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00:00Fafn has given a report. Rishi Chaudhary is with me. He is the national coordinator for Fafn.
00:05Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:07Walaikum-o-Alaikum.
00:09Sir, I have read your report.
00:11Obviously, the concern is that 25 petitions total, National Assembly and 21 provincial petitions.
00:18I am sorry, 23 tribunals have disposed off.
00:21Sorry, let me rephrase.
00:2523 tribunals have disposed off.
00:2725 out of 377 election petitions have been disposed off.
00:30The spirit of the law, that elections should be decided as soon as possible, is not happening.
00:38So, what will happen?
00:41Last year, in August, Parliament amended the Elections Act.
00:48The main focus was on refining the dispute resolution mechanism.
00:54120 days to 180 days were allotted.
00:57Protection was provided.
00:59Parties were not allowed to take many adjournments.
01:04Even safeguards were provided.
01:06If there are any injunctive or stay orders, they will be vacated in 6 months.
01:14The biggest law was made that high court judges will be the tribunals.
01:20Yes, high court judges will be serving judges.
01:23Now, they have said that retired judges can also take.
01:26Now, they have said that retired judges can also take.
01:27Now, they have said that retired judges can also take.
01:28Now, they have said that retired judges can also take.
01:29Now, they have said that retired judges can also take.
01:31This was already there.
01:33But you have changed it.
01:37But you have changed it.
01:38No, it was not changed.
01:39It was removed in the original state.
01:41It was removed.
01:42Now, they have brought it back.
01:43They have brought it back.
01:44Now, they have brought it back.
01:46You have corrected it first and then ruined it.
01:49You have ruined it in the original state.
01:50Before 2017 and after the 2013 elections, the tribunals were also on the retired judges.
01:55They had disposed the petitions very expeditiously.
01:59The most expeditious tribunals had disposed 385 petitions.
02:06There were 14 tribunals.
02:08They were on the retired session judges.
02:11Now, the purpose is different.
02:12It is not about the retired session judges.
02:13Mr. Salman Raja, do you have anything to say?
02:15I will come back to Mr. Chaudhary.
02:18Yes, Mr. Salman, quickly.
02:20The issue is that the judges of the high court were proceeding with the case very expeditiously.
02:26In Islamabad, you can see that Justice Jahangiri has brought the form 45 of the first day.
02:31All the parties, the parrots of their hands flew away.
02:33They immediately ran to the election commission to take the case from them.
02:36So, the real issue is that they do not want these cases to go on.
02:40My case is still pending.
02:41There was not a single hearing in it after the notice.
02:44The Supreme Court has decided that all the tribunals in Punjab should not be allowed to work.
02:48So, it is absolutely logical and practical that these tribunals should not be allowed to work.
02:54We have to take the case from them and give it to the retired judges.
02:57And in the current situation, it is clear that the retired judges will be instructed not to work.
03:02And we will not have any confidence.
03:05In this case, when you take the case from the judges presently and give it to the retired judges,
03:09no Chief Justice has said that we have a lot of work to do.
03:13We cannot listen to these cases.
03:15In fact, two Chief Justices in Punjab, the tribunals, announced sitting judges.
03:22And the ECP was not notifying them.
03:25Mr. Chaudhary, where do you see this case going?
03:27Actually, you have a lot of experience in elections.
03:29Can you ask a question to Mr. Salman?
03:31You can ask the question.
03:33You said that two Chief Justices in Punjab, the tribunals, announced sitting judges.
03:40Is it permissible for the Chief Justice to announce tribunals or is it permissible for the election commission?
03:45Mr. Salman, please hold this question.
03:48Let me talk to Mr. Chaudhary.
03:50Then we will discuss this case in the next segment.
03:54Mr. Chaudhary, what do you think about this case?
03:57Will there be no decisions in Pakistan in the next five years as traditionally?
04:02Is this also going to happen?
04:04Yes, before this, most of the things were done on stay orders.
04:08This time, there is a protection against stay orders.
04:11But the problem in Punjab is the differences between the Lahore High Court and the Election Commission of Pakistan on the interpretation of the law.
04:22Who is responsible for setting up tribunals?
04:25And who has the right to transfer petitions in the tribunals?
04:30And because of this, these six tribunals had just started working.
04:34They had worked for two or four days that they were stopped by the Supreme Court.
04:40But do you see the matter moving forward or do you think this is just a matter of history?
04:47The biggest caseload is in Punjab.
04:49The biggest caseload is in Punjab.
04:51In Punjab, on an average, every tribunal has to hear 20 petitions.
04:54There are eight tribunals here.
04:57So if the tribunals of Punjab are not established, because the tribunals of Balochistan are disposing off at a suitable rate.
05:06The work has started in KP as well.
05:08Some petitions have been decided in Sindh as well.
05:11But in Punjab, only one petition has been decided in Rawalpindi by the Subahi Assembly.
05:16And until the matters in Punjab do not move forward and do not move forward quickly,
05:20then this legal deadline of 180 days, we can see it in the long run.
05:26Sir thinks that this does not meet, but we think that this whole matter will go into the dustbin of history.
05:32May God forbid.
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