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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful.
00:18This is the program, I am Aneeka Nisar.
00:19Viewers, tomorrow is a very important day.
00:20Legally, politically and for the security of Pakistan.
00:21It is a very important day because first of all, Pakistan will celebrate Yom-e-Istihsaal-e-Makbooz-e-Kashmir tomorrow.
00:33Since the abrogation of Article 370 and Article 35A on 5 August 2019, Pakistan celebrates Yom-e-Istihsaal-e-Makbooz-e-Kashmir.
00:41On the other hand, there was a minority judgment.
00:47There was a controversial note in it.
00:50After that, the two judges said very clearly that Article 106, Article 51 and Article 63,
00:57if you can take a step forward, then take it.
01:02In this regard, it seems that the government has also come into action.
01:06And the government has come into action in such a way that the election act amendment bill will be presented in the National Assembly and Senate tomorrow.
01:13And the chances of passing are very low.
01:16All parties, government parties have told their members that you have to be present tomorrow morning.
01:23So tomorrow is a very important day in this regard.
01:26Not just that, yesterday the election commission of Pakistan,
01:29the party that was told by the Supreme Court that you have to contact the party, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
01:37and its 41 members, they were given a 15-day time.
01:43Within 7 days, the election commission of Pakistan had to refer to its members.
01:48Tomorrow is also the last day of that.
01:50Also remember that the election commission of Pakistan has already gone to the Supreme Court on the explanation of some matters.
01:58And the fourth thing is that from tomorrow, the protest of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf will also start.
02:04Latif Khosla is with us. He is the leader of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
02:07And he is a senior lawyer. Thank you very much. Latif Khosla, you joined us.
02:10Khosla sahib, tomorrow is an important day.
02:13What are you expecting?
02:14This election act amendment bill, which is a possibility of passing from the National Assembly and Senate,
02:21on a day when Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf will be holding a meeting in Swabi,
02:25what will be the far-reaching consequences of this in the context of the Supreme Court's decision?
02:31Will matters be seen to be complicated for the PTI or not?
02:36Look, Anika, it is an absolutely important day.
02:39We are going to meet in Swabi.
02:42And the meeting will be the Fakid-ul-Misal.
02:46And a loud and clear message will go to all of Pakistan.
02:51And to all those powerful people.
02:54That you should come out of the state of denial.
02:57Come out of that deep slumber.
03:00Imran Khan is a reality.
03:03And Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is the largest political party
03:08and heartthrob of the people of Pakistan.
03:12So until you accept this,
03:16you will not be able to run the country,
03:19you will not be able to run the democracy,
03:21you will not be able to run the constitution,
03:22and you will not be able to run the rule of law.
03:24So a loud and clear message will go to them from Swabi.
03:28Secondly, you did the right thing.
03:31Outrageous.
03:33Anika, this cannot be a more stupid act than this.
03:37I consider this to be the Muslim League's Waterloo.
03:42This is the war in which they will be destroyed.
03:45Because they are taking this direct confrontation from the Supreme Court.
03:50And look at the Supreme Court's decision.
03:56They said that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf was a political party,
04:01is a political party, and will remain a political party.
04:06And this election commission of Pakistan,
04:09which refused to accept them as a political party
04:14and threw them out,
04:17it was not just our Supreme Court's decision on the symbol,
04:21the decision on the election symbol,
04:25the Supreme Court, 11 judges, including the Chief Justice,
04:3011 judges out of 13,
04:32said that they have misinterpreted our decision.
04:38And they also said that they have subverted the constitution.
04:44They have also violated the constitution.
04:48They have denied Article 17, Article 51,
04:53all of them.
04:55Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:57So they said that since this fraud was done by the election commission of Pakistan,
05:03its punishment cannot be given to the people of Pakistan, to the democracy.
05:08Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf cannot be given justice.
05:11Therefore, they reversed that stage and brought it to the same stage.
05:17In Article 187, it is necessary to give them complete justice.
05:21Professor, I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
05:23After that, it will be Allah's court.
05:24But after that decision, the decision that has come now,
05:27and now 15 days have passed,
05:28everyone is waiting for a detailed judgment.
05:30The detailed judgment has not come yet.
05:32Because of the summer holidays,
05:34the government that has gone for a review,
05:37that has also not been done yet,
05:39the government that has gone for a review.
05:40But, the controversial note that has come,
05:43the 29-pager controversial note,
05:45a lot of questions have arisen in that as well, Professor.
05:48And the legal community also seems to be very divided on that.
05:51That Article 106, Article 51, Article 63,
05:55you will have to go overruling them.
05:57Within these legal limits,
06:00how can you give relief to a community that was not a part of the case,
06:04that was not a complainant,
06:06how can you give relief to that community?
06:08This is not even a precedence, Professor.
06:11I am a student.
06:13Tell me, is this not a case law?
06:15Is this not a precedence that the Supreme Court
06:18cannot give relief to a team that is not even a team,
06:21that is not a team in the case?
06:27Anika, this is factually incorrect,
06:30because,
06:32Kamal Shauzaf,
06:34who is the President of our Women's Wing,
06:37he had a petition in this as well.
06:40This is factually incorrect,
06:43that this was done only on the request of the Sunni Union.
06:48Kamal Shauzaf had a petition as well.
06:51The second thing is that,
06:53Chief Justice and Justice Mandukheel have dealt with this.
06:58They have said that this is a continuation.
07:02This is a continuation of the election commission,
07:05because it came to the Peshawar High Court against the decision,
07:10and now we are hearing the appeal,
07:13so the appeal is continuous.
07:15That decision, that action is continuous.
07:19So they have said that if the election commission of Pakistan has done this wrong,
07:25then we can correct that root,
07:29the mistake that has started from there.
07:32So this is the absurdity of the government,
07:35and these two judges,
07:37I respect them a lot,
07:39but two judges on 11 judges,
07:41forgive me,
07:42will not prevail.
07:44And this is their misunderstanding.
07:46This is not Bandyal's court.
07:49Chief Justice, former Chief Justice,
07:51this is not Bandyal's court.
07:53We will get them punished in the court of insult as well.
07:56We will get them punished.
07:58Do you know what they did? Fraud.
08:00Instead of bringing a government bill,
08:03they gave a private member bill from Mr. Kiani, the MNA.
08:08Private member.
08:10So that the government cannot be held accountable in this.
08:14Because it is the Cabinet's decision,
08:16the Cabinet has the upper hand,
08:18the Prime Minister,
08:19so to save the Prime Minister from punishment,
08:21and to get the Cabinet out of the way,
08:23they did this.
08:24What Mr. Bilal Azhar Kiani is saying,
08:25who is the leader of PMLN,
08:26Mr. Khosla,
08:27they brought the bill as a private member so that the government can be saved.
08:30But if this bill is passed,
08:33then what effect will it have on the case of these special seats?
08:37If they are, which seems to have been passed.
08:39It will not have any effect.
08:40It will not make any difference if it is retrospected.
08:42It will not have any effect.
08:43No, no, it will not have any effect.
08:45Even if they say,
08:47look, this is a passed and closed transaction.
08:49For example,
08:50the Supreme Court directed 49 people
08:55that they are from PTI only,
08:58because PTI, including me,
09:00I had also written that I am a member of PTI,
09:05and I am fighting for the PTI ticket.
09:08Their problem has been solved.
09:09I wrote it in my nomination papers.
09:12The Supreme Court said that we are from PTI.
09:15And the Election Commission has notified us.
09:18It has notified us.
09:20As Pakistan Tehrik-e-Nawab-e-Insaf's MNA and we.
09:24Yes, 41 people are left.
09:27The Election Commission has also asked for clarification for 41 people.
09:31And 8 judges of the Supreme Court have said
09:34that we will also clarify.
09:36That is, 8 judges will go.
09:38This is a judicial decision of the Supreme Court.
09:40So, keep an eye on this.
09:43This will also be clarified.
09:45Then when they have given the request for a second look,
09:49then how can they overreach the Supreme Court
09:53and this is the worst form of defiance and contempt of court
10:00which they have brought in the form of a bill.
10:03The confusing part right now is.
10:05We will definitely not make fun of this.
10:07The confusing part right now is.
10:09We will definitely not make fun of this.
10:11Both institutions are very serious.
10:13The institution of Judiciary and the institution of Parliament.
10:15Legislation, as such, should not be taken to court.
10:19Whether it should or should not be taken.
10:21And no one can overrule the judicial decision in any way.
10:25But here we are seeing both the things happening.
10:28Anika, Anika.
10:30Which Parliament are you talking about?
10:32Which Parliament?
10:33There are only 17 seats in the Supreme Court.
10:35One, seven.
10:37One minute, one minute.
10:39Only 17 seats have been won by Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz.
10:43One, seven.
10:45And by giving him 80 seats, he has reached 105.
10:50Even now, without his 46 seats, we are at 126.
10:55We are the largest political party.
10:58And the ones who have become the leaders of the house right now,
11:02are in the same circle as me.
11:04I swear, I have lost.
11:06Nawaz Sharif has lost.
11:08Khwaja Asif has lost.
11:10They are the progenitors of Form 47.
11:12On the basis of fraud,
11:14you say that if you enter the Assembly,
11:16you will become the Parliament.
11:18You will become the representatives of the people.
11:20And you are obstructing.
11:22What you are saying makes sense.
11:24What you are saying makes sense.
11:26But being a part of this Parliament,
11:28are you not accepting this Parliament?
11:30Because when you did not accept the Parliament,
11:32PTI resigned and stood aside.
11:34You are a part of this Parliament.
11:36So, are you not accepting this Parliament?
11:38Are you not accepting it?
11:42No, Anika, this is not the case.
11:44Look, when you sit with the conservatives,
11:46when you sit with the protests,
11:48that first experience is enough.
11:50When in 1985, Zia-ul-Haq did a mischief,
11:53that a non-party Assembly was formed,
11:57its destruction is still being suffered.
12:00And when PTI made a mistake,
12:02that they should leave,
12:04that they should give seats,
12:06its disadvantages are still being suffered.
12:08So, it is not something to be accepted.
12:11Now, we have seen it.
12:13They want us to come out as Mustafi,
12:16so that they can have fun.
12:22We will not let them have fun.
12:25Look, if they think like this,
12:27that on the basis of fraud,
12:29people are not fools today.
12:31You are considering people to be insects.
12:34The hatred within people,
12:36they have made their political capital zero.
12:40This is their political happiness.
12:42Many of the leaders of PMLN agree with this.
12:47Their political bank has gone bankrupt.
12:52But,
12:53let's come to the side of politics,
12:55because we are talking about politics.
12:57Mr. Khosla, at this time,
12:59to have a political conversation,
13:01Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has given a go-ahead to Mr. Achak Zahi.
13:05Will this be a language expenditure?
13:07Or are you seeing something achieved from this?
13:10Because, at one place, you are saying that
13:12both these parties have entered,
13:14and at another place,
13:15they have got a go-ahead to have a conversation.
13:17So, what is this?
13:18What is this double signal?
13:19Look, we have said that this is not rocket science.
13:22Restore Form 45.
13:24And whatever is left,
13:26your genuinely elected people,
13:28are ready to sit and talk with all of us.
13:31It is not that you have won all the seats,
13:351-7,
13:36and you have become the Prime Minister.
13:39And you have collected the seeds of insects.
13:42All the losers have lost.
13:44Who does not know that Khwaja Asif has lost to Rehana Dhar?
13:48Who does not know that Nawaz Sharif has lost to Dr. Yasmin?
13:51Who does not know that all three seats of Islamabad,
13:55Pakistan Muslim League have lost,
13:58and all three seats have won to PTI?
14:02This is why I am confused.
14:06Will you still talk to them?
14:08Mr. Achak Zahi is still in the form of Mr. Achak Zahi.
14:11Will you still talk to them?
14:12Yes, we will talk to them.
14:13Look, Anika, it is very simple.
14:15Look, we want you to either make a Judicial Commission,
14:19or let those election petitions run.
14:23Let them run.
14:24This is a week's work.
14:28Because the election management system,
14:31EMS,
14:32in that,
14:33immediately on the closure of the poll,
14:38that is, after the polling was over,
14:41the counting,
14:42the presiding officers,
14:44all were given an app,
14:46and they sent the results to the election commission on the app.
14:49And what happened, we all understand.
14:50At the same time, everyone sent it.
14:52Everyone sent it,
14:54and they took it out to the election commission.
14:56That is a record.
14:58That is a record.
14:59You are going to KPK tomorrow.
15:00There is a meeting in Swabi.
15:02Even if it is erased,
15:04it goes into storage.
15:07Give me a week,
15:09I will prove to you in a court,
15:12who has lost and who has won.
15:15This will definitely remain a question.
15:17But my next question is,
15:18Mr. Khosla,
15:19there is only a little time left.
15:20You are going to Swabi tomorrow,
15:21to KPK.
15:22In KPK,
15:23there seems to be some tension between the parties.
15:25At one place,
15:26on the request of Mr. Khan,
15:27a committee has been made,
15:28that whatever is being done,
15:30money is being done,
15:31by the government,
15:32by the bureaucracy,
15:34now a committee will oversee.
15:36Shah Farman is in it,
15:37you know,
15:38Mr. Musadiq Abbasi is there,
15:39Qazi Anwar is there.
15:41And on the other hand,
15:42in the internal affairs of the party,
15:44that Sher Afzal Marwat,
15:45who at one time,
15:46when no member of the party was coming out,
15:48he was doing the Jalsa,
15:49she is sidelining him.
15:51What is happening, Mr. Khosla?
15:52The internal differences in the party,
15:54have reached this point,
15:56that at one place,
15:57a committee has to oversee,
15:59that where in KPK,
16:00there is a ruckus,
16:01and at another place,
16:02a member has to come out.
16:06No, no,
16:07let me talk about the other first.
16:09Sher Afzal Marwat,
16:11has done overstepping,
16:13he has done Saudi Arabia in between,
16:15for Khan as well,
16:16and for the entire party,
16:17he has created a lot of embarrassment.
16:19Saudi Arabia is a very good friend of ours,
16:23Pakistan's relations with them,
16:25Imran Khan's relations with MBS,
16:28are very good.
16:29So, he had no such mandate,
16:34that he would talk like this.
16:36Then, the insistence he has made,
16:38is the internal affairs of the party.
16:40Look at Khan,
16:41his indiscipline,
16:42zero tolerance,
16:43and he is fine,
16:45he doesn't care,
16:47and let me tell you one more thing,
16:49Khan has made everyone electable,
16:52whoever,
16:53whoever,
16:54whoever,
16:55if he gives a ticket to Khambe,
16:57then Khambe will also win,
16:59the vote is of Imran Khan,
17:00Imran Khan is a heartthrob,
17:02no one should have a misunderstanding,
17:04that because of him,
17:05people used to come out.
17:06Baba, if Mr. Marwat,
17:09in Peshawar,
17:11or in some other place,
17:13in Swabi,
17:14if he created a ruckus,
17:15and brought people out,
17:16then he didn't bring them out,
17:18they are just like Imran Khan.
17:21Believe me,
17:23if you take Imran Khan's flag today,
17:25people come out,
17:27the way they think,
17:29and that's why,
17:31this is not the case.
17:32Now, the second thing is,
17:33Khan has zero tolerance,
17:35even on corruption,
17:36if he has received any such complaint,
17:38then he has made a committee,
17:40then this is a good thing,
17:42you must remember earlier,
17:44when MPAs did defiance,
17:45then Khan threw them out,
17:47he didn't even care,
17:49that my members will be less,
17:51so this is very clear,
17:53Khan has zero tolerance on corruption,
17:56and indiscipline.
17:57Is this an acceptance,
17:58that corruption is happening,
17:59in Khosa Sahib, KPK?
18:01No, no,
18:03if there is any complaint,
18:05or if there is any rumour,
18:07then it is the duty of the leader,
18:09to make an enquiry,
18:11and report it,
18:13there is no such thing,
18:15there is no such thing,
18:17so keep it in mind,
18:19our, Inshallah,
18:21see, the corruption,
18:23Mashallah,
18:25in Punjab,
18:27and what is happening in Sindh,
18:29the system is separate,
18:31Mashallah,
18:33their records are broken,
18:35but till date,
18:37there has been no corruption in KPK,
18:39Before I go,
18:41last question, very quickly,
18:43some people are saying,
18:45that you are holding Jalsa in safe zone,
18:47in KPK,
18:49you will wait for NOC,
18:51other parties are protesting,
18:53you will stay in safe zone,
18:55neither in Punjab,
18:57no,
18:59see,
19:01in Punjab,
19:03we have made three committees,
19:05in the name of Rata committee,
19:07one is me,
19:09one is Bakas Akram Shaikh,
19:11and one is our Buttar,
19:13the youngster,
19:15we have,
19:17in all parties,
19:19we have instructed them,
19:21to request,
19:23the district administration,
19:25we have made a chain,
19:27and if we don't get permission,
19:29then we,
19:31from different high courts,
19:33be it Bahawalpur bench,
19:35be it Multan bench,
19:37be it Principal bench,
19:39be it Pindi bench,
19:41or Islamabad,
19:43we will go to all the high courts,
19:45and make sure of the permission,
19:47Khosla sahib, thank you very much,
19:49for joining me in the program,
19:51it was a pleasure having you,
19:53see you after the break.
19:59Welcome back after the break,
20:01Governor KPK, Faisal Kareem Kundi sahib,
20:03is with us, but before I go to him,
20:05Khursheed Shah sahib,
20:07has said something about the KPK government,
20:09please listen.
20:11The current state of the government,
20:13or its attitude,
20:15I don't think it is better for Pakistan,
20:17it will be better for Pakistan.
20:19So should the PTI government,
20:21make it worse?
20:23I am not in favour of making it worse,
20:25they want to make it worse,
20:27to become more innocent,
20:29we don't want to make it worse.
20:31This statement is very important,
20:33because before this,
20:35Faisal Kareem Kundi sahib has said,
20:37that the KPK KCM,
20:39for a long time,
20:41thank you very much,
20:43for joining me in the program,
20:45if you combine your statement,
20:47and Khursheed Shah sahib's statement,
20:49that either the government is going,
20:51or only the C.M. is going,
20:53or there is going to be a complete chaos,
20:55is this the case?
20:57Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim,
20:59I am not saying anything,
21:01because you yourself saw that day,
21:03his own minister gave a charge sheet,
21:05against his own government,
21:07he was sitting with his advisor on information,
21:09Saif sahib,
21:11and he said,
21:13do a press conference,
21:15listen to him,
21:17to whom did he give the charge sheet?
21:19to the government,
21:21to the minister,
21:23and to the officers,
21:25so who is the minister?
21:27KPK has PTI,
21:29so who is their head?
21:31the minister,
21:33the C.M. who chooses the minister,
21:35the C.M. who appoints the secretary,
21:37I have been saying for a long time,
21:39that I will put a mark on the transfer posting,
21:41where you have to do the transfer posting,
21:43that mark will be there,
21:45when the secretary,
21:49gives 100 crores,
21:51I am not telling the exact figure,
21:53we don't tell the name,
21:55we have been saying for a long time,
21:57that he is taking so much money,
21:59we don't tell the name,
22:01I will tell the name,
22:03when you tell the source,
22:05I will tell,
22:07you don't need a source,
22:09you are the governor,
22:11I also have sources,
22:13if you appoint the minister on money,
22:15they will not earn their money,
22:17so let's put it this way,
22:19that there is a lot of ruckus,
22:21the three members,
22:23Shah Farman,
22:25they have been inducted,
22:27why have they been inducted?
22:29to give a breach,
22:31to whom?
22:33C.M. sir,
22:35C.M. sir has his own people,
22:37you are saying this,
22:39he has ruined the committee,
22:41so you are saying,
22:43there will be no benefit of this committee,
22:45the committee has been made,
22:47to give a clean sheet,
22:49everyone knows the kind of ruckus there,
22:51the bureau has been shut down,
22:53you tell me,
22:55those who wanted to make a university,
22:57that we will make the governor house,
22:59the minister house,
23:01the C.M. house a university,
23:03they are thankful to sell the university,
23:05I was getting the news that you were
23:07doing legal charges on him,
23:09in our society,
23:11if you sell your father's property,
23:13land or house,
23:15it is considered bad,
23:17I will sell it in a soft language,
23:19and God willing,
23:21as long as I am in office,
23:23I will never sell a single inch of land,
23:25the people's party,
23:27the information I have received,
23:29has gone to the court,
23:31that these things should not be sold,
23:33your priority,
23:35you are keeping Rs. 3,000,000 for 34 universities,
23:37see how much money you have kept,
23:39you are competing with Sindh,
23:41you have kept Rs. 25-30,000,000,
23:43you have kept Rs. 3,000,000,
23:45out of 34 universities,
23:47you are not a Chancellor after 26,
23:49you are saying that we will start the process,
23:51it will again take 6 months,
23:53this is the situation.
23:55Till when,
23:57till when will you see the C.M.K.P.K.,
23:59till when will you see Mr. Alimin Gandapur
24:01sitting on his chair,
24:03you and him are friends,
24:05I will definitely answer the questions
24:07of the people who ask me,
24:09I cannot remain silent,
24:11till when,
24:13I do not have any magic wand,
24:15I do not have anyone to cast a spell on me,
24:17I do not have anything else,
24:19you have already said that they will not stay for long,
24:21they are political people,
24:23so tell me,
24:25if there is going to be any change in the K.P.K.P.K. government,
24:27is it within P.T.I.,
24:29is there going to be any other person
24:31coming forward?
24:33We will plan it after some time.
24:35But you are aware of it.
24:37What?
24:39You are aware of it.
24:41Should I be aware of it?
24:43Or is the Pakistan People's Party
24:45planning something,
24:47is there a number game in your favour?
24:49Look, we will know when the situation changes,
24:51so let's see.
24:53Mr. Kundi, what are you going to do?
24:55I think you are very active in your K.P.K.P.K.
24:57conversations with the people,
24:59usually the governors are not so active.
25:01Yes, they are political people,
25:03and we are always active.
25:05We meet people,
25:07we do not meet without meeting,
25:09we do not invite people to meet us.
25:11Last time, I invited
25:13the M.P.A.s,
25:15the opposition members,
25:17and they came.
25:19So, you are bringing the Nationals to the People's Party.
25:21No, I did not invite anyone,
25:23I invited the opposition members.
25:25They were very concerned
25:27about the bureaucracy of the province,
25:29and the representatives of the central government
25:31were also very concerned.
25:33And I told them,
25:35these are your M.P.A.s,
25:37and it is your right to listen
25:39to their problems.
25:41And if the time of the Nationals changes,
25:43then you will say that it was our helplessness,
25:45then we will not listen to helplessness.
25:47On the other hand,
25:49Mr. Nayyar Bukhari is also saying
25:51that if the government is seeing
25:53any problem,
25:55then they should hold new elections.
25:57I do not think that
25:59the country can participate in the elections.
26:01And in Pakistan,
26:03the decision of the People's Party
26:05is always made by the core committee
26:07or the C.C.
26:09As such, the core committee and C.C.
26:11did not meet,
26:13on which it was decided to break the assembly.
26:15They met with Murree
26:17and discussed it in another contest.
26:19I do not think that
26:21there will be any elections in the near future.
26:23Governor Punjab is also saying
26:25that it is our helplessness to sit with the government.
26:27We did not want the elections to happen
26:29within three to four months.
26:31Now that three to four months have passed,
26:33does that mean that the People's Party
26:35is ready for the elections?
26:37No, there are two or three things.
26:39Three parties got a mandate
26:41and two parties had to agree.
26:43One party said that
26:45they did not want to shake hands
26:47or hug each other.
26:49And two parties were left,
26:51the PMLO and the People's Party.
26:53The People's Party formed a committee
26:55in which the PMLO approached us
26:57and said that we are the majority
26:59and we are becoming the government.
27:01No one else approached us.
27:03Our 16-month experience is debatable.
27:05Some say it is right, some say it is not.
27:07There are differences in unity.
27:09Your distances also increase,
27:11you are not united on certain issues.
27:13You have different manifestos.
27:15There are issues on that.
27:17There are issues of constituency.
27:19There will be issues of PMLO,
27:21there will be issues of the People's Party.
27:23I will be in the middle.
27:25I will say that it is my work.
27:27They will say that it is my government,
27:29it is my work.
27:31We have formed a committee
27:33and we are trying to solve the issues
27:35with coordination.
27:37If the governor says that it is helplessness,
27:39there are two committees.
27:41You have to be careful with them.
27:43They will say that it is their majority
27:45and we have to be careful with them.
27:47I don't think that there will be
27:49such differences.
27:51The chairman will intervene.
27:53Last time, when there was a budget,
27:55he met Shahbaz Sharif and his team
27:57and we removed those differences.
27:59If there are differences in the party,
28:01we will resolve them.
28:03Let's come to the dialogue.
28:05Your issues are set for now.
28:07Do you want to fight?
28:09I don't want to fight.
28:11I think your own members want to fight.
28:13Nayyar Bukhari has become the governor of Punjab.
28:15Nayyar Bukhari is a serious politician.
28:17His statements are very interesting.
28:19He is creating ripples.
28:21He is echoing the other people
28:23in the Pakistan People's Party.
28:25You are moving very prudently
28:27but there is something going on.
28:29This is your thinking.
28:31The information is still in your hands.
28:33I don't know.
28:35You didn't want to have a dialogue
28:37with the Pakistan People's Party.
28:39You didn't want to.
28:41But Tehreek-e-Tahfooz-e-Ayn-e-Pakistan
28:43wants to have a dialogue with PTI
28:45and Imran Khan.
28:47Has the dialogue started?
28:49With whom?
28:51With the People's Party,
28:53PMLN and political parties.
28:55This is also a good thing.
28:57Mahmood Khan Chakri
28:59is very respectable for me.
29:01I remember
29:03the stage
29:05when Imran Khan
29:07was making cartoons.
29:09He was holding a shawl.
29:11Can you recall
29:13the times when people
29:15used to talk about
29:17Modi's friend?
29:19We did the Charter of Democracy.
29:21We used to call someone
29:23Modi's friend.
29:25We used to call someone
29:27bad.
29:29We used to call someone
29:31bad.
29:33Can you say the same thing
29:35about PMLN?
29:37PTI has said a lot
29:39about Maulana Fazlur Rahman.
29:41Is Maulana Fazlur Rahman
29:43ready to go there
29:45and sit with you?
29:47No.
29:49Maulana Fazlur Rahman
29:51is a great politician.
29:53He is ready to
29:55meet PTI.
29:57Maulana Fazlur Rahman
29:59will be there
30:01and he will
30:03stand on the stage
30:05and we will ask him
30:07to apologize.
30:09He fought against my father.
30:11He fought against me.
30:13I respect him.
30:15He is a respectable person.
30:17I have never said anything
30:19against him.
30:21You heard it.
30:23Even then,
30:25people are ready to
30:27meet PMLN.
30:29He is not ready to
30:31sit with you.
30:33You have taken a U-turn.
30:35Respect your vote.
30:37PTI used to say
30:39that Maulana Fazlur Rahman,
30:41Chakzi, Mengal
30:43or Chammak
30:45are political people.
30:47We have never
30:49formed an alliance with them.
30:51We will see what happens.
30:53Imran Khan
30:55wants NRO.
30:57He will not get it.
30:59Have you thought about
31:01keeping your TROs?
31:03Our party has not thought about it.
31:05According to
31:07Backdoor Diplomacy,
31:09Chakzai has contacted
31:11Pakistan People's Party.
31:13Who are your sources?
31:15You are asking me.
31:17Then why were you asking me?
31:19You are the governor.
31:21I am the anchor.
31:23The party has not
31:25taken a decision yet.
31:27If it does,
31:29it will form a committee.
31:31I am not in a position
31:33to make fun of it.
31:35The core committee
31:37has to decide.
31:39We have always had dialogues.
31:41When the government was
31:43in power for 16 months,
31:45who sat on the table?
31:47The party.
31:49They used to say
31:51they will not shake hands.
31:53How will they hug now?
31:55They want NRO indirectly.
31:57Will this be a futile effort?
32:01If they think
32:03they can get rid of NRO
32:05in 9th May,
32:07I am not going to decide.
32:09If the state has
32:11decided on
32:13NRO in 9th May,
32:15and other cases,
32:17if they think
32:19they can get out of jail,
32:21they cannot.
32:23They have to face trials
32:25and courts.
32:27You must have read
32:29the PTI notification
32:31from KPK.
32:33You must have read the PTI notification
32:35from KPK.
32:37I have not read it.
32:39It is very complicated.
32:41They have not resigned
32:43from PTI yet.
32:45PTI has put them aside.
32:47The PTI has put them aside.
32:49The PTI has put them aside.
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