Bani PTI Ne Kaha Ke Jab Tak Mujhe Do Tahai Aksariyat Nah Miley Election Karate Raho, Afnan Ullah
Bani PTI Ne Kaha Ke Jab Tak Mujhe Do Tahai Aksariyat Nah Miley Election Karate Raho, Afnan Ullah
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00:00Ms. Mehrbano, the problem is that if you don't talk to the establishment today,
00:07then anyone would be ready to believe that you want a system to be created
00:14where there is no space for the establishment to intervene.
00:18The political parties will say that there should be no space.
00:23There should be no space at all.
00:25And if we didn't believe in it, then we wouldn't have so much pressure on the tribunals.
00:30Our community has filed up to 80 petitions in tribunals,
00:37we are following them, we are pursuing them.
00:39Why are we doing this?
00:40Because we want you to punish whoever was responsible for this corruption.
00:46You should impose responsibility on them,
00:48so that we can make the transparency in the elections in Pakistan credible.
00:53We believe in strengthening the processes of elections in the democracy.
01:00If you listen to what we say about the establishment,
01:05you only hear that there will be talks with the establishment.
01:08But the talks will only be on their jurisdiction and legal limits.
01:13We are not going to deal with them more than that.
01:16We are not going to deal with them more than that.
01:21I am sorry, but I have to say this.
01:29They have the constitution.
01:35They know what their limits are.
01:37It's a different matter what happened in the past.
01:40Nobody is reading it.
01:41Clearly, people need to be reminded.
01:43And why are we in a position to remind people?
01:46Because the people of Pakistan have given us the heaviest mandate.
01:50Right now, the people of Pakistan are standing behind Tariq-e-Insaaf.
01:5355% seats.
01:55On Form 45, Pakistan has won Tariq-e-Insaaf.
01:58Pakistan calls for Tariq-e-Insaaf.
02:01That's why it is our responsibility to remind them
02:05what is written in the constitution of Pakistan.
02:07What does the people of Pakistan want?
02:10Yes, Mr. Afnan, you want to add something?
02:12It's a good thing to talk about the constitution.
02:15I will encourage it.
02:17When they were saying that the ISI should complete their work.
02:22When I had to pass a bill,
02:24didn't you remember the copy of the constitution?
02:26Leave that aside.
02:29Who do you trust?
02:32When you left the office of the Prime Minister,
02:35you said in an interview in 2022,
02:38that you will ask the establishment to keep holding elections
02:40until you get a two-thirds majority.
02:44This is his statement.
02:47He is talking about boot polish.
02:49He is a world champion in boot polish.
02:51Whether they are in the past or you are in the past,
02:53we have nothing to do with it.
02:55If they really want to move forward,
02:58it can only be through the Charter of Democracy and the Charter of Economy.
03:04The Charter of Democracy and the Charter of Economy
03:08is what Pakistan is ready to do with Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:10Not just talks and futile efforts.
03:12The Charter of Democracy and the Charter of Economy
03:14is what Pakistan is ready to do with Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:19Of course we are ready.
03:21But before that,
03:23are they ready to clean up the environment?
03:25Or will they still run Article 6 on us?
03:27Will they call us terrorists?
03:29Will they keep innocent people in jail?
03:31On remand?
03:32Will they not even let us hear their bails?
03:34Will they make bogus cases of terrorism?
03:37On a fellow from King's College?
03:40And will they stop picking up the children of our social media?
03:44Will they stop showing them terrorist posters?
03:47Did the issue of Article 6 and the ban go on the back burner?
03:51The issue is that the ban can only be done by the Supreme Court.
03:56But are you pursuing it rapidly?
03:59That is only after talking to the allied parties.
04:03My personal opinion is that
04:05right now it is in a discussion phase.
04:09So you are not following it rigorously.
04:12Mr. Meher Bano,
04:13you have talked about the law and the Charter.
04:15It is a good thing.
04:16Everyone should follow the law and the Charter.
04:18There is a controversial note in front of you.
04:20Two respectable judges of the Supreme Court
04:23have said that
04:24articles 175, 185, 51, 63 and 106 of the Charter
04:32will have to go beyond them
04:35to give relief to Pakistan's Tariq-e-Insaaf.
04:37I want your comment on this.
04:38At the end of the day,
04:40I will only comment that it is a minority judgment.
04:43Eight respectable judges of the Supreme Court of Pakistan
04:47who are senior to them
04:50have a different opinion.
04:52Right, that's all you want to say.
04:54Mr. Afnaan, would you like to comment on this?
04:56I would say that
04:57the arguments given by the honourable judges
05:01show that
05:03a party which did not contest the elections
05:06and did not submit a list of women's reserve seats
05:11is not only being re-established in the Parliament
05:21but is also being given reserve seats.
05:23So, of course, you will want to go beyond the constitutional matters.
05:28Otherwise, how will you entertain?
05:30But I will say that
05:32I will look into the detailed judgment once it comes.
05:36It has not come yet.
05:37I will give a better opinion about it when it comes.
05:40Mr. Mehrawani wants to add something.
05:41Yes, Mr. Mehrawani.
05:42Absolutely. I was going to say that
05:43let the detailed judgment of the majority judges come.
05:46And apart from that,
05:48the short order of the majority judges
05:50which they referred to
05:52of the peculiar circumstances,
05:54we cannot ignore them.
05:57Actually, when distortion was created,
06:00it only happened in this entire system
06:03when the Supreme Court of Pakistan
06:06at midnight, 15 minutes before
06:09when the time to collect the tickets was running out,
06:13took away the mark of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
06:17After that, distortion starts.
06:19After that, all the judges of the Supreme Court
06:22accepted that
06:23it was misinterpreted by the Election Commission of Pakistan.
06:27So, in reality, the root and the cause
06:30is the poison apple.
06:33So, how will we treat it?
06:35Got your point.
06:36Mr. Mehrawani, I have to end the segment.
06:38Thank you very much for joining me in the program.