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00:00Lovely to see you. You know, it's almost serendipity because our names are so similar and you both are having a face-off also in the show
00:06But Charlie and Charles I was like for a moment. I was a little confused
00:11So, but I'm gonna ask you, you know, the fact is you didn't know you were
00:16Yeah, you know what to play Sauron just like the rest of the people in the middle earth. What was that like?
00:22It was crazy. I I didn't know
00:26When I was auditioning and then I filmed the first two episodes and I still didn't know
00:30So they told me right before the third episode
00:33Began which was it was actually a relief more than anything because we all got to New Zealand
00:39For the first season and we were all guessing because we looked down the cast list and you're seeing original characters
00:45But you're not seeing Sauron and we know that Sauron is the villain of this time period
00:50So we were all guessing where he might be hiding and then and Hal brand was just definitely a suspect
00:58so I was relieved when they finally told me how brand is Sauron because it just meant that I could focus on all the work
01:04And not all the speculation
01:06Did they then say to you but don't tell it when they told you? Yeah
01:10Yeah, I think they said the best-kept secret literally real Andrea. Yeah, I think people slowly started to find out though amongst the cast
01:17Yeah, I don't know how
01:20So, I mean putting the good into being really bad
01:23What is that one thing that you picked up about him that you knew that I'm going to play up on this aspect
01:28I think his desire for control and order. That's the thing above all else that he
01:35Seeks he seeks to heal Middle-earth and that's kind of the whole character to me
01:41I mean, it's not the whole character, but the core of the character. Yeah, and I just thought if I can focus everything on
01:47Healing Middle-earth and me thinking it's for the good of everyone else
01:52Then I have something to hang on to amidst all his reputation, I guess for being incredibly evil
02:00You thought he was your you know
02:04Savior well, that's how he presents himself to me as my savior literally
02:08Yeah, and religious said, you know, you're the one who actually is now the central protagonist who's really got very sadly manipulated
02:16But what was it like coming back to visiting him and also?
02:20What's this journey being like with this universe?
02:24It was first firstly it was Charlie and I both knew that we this storyline was going to be
02:29Our storyline in season two. So we were both very much looking forward to that because we're both feel very
02:36Pleased to be the ones who are putting on screen for the first time. Mm-hmm in any adaptation. So that was
02:44Really excited we knew that from the beginning that we would be doing that
02:47So so season one season one ended
02:50I just really wanted to start season two again and now I don't know how many
02:54How long the gap was between one and two it was a good year and a half something like that. Maybe it's so hot
03:00I know it's all sort of malt blends into one but
03:04But yeah, no very much looking forward to getting back to it and to be part of it and it's at times like this at
03:09these
03:10press sessions and
03:12screenings and traveling around the world promoting the show that you sort of step back and see quite the effect that it has and
03:20And it's very, you know, it makes us very proud to be to be part of it
03:23Awesome, and also caging to fans old and new, you know, yes, you have the
03:29Loyalist and you have those who are being I would say
03:33ushered into this force
03:34what would you have to say as actors and creators who are also bringing a world that
03:40Not many know about it was just like they've created this out of their own imagination. Yeah
03:45Well just as we were when we first came across talking that anyone who comes across anything magical like that
03:51about about which so many people are fanatical and
03:55You know who absolutely devoted to it
03:58It's a very exciting thing to be part of something that could introduce people to it for the first time
04:03Yeah, you know and there's a reason it's you know
04:06Talking is loved by millions of people around the world is because it's so enduring and timeless and the more people we can
04:13Introduce to it the better. I think do you also somewhere feel as artists this pressure because it's your interpretation and the creators but
04:21Those on the other side the purists are like no it should be like this. It should be like that
04:26But you are just doing a creator's job
04:29Yeah, yes
04:30But there is always that's that's the nature of adaptation and creation
04:34yeah, it's always gonna be you cannot please everyone all the time and all one can do as a performer as a creator is to
04:41present your version
04:43Exactly. Yeah, ultimately, I think that's what we would we do is we just have to approach it with love and and
04:51Commitment and that and every that's what everyone in this show is done. Yeah
04:55So someone is the shape shifter if you could shift shapes, who would you rather be inclined towards?
05:02Albron or Sauron yourself
05:05It's gotta be Sauron
05:08Hal brands a cool guy. He's just a citizen of middle-earth. He's just a villager
05:13It's just a it's just a middle-earth man the kind of guy you meet at the market square. Yeah. Yeah. He's just out of the market
05:23Lastly if you were to get the rings of power, what what is the one thing that you would do manifest with the ring of power?
05:29Well, if we're talking the scale of world peace then of course, I think we all would however if it was just for individual
05:39Individual gain gain I would probably choose. Well, we had this I would probably choose invisibility
05:46But then we also had flying. Yeah flying I think is hard to beat. Yeah flying would be great
05:51I guess and you had your avocado thing as well. Yeah
05:55Well, I thought it could produce not avocados but like smashed avocado, you know that you have on toast
06:00It'd be like all the ring up and it out of it just comes smashed
06:03I don't have to manipulate the seed and
06:06Cheaper it's avocados are expensive
06:09Dispenser wouldn't it an avocado dispenser? Yeah, but I want to ask you it's interpreting this vast world of
06:17Tolkien and I see in the middle earth the women are extremely strong. Hmm
06:21What was I would say
06:24Subconsciously or consciously at the subliminal level
06:27What was your interpretation and your perspective point of view that you brought in into this narrative up?
06:32Well, I guess it was to respect a woman, but they were already very well written by our showrunners
06:38JD Payne and Patrick McKay
06:40They had really I mean they loved strong woman and they wrote them that way
06:45so when I read the script the first time that was a joy because I loved that way and
06:49I mean here is you very strong woman
06:52Yeah
06:52And and then I what I do is that I just give very very small notes to the actors to is to make sure that we
06:59Stay on that level. So I remembered we spoke about that earlier. I remember saying to
07:04Cynthia when she discovered that she was blind in season one that the most important that she doesn't feel sorry for herself because she's
07:12A strong woman because she could have cried at that moment
07:16And it would have made sense then we decided that she would not cry that she would just remain very I mean
07:22Very dignified by sitting on her horse and not showing any feelings because she was strong and I'm so happy
07:28The season has been directed by women, you know, so it's a it gives a different perspective
07:32I would say the feminine gaze. That's what I meant to ask you. How different is the feminine gaze?
07:36I don't know
07:38It's like I feel like we all directors because I would say how could you the fact that three women gets trusted with this?
07:44Huge budget. I always say why not? Well, why wouldn't we be able to right? We might have a female president soon. So
07:52So, I mean look at Mexico as a female president. Yes, of course
07:56So why not right and since I like your character, but you somewhere also feel sorry for her for the decisions
08:01She's taken and then there's the push and pull between the two characters
08:05When you got her
08:06What was that one thing that you picked on about her saying that this is what I'm gonna work on and then the rest will
08:11Follow, uh, it's interesting because you know at the beginning of the casting process
08:15I always think back to it where we actually didn't know initially. Yeah, you know when I was auditioning
08:21I didn't know what the journey of this character was ultimately gonna be and then when I did find out
08:26you know, she existed in Tolkien's lore, but then the showrunners were gonna sort of
08:31fill in the blanks as it were and I too had some some room to kind of interpret and think about things and I
08:38Think for me like the one of the biggest challenges was this blindness aspect of things because obviously
08:45You know, we're in a fantasy world
08:47So I think there is some room to sort of consider how that
08:53What the reality of that is within the context of this story, but I just wanted to make sure that medial never
09:00appeared
09:01Diminished in the sense that she's you know flailing around. I felt like here's a woman who is
09:07Assured in certain ways and then uncertain in others, but I didn't want that to manifest by her kind of fumbling and and really being
09:15Weakened and disabled that was never my take and so I thought what an interesting challenge to sort of have this blindness
09:22But still have her move through the world in this sort of assured way
09:26So that was like a big thing that I appreciated being given, you know being entrusted with as an act
09:32Interesting your character I
09:34Kind of feel bad for him also
09:35but then I feel that this whole sense of pride that he has a very twisted sense the character has a very twisted sense of
09:43pride and you know, what was that like because
09:46Maneuvering this character because some way you feel bad for what he's been through and but then his whole
09:53Yes. Yes. It's a very interesting. It's a very interesting conversation to have you know, which could I mean you could spend all day talking
10:01But I think as well that he typifies a people that have had to overcome nature
10:07Yeah, and have had to ask themselves very hard questions. I don't think they've had the answers yet
10:13Yeah, but they have definitely become very disenchanted over many generations and it's coming to a head with him
10:20I think he's got a lot to
10:23Everything that Muriel has done up until now. Yeah, I think he's got to answer for yeah, I think as well
10:30So there's a lot of responsibility and accountability and things that he didn't do
10:34I mean this so he's showed some impulse control and yet by proxy he has to sort this mess out
10:41So it is a lot of responsibility. It is those it's not as cut-and-dried as oh, you know
10:45Some people say he's Machiavellian which of course Nicola Machiavelli that was
10:49He wrote that as a kind of survival guy didn't he in very precarious times he gets a bad rap as well
10:54Yeah, so it's you know, it's a very I think a deeply misunderstood character
10:58Totally I understand the politics of Middle-earth and but I want to ask you is catering to the old and new fandoms
11:04Because there's that loyal Tolkien fandom. They're also the new ones who are being ushered in
11:10How do you balance that? Also, this is a world that you're ushering in this new fantasy world
11:15So what is like I think it's always to find like an edge, I mean like
11:21To balance a fine line between everything and yeah, you you know
11:25You pay attention to the fan base to to everything that's being said and then you try to do you something that really works
11:32That's really good. I think you have to serve the story first and foremost
11:36I mean, I think it's easy to be distracted by
11:39You know what?
11:40Everyone wants it to be or thinks it should be yeah, but I think you have to serve both audiences
11:45so absolutely
11:47we have all of the the the characters that are known the Easter eggs for
11:52Loyalists and and fans who know this intimately
11:55But I often think to be honest about my mother my mother watches the show and my mother has never read the books
12:01And she has never seen the movies and I want her to be able to also understand and follow along and enjoy
12:06So I think you can service both audiences
12:09But I think first and foremost it's it's honoring the story that Tolkien
12:13Sort of or the the world that he created and it's staying true to the characters. Absolutely
12:18And I think we can all you know, everybody can relate
12:21Every species in it's a very heterogeneous world. Yes
12:25It's also a fantastical world as with fantasy that you can not only lose yourself
12:30But you can imagine yourself as being a better version of yourself, you know
12:34So you can maybe write some wrongs in your own imagination
12:40Kind of created history also because you're the first act of color as an elf
12:45Also when you started you said when you had first read the Lord of the Rings you were like I can relate to this world
12:52What was that because that statement of yours really intrigued me, you know, I I come from a very
12:59Humble poor community in Puerto Rico in the mountains
13:03And when I was growing up, this is pre tick-tock pre Instagram for everything and even on top of that, you know
13:08I was very poor. So we really didn't have a TV or anything like that. So I spent a lot of my time
13:14And we had like we there was electricity rationing
13:17So we get like three four times a week that they would take electricity away
13:20So that forces you to be interacting with nature all the time
13:23so I had this beautiful relationship with nature like one of my like truly that I
13:27Still think of my one of my childhood friends was this big mango tree
13:31That I would go and like at the end of the day climb and I get emotional
13:36it's like I still visit when I go back home and I visit my tree in that relationship of
13:42reverence to nature and
13:44understanding my place
13:47Of in within the ecosystem of it all because I think us humans we have this illusion that we are above
13:54Things but we are within yeah
13:57Yeah, that is something that when I saw Tolkien is it this deep in that message, especially the elves, you know
14:03The nature is paramount nature in his mother. Yeah, you know
14:07So I I found there a lot big kinship with these beings and I felt
14:13Represented in that like spiritual
14:16Ideological way yet not in a visual way. So it became a life mission
14:23You've managed to manifest it also like yeah and just because just like I don't do I'm gonna tell you I
14:29Know not taken off for an answer
14:31Life is very short and very fleeting and I have very strong convictions and I believe that I could do it
14:36And I've shown you that I could do it and there's still more
14:41Absolutely
14:43Theo you're a singer and a bro. I hope they'll make you sing
14:46I
14:48Don't know that'd be great. That would be great. I don't know if Theo would get up to that kind of thing. I mean
14:54He's just he's too mad at everything to maybe just calm down in the forthcoming season
15:00Yeah, actually there was a there was a scene that was originally in the first season and they got cut and as there's a scene
15:06of Theo sleeping and one when singing him a lullaby and
15:10And
15:11but I think you would because I think you're growing like like a very like you're growing in leadership and like
15:17All these leaders like sang battle song
15:20Yeah, I'm giving
15:23Yeah, we need to get him singing. I mean maybe I mean I love it in real life
15:27So, I mean what but what was it like revisiting your character because you know first when you started no one knew because these were
15:34Characters created for the show. Yeah, then you have no references
15:37I mean, this is for both of you, but then you find your way your own interpretation of what these guys would be like
15:43So what was it like for you? I mean
15:46JD and Patrick make it so easy for us. You know, they've they've given us so much depth
15:52yeah, just in the writing that there isn't too much more that we have to get into but I
15:58think being
16:00it takes a long time to shoot a TV show and you can't help but fall in love and
16:08Really respect your character deeply when you spend so much time with them. So just naturally without effort
16:15It gets to a point now where it's like we could be away from our characters for a year a year and a half
16:20But that moment we step on set we are so deeply connected
16:24That it just it just turns on. I think the one of the biggest things for me is I've been acting I
16:30Since just about the same time that he started acting like 40 instead of 12. So I think I started at 14
16:36And I think one of the best one of the biggest assets that I've received as an actor is the
16:40Compassion that you have to have for your characters
16:43It doesn't matter what they've done what it's not your responsibility to judge morally
16:47Your character is to have compassion and empathy and ask why why why?
16:52So that you know coming back and being able to ask more why why what and what you're talking about the aspect of
16:59Representations and we're talking about that
17:00We don't get often chances to go deeper and deeper and deeper and show characters people that are like us
17:06I look like us in the most human ways
17:09So coming back for a second season and having that opportunity to even show you more of what we are
17:16Like in all the layers mistake because we both make a lot of mistakes our characters like we have such what such complexity
17:23It's been so great. It's been so great for people to see me and be inspired by that
17:28But she's a young person also coming up and showing all the colors and you'll see a lot more of this one
17:35Hopefully we're manifesting that he sings as well. Yeah
17:38I wish we're talking about
17:40Manifestation and we just spoke that how I was from India you've as he said you've shared screen space with one of our national
17:47Treasures, I mean tell us a bit about that Priyanka Chopra. What was it? Like it was everything and more
17:54She is just one of the most incredible actors actresses artists
17:58I was a fan. I'm telling you like because I'm also I mean, I I I have a whenever I do a long-haul flight
18:05I try to at least to sneak in what Bollywood movie really? Oh, I love it. I mean you should see my youtube search
18:11What's on top of it?
18:12I mean one of one of my favorite one of my favorite like dance sequences that I like with my friends that one of my
18:18first one I obsessed with is being up that that that
18:22Priyanka does like 10 years ago. I was like, what is this?
18:26And suddenly I ended up doing a movie also with Amazon and prime video Amazon MGM
18:31I called a bluff with her and she's the ultimate lead and she just I can speak for ages
18:37But she is the epitome of an artist of a leader
18:42The charisma the
18:44The the humanity but also she's just like ready to go for it. She does all her stunts
18:50She doesn't care and she like makes you mix everyone feel welcome. So I'm very grateful. I'm very grateful
18:57I hope that the the tour takes me to India so that I can
19:01She can dance to they see girl or maybe we will done, you know
19:05Someday, I think I listen. I I'm available. I would love to be one movie like that
19:12But coming back to the Lord of the Rings have you learned Elvis what was it like learning?
19:17I wish I was wonderful. I wonder actually I did not know that I was gonna be so good at it. I'm good
19:22I'm sorry, I have to be
19:27Because it's a phonetically my first language is Spanish so phonetically actually allows me to to code read quite a bit there's some
19:36minor changes here and there but it's just beautiful and it's one of those languages that
19:40Lyrically what it sounds the sound gives you the feeling so you don't have to be understanding exactly what it is
19:45You feel you feel?
19:48What the message is carried? So what the message carries? So it's a beautiful beautiful
19:56Do I speak any Elvis I mean no, I mean I think the
20:03We did it we did a little game the other day and I was horrible
20:07It just said a bunch of words. I'm like Elvis. You lost each question
20:12I think maybe I think I got maybe one
20:15Yeah, that's not me. So my last question. What if you had the ring of power? What is that one thing you would do?
20:23Sell it
20:28No, I I am transparent I think I think that that ring is way too strong
20:33I think I would it wouldn't go. Well, I don't think it will go. Well, I think I don't there has the ability to maybe go
20:40evil
20:42So, what does it mean like this mammoth task at season two, which I thoroughly enjoyed
20:47Oh, thank you. You know, basically just just think it's a very daunting task because you're recreating a world where there's no reference
20:54Just creating a world of your own. What has it been like, you know, you take it on one day at a time
20:59my
21:00My co-showrunner Patrick often says, how do you need it? How do you eat an elephant one bite at a time?
21:06I mean not that I've ever had the experience of eating an elephant
21:11But um, so every day we look at the task in front of us and we just say what can we accomplish that day?
21:17And sometimes it's you know, writing a storyline. Sometimes it's conceiving of a whole arc. Sometimes it's you know, choosing one person in terms of casting
21:25Oftentimes, it's many different things that day
21:26But each day is its own challenge, you know filled with all kinds of different interesting creative opportunities
21:31I'm sure and Nori and Poppy. I'm gonna call you by your screen names
21:35Yeah, I mean you were characters that were written for the series now having lived them over
21:40Say, you know two seasons. Have you understood them more and how do you relate to them?
21:47Yeah, definitely. I think what's so amazing is I've never done a season two of something
21:53and so I've never had the experience of coming back to a series after a period of time and I kind of found that I
21:59Really had to learn how to trust myself and that the work that I'd done for season one still remained within me
22:05And sort of refinding her and actually realizing that she was still within me somewhere
22:10And also, I mean the love that I have for Markella, you know, it's still there and was always there
22:16So, you know that that side of things was very easy to pick up and what about you Markella?
22:21I mean, yeah, I mean, I think something obviously it's been a few years
22:25So I've we've grown as people as well
22:28So there's a certain amount of life experience that you can bring to the characters now as a second season
22:33Which is really exciting too and the characters are in a completely different place. So it was also I
22:39Think we got asked like what was a challenging part of it?
22:42And I've just realized this now as well
22:43Just mapping out where the character is when we pick up with her and building that backstory of what happened in between
22:50was also really important and
22:53Yeah, I heard that it resonates and so much of each of them is in their characters too, you know
22:57We had some ideas for what they would be that but as soon as we cast them and the characters changed again
23:01You know like Megan brought bring such a fun dry humor. Yeah to populate like that that shifted from our initial
23:08Interpretation then once we saw like exactly what her interpretation was just like oh wow
23:12That's such a cool register to put her in so we really leaned into that
23:14I know it's funny that I know you all by your screen names
23:17I'm like, I'm just talking to everyone like you know, hi Theo, you know
23:22It's interesting in Tolkien's worse. The women were a little underrepresented, you know, but I find here
23:27There's a very strong representation and you've also got Charlotte on board
23:31Do you think there was a change in perspective in terms of her vision? These are we say had you directed it?
23:38Well, I mean, I don't have Charlotte's skill set or
23:44But she's wonderful to work with me we had her for two episodes in the first season episode six and seven which we ended up
23:50Absolutely loving and so he said yes more of that
23:53Please and brought her back as a producing director season two to direct four episodes
23:58which would stretch any human being and Charlotte handled the
24:01pressure with enormous grace and poise and
24:04It was able to deliver
24:06Both the beginning of the season and at the end of the season in a way that was absolutely spectacular
24:10We can't wait for people to see it. Awesome. And what about you the women, you know, as I say in Tolkien's worst
24:15So what was it like playing these two adorable?
24:18Half-foot girls were absolutely I think that I love the duality to them both
24:24I just think that they're very dynamic and they don't they're not one or the other they're not like just very sweet and then that's
24:30it they're sweet, but they're also resilient and stoic and
24:35Challenging and irritating and irritable
24:38but very loving and very caring so I just love that they're multifaceted and
24:43It feels very if it feels very truthful and that's a credit to the show and isn't directors
24:47Yeah, I completely agree. They're sort of well-roundedness is a
24:52real testament to the writing and the character creation as well and you know, it's as sort of JD said already like the
25:01Because there's also elements of us within the characters, too. I really feel I can really feel that whenever I play Poppy
25:07obviously, she is her own entity, but yeah, and it's it's it's a real honor to
25:13Be part of this project and to be working in this industry and also to be supported by the people that we're supporting with
25:21We're in such great company. Yeah, and I can't thank everyone enough
25:26Some lovely chatting with you. I can see that in the work and
25:32Can't wait to see season two, yeah, thank you so much and all the very best
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