Bani PTI Ne Kaha Ke Jab Tak Mujhe Do Tahai Aksariyat Nah Miley Election Karate Raho, Afnan Ullah
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00:00Ms. Mehrbano, the problem is that if you don't talk to the establishment today,
00:07then anyone would be ready to believe that you want a system to be created
00:14where there is no space for the establishment to intervene.
00:18The political parties will say that there should be no space.
00:23There should be no space at all.
00:25And if we didn't believe in it, then we wouldn't have so much pressure on the tribunals.
00:30Our community has filed up to 80 petitions in tribunals,
00:37we are following them, we are pursuing them.
00:39Why are we doing this?
00:40Because we want you to punish whoever was responsible for this corruption.
00:46You should impose responsibility on them,
00:48so that we can make the transparency in the elections in Pakistan credible.
00:53We believe in strengthening the processes of elections in the democracy.
01:00If you listen to what we say about the establishment,
01:05you only hear that there will be talks with the establishment.
01:08But the talks will only be on their jurisdiction and legal limits.
01:13We are not going to deal with them more than that.
01:16We are not going to deal with them more than that.
01:21I am sorry, but I have to say this.
01:29They have the constitution.
01:35They know what their limits are.
01:37It's a different matter what happened in the past.
01:40Nobody is reading it.
01:41Clearly, people need to be reminded.
01:43And why are we in a position to remind people?
01:46Because the people of Pakistan have given us the heaviest mandate.
01:50Right now, the people of Pakistan are standing behind Tariq-e-Insaaf.
01:5355% seats.
01:55On Form 45, Pakistan has won Tariq-e-Insaaf.
01:58Pakistan calls for Tariq-e-Insaaf.
02:01That's why it is our responsibility to remind them
02:05what is written in the constitution of Pakistan.
02:07What does the people of Pakistan want?
02:10Yes, Mr. Afnan, you want to add something?
02:12It's a good thing to talk about the constitution.
02:15I will encourage it.
02:17When they were saying that the ISI should complete their work.
02:22When I had to pass a bill,
02:24didn't you remember the copy of the constitution?
02:26Leave that aside.
02:29Who do you trust?
02:32When you left the office of the Prime Minister,
02:35you said in an interview in 2022,
02:38that you will ask the establishment to keep holding elections
02:40until you get a two-thirds majority.
02:44This is his statement.
02:47He is talking about boot polish.
02:49He is a world champion in boot polish.
02:51Whether they are in the past or you are in the past,
02:53we have nothing to do with it.
02:55If they really want to move forward,
02:58it can only be through the Charter of Democracy and the Charter of Economy.
03:04The Charter of Democracy and the Charter of Economy
03:08is what Pakistan is ready to do with Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:10Not just talks and futile efforts.
03:12The Charter of Democracy and the Charter of Economy
03:14is what Pakistan is ready to do with Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:19Of course we are ready.
03:21But before that,
03:23are they ready to clean up the environment?
03:25Or will they still run Article 6 on us?
03:27Will they call us terrorists?
03:29Will they keep innocent people in jail?
03:31On remand?
03:32Will they not even let us hear their bails?
03:34Will they make bogus cases of terrorism?
03:37On a fellow from King's College?
03:40And will they stop picking up the children of our social media?
03:44Will they stop showing them terrorist posters?
03:47Did the issue of Article 6 and the ban go on the back burner?
03:51The issue is that the ban can only be done by the Supreme Court.
03:56But are you pursuing it rapidly?
03:59That is only after talking to the allied parties.
04:03My personal opinion is that
04:05right now it is in a discussion phase.
04:09So you are not following it rigorously.
04:12Mr. Meher Bano,
04:13you have talked about the law and the Charter.
04:15It is a good thing.
04:16Everyone should follow the law and the Charter.
04:18There is a controversial note in front of you.
04:20Two respectable judges of the Supreme Court
04:23have said that
04:24articles 175, 185, 51, 63 and 106 of the Charter
04:32will have to go beyond them
04:35to give relief to Pakistan's Tariq-e-Insaaf.
04:37I want your comment on this.
04:38At the end of the day,
04:40I will only comment that it is a minority judgment.
04:43Eight respectable judges of the Supreme Court of Pakistan
04:47who are senior to them
04:50have a different opinion.
04:52Right, that's all you want to say.
04:54Mr. Afnaan, would you like to comment on this?
04:56I would say that
04:57the arguments given by the honourable judges
05:01show that
05:03a party which did not contest the elections
05:06and did not submit a list of women's reserve seats
05:11is not only being re-established in the Parliament
05:21but is also being given reserve seats.
05:23So, of course, you will want to go beyond the constitutional matters.
05:28Otherwise, how will you entertain?
05:30But I will say that
05:32I will look into the detailed judgment once it comes.
05:36It has not come yet.
05:37I will give a better opinion about it when it comes.
05:40Mr. Mehrawani wants to add something.
05:41Yes, Mr. Mehrawani.
05:42Absolutely. I was going to say that
05:43let the detailed judgment of the majority judges come.
05:46And apart from that,
05:48the short order of the majority judges
05:50which they referred to
05:52of the peculiar circumstances,
05:54we cannot ignore them.
05:57Actually, when distortion was created,
06:00it only happened in this entire system
06:03when the Supreme Court of Pakistan
06:06at midnight, 15 minutes before
06:09when the time to collect the tickets was running out,
06:13took away the mark of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
06:17After that, distortion starts.
06:19After that, all the judges of the Supreme Court
06:22accepted that
06:23it was misinterpreted by the Election Commission of Pakistan.
06:27So, in reality, the root and the cause
06:30is the poison apple.
06:33So, how will we treat it?
06:35Got your point.
06:36Mr. Mehrawani, I have to end the segment.
06:38Thank you very much for joining me in the program.