance companies to deny people

01:34:27with pre-existing conditions

01:34:29i don't have to tell the people watching

01:34:30tonight you remember what that was like

01:34:33remember when an insurance company could

01:34:35deny

01:34:36if a child had asthma if someone was a

01:34:39breast cancer survivor if a

01:34:41if a grandparent had diabetes and

01:34:44thankfully

01:34:45as i've been vice president and we over

01:34:47the last four years have strengthened

01:34:48the affordable care act

01:34:50we have allowed for the first time

01:34:51medicare to negotiate drug prices

01:34:53on behalf of you the american people

01:34:56donald trump said he was going to allow

01:34:57medicare to negotiate

01:34:59drug prices he never did we did and now

01:35:01we have capped the cost of insulin at

01:35:03thirty five dollars a month

01:35:04since i've been vice president we have

01:35:06capped the cost of prescription

01:35:07medication for seniors at two thousand

01:35:09dollars a year

01:35:10and when i am president we will do that

01:35:12for all people understanding

01:35:14that the value i bring to this is that

01:35:18access to health care should be a right

01:35:21and not just a privilege of those who

01:35:22can afford it

01:35:24and the plan has to be to strengthen the

01:35:27affordable care act

01:35:28not get rid of it vice president

01:35:31in terms of where donald trump stands on

01:35:32that i want to move to an issue that's

01:35:34important for a lot of mistake

01:35:36at number one john mccain fought

01:35:39obamacare for 10 years but it wasn't

01:35:42only him

01:35:42it was all of the democrats that kept it

01:35:45going

01:35:46and you know what we can do much better

01:35:49than obamacare much less money

01:35:51but she won't improve private insurance

01:35:54for people private medical insurance

01:35:57that's another thing she doesn't want to

01:35:58get people are paying privately for

01:36:00insurance

01:36:01that have worked hard and made money and

01:36:03they want to have private she wants

01:36:05everybody to be on government insurance

01:36:07where you wait

01:36:08six months for an operation that you

01:36:10need immediately president trump thank

01:36:12you we have another issue that we'd

01:36:13like to get to that's important for a

01:36:14number of americans in particular

01:36:16younger voters and that's climate change

01:36:18president trump with regard to the

01:36:20environment you say that we have to have

01:36:22clean air and clean water

01:36:24vice president harris you call climate

01:36:26change an existential threat

01:36:28the question to you both tonight is what

01:36:30would you do to fight climate change and

01:36:32vice president harris will start with

01:36:34you one minute for you each

01:36:35well the former president had said the

01:36:37climate change is a hoax

01:36:40and what we know is that it is very real

01:36:42you ask anyone who lives in a state who

01:36:44has

01:36:45experienced these extreme weather

01:36:46occurrences who now is either being

01:36:48denied home insurance or it's being

01:36:50jacked up

01:36:51you ask anybody who has been the victim

01:36:55of what that means in terms of losing

01:36:57their home

01:36:58having nowhere to go we know that we can

01:37:01actually

01:37:01deal with this issue the young people of

01:37:03america care deeply about this issue

01:37:05and i am proud that as vice president

01:37:07over the last four years

01:37:09we have invested a trillion dollars in a

01:37:11clean energy economy

01:37:13while we have also increased domestic

01:37:15gas production

01:37:16to historic levels we have created over

01:37:19800,000 new manufacturing jobs while i

01:37:22have been vice president

01:37:23we have invested in clean energy to the

01:37:26point that we are opening

01:37:28up factories around the world donald

01:37:30trump said he was going to create

01:37:31manufacturing jobs

01:37:32he lost manufacturing jobs and i'm also

01:37:35proud to have the endorsement of the

01:37:37united auto workers and sean fane

01:37:39who also know that part of building a

01:37:42clean energy economy

01:37:43includes investing in american made

01:37:46products

01:37:47american automobiles it includes

01:37:50growing what we can do around american

01:37:53manufacturing and

01:37:54opening up auto plants not closing them

01:37:57like happened under donald trump

01:37:58president harris thank you it didn't

01:38:00happen under donald trump let me just

01:38:01tell you they lost 10,000 manufacturing

01:38:04jobs

01:38:04this last month it's going they're all

01:38:07leaving

01:38:08they're building big auto plants in

01:38:10mexico in many cases

01:38:12owned by china they're building these

01:38:15massive plants and they think they're

01:38:16going to sell their cars into the united

01:38:18states because of

01:38:20these people what they have given to

01:38:22china is unbelievable

01:38:24but we're not going to let that we'll

01:38:25put tariffs on those cars so they can't

01:38:27come into our country

01:38:28because they will kill the united auto

01:38:31workers and any auto worker whether it's

01:38:33in detroit or south carolina or any

01:38:35other place

01:38:36what they've done to business and

01:38:38manufacturing in this country

01:38:40is horrible we have nothing because they

01:38:44they refuse

01:38:45you know biden doesn't go after people

01:38:47because supposedly china paid him

01:38:49millions of dollars he's afraid to do it

01:38:51between him and his son they get all

01:38:53this money from ukraine

01:38:54they get all this money from all of

01:38:56these different countries and then you

01:38:58wonder why is he so loyal to this one

01:39:00that one ukraine china

01:39:02why is he why did he get three and a

01:39:03half million dollars from the mayor of

01:39:06moscow's wife

01:39:07why did he get why did she pay him three

01:39:09and a half

01:39:10million dollars this is a crooked

01:39:13administration

01:39:14and they're selling our country down the

01:39:16tubes president trump thank you

01:39:18thank you we'll be right back with

01:39:19closing statements from both of our

01:39:21candidates an historic night this abc

01:39:22news presidential debate

01:39:24from philadelphia back in a moment

01:39:32the abc news presidential debate will

01:39:35continue

01:39:36after this

01:39:54you

01:40:24you

01:40:54you

01:41:24you

01:41:54you

01:42:24you

01:42:54you

01:43:24you

01:43:55you

01:44:12live from the national constitution

01:44:14center in philadelphia pennsylvania

01:44:17here again david muir and lindsey davis

01:44:21welcome back tonight the time has come

01:44:23for closing statements and vice

01:44:24president harris

01:44:25we begin with you so i think you've

01:44:28heard tonight

01:44:29two very different visions for our

01:44:32country

01:44:33one that is focused on the future and

01:44:36the other that is focused on the past

01:44:38and an attempt to take us backward

01:44:42but we're not going back and i do

01:44:44believe

01:44:45that the american people know we all

01:44:47have so much more in common than what

01:44:49separates us

01:44:50and we can chart a new way forward

01:44:53and a vision of that includes having a

01:44:56plan

01:44:57understanding the aspirations the

01:44:59dreams the hopes

01:45:01the ambition of the american people

01:45:03which is why

01:45:04i intend to create an opportunity

01:45:07economy

01:45:08investing in small businesses in new

01:45:11families

01:45:12in what we can do around protecting

01:45:14seniors what we can do that is about

01:45:17giving

01:45:18hard-working folks a break and bringing

01:45:20down the cost of living

01:45:21i believe in what we can do together

01:45:25that is about sustaining america

01:45:27standing in the world and ensuring that

01:45:29we have the respect

01:45:31that we so rightly deserve including

01:45:33respecting our military and ensuring we

01:45:36have the most lethal fighting force

01:45:38in the world i will be a president that

01:45:41will protect our fundamental rights and

01:45:42freedoms including the right of a woman

01:45:44to make decisions

01:45:46about her own body and not have her

01:45:48government

01:45:48tell her what to do i'll tell you i

01:45:51started my career as a prosecutor i was

01:45:53a d.a

01:45:54i was an attorney general a united

01:45:56states senator and now vice president

01:45:57i've only had one client

01:45:59the people and i'll tell you as a

01:46:01prosecutor i never

01:46:03asked a victim or a witness are you a

01:46:06republican or a democrat

01:46:08the only thing i ever asked them are you

01:46:10okay

01:46:12and that's the kind of president we need

01:46:14right now

01:46:15someone who cares about you and is not

01:46:17putting themselves

01:46:18first i intend to be a president for all

01:46:21americans

01:46:23and focus on what we can do over the

01:46:25next 10 and

01:46:2620 years to build back up our country by

01:46:29investing right now

01:46:31in you the american people vice

01:46:33president harris thank you president

01:46:35trump

01:46:37so she just started by saying she's

01:46:39going to do this she's going to do that

01:46:40she's going to do all these wonderful

01:46:42things

01:46:42why hasn't she done it she's been there

01:46:45for three and a half years

01:46:47they've had three and a half years to

01:46:49fix the border

01:46:50they've had three and a half years to

01:46:53create jobs and all the things we talked

01:46:55about

01:46:56why hasn't she done it she should leave

01:46:59right now go down to that beautiful

01:47:01white house go to the capital

01:47:03get everyone together and do the things

01:47:05you want to do but you haven't done it

01:47:06and you won't do it because you believe

01:47:08in things that

01:47:09the american people don't believe in you

01:47:11believe in

01:47:12things like we're not going to frack

01:47:14we're not going to take fossil fuel

01:47:16we're not going to do

01:47:17things that are going to make this

01:47:18country strong whether you like it or

01:47:20not

01:47:21germany tried that and within one year

01:47:23they were back to building

01:47:25normal energy plants we're not ready for

01:47:28it

01:47:29we can't sacrifice our country for the

01:47:32sake of bad vision

01:47:33but i just ask one simple question why

01:47:36didn't she do it we're a failing nation

01:47:40we're a nation that's in serious decline

01:47:43we're being laughed at all over the

01:47:45world all over the world they're left i

01:47:46know the leaders very well they're

01:47:48coming to see me

01:47:49they call me we're laughed at all over

01:47:52the world they don't understand what

01:47:53happened to us as a nation

01:47:55we're not a leader we don't have any

01:47:57idea what's going on

01:47:59we have wars going on in the middle east

01:48:01we have wars going on

01:48:03with russia and ukraine we're going to

01:48:05end up in a third world war and it'll be

01:48:08a war like no other because of nuclear

01:48:10weapons the power of weaponry

01:48:12i rebuilt our entire military she gave

01:48:16a lot of it away

01:48:17to the taliban she gave it to

01:48:19afghanistan

01:48:21what these people have done to our

01:48:23country and maybe toughest of all is

01:48:25allowing millions of

01:48:27people to come into our country many of

01:48:29them are criminals and they're destroying

01:48:31our country

01:48:32the worst president the worst vice

01:48:34president

01:48:35in the history of our country president

01:48:38trump thank you

01:48:39and that is our abc news presidential

01:48:42debate from here in philadelphia at the

01:48:44national constitution center

01:48:46i'm lindsey davis and i'm david muir

01:48:47thank you for watching here in the u.s

01:48:49and all over the world and from all of

01:48:50us here at abc news

01:48:52good night

01:49:12you

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