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Video Information: Vishranti Shivir, 09.06.2019, Bengaluru, India

Context:
~ Is it a good idea to move to another country to fight climate change?
~ How to tackle the population explosion?
~ How do we counter rising consumption?
~ Is controlling the population the answer?
~ Why is a dependent life necessary?


Music Credits: Milind Date
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Learning
Transcript
00:00What would happen in the old age?
00:08Now, we can say, you know, that we would be so capable that we would be able to see Yadavid
00:15Ashram.
00:16But practically, I see in my life that if my mother was there, she was sick, and if
00:24we were not there, then she would have a problem.
00:27Are you like your mother?
00:29Then why are you comparing?
00:32Your mother paid for a dependent life.
00:42Do you first of all want to be dependent?
00:45Then why are you weaving stories?
00:48But my father, he was...
00:50He too would have been dependent.
00:52Why do you want to be dependent in the first place?
00:54He wasn't.
00:55He's not dependent.
00:56He's...
00:57Then why does he need you?
00:58Are you a doctor?
00:59Yes, but...
01:00Are you a doctor?
01:01No.
01:02Then what would you do?
01:03But he does not...
01:04Yeah, but then...
01:06Because he spent all the money on us, now he does not have that.
01:09Don't do that.
01:11Don't spend all the money on five kids.
01:14Keep something for yourself and your old age.
01:21In old age, you need medicine, not sons.
01:27And if you want a caretaker, hire a nurse.
01:32That's right, because we all are living outside, they both are living alone and they are living
01:37good life.
01:43How many sons anyway return from abroad to take care of their parents, sitting in some
01:54native village in Uttar Pradesh?
01:56Does that happen?
02:04And why do you need to drag your life till 95 years of age?
02:08If you find that you have turned debilitated at 80, switch it off.
02:15Do you really need to continue living for 120 years?
02:24Live a rich, fulfilled life and when you find that you are on the verge of becoming dependent,
02:33then call it off.
02:41Not one hair in your head is grey and you are worrying about old age.
02:54Why must you turn so pathetically old in the first place?
02:59I am asking you.
03:01If you are healthy, then continue to live on, 90, 95, it's okay.
03:07Because you are still healthy and strong and on your own.
03:11But the day you find you are tied to the bed and dependent on others for every small thing,
03:20why do you still want to keep breathing?
03:28Call it a day, done, lived enough, lived richly.
03:36I can retire now, can't I?
03:39Is it not a sensible decision, like looking at the condition of the country, the temperature
03:44is rising, to move to a better country where population is lessened?
03:50Climate change doesn't differentiate between countries.
03:59Wherever you go, the battle has to be fought.
04:12You can fight it here, you can fight it there.
04:15If you think you can fight it better over there, then do shift.
04:22As far as I am concerned, I would want to be in the thick of the battle.
04:27I would want to fight where the problem really is.
04:31Why escape away to some land where people are already more aware, more responsible?
04:46The bulk of population growth in the coming few decades is going to come from countries
04:51like India.
04:54What would I do by preaching these things to the Japanese?
05:02Their population is already reducing, they will become extinct if I preach a little more
05:08to them.
05:15These things need to be drilled into Indians because this is the place from where most
05:24of the world's population growth is going to come.
05:27Sorry sir, look at the growth rates, what are you talking of?
05:58India is the third biggest emitter of carbon, you are probably talking of per capita emissions.
06:06Why talk of per capita thing?
06:12After China and the US, India stands at number three and in terms of yearly growth, India
06:19is number one.
06:27We all want progress, and every bit of that which you call as progress is carbon emitting.
06:40Every bit of that which you call as the good life is carbon emitting.
06:51A fellow comes from a small town to live in Bangalore, his carbon footprint probably increases
06:56five times, but you call it progress, you call it urbanization.
07:07A fellow moves from a small house to a big house, his carbon footprint increases four times.
07:15But you say it's great.
07:18A fellow gets a higher paying job and gets two more air conditioners, he has done his
07:29share of damage to the earth, but he'll say this is progress.
07:39Progress itself is the problem.
07:48As long as there are so many people progressing, if you want to progress, then let there be
07:54a quarter of people that there are, then you can have all these progresses.
08:00But you cannot have the kind of per capita consumption of resources that probably the
08:09US currently has with the kind of population that India currently has.
08:17But that is what we want, we want the population of India to be multiplied by the per capita
08:25consumption of the US and that is catastrophic.
08:32If you want per capita consumption levels of the developed countries, then you reduce
08:39your population to the level of developed countries.
08:45You cannot have the population of India, but the per capita consumption of Germany.
08:50Unfortunately that is what we want.

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