Hum Majboori Mein Hukoomat Mein Rahay, 8 Feb Ko Jo Election Howa Woh" Election" Nahi" Auction" Tha.
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00:00Hafiz Abdullah is with us. Thank you very much, Hafiz sahib.
00:03We are meeting again. Asad Qaiser has gone to meet Maulana Fazlur Rehman sahib.
00:07He is saying that this is a political issue. Whether it is a political issue or not,
00:11it is a political issue.
00:13But you had several meetings.
00:16Maulana sahib is saying that in the past, his experience was not good.
00:20So if the experience was not good, then why were you doing meetings for any unity?
00:30In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Thank you very much, Maria bibi.
00:34Maria bibi, fundamentally, we are talking about principles.
00:39In the context in which Maulana sahib said that in the past,
00:43the experience was not good and positive.
00:47That is in front of you. When PDM was formed,
00:50before PDM, Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Islam was running alone,
00:54after 25th July 2018.
00:57PDM was formed in September 2020.
01:00Immediately after 6 months, PDM was broken.
01:03Two parties came out, PP and ANP.
01:07Then 8 parties remained in PDM.
01:10Maulana sahib had joined them.
01:12If Maulana sahib had not been there,
01:14then the PDM on the rest of the communities could not have reached its destination.
01:19This unity.
01:21So, keeping them tight and joining them was a bad experience.
01:26I was in those meetings,
01:28that what difficulties did Maulana sahib endure.
01:31After that, we were in the government.
01:33There was a compulsion, we were on the basis of compulsion.
01:36Election took place.
01:37As a result of the election, this situation is in front of you.
01:40It was not an election.
01:41It was an auction in the name of election.
01:43As a result, Maulana sahib announced to run a movement throughout the country.
01:48As a result of the 8th February election,
01:50it was called the Dandani Zada.
01:52And instead of an election, it was called an auction.
01:54Maulana sahib announced it alone.
01:57After that, we were contacted by PTI.
01:59We were contacted again and again.
02:01And we gave a positive signal.
02:03We gave a positive signal that
02:05the fundamental thing that they appreciated us,
02:08Asad Qaisar was sitting in that meeting on behalf of Imran Khan.
02:12We have come here at the behest of Khan.
02:14We appreciate you.
02:16We support and support your position on the 8th February election.
02:22After that, a press talk was held.
02:24That press talk was held by me on behalf of the party.
02:26After that, the committees were formed.
02:29Fundamentally, where is the obstacle?
02:33The obstacle is that the real leadership of PTI is inside the jail.
02:38The rest of the leadership,
02:40you can guess from the Tharnau Jalsa.
02:44We will have a Jalsa, we will not have a Jalsa.
02:46We meet at 7 in the morning, we will not have a Jalsa.
02:49No, we will have a Jalsa.
02:51So, when the leadership is confused
02:55and does not know what the real thing is,
02:58we are ready to sit.
03:00But Hafez sahib, this Jalsa,
03:02this Jalsa,
03:04we cannot move forward without this.
03:06This Jalsa was held,
03:08we went to Imran Khan at 7 in the morning.
03:11With his permission and after his order,
03:14this Jalsa was held.
03:16The conversation with you was with the mandate of Imran Khan.
03:20So, you know that Imran Khan is in charge.
03:22If he is authorizing the community for meetings,
03:25then he has a motive behind it.
03:27Even then, you felt that he is confused.
03:33Absolutely.
03:34I just gave an example of the Tharnau Jalsa.
03:38What is the reason behind it?
03:40Why did they get confused?
03:42What did Azam Swati say?
03:44What did Alima Khan say?
03:47And the other leaders,
03:49and the head of Pakistan,
03:51the head of Pakistan,
03:53Mahmood Khan Achikzai sahib,
03:55they were against the decision of the Jalsa.
03:57And in the whole of Pakistan,
03:59every worker,
04:01listen to what they are saying on social media.
04:03What we say is that
04:05when you talk,
04:07at least you should not be confused.
04:10There is no one thing between you.
04:14When you meet,
04:16you say something.
04:18When you meet other leaders,
04:22based on that,
04:24you say something else.
04:26Now, we are surprised
04:28what we should say.
04:29And who should we believe to be right,
04:31and who should we not believe to be right.
04:33Therefore, the doors of Jamia Ulama-e-Islam
04:35are still open.
04:37For the connection.
04:38For that, we will have to sit officially.
04:41For that, we need a TR.
04:43By sitting on that TR,
04:45issue to issue, point to point,
04:47we can go ahead and talk.