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00:00Daniel Craig, l'autore dei costumi Jonathan Anderson.
00:10Daniel and Drew, I think there was a part of the question was for you two.
00:17What was the question again?
00:20The question was about the erotic scene and the intimacies, how did you reach this level
00:27of intimacy?
00:28There's some choreography in the movie, which is a very important part of the movie.
00:39Drew and I started rehearsals on that months before we started filming, which is dancing
00:45with someone is a great icebreaker.
00:50We approached the scenes, you know as well as I do, there's nothing intimate about filming
00:57a sex scene on a movie set, there's a room full of people watching you, so we just wanted
01:04to make it as touching and as real and as natural as we possibly could.
01:15Drew is a wonderful, fantastic, beautiful actor to work with and we kind of had a laugh,
01:22you know, we tried to make it fun.
01:28Which is such a singular experience as an actor, I've never had an experience like this
01:34to really dive into one moment in a story and explore every avenue possible.
01:43So yeah, but collaborating with, I mean I'm not a dancer, Daniel's definitely not a dancer.
01:52But I think we learned, I think we got better together, so.
01:56Found our limits.
01:57Yes, limits.
02:00Daniel, do you want to add something to the question?
02:05Yeah, I mean it's the whole, you know the trip at the end, the third act, it's so important
02:12to the film, it doesn't happen in the book, it's something that Luca decided to put in
02:20because we needed it, we needed to see them connect.
02:24We were talking about collaborating together and suddenly you find you've created this
02:29character.
02:30Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia, hi.
02:33I don't think we've had the obvious question, why did you cast Daniel Craig, who was once
02:39James Bond, and why, did you have any second thoughts about it Daniel, about playing this
02:46role given that you are quite a superstar, and, well, whatever, and do you think there
02:54could be a gay James Bond?
03:00Guys, let's be adult in the room for a second.
03:06There is no way around the fact that nobody would ever know James Bond desires, period.
03:13Having said that, now.
03:26The important thing is that he does his missions properly.
03:29Having said that, darling, I adore you.
03:35I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time, despite he looks and he is pristine,
03:44and I had this intuition that I suffocated within me because, you know, like, I'm pragmatic,
03:50like, you have to make movies, you cannot daydream.
03:53The gentleman that is in the room was really the one that was not pragmatic and said to
03:57me, what about Daniel Craig?
03:59And I said, I thought about it, but he's never going to say yes.
04:01And he said to me, let's ask.
04:04And he said yes.
04:05And the yes was a definitive yes.
04:09He's one of the greatest actors.
04:11It's a privilege to work with someone like him.
04:14And for me, one of the great characteristics of the great actors that you love, that you
04:19want to see on screen and you are affected by, I would say is the generosity of approach.
04:27The capacity of being very immortal on screen.
04:36And very few are, and very few iconic legendary actors allow that fragility to be seen.
04:44And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
04:49Daniel.
04:51Now, I just want to follow up on Lucas, because beside the allure of working with him and
04:58all these other wonderful, talented people, what is about Lee that you were interested
05:02into exploring?
05:06Well, first off, the reason I did the movie is because of this great man here.
05:09I mean, it's like, I mean, it was when I'd wanted to work with him for a long time.
05:14We met 20 years ago and said, maybe we should work together.
05:17And we finally did, which is just a wonderful thing.
05:23I kind of look at this movie and I think if I wasn't in the movie and I saw this movie,
05:27I'd want to be in it.
05:29Does that make sense?
05:30It's just, it's the kind of films I want to see, I want to make, I want to be out there.
05:36They're challenging, but they're hopefully incredibly accessible because they're movies.
05:43I mean, they're movies, as I understand them.
05:48So the challenge of playing Lee was just talking and just, we just talked and, you know,
05:57all of us, one of Lucas' incredible talents is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
06:03I mean, he has a very strong opinion, don't get me wrong.
06:05But he wants to hear everybody's opinion because it's really important to him to hear
06:10other people's voices about what it is.
06:12And it's so freeing because you're not kind of like on track.
06:17You're just like, okay, maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
06:19So I don't look back as a challenge, just as a joy.
06:25I want to add something, a very queer thing to do.
06:31For example, for Mr. Craig, maybe not everybody will get this,
06:34but I saw traces of Geordie Peacock in Lee, which I thought was very strange also.
06:40But just in terms of how you center these characters, like what did you see in them
06:45that was appealing to you and that you wanted to put out there,
06:49especially relative to Mr. Burroughs' life, which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
07:02There's a research that I did.
07:04I watched a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed.
07:08And he had this persona, I can only describe it as a persona,
07:13which is very kind of deep and measured.
07:18And I thought, that can't be him.
07:20Or if it is, it's a part of him.
07:23It's something, maybe a defense, maybe it's something.
07:26And I think that when I thought about that and I read Queer and we talked,
07:32I thought, we've got to try and find the other person.
07:35There's very little knowledge of that.
07:36There's very little kind of talk of it.
07:38And that really was the thing that I kind of wanted to try and key into.
07:43Because having read Junkie, which is sort of very dry
07:47and just sort of like a kind of this is this and this is this,
07:50Queer is this emotional just thump in about, you know, like it's a tiny book,
07:56but it's just like an emotional thump.
07:58And it is about love, but it's about loss.
08:02It's about loneliness.
08:03It's about yearning.
08:04It's about all of these things.
08:05And, I mean, God, I mean, if I was writing myself apart
08:09and trying to tick off things that I wanted to do,
08:11this would fulfill all of them.
08:15Taking us in an internal process through this couple.
08:21This is love.
08:23It's a couple.
08:24This is only love.
08:25And through love, bringing the characters to that trip
08:30around South America and Mexico.
08:32But it's an internal trip.
08:35An internal trip maybe to try to find himself.
08:39Do you think it could be possible that the public or the people
08:45projecting themselves and say that internal trip,
08:49not lying to ourselves, not cheating to ourselves,
08:54do you think that could be part of the public when we see it?
08:58Because that was at least what I thought.
09:01And to Daniel, how did you feel that sadness?
09:07It was a role, but you project that sadness in that trip.
09:14How did you feel through this character?
09:19Because it touched, really.
09:23I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
09:26I just felt like all you can do is you can just absorb everything you can
09:35and then on the day, a great director, you figure it out.
09:40So if you saw it, that's wonderful.
09:46There was no, hopefully there's no effort to do it.
09:50It was happening.
09:51And that's what hopefully you saw.
09:54I'm really sorry they just came to tell me we ran way out of time.
09:59Thank you, everyone.
10:00Daniel Craig.
10:06L'autore dei Costumi, Jonathan Anderson.
10:10Daniel and Drew, I think there was a part of the question was for you two.
10:15What was the question again?
10:18The question was about the erotic scene and the intimacy.
10:23How did you reach this level of intimacy?
10:31There's some choreography in the movie, which is a very important part of the movie.
10:36Drew and I started rehearsals on that months before we started filming.
10:42Dancing with someone is a great icebreaker.
10:47And we approached the scenes, you know as well as I do,
10:53there's nothing intimate about filming a sex scene on a movie set.
10:57There's a room full of people watching you.
10:59So it's like, we just wanted to make it as touching and as real
11:06and as natural as we possibly could.
11:12Drew is a wonderful, fantastic, beautiful actor to work with.
11:17We kind of had a laugh.
11:20We tried to make it fun.
11:26Which is such a singular experience as an actor.
11:29I've never had an experience like this to really dive into one moment in a story
11:36and explore every avenue possible.
11:41But collaborating with... I mean, I'm not a dancer.
11:45Daniel is definitely not a dancer.
11:50But I think we learned. I think we got better together.
11:53We found our limits.
11:55Yes, limits.
11:58Daniel, do you want to add something to the question?
12:02Yeah, I mean it's the whole...
12:07The trip at the end, the third act, it's so important to the film.
12:11It doesn't happen in the book.
12:12It's something that Luca decided to put in because we needed it.
12:19We needed to see them connect.
12:22We were talking about...
12:23Collaborate together and suddenly you find you've created this character.
12:28Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia. Hi.
12:31I don't think we've had the obvious question.
12:34Why did you cast Daniel Craig, who was once James Bond?
12:40Did you have any second thoughts about it, Daniel?
12:43About playing this role given that you are quite a superstar?
12:49Well, whatever.
12:51Do you think there could be a gay James Bond?
12:58Guys, let's be adult in the room for a second.
13:04There is no way around the fact
13:06that nobody would ever know James Bond desires, period.
13:11Having said that...
13:15Now...
13:24The important thing is that he does his missions properly.
13:27Having said that...
13:30Darling, don't worry.
13:35I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time,
13:40despite he looks and he is pristine.
13:43And I had this intuition that I suffocated within me
13:47because, you know, I'm pragmatic.
13:49You have to make movies. You cannot daydream.
13:52The gentleman that is in the room was really the one that was not pragmatic
13:56and said to me, what about Daniel Craig?
13:58I thought about it, but he's never going to say yes.
14:00And he said to me, let's ask.
14:02And he said yes.
14:03And the yes was a definitive yes.
14:07He's one of the greatest actors.
14:09It's a privilege to work with someone like him.
14:12And for me, one of the great characteristics of the great actors
14:16that you love, that you want to see on screen
14:19and you are affected by,
14:21I would say is the generosity of approach.
14:25The capacity of being very...
14:33immortal on screen.
14:35And very few are, and very few iconic legendary actors
14:39allow that fragility to be seen.
14:42And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
14:47Daniel.
14:51No, I just want to follow up on Lucas
14:54because beside the allure of working with him
14:56and all these other wonderful, talented people,
14:58what is it about Lee that you were interested in exploring?
15:04Well, first off, the reason I did the movie
15:06is because of this great man here.
15:08I mean, it was when I wanted to work with him for a long time.
15:12We met 20 years ago and said maybe we should work together
15:15and we finally did, which is just a wonderful thing.
15:21I kind of look at this movie and I think
15:23if I wasn't in the movie and I saw this movie,
15:25I'd want to be in it.
15:27Does that make sense?
15:29It's the kind of films I want to see, I want to make,
15:33I want to be out there.
15:35They're challenging, but they're hopefully incredibly accessible
15:39because they're movies.
15:41I mean, they're movies as I understand them.
15:47So the challenge of playing Lee was just talking.
15:53We just talked.
15:57One of Luke's incredible talents
15:59is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
16:01I mean, he has a very strong opinion, don't get me wrong,
16:04but he wants to hear everybody's opinion
16:06because it's really important to him
16:08to hear other people's voices about what it is.
16:10And it's so freeing because you're not kind of like on track.
16:15You're just like, OK, maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
16:18So I don't look back as a challenge, just as a joy.
16:23I want to add something, a very queer thing to do.
16:29For example, for Mr. Craig, maybe not everybody will get this,
16:32but I saw traces of Geordie Peacock in Lee,
16:35which I thought was very strange also.
16:38But just in terms of how you center these characters,
16:41like what did you see in them that was appealing to you
16:45and that you wanted to put out there,
16:48especially relative to Mr. Burroughs' life,
16:51which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
17:01The research that I did,
17:03I watched a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed,
17:06and he had this persona.
17:09I can only describe it as a persona,
17:11which is very kind of deep and, you know, measured.
17:16And I thought, that can't be him.
17:18Or if it is, it's a part of him.
17:21It's something, maybe a defence, maybe it's something.
17:24And I think that...
17:27When I thought about that, and I read Queer, and we talked,
17:30I thought, we've got to try and find the other person.
17:33There's very little knowledge of that, there's very little talk of it.
17:36And that really was the thing that I kind of wanted to try and key into,
17:40who is...
17:42Because having read Junkie, which is sort of very dry
17:45and just like a kind of, this is this and this is this,
17:48Queer is this emotional just thump about, you know,
17:53like it's a tiny book, but it's just like an emotional thump.
17:56And it is about love, but it's about loss,
18:00it's about loneliness, it's about yearning,
18:02it's about all of these things.
18:04And, I mean, God, if I was writing myself apart
18:07and trying to tick off things that I wanted to do,
18:10this would fulfil all of them.
18:13Taking us in an internal process through this couple.
18:19This is love.
18:21It's a couple, it's only love.
18:23And through love, bringing the characters to that trip
18:28around South America and Mexico.
18:30But it's an internal trip.
18:33An internal trip maybe to try to find himself.
18:37Do you think it could be possible
18:40that the public or the people projecting themselves
18:45and say that internal trip, not lying to ourselves,
18:49not cheating to ourselves,
18:51do you think that could be part of the public when we see it?
18:56Because that was at least what I thought.
18:59And to Daniel, how did you feel that sadness,
19:04it was a role,
19:06but you project that sadness in that trip.
19:11How did you feel through this character?
19:16Because it touched, really.
19:21I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
19:24I just felt like...
19:28All you can do is you can just absorb everything you can
19:33and then on the day, a great director, you figure it out.
19:38So if you saw it, that's wonderful.
19:45Hopefully there's no effort to do it.
19:48It was happening and that's what hopefully you saw.
19:52I'm really sorry.
19:54They just came to tell me we ran way out of time.
19:57Thank you everyone.
19:58Daniel Craig.
20:03The costume designer, Jonathan Anderson.
20:33It's a great movie.
20:35Drew and I started rehearsals on that months before we started filming.
20:41Dancing with someone is a great icebreaker.
20:45And we approached the scenes...
20:51You know as well as I do,
20:53there's nothing intimate about filming a sex scene on a movie set.
20:56There's a room full of people watching you.
20:59We just wanted to make it as touching and as real
21:05and as natural as we possibly could.
21:10Drew is a wonderful, fantastic, beautiful actor to work with.
21:15We kind of had a laugh.
21:18We tried to make it fun.
21:24Which is such a singular experience as an actor.
21:27I've never had an experience like this.
21:30To really dive into one moment in a story
21:34and explore every avenue possible.
21:39But collaborating with...
21:41I'm not a dancer.
21:43Daniel is definitely not a dancer.
21:48But I think we learned.
21:49I think we got better together.
21:51We found our limits.
21:53Yes, limits.
21:55Daniel, do you want to add something to the question?
22:00Yeah, I mean it's the whole...
22:03The trip at the end, the third act,
22:06it's so important to the film.
22:08It doesn't happen in the book.
22:10It's something that Luca decided to put in
22:14because we needed it.
22:16We needed to see them connect.
22:20We were talking about collaborating together
22:22and suddenly you find you've created this character.
22:26Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia.
22:28Hi.
22:29I don't think we've had the obvious question.
22:32Why did you cast Daniel Craig,
22:34who was once James Bond?
22:36And why...
22:38Did you have any second thoughts about it, Daniel?
22:41About playing this role,
22:43given that you are quite a superstar?
22:45And...
22:46Well, whatever.
22:48And do you think there could be a gay James Bond?
22:56Guys, let's be adults in the room for a second.
23:02There is no way around the fact
23:04that nobody would ever know James Bond desires.
23:08Period.
23:09Having said that...
23:13Now...
23:19The important thing is that he does his missions properly.
23:23Having said that...
23:26Darling, I adore you.
23:31I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time,
23:36despite he looks and he is pristine.
23:39And I had this intuition that I suffocated within me
23:43because, you know, I'm pragmatic.
23:45You have to make movies, you cannot daydream.
23:48The gentleman that is in the room
23:50was really the one that was not pragmatic
23:52and said to me,
23:53what about Daniel Craig?
23:54And I said, I thought about it,
23:56but he's never going to say yes.
23:58And he said to me, let's ask.
24:00And he said yes.
24:01And the yes was a definitive yes.
24:04He's one of the greatest actors.
24:06It's a privilege to work with someone like him.
24:09And for me,
24:10one of the great characteristics of the great actors
24:13that you love,
24:14that you want to see on screen
24:16and you are affected by,
24:18I would say is the generosity of approach.
24:23The capacity of being very...
24:30...immortal on screen.
24:32And very few are,
24:34and very few iconic legendary actors
24:37allow that fragility to be seen.
24:40And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
24:43Daniel.
24:44Oh, God.
24:45Okay.
24:46No, I just want to follow up on Lucas
24:49because beside the allure of working with him
24:51and all these other wonderful, talented people,
24:53what is it about Lee
24:55that you were interested into exploring?
24:59Well, first off,
25:00the reason I did the movie
25:01is because of this great man here.
25:03I mean, it was when...
25:04I'd wanted to work with him for a long time.
25:07We met 20 years ago
25:08when we were shooting the movie.
25:10We met a long time.
25:11We met 20 years ago
25:12and said maybe we should work together
25:14and we finally did,
25:15which is just a wonderful thing.
25:20I kind of look at this movie
25:21and I think if I wasn't in the movie
25:23and I saw this movie,
25:24I'd want to be in it,
25:25if that makes sense.
25:27It's just...
25:28It's the kind of films I want to see,
25:30I want to make,
25:31I want to be out there.
25:33They're challenging,
25:34but they're hopefully incredibly accessible
25:37because they're movies.
25:39I mean, they're movies as I understand them.
25:44So the challenge of playing Lee
25:48was just talking.
25:51We just talked.
25:55One of Luca's incredible talents
25:57is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
25:59I mean, he has a very strong opinion,
26:00don't get me wrong,
26:01but he wants to hear everybody's opinion
26:04because it's really important to him
26:05to hear other people's voices
26:07about what it is
26:08and it's so freeing
26:11because you're not kind of on track.
26:13You're just like,
26:14okay, maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
26:17I don't look back as a challenge,
26:19just as a joy.
26:21Yeah.
26:22I want to add something,
26:23a very queer thing to do.
26:27For example, for Mr. Craig,
26:29maybe not everybody will get this,
26:30but I saw traces of Geordie Peacock in Lee,
26:33which I thought was very strange also,
26:36but just in terms of how you center these characters,
26:39like what did you see in them
26:41that was appealing to you
26:44and that you wanted to put out there,
26:46especially relative to Mr. Burroughs' life,
26:49which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
26:59The research that I did,
27:00I watched a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed.
27:05He had this persona,
27:07I can only describe it as a persona,
27:09which is very kind of deep and measured.
27:14And I thought, that can't be him.
27:16Or if it is, it's a part of him.
27:19It's something, maybe a defense,
27:20maybe it's something.
27:22And I think that when I thought about that
27:26and I read Queer and we talked,
27:28I thought, we've got to try and find the other person.
27:31There's very little knowledge of that.
27:32There's very little kind of talk of it.
27:34And that really was the thing
27:36that I kind of wanted to try and key into.
27:39Because having read Junkie,
27:42which is sort of very dry
27:43and just sort of like a kind of,
27:44this is this and this is this.
27:46Queer is this emotional just thump
27:50in about, you know, like it's a tiny book,
27:52but it's just like an emotional thump.
27:54And it is about love, but it's about loss.
27:58It's about loneliness.
27:59It's about yearning.
28:00It's about all of these things.
28:01And I mean, God, I mean,
28:03if I was writing myself apart
28:05and trying to tick off things that I wanted to do,
28:07this would fulfill all of them.
28:11Taking us in an internal process
28:15through this couple.
28:17It is, this is love.
28:19It's a couple, this is only love.
28:21And through love,
28:22bringing the characters to that trip
28:26around South America and Mexico.
28:29But it's an internal trip.
28:31An internal trip maybe to try to find himself.
28:35Do you think it could be possible
28:38that the public or the people
28:40projecting themselves and say,
28:43that internal trip,
28:45not lying to ourselves,
28:47not cheating to ourselves,
28:49do you think that could be part of the public
28:53when we see it?
28:54Because that was at least what I thought.
28:58And to Daniel,
28:59how did you feel that sadness,
29:03it was a role,
29:04but you project that sadness in that trip.
29:10How did you feel through this character?
29:15Because it touched, really.
29:20I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
29:22I just felt like,
29:24all you can do is you can just
29:27absorb everything you can
29:29and then on the day,
29:31a great director,
29:32you figure it out.
29:33And so if you saw it,
29:35that's wonderful.
29:40There was no,
29:41hopefully there's no effort to do it.
29:43It's just, it was happening.
29:44And that's what hopefully you saw.
29:48I'm really sorry they just came to tell me
29:50I'm really sorry they just came to tell me
29:52we ran way out of time.
29:55Thank you everyone.
29:56Daniel Craig.
30:02L'autore dei Costumi,
30:03Jonathan Anderson.
30:06Daniel and Drew,
30:07I think there was a part of the question
30:08was for you two.
30:11What was the question again?
30:14The question was about the erotic scene
30:19and the intimacy.
30:20How did you reach this level of intimacy?
30:28There's some choreography in the movie
30:30which is a very important part of the movie.
30:33Drew and I started rehearsals on that
30:35months before we started filming.
30:39Dancing with someone is a great icebreaker.
30:44And we approached the scenes,
30:49you know as well as I do,
30:50there's nothing intimate about filming a sex scene
30:52on a movie set.
30:54There's a room full of people watching you.
30:58We just wanted to make it as touching
31:02and as real and as natural
31:06as we possibly could.
31:09Drew's a wonderful, fantastic,
31:12beautiful actor to work with
31:13and we kind of had a laugh.
31:17We tried to make it fun.
31:20Which is such a singular experience as an actor.
31:25I've never had an experience like this
31:28to really dive into one moment in a story
31:32and explore every avenue possible.
31:37So yeah, but collaborating with,
31:39I mean I'm not a dancer.
31:41Daniel's definitely not a dancer.
31:46But I think we learned,
31:47I think we got better together.
31:50We found our limits.
31:51Yes, limits.
31:54Daniel, do you want to add something to it?
31:58To the question.
31:59Yeah, I mean it's the whole,
32:02you know the trip at the end,
32:04the third act,
32:05it's so important to the film.
32:07It doesn't happen in the book.
32:08It's something that Luca decided to put in
32:13because we needed it.
32:15We needed to see them connect.
32:19Collaborate together
32:20and suddenly you find you've created this character.
32:24Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia, hi.
32:27I don't think we've had the obvious question.
32:30Why did you cast Daniel Craig,
32:32who was once James Bond?
32:36Did you have any second thoughts about it, Daniel,
32:39about playing this role
32:41given that you are quite a superstar?
32:44Well, whatever.
32:46Do you think there could be a gay James Bond?
32:54Guys, let's be adults in the room for a second.
33:00There is no way around the fact
33:02that nobody would ever know James Bond desires.
33:07Period.
33:08Having said that,
33:10now.
33:19The important thing is that he does his missions properly.
33:22Having said that,
33:29I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time
33:35despite he looks and he is pristine.
33:37And I had this intuition that I suffocated within me
33:41because I'm pragmatic.
33:43You have to make movies.
33:44You cannot daydream.
33:46The gentleman that is in the room
33:47was really the one that was not pragmatic
33:49and said to me,
33:50what about Daniel Craig?
33:51And I said, I thought about it,
33:52but he's never going to say yes.
33:53And he said to me, let's ask.
33:56And he said yes.
33:57And the yes was a definitive yes.
34:02He's one of the greatest actors.
34:03It's a privilege to work with him.
34:05And for me,
34:06one of the great characteristics of the great actors
34:09that you love,
34:10that you want to see on screen,
34:12and you are affected by,
34:14I would say is the generosity of approach.
34:19The capacity of being very
34:26immortal on screen.
34:28And very few are.
34:30And very few iconic characters
34:33are.
34:34And very few iconic legendary actors
34:36allow that fragility to be seen.
34:39And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
34:44Daniel.
34:45Oh, God.
34:47No, I just want to follow up on Lucas
34:50because beside the allure of working with him
34:52and all these other wonderful, talented people,
34:55what is about Lee
34:56that you were interested into exploring?
35:01Well, first off,
35:02the reason I did the movie
35:03is because of this great man here.
35:06I'd wanted to work with him for a long time.
35:09We met 20 years ago
35:10and said maybe we should work together.
35:12And we finally did,
35:13which is just a wonderful thing.
35:18I kind of look at this movie
35:20and I think if I wasn't in the movie
35:22and I saw this movie,
35:23I'd want to be in it.
35:24Does that make sense?
35:26It's the kind of films I want to see,
35:29I want to make,
35:30I want to be out there.
35:31They're challenging,
35:32but they're hopefully incredibly accessible
35:35because they're movies.
35:38They're movies as I understand them.
35:45The challenge of playing Lee
35:47was just talking.
35:50We just talked.
35:54One of Lucas' incredible talents
35:56is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
35:58He has a very strong opinion,
35:59don't get me wrong.
36:01But he wants to hear everybody's opinion
36:02because it's really important to him
36:04to hear other people's voices
36:06about what it is.
36:07It's so freeing
36:09because you're not kind of on track.
36:12You're just like,
36:13okay, maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
36:15I don't look back as a challenge,
36:17just as a joy.
36:20I want to add something,
36:21a very queer thing to do.
36:25For example, for Mr. Craig,
36:27maybe not everybody will get this,
36:29but I saw traces of Geordie Peacock in Lee,
36:32which I thought was very strange also.
36:35Just in terms of how you center these characters,
36:38what did you see in them
36:40that was appealing to you
36:42and that you wanted to put out there,
36:44especially relative to Mr. Burroughs' life,
36:47which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
36:52There's a research that I did.
36:55I watched a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed.
36:59He had this persona.
37:02I can only describe it as a persona.
37:04It's very kind of deep and measured.
37:08And I thought, that can't be him.
37:11Or if it is, it's a part of him.
37:13It's something, maybe a defense.
37:15Maybe it's something.
37:17When I thought about that,
37:19and I read Queer, and we talked,
37:22I thought, we've got to try and find the other person.
37:25There's very little knowledge of that.
37:27There's very little talk of it.
37:29That really was the thing
37:31that I kind of wanted to try and key into.
37:34Because having read Junkie,
37:36which is sort of very dry
37:38and just kind of like, this is this, and this is this,
37:41Queer is this emotional,
37:44it's a tiny book, but it's emotional.
37:47And it is about love, but it's about loss.
37:51It's about loneliness.
37:53It's about yearning.
37:55It's about all of these things.
37:57And, I mean, God, if I was writing myself apart
38:00and trying to tick off things that I wanted to do,
38:03this would fulfill all of them.
38:05Taking us in an internal process
38:10Taking us in an internal process
38:14through this couple.
38:16This is love.
38:18It's a couple, it's only love.
38:20And through love, bringing the characters
38:23to that trip around South America and Mexico.
38:27But it's an internal trip.
38:30An internal trip maybe to try to find himself.
38:34Do you think it could be possible
38:37that the public or the people
38:40projecting themselves and say
38:42that internal trip, not lying to ourselves,
38:46not cheating to ourselves,
38:48do you think that could be part of the public
38:52when we see it?
38:53Because that was at least what I thought.
38:56And to Daniel, how did you feel that sadness,
39:01it was a role,
39:03but you project that sadness in that trip.
39:08How did you feel through this character?
39:13Because it touched, really.
39:18I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
39:20I just felt like...
39:25All you can do is you can just
39:28absorb everything you can,
39:30and then on the day,
39:32a great director, you figure it out.
39:35So if you saw it, that's wonderful.
39:42Hopefully there's no effort to do it.
39:44It was just happening,
39:46and that's what hopefully you saw.
39:49I'm really sorry they just came to tell me
39:51we ran way out of time.
39:53Thank you, everyone.