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00:00:30Assalam-o-Alaikum, good morning, good morning.
00:00:34Pakistan, how are you?
00:00:36How are you? My hair is so bad today.
00:00:38Mashallah, my make-up artist has done a great job.
00:00:40So my mood is off.
00:00:42But this is a show that needs a mood off.
00:00:46So it will be fine. I won't have to act today.
00:00:49My hair is so bad.
00:00:51So anyway, today I was talking about the comfort zone.
00:00:56I will start like this in the morning.
00:00:58It is difficult to get out of your comfort zone and do any extra work.
00:01:05But how to make that comfort zone easy.
00:01:12How to get out of that comfort zone and make your work easy.
00:01:18People know this.
00:01:20For example, if you are earning money.
00:01:24And you are earning money with a lot of hard work.
00:01:27Then you find an easy way after a certain experience.
00:01:32That you can do the same thing in 5 minutes.
00:01:36So people say that need is the mother of invention.
00:01:41It is exactly like that.
00:01:43Whenever you get expertise in something.
00:01:48Then you look for easy ways for it.
00:01:51This is a positive thing.
00:01:53To look for easy ways.
00:01:55One thing is that what is in your limits.
00:01:59What is in your approach.
00:02:01A person never thinks that I have broken the moon.
00:02:06He dreams but it is difficult to break the moon.
00:02:09Because it is far from his reach.
00:02:11If you see what we do to make our life easier.
00:02:16For example, if we get married.
00:02:19Then we do it in our neighbors.
00:02:21That the girl who comes to our house can adjust in our house.
00:02:23Or if our girl goes to their house.
00:02:25If the environment there is like ours.
00:02:27Then they can adjust.
00:02:29School subjects.
00:02:31Or college or university subjects.
00:02:33We choose the subjects in which we are interested.
00:02:36And which we find easy.
00:02:38When there is interest, it will be easy.
00:02:40Similarly, there are other things in life.
00:02:44We think that this is easy.
00:02:46I put my hand on this.
00:02:48This is difficult.
00:02:49I should not put my hand on this.
00:02:50There are many such things in our life.
00:02:52When you see.
00:02:54You must have seen.
00:02:56To suppress some poor people.
00:03:00To scold them.
00:03:02It is easy.
00:03:04And there are some poor people who hug.
00:03:07So where do you put your hand?
00:03:09Where there is an easy target.
00:03:11Which you know that they can't do anything.
00:03:14They have nothing in their hands.
00:03:15So target them.
00:03:16Put all the blame on them.
00:03:18How many people kill.
00:03:20And put other people in their place.
00:03:24Because they are easy targets.
00:03:26They agree to some things.
00:03:28I am not talking about murder here.
00:03:31But I have brought such a topic here.
00:03:34Which we call harassment.
00:03:36And whether it is my grandmother.
00:03:38Her great-grandmother.
00:03:40Any time.
00:03:41Harassment I think.
00:03:43Since the time when men and women have come into this world.
00:03:46And Satan.
00:03:48Who is sometimes successful in instigating us from here and there.
00:03:53Since then harassment.
00:03:55Is happening in this world.
00:03:57Earlier it was not so open.
00:03:59Then it started to happen more.
00:04:01Whoever has the courage.
00:04:03He harasses accordingly.
00:04:05And the easy target they think.
00:04:07She is a woman.
00:04:08And that too a woman who is weak.
00:04:10Who is in need.
00:04:11Who does not speak.
00:04:13Who is helpless.
00:04:15Because of their other things.
00:04:17They are harassed by making them easy targets.
00:04:19Some people are quiet.
00:04:21Harassment keeps happening.
00:04:23Finally when they have control.
00:04:25Then they open their mouth.
00:04:27That for so many years.
00:04:29They have been harassed by different people.
00:04:31Now harassment can happen anywhere.
00:04:33You will be surprised to think.
00:04:35Harassment can also start from home.
00:04:37Harassment.
00:04:39God forgive.
00:04:41Harassment can be done by your father.
00:04:43Other relatives can also harass you.
00:04:45Then neighbors.
00:04:49Sometimes a woman.
00:04:51Can also harass a woman.
00:04:53Offices.
00:04:55College.
00:04:57University.
00:04:59Coaching center.
00:05:01Buses.
00:05:03Road.
00:05:05Bazaar.
00:05:07Your nearby shops.
00:05:09We have to do it.
00:05:11We cannot stop the harassers.
00:05:13God will guide them.
00:05:15But our generation.
00:05:17We can educate them.
00:05:19And we can make them understand.
00:05:21How to face the harassers.
00:05:23The weakness they see around them.
00:05:25We can turn that weakness.
00:05:27Into strength.
00:05:29If they are strong women.
00:05:31Then no one can even think.
00:05:33To point fingers at them.
00:05:35Stay with us after a short break.
00:05:37To hear such stories.
00:05:39That will surprise you.
00:05:41And how to protect yourself.
00:05:43And what steps to take.
00:05:45Maybe no one will tell you.
00:05:47But our guests will tell you.
00:05:49Good morning Pakistan.
00:05:59Today I have my guests.
00:06:01Very important guests.
00:06:03Because they are very busy.
00:06:05They take their time.
00:06:07I am thankful to them.
00:06:09I have with me.
00:06:11Kamil Arif.
00:06:13He is a reporter.
00:06:17I am his fan.
00:06:19He is on my show.
00:06:21How are you?
00:06:23I am fine.
00:06:25It is important to be a woman.
00:06:27And that too.
00:06:29From a profession.
00:06:31Who has harassment.
00:06:33She has reported many crimes.
00:06:35She does F.I.Rs.
00:06:37She must be familiar.
00:06:39With many things.
00:06:41Which a normal person.
00:06:43Is not familiar with.
00:06:45Shehla Qureshi.
00:06:47From SSP.
00:06:49AIG.
00:06:51Gender Crime.
00:06:53And Human Rights.
00:06:55Thank you for your time.
00:06:57You are welcome.
00:06:59You have selected a great topic.
00:07:01People who are not aware of harassment.
00:07:03Are not aware of it.
00:07:05Human Development Index.
00:07:07Did a survey.
00:07:0959% of women said.
00:07:11If our man does not hit us.
00:07:13Who will?
00:07:15Our education is.
00:07:17Hitting and harassment.
00:07:19Is a normal thing for women.
00:07:21Today's program.
00:07:23Is on a good topic.
00:07:25It starts from home.
00:07:27When your elders.
00:07:29Come home.
00:07:31Whether it is hitting or harassment.
00:07:33It is a bad thing.
00:07:35If a close relative.
00:07:37Harassed you.
00:07:39Even then.
00:07:41Your elders.
00:07:43Who are teaching us.
00:07:45When they come.
00:07:47And tell you to be quiet.
00:07:49They are normalizing one thing.
00:07:51A woman's voice is suppressed.
00:07:53Even if she is a girl.
00:07:55Last year.
00:07:57I attended a conference.
00:07:59On women's development.
00:08:01There was harassment.
00:08:03Digital harassment.
00:08:05Workplace harassment.
00:08:07Inside house harassment.
00:08:09There are multiple avenues.
00:08:11Where women can be harassed.
00:08:13With children.
00:08:15The voice is suppressed.
00:08:17A woman shared her story.
00:08:19She is from.
00:08:21A well-developed country.
00:08:23Her father raped her in her childhood.
00:08:25She was a class 8 student.
00:08:27There are many such incidents.
00:08:29Molestation.
00:08:31Harassment.
00:08:33And then.
00:08:35She commits a crime.
00:08:37All these angles.
00:08:39Should be kept in mind.
00:08:41In today's program.
00:08:43We will talk about it.
00:08:45The police reporting mechanism.
00:08:47And the initiatives.
00:08:49IGP Sindh has taken.
00:08:51I will talk to you.
00:08:53The video you are watching.
00:08:55It has gone viral.
00:08:57A man with a child.
00:08:59A woman in a burqa.
00:09:01On the road.
00:09:03There is a bazaar.
00:09:05She is going.
00:09:07A child is sitting with her.
00:09:09I have never seen this.
00:09:11This is not the first incident.
00:09:13There are many CCTV footages.
00:09:15Recently.
00:09:17There was an incident in Kurangi.
00:09:19She was arrested.
00:09:21She was arrested.
00:09:23These incidents are happening.
00:09:25These people are part of the society.
00:09:27These young men.
00:09:29They are mentally sick.
00:09:31Frustration.
00:09:33You can call it.
00:09:35You can call it anything.
00:09:37If you go to research.
00:09:39There is a big definition.
00:09:41In which.
00:09:43You said frustration.
00:09:45There is something going on.
00:09:47In the backdrop of everyone.
00:09:49The society we live in.
00:09:51The young man.
00:09:53He is under different pressures.
00:09:55This mobile.
00:09:57It has taken him somewhere else mentally.
00:09:59He is taking his things somewhere else.
00:10:01You saw.
00:10:03He has a child with him.
00:10:05It means he is a married man.
00:10:07If you go to the backdrop of this.
00:10:09He should not do this.
00:10:11A married man with a child.
00:10:13But our mental level.
00:10:15It has happened.
00:10:17There are a lot of men.
00:10:19Who are doing this.
00:10:21There are a lot of.
00:10:23Incidents of abuse with children.
00:10:25There are people of this kind of society.
00:10:27Now.
00:10:29The definition of harassment.
00:10:31We see the CCTV footage.
00:10:33The boy harassed the girl.
00:10:35But the definition of harassment.
00:10:37Is very big.
00:10:39Harassment is being done to women.
00:10:41Harassment is being done to men.
00:10:43Harassment is being done to children.
00:10:45Eventually.
00:10:47From the side of women.
00:10:49Boys and men are being affected.
00:10:51But we have.
00:10:53Harassment.
00:10:55By touching.
00:10:57By making noise.
00:10:59This is a part of society.
00:11:01I think it is very old.
00:11:03You say.
00:11:05CCTV camera.
00:11:07Social media.
00:11:09Mobile.
00:11:11Women make it themselves.
00:11:13You saw the video.
00:11:15The girl made a video of a boy riding a rickshaw.
00:11:17He was riding a motorcycle.
00:11:19He was following him.
00:11:21He was behaving strangely.
00:11:23It was a shameful act.
00:11:25There are people like this.
00:11:27But it is a parallel society.
00:11:29We don't talk in parallel.
00:11:31One side goes up.
00:11:33One side goes down.
00:11:35It will never end.
00:11:37It will never end.
00:11:39If someone is caught.
00:11:41If evidence is found.
00:11:43What does the police do?
00:11:45How long is the punishment?
00:11:47What are the laws?
00:11:49Basically.
00:11:51If we talk about existing laws.
00:11:53In Pakistan.
00:11:55In the penal code.
00:11:57Section 509 is applied.
00:11:59Everything is proven.
00:12:01Evidences.
00:12:03Primary evidence.
00:12:05Secondary.
00:12:07Digital.
00:12:09In this crime.
00:12:11Generally.
00:12:13We don't get evidence.
00:12:15For example.
00:12:17A man harassed me.
00:12:19Let's see from the window.
00:12:21How is the weather?
00:12:23He took him outside.
00:12:25He is watching him.
00:12:27He feels uncomfortable.
00:12:29This is psychological harassment.
00:12:31These things.
00:12:33They are torturing him.
00:12:35But he is not able to express.
00:12:37He is feeling uncomfortable.
00:12:39He is feeling harassment.
00:12:41How will he report?
00:12:43If he says.
00:12:45There is no evidence.
00:12:47It is difficult to convict him.
00:12:49But if we talk about the workplace.
00:12:51According to the law.
00:12:53There are committees in the workplace.
00:12:55If all these things are proven.
00:12:57He will be punished for 3 years.
00:12:59He will be fined 5 lakhs.
00:13:01He will be fined 5 lakhs.
00:13:03When he is punished.
00:13:05We don't have a psychologist.
00:13:07Or a psychiatrist.
00:13:09Because.
00:13:11That person.
00:13:13Is not normal.
00:13:15Because a decent.
00:13:17And normal person.
00:13:19Doesn't do this.
00:13:21When colleagues are together.
00:13:23They flirt.
00:13:25But the other person.
00:13:27Knows.
00:13:29That they are having fun.
00:13:31I will take this point.
00:13:33One point.
00:13:35What Shaila said is right.
00:13:37In offices.
00:13:39There is a record.
00:13:41Female staff is harassed.
00:13:43Because they are on a good post.
00:13:45They are on a lower post.
00:13:47There is a hiring authority.
00:13:49But.
00:13:51In many places.
00:13:53The girl has assumed.
00:13:55That her eyes are like this.
00:13:57She is assuming.
00:13:59That her intentions are like this.
00:14:01Even if she is.
00:14:03But she feels more.
00:14:05A little temperamentally.
00:14:07She hasn't said anything yet.
00:14:09By looking at her eyes.
00:14:11Or.
00:14:13By the way she looks.
00:14:15She is going towards harassment.
00:14:17Somehow psychology says.
00:14:19As you are thinking.
00:14:21The same thing starts happening.
00:14:23It is possible.
00:14:25A woman has observed.
00:14:27That her eyes are like this.
00:14:29Her eyes are reacting at this time.
00:14:31Mutually.
00:14:33Mentally.
00:14:35Sometimes there is a misunderstanding.
00:14:37To some extent I agree.
00:14:39But I will disagree with this.
00:14:41See inside a woman.
00:14:43If someone is watching from behind.
00:14:45God has given you.
00:14:47Inbuilt quality.
00:14:49If someone is harassing you from behind.
00:14:51You are not seeing.
00:14:53But you know.
00:14:55Good vibes.
00:14:57There is something wrong.
00:14:59You can't feel it.
00:15:01Men can't do this.
00:15:03Sorry to say that.
00:15:05Inside a woman.
00:15:07You are changing her.
00:15:09We are not arguing on this.
00:15:11I told you this happens.
00:15:13I have owned it.
00:15:15But in today's.
00:15:17Multinational companies.
00:15:19Such women.
00:15:21Are looking at men with the same eyes.
00:15:23You are not saying.
00:15:25This is wrong for both.
00:15:27If anyone does.
00:15:29But you ask them one thing.
00:15:31Legally.
00:15:33Men do not have such a law.
00:15:35Men can go against women.
00:15:37If there is injustice with men.
00:15:39The law is equal for everyone.
00:15:41Tell me one section.
00:15:43In which there is a section of injustice with men.
00:15:45Injustice with men.
00:15:47If a woman has done.
00:15:49Violence on a man.
00:15:51Or harassed him.
00:15:53I am telling you.
00:15:55I am telling you the cases.
00:15:57I am telling you the sections.
00:15:59Provincial ombudsman.
00:16:01We have a law for this.
00:16:03We have a federal legislation for this.
00:16:05I have many examples.
00:16:07In which men were harassed.
00:16:09Workplace harassment.
00:16:11I have many examples.
00:16:13In Punjab University.
00:16:15A woman accused.
00:16:17That she was harassed.
00:16:19She was harassed.
00:16:21She was harassed.
00:16:23There is a process of the committee.
00:16:25You file a complaint.
00:16:27In 7 days the committee reviews the complaint.
00:16:29She was called.
00:16:31It was not proved.
00:16:33She was falsely accused.
00:16:35She had a low score.
00:16:37She said she will play this card.
00:16:39I will get a good score.
00:16:41I will pass.
00:16:43The whole process took place.
00:16:45There is a nitty-gritty in the law.
00:16:47The complainant.
00:16:49The witnesses.
00:16:51Their rights are protected.
00:16:53If the complaint is true or false.
00:16:55The committee has to proceed.
00:16:57The punishment has to be decided.
00:16:59If the complainant has filed a false complaint.
00:17:01If the complainant has filed a false complaint.
00:17:03If the complainant has filed a false complaint.
00:17:05Normally if someone uses the law illegally.
00:17:07Normally if someone uses the law illegally.
00:17:09182 cases are filed.
00:17:11182 cases are filed.
00:17:136 months of imprisonment.
00:17:15But in this case.
00:17:17The committee is protected.
00:17:19If the action is not taken against the complainant.
00:17:21If the action is not taken against the complainant.
00:17:23If the action is not taken against the complainant.
00:17:25For any reason.
00:17:27For any circumstances.
00:17:29You cannot take action against the complainant.
00:17:31If it was kept that way.
00:17:33Then I could not prove.
00:17:35Then I would be punished.
00:17:37Witnesses or the complainant.
00:17:39Witnesses or the complainant.
00:17:41We need guidance.
00:17:43We have different cases.
00:17:45will tell us what should be done to protect the girls if this happens to them.
00:17:55We would like to take some guidelines from both of you.
00:17:59We have Yumna with us and Yumna will tell us what happened in her life.
00:18:04As-salam-Alaikum Yumna.
00:18:05Wa-Alaikum-As-Salam.
00:18:07I have been harassed by my grandfather.
00:18:12We are five sisters.
00:18:14After my father's death, my grandparents told us that we can't take your expenses.
00:18:21And since you are five sisters, we can't keep you in our house.
00:18:25So you should see to your separation and leave.
00:18:30My mother shared this with my grandparents.
00:18:33So my grandparents brought us to their house.
00:18:36My mother and us five sisters.
00:18:38When we shifted to my grandfather's house, there was an aunt there.
00:18:41All three of them were my aunts.
00:18:43They were not married.
00:18:45After 7-8 years, the aunts got married.
00:18:48The number of people in the house decreased.
00:18:50At night, I used to feel that there is something around me.
00:18:55Someone is touching me.
00:18:57At that time, I didn't realize that someone could harass me while I was in my grandfather's house.
00:19:03There was only my grandfather and no one else.
00:19:07We were all women.
00:19:09At that time, my mother started working.
00:19:12She was so tired that if she slept at night, she would wake up early in the morning.
00:19:18Time passed.
00:19:21One time, my grandfather touched me in such a wrong place.
00:19:24I got up out of fear.
00:19:26He put his hand on my mouth and pressed it hard.
00:19:29He threatened me that if I tell this to my mother or anyone else,
00:19:35I will bring all of you to the streets.
00:19:38I kept quiet.
00:19:40Time passed.
00:19:42One day, I got tired.
00:19:44I talked to my mother.
00:19:46She scolded me and made me shut up.
00:19:48She asked me how I could accuse my grandfather.
00:19:51I kept quiet.
00:19:53After 2-3 days, when things got worse for me,
00:19:57I pleaded my mother to wake up at night and see that thing.
00:20:02The night my mother saw that thing,
00:20:04she couldn't believe what her own father was doing to her daughter.
00:20:11Next, we went to our aunts.
00:20:15They started accusing us.
00:20:19They said that we were bad because we didn't have a father.
00:20:23They said that we needed these things.
00:20:25They said such bad things about us.
00:20:27When we went to our family,
00:20:29they said that these people do all these things to attract men.
00:20:37They are accusing our father.
00:20:40We kept quiet and didn't say anything.
00:20:42After that, my sister told me that we make videos of our grandfather.
00:20:49That night, my mother, sister and I all woke up.
00:20:53They made a video of our grandfather.
00:20:56After that, we went to our aunts.
00:21:00At first, our aunts didn't believe us.
00:21:03After that, they believed us.
00:21:05When we shared this with our grandfather,
00:21:08he said that she was his beloved daughter.
00:21:12Why would he do this to her?
00:21:14He said that he was used to sleeping with her.
00:21:17He changed the topic.
00:21:19He said that he was helpless and couldn't leave his grandfather's house.
00:21:23My mother told him to leave his things.
00:21:25She said that she would shift when the house was ready.
00:21:27She told him not to leave his things.
00:21:29My grandfather is not doing anything right now.
00:21:31But he has a fear in his heart that anything can happen.
00:21:37Do you live there now?
00:21:38Yes.
00:21:41What should he do now?
00:21:43This is a very exceptional case.
00:21:45On one hand, there is my grandfather and on the other, there is my grandchild.
00:21:48It is strange to think about it.
00:21:51This is not a common thing.
00:21:53You separate a man from a man.
00:21:57Exactly.
00:21:58This is a very exceptional case.
00:22:01I think this is better than the police.
00:22:04This is a family matter.
00:22:06It should be looked at at that level.
00:22:08Basically, the law is imposed on this because it is a criminal act.
00:22:12They have video evidence.
00:22:14If there is no evidence,
00:22:17she can go to the provincial or federal ombudsman.
00:22:20We have different platforms.
00:22:22We have the Sun Commission on the Status of Women.
00:22:24She can go there and report.
00:22:26But again, she is told that their financial circumstances are unstable.
00:22:30They will not be able to cope up.
00:22:32They do not have a place in the latter stage.
00:22:34The next phase of oppression will start with them.
00:22:38There are many such cases where there is domestic harassment.
00:22:42Most of the harassment cases are from known people.
00:22:47They can be family members or relatives.
00:22:51They can be from Mehram or non-Mehram.
00:22:53We are talking about the workplace.
00:22:55It is a very elaborate and vague thing.
00:22:58Who can harass whom?
00:23:00Nine out of ten women are harassed.
00:23:02But what is the severity of it?
00:23:05What is the degree of harassment?
00:23:06It needs to be understood.
00:23:08The case that this girl has pleaded,
00:23:10her grandfather is harassing her.
00:23:15She must report it to the Women and Child Protection Centre.
00:23:19They need counselling.
00:23:21They need psychotherapy.
00:23:23If she has a mental issue, get it treated.
00:23:26If she does not behave like this with her other sisters,
00:23:30do not do this to them.
00:23:32The more we suppress this issue, the more it will increase.
00:23:34There is no need to hide it.
00:23:36You should raise your voice.
00:23:38We will support them.
00:23:41The trauma that the girl is going through,
00:23:43is a secondary trauma.
00:23:45Her mother told her to be quiet.
00:23:47Time is being enforced.
00:23:49Stay quiet.
00:23:50Staying quiet is not the solution.
00:23:51It will aggravate the situation.
00:23:53She is saying something.
00:23:54Sorry to interrupt you.
00:23:56How can a mental patient harass his grandchild?
00:24:01He is a mental patient.
00:24:03If he was normal, he would never do it.
00:24:07Grandparents are like mothers.
00:24:11Grandparents are like mothers.
00:24:16This is not a normal behaviour.
00:24:20We need to address this.
00:24:22We are trying to get her treated.
00:24:25The room where she sleeps,
00:24:27should be locked.
00:24:29There is a strange phenomenon in our society
00:24:33regarding psychiatrists.
00:24:35I will discuss this after the break.
00:24:37Stay with us.
00:24:53We were talking about harassment.
00:24:55Kamil, you were talking before leaving.
00:24:57I interrupted you.
00:24:59Do you remember?
00:25:00Yes, I remember.
00:25:01I was saying that our society is such
00:25:03that we need to show psychiatrists to everyone.
00:25:10But we take psychiatrists as crazy people.
00:25:13Are you crazy?
00:25:15If I tell someone that
00:25:17I have an appointment with a psychiatrist
00:25:19and I am going for counselling,
00:25:21they will immediately say that I am crazy.
00:25:24But this is not the case.
00:25:26Everyone has different mental pressures.
00:25:30We need to talk to someone.
00:25:32We need a psychiatrist.
00:25:34In some cases,
00:25:36the parents are not bonding well
00:25:40and the child is not able to express himself.
00:25:42He is under mental pressure.
00:25:44He needs someone to express himself.
00:25:47What does a psychiatrist do?
00:25:49He just sits and listens to you.
00:25:51When your anxiety is gone,
00:25:53you will feel better.
00:25:55He has sessions.
00:25:57He doesn't do anything.
00:25:58He just listens.
00:25:59He listens as a doctor.
00:26:01In our society,
00:26:03there are so many elements
00:26:05that we are accumulating things
00:26:07and we are becoming mentally ill.
00:26:09That illness can go to any level.
00:26:11It can go to child abuse.
00:26:13It can go to injustice with the mother.
00:26:16It can go to violence with the wife.
00:26:18It can go to violence with the children.
00:26:21It can go to the road.
00:26:22It can fight with a man.
00:26:24Nothing will happen.
00:26:25The motorcycle will start fighting with someone.
00:26:29Basically, we need a psychiatrist.
00:26:32Let me tell you something.
00:26:33In the past,
00:26:34the organization I was working for years,
00:26:36there was a standard SOP
00:26:38that a psychiatrist was hired in the office.
00:26:40These days, it is in schools.
00:26:42What you are saying,
00:26:44the schools have understood this.
00:26:46Because customers get confused.
00:26:48If you hold on to the root since childhood
00:26:50that why is this child behaving like this in the class?
00:26:53He needs to go to the counselor once a week.
00:26:55So, these customers will not get confused.
00:26:57And a lot of children will improve
00:26:59before becoming an adult.
00:27:02Do you know?
00:27:03It has been so many years.
00:27:05Law has been made in the police.
00:27:07It is good.
00:27:08Punishment has been made.
00:27:09It is good.
00:27:10Assembly has been made.
00:27:11Harassment has been made.
00:27:12It is good.
00:27:13But at the national level,
00:27:14we have not hired a psychiatrist.
00:27:16Even today, the police does not have an official psychiatrist.
00:27:18We have.
00:27:19We do have.
00:27:20In the SSU,
00:27:21we have a psychiatrist.
00:27:23But it is at the police station level.
00:27:25We do not know.
00:27:26At the police station level,
00:27:27it can be at the district level.
00:27:29But at the organizational level,
00:27:30there is a psychiatrist
00:27:31once there is any need.
00:27:32Basically, it is under investigation.
00:27:33Apart from this,
00:27:34we have chiefs.
00:27:35We have CPLC.
00:27:36They are also there.
00:27:37If we need them,
00:27:38they come.
00:27:39Secondly,
00:27:40we have the Legal Aid Society.
00:27:42We have made different police stations
00:27:44as model police stations.
00:27:47And if there are any such issues,
00:27:48we refer them there.
00:27:49It is not only for the police.
00:27:51It is also for the public.
00:27:52All the aggrieved parties,
00:27:53grievances,
00:27:54people come to us.
00:27:55We have made the Baldia Police Station,
00:27:57Bodbesan,
00:27:58and in the district central,
00:28:00in Liaquatabad,
00:28:01we have a psychologist
00:28:02who visits us
00:28:03twice a week.
00:28:04And if anyone has any issues,
00:28:05we give them free psychosocial support.
00:28:07Now, I am moving towards the second case.
00:28:09We need your guidelines.
00:28:12I have Erum here with me.
00:28:14Erum, what would you like to share?
00:28:16Assalamualaikum.
00:28:17Walaikumassalam.
00:28:19I used to work in a private company's office.
00:28:22Say it louder, Erum.
00:28:24I used to work in a private company's office.
00:28:27We were six girls and six boys.
00:28:31We had a very good job.
00:28:34After some time,
00:28:36our boss,
00:28:37he started getting angry.
00:28:40He used to come and stand with us
00:28:43and ask,
00:28:44what are you doing?
00:28:45How are you doing?
00:28:46First, all the girls.
00:28:47Then, slowly,
00:28:48he started coming towards me.
00:28:50He came and asked me,
00:28:52how are you working?
00:28:54Don't do it like this.
00:28:55Do it like this.
00:28:56I said, sir, this is right.
00:28:57But, since he was the boss,
00:28:58I couldn't say anything to him.
00:29:01One day,
00:29:02I was working
00:29:03and he came and stood behind me.
00:29:05He asked me to come to his office.
00:29:06I went to his office.
00:29:08He asked me to complete the file
00:29:10and give it to him quickly.
00:29:11I said, okay.
00:29:12I was working
00:29:13and he came from behind
00:29:14and put his hand on my shoulder.
00:29:20After putting his hand on my shoulder,
00:29:22I got scared.
00:29:23I said, sir,
00:29:24what are you doing?
00:29:28He said,
00:29:29work quickly
00:29:31and complete this file.
00:29:34Then,
00:29:35I started working.
00:29:36I got scared.
00:29:37I got scared.
00:29:38But,
00:29:39I couldn't say anything.
00:29:40He was the boss.
00:29:42I just said, sir, please.
00:29:44He said, work quickly.
00:29:47Then,
00:29:48on the second day,
00:29:49when I went to the office again,
00:29:50in the same way,
00:29:51he did the same thing again.
00:29:53When I was working,
00:29:55he put his hand on my hand.
00:29:58Whenever I got scared,
00:30:00I put my hand behind.
00:30:02I said, sir,
00:30:03please don't do this.
00:30:04Otherwise,
00:30:05I won't be able to work.
00:30:08Then,
00:30:09he said,
00:30:10work.
00:30:12Otherwise,
00:30:13I will fire you.
00:30:15I was very worried.
00:30:16I said,
00:30:17if I lose my job,
00:30:18what will I do?
00:30:20It's not easy to get a job.
00:30:24Then,
00:30:25I kept working.
00:30:26He kept harassing me.
00:30:27He kept harassing me.
00:30:28Day by day,
00:30:29he kept harassing me.
00:30:30I kept spending my time.
00:30:32But,
00:30:33one day,
00:30:34he came to me
00:30:36and tried to
00:30:37remove my dupatta.
00:30:41I said, sir,
00:30:42what are you doing?
00:30:44I said,
00:30:45I shouted like I wanted to shout.
00:30:47Then, he said,
00:30:50if you shout,
00:30:51it won't be good.
00:30:53I will defame you
00:30:54at the office.
00:30:59If you are bad or wrong,
00:31:03he started accusing me.
00:31:06I got very worried.
00:31:09I took my bag in anger
00:31:12and went inside.
00:31:13Because I couldn't tolerate
00:31:14I was not able to digest it.
00:31:16I left the place.
00:31:26So you left the job?
00:31:28Yes, I left the job.
00:31:30Without any punishment?
00:31:32When you were afraid that you might lose your job.
00:31:36That's why you didn't say anything.
00:31:38But you didn't give them any punishment.
00:31:41For a person who does such things,
00:31:45it is a punishment to tell the world about it.
00:31:49I didn't have the courage.
00:31:51He was our boss.
00:31:52I just wanted to make a little noise.
00:31:55So he...
00:31:56Do you think the other girl who will replace you,
00:31:58won't do the same to him?
00:32:00You kept quiet and left.
00:32:04I feel that if you had insulted that person,
00:32:08you would have been careful not to do the same to anyone else.
00:32:12What I told you in the beginning,
00:32:14this is a common harassment.
00:32:16In small offices, this is a common harassment.
00:32:19Like I told you in the beginning,
00:32:21if there is an authority for hiring or firing,
00:32:23then it comes to harassment.
00:32:25But what you said,
00:32:27give them a shut-up call on the very first day.
00:32:29And I think give them a good shut-up call.
00:32:31So if you want to leave the job,
00:32:33After all, you have to leave the job.
00:32:35Then give them a good shut-up call.
00:32:37If you give them a shut-up call,
00:32:38then I think it will be an example for them too.
00:32:40And maybe the level of harassment will fall in that office.
00:32:42One person's sacrifice will definitely be made for the job.
00:32:45But the people who are coming,
00:32:46or women,
00:32:47a secure environment will be created for them.
00:32:48Because the one who starts touching like this,
00:32:50he is basically giving you ease from his side.
00:32:54That first hold the shoulder,
00:32:55then touched the hand.
00:32:56So he is giving you ease.
00:32:58He has to do such a thing after all,
00:33:01which you will not tolerate at all.
00:33:03Nida, in such cases,
00:33:04Basically, in the corporate sector,
00:33:06the environment is a little different.
00:33:08Like if this girl,
00:33:10at the same time,
00:33:11once I put myself in her place and think.
00:33:15So when you are in such an environment,
00:33:18and you are doing a job,
00:33:19and there is any untoward incident with you,
00:33:22you report it.
00:33:23So in the organization,
00:33:24this thing comes inside the girl,
00:33:25that I will be defamed.
00:33:26Exactly.
00:33:27The first thing is,
00:33:28I should take it out of me,
00:33:29that I will be defamed.
00:33:30The defamation will be of the one
00:33:31who is doing wrong with you.
00:33:32Yes.
00:33:33If you are right,
00:33:34then raise your voice.
00:33:35Number one.
00:33:36Number two,
00:33:37the organization in which she used to work,
00:33:38wasn't there a committee of harassment?
00:33:41That she would report her problem there.
00:33:45And if she was the boss,
00:33:46that is,
00:33:47she was in the senior executive position,
00:33:48and she could not do anything.
00:33:49And in the end,
00:33:50she completely suppressed her voice.
00:33:52And then finally,
00:33:53when she got out of tolerance,
00:33:54then she quit from there and left.
00:33:56Now the second aspect of this is that,
00:33:58wherever she will go to the next organization,
00:34:00because this is not a public sector,
00:34:01it is private,
00:34:02so her job tenure and safety is not there.
00:34:04So when she goes to the next organization,
00:34:06then she definitely gets feedback from there,
00:34:08in the previous organization,
00:34:09that where are you coming from,
00:34:10and what have you done today?
00:34:11Yes.
00:34:12So when she stays from there,
00:34:13then the girls keep their voice down out of fear,
00:34:15that if we talk or do more on this thing,
00:34:17if we highlight this thing,
00:34:18then what will happen ultimately?
00:34:20That their reputation will be ruined.
00:34:22And because this is such a phenomenon,
00:34:24that the girl is stigmatized,
00:34:26that yes,
00:34:27this will be wrong,
00:34:28she must have done something wrong.
00:34:29So what should be done?
00:34:30So the women do not speak.
00:34:31So for this,
00:34:32the safety in the law
00:34:33is to go to the committees and report.
00:34:35If you feel that you will not be given justice
00:34:37in the committee of that organization,
00:34:39then you should say that
00:34:40it is the office of the provincial ombudsman,
00:34:42it is the office of the federal ombudsman.
00:34:43What is this?
00:34:44You should file your complaint there.
00:34:45Which one?
00:34:46See, these are loyal and subordinates,
00:34:48this is federal legislation,
00:34:49according to the law.
00:34:50It is not necessary that you come to the police station,
00:34:52it is not necessary that you approach
00:34:54a senior police officer,
00:34:55if you do not want to come to the police station.
00:34:57So we have also made an online mechanism
00:34:59of complaint.
00:35:00Our helpline is 1715.
00:35:02You can also complain there.
00:35:04If you cannot come there,
00:35:05then you can give an application to the provincial ombudsman
00:35:08that this incident happened to me,
00:35:10this is my issue.
00:35:11Like if you go online,
00:35:12then what will you do?
00:35:13On your online digital application,
00:35:15on WCPC,
00:35:16from the application mobile,
00:35:17WCPC,
00:35:18Women and Child Protection Center,
00:35:19this is our application of WCPC,
00:35:21you can download this from your mobile app store.
00:35:25And in it,
00:35:26you will open your entire pro forma,
00:35:27by registering
00:35:28and you can register your online complaint.
00:35:30This is also a redressal mechanism.
00:35:32If you do not want to come in this,
00:35:34you want your disposal within one month,
00:35:36that I get a quick remedy immediately.
00:35:38So you can go to the provincial office,
00:35:40the ombudsman's office,
00:35:41which is present inside the building of Act 8.
00:35:43You can go there.
00:35:44You cannot go to your application,
00:35:45you can do TCS in their name.
00:35:47And in the whole year,
00:35:48there are about 3,000 to 4,000 harassment cases,
00:35:50which they resolve.
00:35:51And within one month,
00:35:52its disposal was done.
00:35:53And within a maximum of three months,
00:35:54it is finalized.
00:35:55So in that,
00:35:56you will send your application,
00:35:57they will call on parties,
00:35:58they will listen to your entire problem for the first time.
00:36:00The accused,
00:36:01the alleged accused,
00:36:02they will call him.
00:36:03And after listening to him,
00:36:04after 2-3 of his sessions,
00:36:06after compiling all the evidences,
00:36:07witnesses,
00:36:08they give him the punishment.
00:36:09And he gets a fine,
00:36:10he gets a penalty.
00:36:11So after that,
00:36:12people get rid of this thing.
00:36:14But if not,
00:36:15then it can also be taken to the FIR,
00:36:17in section 509 PPC.
00:36:19Otherwise,
00:36:20I have seen that a lot of problems,
00:36:22sometimes through counseling.
00:36:23What do they want to do?
00:36:24They can go to the provincial ombudsman's office.
00:36:26They can come to us.
00:36:27They left their jobs.
00:36:28What did they have to do before leaving their jobs?
00:36:30See, there are lots of things.
00:36:32Phenomenal harassment also happens,
00:36:34which is historical.
00:36:35Just now,
00:36:36there was an incident with her,
00:36:37or a girl who was being abused in the house,
00:36:39by her grandfather.
00:36:40So,
00:36:41things like this,
00:36:42she is not reporting.
00:36:43But she has not been harassed for the first time.
00:36:44She has been harassed multiple times.
00:36:46Then she went and said,
00:36:47that now it has become unbearable.
00:36:49I can't tolerate it further.
00:36:50Then she reported it to her mother,
00:36:52at the family level,
00:36:53she discussed it.
00:36:54So,
00:36:55when,
00:36:56God forbid,
00:36:57her level of harassment will be enhanced,
00:36:59then she will go
00:37:00and follow the reporting mechanism.
00:37:02So, it is better than
00:37:03aggravating the problem
00:37:05and finding a remedy for it.
00:37:06Resolve it at the first stage.
00:37:09The more you hide it,
00:37:11the more you complicate things.
00:37:13And then,
00:37:14God forbid,
00:37:15you will have to go through more traumatization.
00:37:17So, I think
00:37:18she should report it at the first stage,
00:37:19immediately.
00:37:20And in the whole of Pakistan,
00:37:21different NGOs are also working on this.
00:37:23For example,
00:37:24Digital Harassment Foundation,
00:37:25there is digital reporting.
00:37:26They report on digital harassment.
00:37:28We have cyber harassment,
00:37:29computerized,
00:37:30and in other ways,
00:37:31people misuse online photos.
00:37:34Now-a-days,
00:37:35hackers access your gallery
00:37:36and present pictures.
00:37:37Exactly.
00:37:38Profiles are being misused
00:37:39in your name.
00:37:40And there are many such things.
00:37:41So, all this comes under harassment.
00:37:43Sharing wrong posts
00:37:44and creating issues for it,
00:37:46which is a real idea.
00:37:47So, we need to monitor all these things.
00:37:50We need to take accountability for our things.
00:37:52We need to monitor our profiles.
00:37:53We need to monitor our mobile gallery accesses.
00:37:56We have downloaded many unwanted applications
00:37:58and many of our things go viral.
00:38:00So, they become accessible and vulnerable.
00:38:02These are the things.
00:38:03Then, you say,
00:38:04there are many cases where people even committed suicide.
00:38:08Yes.
00:38:09We counseled them,
00:38:10rehabilitated them,
00:38:11provided psychosocial support,
00:38:12provided pro bono public lawyers.
00:38:14So, we have the mechanism, all that,
00:38:16that we will provide legal aid to the pro bono public,
00:38:19free of cost.
00:38:20There is psychosocial support,
00:38:21there is counselling.
00:38:22Legal Aid Society is working for that.
00:38:24And we also have a panel of volunteer lawyers
00:38:27who are helping out.
00:38:28People approach us
00:38:29so that we get lawyers for free.
00:38:31So that there are no charges for our case
00:38:33and we solve it free of cost.
00:38:35So, we can help them.
00:38:36Sorry, I will give you that.
00:38:37Mr. Kamal, what do you have to say about this?
00:38:39Look, what she said is absolutely right.
00:38:41If you don't want to face this,
00:38:44then you have to report.
00:38:46And if you don't want to report,
00:38:47first, if one of your bosses is doing it,
00:38:49if there is a boss above him,
00:38:50then you have to report there.
00:38:51Okay?
00:38:52This is the first stage.
00:38:53The first stage is that
00:38:54if one person harassed you
00:38:55and there is a second hierarchy of seniors in that office,
00:38:58then you have to tell them first.
00:38:59If you don't want to tell them,
00:39:01then you have to tell their second,
00:39:02their senior,
00:39:03their second,
00:39:04you have to tell them.
00:39:05So that the first time,
00:39:06someone will give him a shut-up call.
00:39:07Absolutely.
00:39:08And I told you,
00:39:09this is a common thing.
00:39:10Okay.
00:39:11Similarly,
00:39:12this is not from today,
00:39:13this is old.
00:39:14When women used to do very few jobs,
00:39:16the ratio was very low.
00:39:17Now, the ratio of women is very high.
00:39:18Yes.
00:39:19I mean,
00:39:20in every organization,
00:39:21you will see women working.
00:39:22This harassment used to be very high before.
00:39:23Now, the ratio has dropped a little.
00:39:24Yes.
00:39:25Yes, definitely.
00:39:26They will make a group.
00:39:27There is a little fear.
00:39:28No,
00:39:29before,
00:39:30if there were four men in one office,
00:39:31there was only one woman.
00:39:32Absolutely.
00:39:33Now,
00:39:34I mean,
00:39:35the ratio of women is also high.
00:39:36Absolutely.
00:39:37If you look at the banks,
00:39:38earlier,
00:39:39if one woman used to sit in the reception,
00:39:40then ten or twenty men used to work.
00:39:41Absolutely.
00:39:42Out of that,
00:39:43four men used to harass her.
00:39:44Okay?
00:39:45But now,
00:39:46because the ratio of women has increased,
00:39:47women have to speak up.
00:39:48People can speak up.
00:39:49But,
00:39:50some women's personality is such that
00:39:51people are afraid of them.
00:39:52Okay.
00:39:53I mean,
00:39:54they cannot even think of harassing them.
00:39:55Okay.
00:39:56But,
00:39:57some girls are so soft spoken
00:39:58and all that.
00:39:59Out of all of them.
00:40:00Okay,
00:40:01there is another side to this.
00:40:02Yes.
00:40:03Actually,
00:40:04those women disagree a little on this.
00:40:05Some women are such that,
00:40:06you can understand that,
00:40:07in their offices,
00:40:08they take the bosses under this pressure.
00:40:09That,
00:40:10I will put an allegation of harassment on you.
00:40:11I will do so and so.
00:40:12So,
00:40:13there are such cases too.
00:40:14Yes.
00:40:15But,
00:40:16this is a parallel thing.
00:40:17Both are there.
00:40:18Both are there.
00:40:19Of course,
00:40:20there are such cases too
00:40:21in which women
00:40:22go on a break and then come back.
00:40:23To blackmail or
00:40:24to ask for an undue favor,
00:40:25they harass.
00:40:26So,
00:40:27there are other sides of the coin.
00:40:28Exactly.
00:40:29That also exists.
00:40:30There are stories on both sides.
00:40:31Obviously.
00:40:32We are taking a small break.
00:40:33After the break,
00:40:34we will come back
00:40:35and give you more information.
00:40:36In fact,
00:40:37we will give you some tips
00:40:38with the help of these two
00:40:39that what next step
00:40:40you have to take in life.
00:40:41Good morning.
00:40:46Good morning.
00:40:52Anyway,
00:40:53our topic today is
00:40:54that harassment,
00:40:56sometimes,
00:40:57women play cards
00:40:59and because of this,
00:41:01many genuine women
00:41:03poor women,
00:41:05they are not able to
00:41:06convey their point to people
00:41:08and they silently
00:41:09leave the way.
00:41:10Or they don't get heard.
00:41:12Huh?
00:41:13Because of this,
00:41:14they don't get heard.
00:41:15So,
00:41:16let's make this case an example
00:41:17that it is possible
00:41:18that she is doing this.
00:41:19Exactly.
00:41:20In the break,
00:41:21we were talking about this
00:41:22that sometimes,
00:41:23people are not genuine
00:41:24and those who are genuine,
00:41:25they get trapped
00:41:26because of such drama.
00:41:28I will move towards
00:41:29the next case.
00:41:30With me right now
00:41:31is Saira.
00:41:32And,
00:41:33what will Saira say?
00:41:35Good morning.
00:41:36Good morning.
00:41:38Today,
00:41:39I want to tell you all
00:41:40Saira,
00:41:41a little louder.
00:41:42I am sorry.
00:41:43It is very difficult to speak
00:41:44but your voice
00:41:45will not be able
00:41:46to reach our guests.
00:41:48Today,
00:41:49what I am going to tell you all
00:41:50is related to my daughter,
00:41:51Hasa.
00:41:53Your daughter?
00:41:55Yes, my daughter.
00:41:57It has been a year
00:41:58but my daughter
00:41:59has still not been able
00:42:00to forget that incident.
00:42:03It so happened
00:42:04that
00:42:05when my husband
00:42:06used to go to work,
00:42:07his timing
00:42:08had changed.
00:42:09He used to leave early.
00:42:11So,
00:42:12there was an issue
00:42:13with the school.
00:42:15So,
00:42:16he got us
00:42:17a driver
00:42:18to pick and drop
00:42:19our daughter
00:42:20to school.
00:42:22Because,
00:42:23he was against
00:42:24the school van
00:42:25from the beginning.
00:42:28In the beginning,
00:42:29I used to go with him
00:42:30to pick and drop
00:42:31my daughter
00:42:32to school.
00:42:33Then,
00:42:34I had a newborn baby
00:42:35and he used to
00:42:36trouble me a lot.
00:42:38So,
00:42:39obviously,
00:42:40I trusted the driver
00:42:41so I told him
00:42:42that
00:42:43he should
00:42:44pick and drop
00:42:45our daughter
00:42:46himself.
00:42:47So,
00:42:48he agreed.
00:42:49We went to school
00:42:50in the beginning.
00:42:51It had been a month
00:42:52and a half.
00:42:53Then,
00:42:54I saw a change
00:42:55in my daughter's
00:42:56behavior.
00:42:58She started
00:42:59to be semi-dirty
00:43:00and quiet.
00:43:03I also
00:43:04shared this
00:43:05with my husband
00:43:06to see
00:43:07what had happened.
00:43:09My daughter
00:43:10was very good
00:43:11at school.
00:43:12Suddenly,
00:43:13she did not
00:43:14feel like
00:43:15going to school.
00:43:16Suddenly,
00:43:17she refused
00:43:18to go to school.
00:43:21I also told
00:43:22my husband
00:43:23to see what
00:43:24had happened.
00:43:25He said,
00:43:26let's do one thing.
00:43:27Let's go to
00:43:28school
00:43:29and find out
00:43:30what had happened.
00:43:32When we went
00:43:33to school,
00:43:34we got a complaint
00:43:35from the school
00:43:36that what had
00:43:37happened to
00:43:38our daughter.
00:43:39She used to
00:43:40sit quietly
00:43:41in the class
00:43:42and remain
00:43:43silent and
00:43:44dirty.
00:43:45Her homework
00:43:46was not complete.
00:43:47She was not
00:43:48participating in
00:43:49anything.
00:43:50I got more
00:43:51tensed.
00:43:52When we came
00:43:53home,
00:43:54my husband
00:43:55suggested
00:43:56that we
00:43:57take her
00:43:58for a walk
00:43:59and go to
00:44:00Bahria.
00:44:01We made
00:44:02a plan
00:44:03that we
00:44:04would go
00:44:05with her.
00:44:06The day
00:44:07we had to go,
00:44:08my husband
00:44:09suggested
00:44:10that we
00:44:11take her
00:44:12with us
00:44:13for a walk
00:44:14and go to
00:44:15Bahria.
00:44:16When we
00:44:17sat in
00:44:18the car,
00:44:19I made
00:44:20my daughter
00:44:21sit in the
00:44:22car and
00:44:23she got
00:44:24scared.
00:44:25She started
00:44:26shivering.
00:44:27She sat
00:44:28with me
00:44:29but she
00:44:30held my
00:44:31hand so
00:44:32tightly
00:44:33that
00:44:34I also
00:44:35felt
00:44:36weird.
00:44:37She started
00:44:38shivering.
00:44:39When
00:44:40we reached
00:44:41Bahria,
00:44:42my daughter
00:44:43was not
00:44:44in a
00:44:45good mood.
00:44:46I was
00:44:47thinking
00:44:48that I
00:44:49should go
00:44:50home and
00:44:51ask my
00:44:52daughter
00:44:53what had
00:44:54happened.
00:44:55I had
00:44:56asked her
00:44:57at school
00:44:58and at
00:44:59home.
00:45:00She
00:45:01was
00:45:02shocked.
00:45:03She
00:45:04said that
00:45:05only
00:45:06drivers
00:45:07can
00:45:08drive.
00:45:09I
00:45:10trusted her
00:45:11and asked
00:45:12her again
00:45:13what
00:45:14had
00:45:15happened.
00:45:16My
00:45:17daughter
00:45:18started
00:45:19crying and
00:45:20telling me
00:45:21that when
00:45:22she used
00:45:23to drive
00:45:24with
00:45:25her driver
00:45:26uncle,
00:45:27he used
00:45:28to come
00:45:29a little
00:45:30ahead and
00:45:31stop the
00:45:32car.
00:45:33He
00:45:34used to
00:45:35tell me
00:45:36that he
00:45:37will
00:45:38never
00:45:39take me
00:45:40to school
00:45:41again.
00:45:42He
00:45:43used to
00:45:44tell me
00:45:45that he
00:45:46will
00:45:47kidnap
00:45:48my
00:45:49mother
00:45:50and
00:45:51my
00:45:52father.
00:45:53My
00:45:54daughter
00:45:55was
00:45:56ten
00:45:57years old
00:45:58and
00:45:59was
00:46:00so
00:46:01scared.
00:46:02When
00:46:03she used
00:46:04to
00:46:05touch
00:46:06the bed
00:46:07and
00:46:08touch
00:46:09my hand
00:46:10on the
00:46:11bed,
00:46:12I
00:46:13was
00:46:14shocked.
00:46:15I
00:46:16told my
00:46:17husband
00:46:18and
00:46:19he
00:46:20beat
00:46:21her and
00:46:22handed her
00:46:23to the
00:46:24police.
00:46:25But
00:46:26my
00:46:27daughter
00:46:28could
00:46:29never
00:46:30forget
00:46:31that.
00:46:32I
00:46:33am
00:46:34so
00:46:35happy
00:46:36that
00:46:37I
00:46:38am
00:46:39so
00:46:40happy
00:46:41that
00:46:42I
00:46:43am
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