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00:00Noor Alam has said that my party did not ask me to take back the matter of the larger bench.
00:11Because there were rumours that the party might ask him to take back the money.
00:16Secondly, he is saying that there is no age limit in this.
00:23Do you think that Noor Alam's bill will have a retrospective effect?
00:40You should read Noor Alam's bill which is increasing in the number of judges.
00:45It is very interesting.
00:48In that, the retrospective appeal, as you can tell better,
00:52the bench that makes the decision first listens to the retrospective appeal.
00:56Now, in this amendment, a bigger bench will listen to the retrospective appeal.
01:00And it is also being said that it will be applied in the past.
01:03So, what can be the purpose of this?
01:05What can be the purpose?
01:07A special session has been decided.
01:11We have to see whether it will have an effect or not.
01:16But apparently, it will have some purpose.
01:19So, Noor Alam is suddenly saying that it is an order of the day.
01:24And there is an increase in the number of judges.
01:28So, now the government is playing technically, in other words.
01:32Can we say this, Mr. Asnath?
01:34You can also add that the government is going to support an amendment of the JUI.
01:43A while ago, Senator Fnan was saying that the rest of the members of the PTI,
01:47who have not written PTI in their nomination papers or in their signatures,
01:53we can request them.
01:55Look, it is the judgment of the Supreme Court.
01:57According to the judgment of the Supreme Court, they should declare PTI.
02:01As I said, there is a confrontation.
02:04On one hand, there is a policy of keratin and stick.
02:06On the other hand, there is an attempt to negotiate with Mansoor Ali Shah.
02:10Who wants to negotiate?
02:12The government wants to negotiate. Who else wants to negotiate?
02:14Has anyone reached out to Mr. Asnath?
02:16Look, you are telling us that efforts are being made.
02:19And there is only one apprehension of the government.
02:21That is the case of the Election Tribunal.
02:23As Mr. Asif has also said,
02:26it is being said that when the Chief Justices will be changed in October,
02:30the government will also leave.
02:32So, at the moment, the government has an apprehension.
02:34That is the case of the Election Tribunal.
02:36According to the Election Rigging, a Constitutional Petition is pending in the Supreme Court.
02:40Although, I don't think that Mr. Mansoor Ali Shah will be an agenda-driven Chief Justice.
02:44His focus will be on judicial reform.
02:46And this government is in a confrontation mode at the moment.
02:49This was the case in the era of Umar Atta Bandyal.
02:51But he is a future Chief Justice.
02:53He is a future Chief Justice.
02:55And there are four Chief Justices in the future.
02:57They are creating an atmosphere.
02:59I think that this will be a backfire for them.
03:01And this will be a huge loss for them.
03:03Because it seems that a Constitutional Amendment will not be possible.
03:07And there is no doubt about it.
03:09It is a huge advantage for the government.
03:11They will think that Chief Justice Qazi Faisal,
03:14in many cases,
03:16endorsed their point of view.
03:19Judges interpret the law according to their point of view.
03:23Yes, but the perception is very clear.
03:25Perception is sometimes greater than reality.
03:27Reality can be something else.
03:29Now, I will reiterate Senator Afnan's point.
03:33He says that according to the PTI Memorandum,
03:35they have only three seats.
03:38And they cannot vote based on the party policy.
03:41According to the party policy,
03:43these three seats will not be included
03:45if a Constitutional Amendment is introduced.
03:47So, if they are convinced in the two-thirds majority,
03:50can they also be included?
03:52There are eight such parties in the Parliament,
03:56which are still independent.
03:58So, the government may have a view on them.
04:01Let me tell you about the party position in the National Assembly.
04:07There are 213 government members.
04:09224 are needed for the two-thirds majority.
04:13Now, if the JUI supports this,
04:15or if the government and the JUI
04:16work together to introduce a Constitutional Amendment,
04:18then the JUI has eight members in the National Assembly.
04:20So, the government needs three members in the National Assembly.
04:23And the independent members?
04:25The government will try to include them.
04:27The government has all the resources.
04:29Now, it will be introduced next week.
04:32Are there any attempts to reach out to these members on the back channel?
04:36The government is saying that they have the strength.
04:39They can introduce a Constitutional Amendment.
04:41But the strength is not complete.
04:44It is not complete.
04:45It is not complete because the JUI will not fully support it.
04:50Even though they are introducing a Constitutional Amendment,
04:52the JUI has its members.
04:53Noor Alam Khan.
04:54And if the government supports it,
04:56Noor Alam Khan has said that the party has not asked him to withdraw the amendment.
05:02This means that the party supports it.
05:04Then there is a statement from Maulana Sahib,
05:06in which he has said that there will be a 12-year dispute.
05:08The solution will not be so soon.
05:10Maulana Sahib has met Shujaat Sahib today.
05:12And the media attack that he did was also a very mild media attack.
05:17It was not a matter of discrimination,
05:19not even in the context of the government.
05:21Maulana Sahib is a minister and a politician.
05:23He has made many exemplary decisions in the past.
05:26He can make any decision.
05:28He is the representative of the country.
05:30You have created an illusion that he can make any decision.
05:32Mr. Hassan, in the coming days,
05:34will we see the shape of the Supreme Court changing?
05:39Right now, there is a lot of confrontation.
05:43There is no clear picture in this.
05:45On the one hand, it is being said that Chief Justice Qazi Faiz does not want to take an extension.
05:49He will retire on 25th October.
05:51I think that the focus of the government is that
05:54Chief Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
05:56as it has been in the past,
05:58when a Chief Justice comes,
06:00an attempt is made to talk to him informally.
06:02Talk about some sensitive issues.
06:04Justice Qazi Faiz is the guarantee of this system.
06:08As long as he is there, this system will continue.
06:10If you look at the case of Election Tribunal,
06:12he has been suspended in the Supreme Court.
06:14He has got three seats in recounting.
06:18This is the decision of January 13th.
06:20So, there are issues with the arrival of Justice Mansoor Ali Shah.
06:23If he is resolved,
06:25This is the fear of the government.
06:27This is not a guarantee.
06:28This apprehension has been removed.
06:30So, I think that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah will be the Chief Justice.
06:32But one thing is that there is a division in the government.
06:36Should Justice Qazi Faiz be given an extension?
06:38No, a Chief Justice for three years.
06:40In the case of PTI,
06:42I am also a supporter of the government.
06:44But there are many other things
06:46on which they did not listen to the government.
06:49For example, the case of lease in Margalla.
06:51They said that thousands of acres of land cannot be given.
06:55Similarly, the case of Chief Justice in Lahore.
06:58The death penalty of President Musharraf has been appealed.
07:00So, these are the things.
07:02So, to give the impression that
07:04any judge is above the law in any way
07:06and is looking at the other side,
07:08that would be definitely wrong.
07:10But Mr. Hassanat Malik, thank you very much.
07:12Mr. Azhar Farooq, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
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