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00:00Hi everyone. Hi sir. Can you guys go and step off the plane for me please. Yes. All of us? Yes. Okay. I have two more kids in the back.
00:30Here? Okay. All of us? Yes.
00:50Are you going to have bags? Yes, I do. Are they in here or? I have one here. Okay.
00:57Ladies and gentlemen, I know we live in a social media age, but do me a favor and put your phones away.
01:22All right. I need a charger, this, a jacket.
01:33Where are you going? Is that it? Yeah. Why do I have to get up? Do you have a problem with me and the person?
01:51Right. I'm going to talk to them. No, they can stay on the plane. I don't have the problem. Why do I need to go down?
01:58I'm going to talk to them. Okay.
02:30All right. So it started, I went to the bathroom and then, you know, I just kind of stood outside the bathroom just to relax my legs.
02:40I was just there by coincidence. Okay. Probably my son was looking for me, just was crossing the aisle.
02:48And then in front of my face, okay, in front of my face, the flight attendant holding him, shaking him, okay, shaking him like this.
02:57And he didn't know that I'm his father. And I'm like, hey, hey, hey, what are you doing? What are you doing? Leave my son alone.
03:03No, he's walking around. You cannot do that. Start screaming, cursing me. Okay. Fuck you. This, that, coming to my face, cursing my wife.
03:12Okay. He's like, no, we'll talk with your seat. Now, I'm going back to the seat. This guy come and scream at me, keep screaming.
03:22It's the flight attendant. Same flight attendant held him like this. It's a male.
03:28Lance, let me ask you a question. Did you have cameras on the aircraft? One second, one second.
03:35I'm telling you exactly from the moment that it started. And, you know, listen, sir, officer, I see somebody shaking my son.
03:43I'm like, I'm losing it, you know?
03:48I came out of the bathroom or stood, no, I stood outside just to relax my legs.
03:51I was there by coincidence. He didn't know that it's me. Okay. He didn't know that I'm his father.
03:58Now, my son is crossing the aisle to look for me probably. And then I see him doing this.
04:03I'm like, you cannot touch my son, you know? In a very brutal way. Very brutal way.
04:09And then the way he screamed, the whole plane heard it.
04:11Then I'm going back to my seat, you know, talking to my wife. We speak Hebrew, so I spoke to Hebrew.
04:17Another guy from three seats after him told me, did you see this guy shut the fuck up?
04:25And I was like, if I don't want to shut up, what are you going to do?
04:31Random passenger from the third row.
04:35So that's what happened. And then I'm hearing that the plane landed. I'm like, the plane is going to land.
04:42Okay, I'm like, for me, it's a joke.
04:48And I just want to know who's this guy because I want to sue him.
04:54He was going to the restroom, you know?
04:57Was there any previous history?
04:59Nothing, nothing.
05:01It was just when you were at the bathroom?
05:02Nothing, nothing.
05:03That's it.
05:04Over aggravation, this guy. That's why I said if they have camera, they can see it.
05:09Even if we did, my son was back and forth. Let's say he's six and a half years old.
05:14Where are you coming from, like, taking him like this and shaking him?
05:18Tell me, any other father wouldn't be upset?
05:22He's asking you questions. Relax.
05:23He's upset. I tried to calm him down.
05:25But the situation with the people surrounding us, starting, you know, to feel uncomfortable.
05:31So do you feel like because of your argument with that passenger, that's why they...
05:34No, I didn't argue with the passenger. I just told him.
05:36No, with the flight attendant.
05:37He cursed me out.
05:38What are you going to do?
05:39Very aggravation.
05:40The flight attendant was very brutal and aggressive.
05:43Very aggressive.
05:44And then I'm hearing that we landed.
05:46Instead of relaxing the situation like me and the other flight attendant we were trying to do...
05:52I called the...
05:54She asked?
05:55She's the manager.
05:57And I told her, I explained the situation.
05:59She tells me, hey, you know, we have to be quiet.
06:01I told her, hey, you know what? I'll be quiet. I just need his name.
06:03Which one was that? Was she the older one with brunette hair?
06:06No, blonde hair.
06:07Blonde.
06:08A little pony, how do you call it? A little this.
06:11And very nice.
06:14She even asked me, she told me, you guys need to go to the back of the aircraft.
06:20I explained her that...
06:21Yeah, I don't want to be with this guy.
06:24But then I told her, listen, I'm going to take the responsibility to make sure everybody's coming down.
06:29You don't need to move us.
06:30She said, fine, don't worry.
06:32Stay here and we're going to figure it out.
06:35Two minutes later, the pilot saying we're landing.
06:38I'm like...
06:39And I got to go home already.
06:41I have to be home.
06:43They have school.
06:44Why? They just let the plane now continue?
06:46So when it's a divert like that, they will drop the passengers off.
06:49The plane will continue.
06:50No.
06:51So for the evening, I don't have a plan.
06:54No, I have to be home.
06:55All the flights might be done.
06:57Of course.
06:58You might have to rebook for tomorrow.
07:00That's what happens usually with something like a divert.
07:03But this is crazy.
07:04It's usually something...
07:05But this is crazy.
07:06Dump people off and then they continue what it is.
07:09That's a good question.
07:10The aircraft is still here.
07:12There is a way we can go on this flight?
07:14So usually when the pilot deems it a divert and they drop off, it's up to the pilot.
07:19And the flight attendant, the guy that starts everything, he's going to fly.
07:24It doesn't make sense to me.
07:25The guy that shook him like this?
07:28No, I want him down also.
07:30He needs to be investigated too.
07:31No, he needs to be.
07:32My partners are talking to him right now.
07:33Good, good, good.
07:34So if he's...
07:35The guy is coming out.
07:36The guy is coming?
07:37So usually when something like this happens in the air, the FBI will come out and then they'll also investigate it as well.
07:42Because if it's in the air, it's better.
07:44When it's on the ground, local.
07:46Right.
07:47I'm basically gathering your information, hearing your story.
07:49I'll explain to the FBI agent.
07:50He'll probably look through it.
07:52It was just a winter break in L.A. in school.
07:56I need to go back and...
08:00I'm sure if you check on him on American Airlines, you're going to see more reports.
08:04He was overwhelmed with his attitude.
08:07Over, over, over.
08:09I got my guy back there.
08:10Okay, good.
08:11So the other guy is FBI?
08:13No, that's my partner.
08:15He's local.
08:16He's with me.
08:17The FBI is on call.
08:19So what happens is when we got this call, we notified them on the phone, and then they have to drive down here.
08:24Even if we look...
08:25Even if we are fine and everything is...
08:28Why did they not fly back home?
08:30And I'll stay.
08:31I'll stay, okay?
08:32I'll stay.
08:33Have you seen this trip?
08:34Can you imagine?
08:35We didn't even get home from school.
08:37I mean, well, we can talk to the FBI, and then hopefully the plane will stay here, and then maybe.
08:42But I say maybe just because, like I told you before, if the pilot says no, there's really nothing the FBI or me can do about it.
08:50Because it's technically his plane, you know?
08:52No, I understand.
08:53Maybe you can shoot that towards them, you know?
08:56Kind of see if they're...
08:57I need to do it?
08:58No, no, no. You just relax. You guys just hang out, and we'll just communicate.
09:01That way there's no...
09:02Yeah, I mean, if he's...
09:03Just let him continue back home. I'll stay.
09:05No, I'm not going to leave my husband here by himself in Albuquerque.
09:09No, mommy, no.
09:10You know?
09:14What, they're going to arrest you for doing nothing?
09:17What are you going to do?
09:18They're not going to arrest me for what? What did I do?
09:20If someone needs to be arrested, it's this guy.
09:26I didn't threaten nobody, and I didn't do nothing.
09:29And I didn't come, and I didn't hit nobody.
09:31I was protecting my boy.
09:33And I'll keep doing so, okay?
09:35From someone's doing this to your son, what would you do?
09:39I was shocked.
09:40You know?
09:41Just going to the restroom.
09:42Six years old. Look at him.
09:44I was shocked.
09:45At least tell him.
09:47Sorry, go to your seat. Come to me. I'm the mother. Talk to me.
09:51You know, be nice.
09:53Be welcoming. Be... something.
09:56Instead of that, he decided to be very violent in this situation.
10:01Like I said, we'll get it all figured out.
10:03Yeah, yeah, I know. I just, the only thing is, for me, I'm going to go home.
10:07Already three weeks out of the house.
10:10Yeah, no, no, we'll see what we can do.
10:12Like I said, but there is no guarantee.
10:14No, no, I understand.
10:15I'm not going to guarantee nothing.
10:16No, no, I understand completely.
10:18Whatever I need to do, I'll do. Of course.
10:21Yeah, but you guys are more alone. Just hang out here.
10:24There was a way to...
10:25Take a breath and relax a little bit.
10:28I need to smoke my electronic cigarette.
10:30You cannot do it with your cat in here.
10:32No, there is no way to lick the cigarette.
10:34No, because if you leave, you have to come back for security.
10:36And they're not even going to let that happen because you're not a ticketed passenger.
10:39No, I have nothing.
10:42So, hold off on that.
10:43So, so much.
10:49I'm not sure I heard...
10:51Oh, I heard him saying...
10:54What did he say?
10:57Don't...
10:58He said something like, don't, ma'am.
11:00Don't, ma'am.
11:01He said something like, sir, please.
11:03Something about being a bum or...
11:04We weren't talking about the threats against me.
11:06He made threats against the other one.
11:08Oh, about shooting him?
11:09Yeah.
11:10Oh, yeah, I heard that.
11:11That makes sense.
11:12Okay.
11:13So, what exactly did...
11:16Transpire?
11:17Yeah.
11:18Well, just in that short time between...
11:20I'm sorry.
11:21He claims that another passenger...
11:23The kid was...
11:24The little boy, apparently, was running.
11:28He was sprinting to the cockpit of that...
11:30Well, a little girl.
11:31The little girl was up there at least six or seven times.
11:33Six or seven times to the daughter,
11:35was up and down and up and down and up and down.
11:37And then, finally,
11:39he started yelling at this other passenger
11:42because he's saying, you touched my child,
11:45you shook my child or something.
11:47So, I didn't see any of that or hear any of that.
11:49I don't know if you guys did.
11:51Maybe people in the back did.
11:53I had earplugs.
11:54Okay.
11:55But he was like, oh, don't touch my kid.
11:57You know, you touch my kid again.
11:59What did he say exactly?
12:00Something like, I'll shoot you?
12:01I heard it was even after that.
12:03He had said,
12:06I know who you are now,
12:07I know how to find you,
12:08and I'm going to shoot you.
12:10Do you have a driver's license on you, sir?
12:14I say this speech to loads and loads of people
12:17from all walks of life.
12:19Because to me and him,
12:22we do this kind of thing all the time.
12:24To you, like you said,
12:25you don't have a momentum history,
12:26you're a regular businessman.
12:29You're not.
12:30You're maybe not.
12:32I just want to make sure that you understand
12:34what the process is and what we're getting at.
12:36Okay?
12:37So, I've got the facts from you.
12:40Okay?
12:41And I've got the accurate information in case
12:43I'm not going to tell you what they said or didn't say.
12:45And I wouldn't tell them what you said or didn't say.
12:47Let me ask you a question.
12:49If they do it before the other,
12:52like we are the passengers, right?
12:54And they are the flight, the crew.
12:57Obviously, they have the access to call you
13:00and press charges on us, for example.
13:02No, no, no.
13:04I don't want to get into a big debate about the law
13:06because I'm not a lawyer.
13:07And so my legal advice does not work.
13:09But in the criminal system,
13:11that would be true if they were going to sue you.
13:13Okay?
13:14On the civil side of the law.
13:15On the criminal side of the law,
13:17at least on the federal side,
13:19somebody else doesn't get to press charges.
13:22That's what I was explaining to Shomi.
13:25The federal prosecutor reviews the facts
13:27and decides, hey, has a federal law been broken?
13:31Okay.
13:32Right?
13:33And to get into technicalities,
13:35in case you're interested,
13:36is that when you're on an airplane,
13:37an airline airplane,
13:38with the doors closed,
13:40it's the jurisdiction of the federal government,
13:42which is why I, as an FBI agent,
13:44I'm out here right now to talk to you guys
13:46and hear what you guys have to say.
13:48All right?
13:49And that's why it's a federal statute.
13:52It's a federal statute,
13:53and the federal prosecutor,
13:54you know, I came out here a few weeks ago,
13:56there's an incident with the door open,
13:58and then it's up with the police department
14:00and our district attorney's office
14:01and it decides what state charges.
14:03But that's getting into, like,
14:04some really boring technicalities, you know?
14:06So what are we doing in the meantime?
14:11What you're doing in the meantime,
14:12you mean from right now?
14:13That's up to you.
14:14Because I'm not going to detain you.
14:16No.
14:17You guys are going to be in an airplane.
14:19No, but we're going on the airplane,
14:20or we're not going on the airplane.
14:21That's up to the airline.
14:22Okay.
14:23That's up to the airline.
14:24So right now they have said
14:25that you're not allowed to get on the plane.
14:27That's correct.
14:28They said 90% of the cases.
14:30They're right.
14:31They're fueling up and they're going to leave.
14:33So you are welcome to talk to the airline representatives
14:36and see if they'll re-book you,
14:38but I don't know.
14:39That's none of my business.
14:40And the guy that's really put a lot of threat
14:42on a lot of people,
14:43he's flying back to LA.
14:44Well, you know, that's their job, not my job.
14:47Because they're working with you.
14:48My job is to gather facts.
14:50What's up with our facts?
14:52That's a question for the airline.
14:54I don't know.
14:55Okay, so we might ask.
14:57So what we can do once you're done speaking with him,
14:59what we will have to do is
15:01we'll have to escort you guys
15:02to the unsecure side of the airport.
15:04This is the secure side of the airport.
15:05No problem.
15:06You can talk to an airline representative on that side.
15:08They can either try to re-book you for tomorrow.
15:10You're more than welcome to probably get a hotel,
15:13Uber, taxi, get whatever you guys need.
15:17Or you can stay in the airport
15:19as long as it's on the other side.
15:21Okay.
15:22Until your next flight.
15:23Like when I need to do check-in.
15:25Yes.
15:26Okay.
15:27All right.
15:28So now we're in New Mexico.
15:29But as of right now,
15:30they're not letting you guys fly.
15:31No problem.
15:32I understand that.
15:33All right.
15:35So, yeah.
15:36So that's where we stand for now.
15:38If I need to get back in touch with you,
15:40we'll give you a call.
15:41No problem.
15:42Okay?
15:43In case we need to talk to you again for whatever reason.
15:45But for right now,
15:46if you guys are done with them,
15:48like I said,
15:49we'll just have to escort you to the other side.
15:52No problem.
15:53No problem.
15:54All right.