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"Bill Lakar ye Hasil Kiya Karna Chahte Hain...? Masla Sirf Aik Hi Hai inko..." Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain's Blunt Analysis
"Bill Lakar ye Hasil Kiya Karna Chahte Hain...? Masla Sirf Aik Hi Hai inko..." Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain's Blunt Analysis
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00:00Let's move on to the second story.
00:02Yesterday, the bill was presented in the Senate
00:06to increase the number of judges in the Supreme Court in Pakistan.
00:11Today, the bill of the same nature is in the National Assembly.
00:15Daniyal Chaudhry, an M.A. in the Pakistan Muslim League,
00:18presented the bill and gave some explanations
00:22as to why we need more judges in the Supreme Court in Pakistan.
00:28I wish to move, leave to introduce a bill further to amend the Supreme Court
00:32Number of Judges Act 1997.
00:35Supreme Court Number of Judges Amendment Bill 2024.
00:38When this last bill was introduced, our population was around 16 crores.
00:43And today, as we speak, the number has increased from 25 crores to 25 crores.
00:49The pending cases in the Supreme Court, more than 54,000 cases,
00:53as we speak, are pending in the Supreme Court.
00:56There is a very big backlog of judges.
00:59As time goes on, we need more specialized judges.
01:04And this bill is coming as needed, at this time, when it is needed.
01:10Barrister Gohar, Chairman of the National Assembly for Justice in Pakistan,
01:16as an M.A.
01:17He presented some counter-arguments,
01:19that he referred to different countries of the world,
01:23that how much population is there, how many judges are there.
01:26The issue of penancy, especially in India,
01:29how serious is the issue of penancy.
01:31Is it necessary to increase the number of judges because of this?
01:35The bill that is being introduced,
01:37it can be a private member bill,
01:39it can be allowed.
01:41Increasing the number of judges,
01:42only and only rewards the government,
01:44to the extent of the Supreme Court and Islamabad High Court.
01:47Now, I will give an example of India, Mr. Speaker.
01:49He is saying that our population has increased.
01:51The number of judges that we have at the moment,
01:53compare it with India.
01:54The population of India at the moment is 1.45 crore.
01:57In India, the judges of the High Court,
01:59are 1114.
02:01The Supreme Court sitting on 1114 judges,
02:03consists of only 23 judges.
02:06In the Supreme Court, their cases will be pending for 80,221.
02:10Increasing the number of judges will not reduce the case.
02:13There will be a big burden on this issue.
02:15But Mr. Speaker, I say, if you will move this bill,
02:18Article 74, Article 81, Article 90, Rule 118,
02:22the judgement of the Supreme Court,
02:24and the violation of the Mustafa Imtiaz Court,
02:26therefore, it is not allowed to be moved.
02:30Hassan, one of the questions that is being raised,
02:33the need for agreed judges,
02:35the issue of agreed penalty,
02:37agreed, in Pakistan,
02:39to get cheap and immediate justice,
02:41there is a need for measures.
02:43So, why is this a private member bill?
02:46Hassan, why not,
02:48in the middle of the day,
02:50this is a genuine issue.
02:52Let's move ahead with this concern.
02:54Let's talk to him.
02:56He is a brilliant brainwave.
02:58At night, Danyal Aziz,
03:00our young barrister,
03:02Danyal Chaudhary,
03:04he came to his senses,
03:06he made the bill,
03:08and presented it.
03:10It is a one-pager amendment.
03:12Sir, I am trying to understand you.
03:14He is a government member.
03:16He is the MNA of Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
03:18So, why a private member bill?
03:20Why not a government bill?
03:22A private member bill cannot be brought by
03:24an independent parliamentarian.
03:26He has to play his role.
03:28Look, we should appreciate this,
03:30that such an independent,
03:32such a private member,
03:34such a private member,
03:36who is doing this work,
03:38this is the work of the government,
03:40which he is doing,
03:42we should appreciate him,
03:44and not say, why didn't the government do it?
03:46If the government doesn't do it,
03:48the government is afraid of the Supreme Court,
03:50the government is afraid of some more pressure.
03:52So, if an individual has taken this bold step,
03:54and he is a young man,
03:56and he is becoming a parliamentarian for the first time,
03:58then you and I should sit and praise him.
04:00This is my opinion.
04:04Okay.
04:06Chaudhary Ghulam Sahib,
04:08Chaudhary Sahib,
04:10Now, if a young man is sitting with me,
04:12he will laugh at me.
04:14Okay, there is another bill
04:16that has come today.
04:18He is a member of the National Assembly
04:20of the JUIF,
04:22from Peshawar, Noor Alam Khan Sahib,
04:24he was a member of the People's Party,
04:26then from our dear Pakistan Tehreek-e-Nasab,
04:28he represented
04:30the Peshawar National Assembly.
04:32Nowadays, he is a member of the JUIF.
04:36He has presented 2-3 bills there.
04:38One bill is that
04:40there should be no
04:42civilian bureaucracy
04:44or dual nationality
04:46in Pakistan.
04:48Along with that,
04:50he has also proposed
04:52some amendments
04:54in 184.3,
04:56according to which
04:58a notice
05:00related to the common people,
05:02which is taken,
05:04should be heard by at least 9 members.
05:06A review petition within 30 days
05:08and if a review petition is applied,
05:10then it should be made by 9 members,
05:12then 10 members, 11 members,
05:14whatever the bench is made.
05:16And the case of Tohin-e-Adalat
05:18has also been said to be terminated.
05:20It is not necessary that
05:22the law of Tohin-e-Adalat should be terminated.
05:24So, this bill
05:26was also presented there today.
05:28On this,
05:30the columns of the newspapers
05:32are all across,
05:34you can read the columns
05:36of any newspaper,
05:38read the opinions of the columnists,
05:40it is being said that
05:42the purpose is good,
05:44the intention is good,
05:46but the intention behind it
05:48has some dark clouds.
05:50What is the reason
05:52why all people think like this?
05:54Hassan thinks it is not like that.
05:56Your comments on this,
05:58what is the reason
06:00that the private member bill,
06:02this consensus,
06:04this bill can come, why not?
06:06No, the bill can come,
06:08it cannot come,
06:10what does Hassan want to do?
06:12Actually, the problem
06:14is that he is seeing
06:16his own personal death.
06:18Because the people have not
06:20voted for him,
06:22now he is sitting
06:24under the leadership of Taka Shahi,
06:26sometimes he does something,
06:28sometimes Supreme Court,
06:30he will be stuck in this,
06:32he cannot get out of this.
06:34Why?
06:36When Fazl-ur-Rehman,
06:38whom your colleagues also praise a lot,
06:40did he ever have
06:42the honourable way
06:44that you sit in the opposition?
06:46No, you have to stay in this country
06:48with a strong chest.
06:50When this is your way,
06:52then he will suffer the consequences.