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"Alliance ka sabqa Tajurba Talkh Hai,Mehnat Ham nay ki aur Faidah kisi aur ko..." Kamran Murtaza
"Alliance ka sabqa Tajurba Talkh Hai,Mehnat Ham nay ki aur Faidah kisi aur ko..." Kamran Murtaza
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00:00Okay, but Mr. Zain, you were saying that the People's Party and Noon Ke Tehaat
00:05might be right, but now we have fresh news that your attempt to form a Grand Alliance
00:12and your leaders, Mr. Fawad Chowdhury, I don't know technically if he should be called your leader or not,
00:15if he should be called the President of PTI, he was saying that the success of PTI is dependent on
00:20whether or not it can get Mr. Maulana on board in the political arena.
00:23Please look at Mr. Maulana's statement today and then I will give Mr. Kamran Mujtaba Zahmat.
00:27Mr. Maulana Bhadur Rahman has said that the Grand Alliance is dependent on politics.
00:31Please show us what he said.
00:58So, Mr. Kamran Mujtaba Zahmat, Assalam-o-Alaikum, Sir.
01:01Wa-Alaikum-As-Salaam.
01:03Of course, Senior Ranoma Jai, Ranoma Jai. Sir, thank you very much for coming.
01:05Mr. Kamran Zahmat, to put it simply, despite the fact that Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Islam,
01:10issue to issue with PTI, because you are also an opposition party, PTI is also an opposition party,
01:14there are others, you are with them on various issues, but an alliance whose name is PDM or XYZ,
01:21in which you are also there, they are also there, they hold various gatherings,
01:24you are not going to do anything like that.
01:26Am I understanding this right? Is this right?
01:28Look, sir, this thing is also premature.
01:31Now, in this week, what is going on, there may be a meeting with our PTI.
01:39Now, I don't know where that thing ends.
01:44I don't know.
01:46I think that after the parliamentary session, this will be the first meeting.
01:50So, let's see how it goes.
01:53But our previous experience is that we went with different parties.
01:59I don't take names.
02:01Everyone knows.
02:03But the result was not good.
02:05Whatever hard work we did, the result of all that hard work,
02:10the benefit came to someone else.
02:12And we are going alone like this.
02:16On a lighter side, you have a bad experience with Mr. Afnan's party.
02:23Based on that, you are not ready to ally with Mr. Zain Qureshi's party.
02:26You must have been with them for the first time, right?
02:29Yes.
02:30We have a past with them, a very long past.
02:33Now, we have to take that past to the extent that I don't know if they can walk together or not,
02:39so that there is no more embarrassment.
02:41We should not be ashamed or they should not be ashamed.
02:44Then the embarrassment in our hearts has reduced.
02:47We sit together, drink tea together, eat together, pray together.
02:52So, things are moving forward.
02:54I think there will be a meeting in two or three days.
02:58Now, where does that thing reach?
03:00Either Maulana will be able to tell us after the meeting or someone else will tell us.
03:05I think Maulana says a lot of dirty words, which are not spoken in speech.
03:12So, he has said that he does not want to talk about such things.
03:15Mr. Zain Qureshi, you tell me, wouldn't PTI have had a very good advantage,
03:20which it will not have now, if you could form a real alliance,
03:24if there was a name for it, both of you would be there,
03:27then wouldn't you have had a big advantage, which you would have got, which you will not be able to get now?
03:30Or will you continue your efforts to convince Maulana?
03:33It is such that, which the Senator has also pointed out,
03:38which was our way of doing things, in which these meetings do not take place,
03:43an earnest effort was made in that.
03:46Mr. Asad Qais was leading from our side, Mr. Maulana was leading his party,
03:50that everyone should be gathered.
03:53But if the JUIF has decided that they want to run their own movement,
03:58then this is their decision and we respect their decision.
04:01The rest you have done right.
04:03Their experience has been with the PDM,
04:07that the PDM gave them leadership, the chairman of the PDM,
04:11made the governments himself and left Maulana in the middle.
04:15But it is absolutely right, there is no doubt about it.
04:18But if the JUIF has decided that they want to run their own movement,
04:23then this is their decision and we respect their decision.
04:26There is no doubt about it.
04:27But Mr. Zain, I am remembering Mr. Sohail Barahi,
04:30there is also an open contradiction that right now you both have less votes,
04:33which is a good thing, may Allah make everyone in Pakistan have less political votes.
04:36In fact, allow me to say, I will be the happiest person if there is a political environment in Pakistan,
04:40that every political worker, in the mood in which you speak,
04:42I am saying this with your name, or your father speaks,
04:45that you also disagree with the JUIF,
04:47because your opinion is based on your own opinion,
04:49you do not agree with someone else's opinion,
04:50but you do not leave the culture and peace,
04:52so what could be better than this?
04:53So that is a great thing.
04:54But there is a contradiction,
04:56that Maulana's opinion at the moment is that KPK has also been unfair to him,
05:01there is more complaint about KPK.
05:02And you are the largest stakeholder of KPK,
05:05so he is not saying this,
05:06but it applies that he thinks that the sessions that have been given to you,
05:10were actually given to him.
05:13Sir, we have said this before,
05:15and CM KP, i.e. Mr. Gandabur has also said this,
05:18that if you have any concerns on any issue,
05:20we are ready to open it.
05:21In reality, Maulana's and our complaint is from the Election Commission of Pakistan.
05:26And the kind of facilitation that the ECP has done in this election,
05:29this complaint is from them.
05:31So, the purpose of the Movement for the Protection of the Constitution was also this,
05:35that see, everyone agrees that in 2024,
05:39you will say that from 1970 till date,
05:41there has been a complaint on some issue.
05:44There must have been a complaint on the 18th election,
05:46there must have been before as well.
05:47But everyone agrees that the 2024 election,
05:50the 8th February election,
05:51there were a lot of big questions raised on that.
05:53Yes, I understand.
05:54MQM will talk in Karachi,
05:57JUF will talk in KPK,
05:59we talk in Punjab.
06:01So, this used to be a common ground.
06:03Right.
06:04If I talk about Mr. Bilawal Bhutto,
06:06when Mr. Bilawal Bhutto did his first speech at the National Assembly,
06:09he also said that every election is controversial,
06:12and I hope that this will not happen in the upcoming elections.
06:15Right.
06:16So, this has become a common denominator for all of us.
06:18Right.
06:19So, everyone should raise their voice on this issue.
06:21Let's conclude this.
06:22On a lighter note, can I also say something?
06:23Yes, please.
06:24In your talks, you talked to him in double words about Halwa.
06:26So, he didn't offer you Halwa, sir,
06:29but we will definitely send you the best Halwa from Multan.
06:31Yes, sir, you are very kind.
06:32I caught your Halwa.
06:33Sir, I told you not to get upset,
06:37but you caught my Halwa.
06:39Thank God, Mr. Kamran didn't hear me.
06:40When he was saying that we drink tea together,
06:42I thought he must be eating Halwa as well.
06:44But, Mr. Afnaan, now you are at peace.
06:47The program started from here.
06:48At 11.08, Mr. Zain was saying that
06:50I don't know if the Peoples' Party and Noon ka Ithiyaat will continue,
06:53but in 11.50, I will tell you a short story
06:55that Mr. Maulana is saying that
06:56we will not go to Ithiyaat with PTI or anyone else.
06:59This is good news for you.
07:03Look, we think that there should be constructive criticism.
07:07There should be an opposition
07:09that gives advice to improve the situation of the country.
07:12Instead of getting involved in the issues of burning houses,
07:15if we take any step towards that,
07:19it will be a good thing.
07:21Unfortunately, PTI, as I told you earlier,
07:24the track record was not so good in this case.
07:28Afnaan, this is not the case today.
07:30I didn't criticize you today.
07:32I was going well.
07:33Two minutes were left.
07:35Two minutes were left and the program was over.
07:37You let me go.
07:38Despite a lot of effort,
07:40I didn't criticize your Punjabi policy.
07:44I said, okay, if you do it, then it's fine.
07:46I also didn't criticize you for a lot of things.
07:48Let it go.
07:49It's the right thing.
07:50When 40-50 minutes have passed,
07:52you are not interested.
07:53But you call Mr. Maulana's statement a good news.
07:55Mr. Afnaan, in which he said that
07:57we will not go to Ithiyaat with anyone.
08:00Obviously, this is his policy.
08:03He should do what he thinks is best.
08:05We respect Maulana a lot.
08:07He was the president of PDM.
08:09He spent a lot of time with us.
08:11He is a very brave person.
08:14He spent a lot of time with us.
08:15We respect him a lot.
08:17He was saying that he spent a lot of time with us.
08:19He spent a lot of time with us.
08:21He made him the president of PDM.
08:23If it's about becoming the president of Pakistan,
08:25then Mr. Zardari.
08:26Towards the end,
08:27Mr. Kamran,
08:28in today's date,
08:30you said that you will not go to the alliance with PTI.
08:33Anyway, we have a good environment.
08:35It's a good thing.
08:36But in today's date,
08:37do you feel yourself as far away from Noon,
08:39People's Party,
08:40or so and so,
08:41whose name I am not taking,
08:43as you were a month ago?
08:46Or is the situation getting better there?
08:49Yes, it's okay.
08:50We are in the opposition.
08:51And we don't have much time for the opposition parties.
08:55Okay, with the opposition parties.
08:57Thank you very much.
08:58Thank you very much to all three guests.
09:00Mr. Kamran, thank you very much.