" Shehbaz Sharif Aik Dastakhat Kar Dein To. .. . " Bijli Ke Bilon Mein Kami Kaisay Hosakti? Miftah
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00:00If that is reduced, then the electricity bill can be reduced by 25-30%.
00:05This can be done by one Shabaz Sharif sahib with his pen, and I think it is a very bad thing not to do this.
00:10Mr. Naqvi is with us from Karachi, he has a question for you.
00:15Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum, Mr. Sahab.
00:16Look, there has been a lot of talk about this.
00:19In Pakistan, every person is talking about the IPP plants that started to be installed in 1994 and are still being installed.
00:26So, what are the implications of this?
00:28I would like to ask a very important question, which no one has talked about yet, and it is possible that I am wrong in this, you can tell me more about it.
00:37We have, because this electricity is being made for the public, you are making it to give it to the public.
00:42The distribution network that we have to deliver electricity to the public is only of 22,000 MW, through DISCOs.
00:50When we are making it for 41,000 MW, or we have set up to make it for 41,000 MW.
00:56So, when you don't have such a big distribution network, then what is the benefit of making so much electricity and setting it up?
01:06Yes, Mr. Naqvi, look, we can make and sell 32,000 MW in the summer, so we can distribute it at 32,000 MW.
01:14It is not right to say that we have the capacity of 41,000 MW.
01:18Look, there are many such things, like if you set up 1000 MW solar, then you get 18-20% electricity in the solar day.
01:26So, your nameplate capacity will be 1000 MW, but you only get 200 MWh.
01:31Similarly, if you have 1000 MW wind, then the nameplate capacity of 1000 MW is there, but you get 350 MWh.
01:38So, Pakistan cannot make more than 31,000-32,000 MW in any month, except for August.
01:45And Pakistan can distribute up to 32,000 MW, but your fundamental point is absolutely correct.
01:51I am giving you an example that the wind power in Jambeer near Karachi is giving electricity to the government for free,
01:58but the government is not able to take it because they do not have a transmission cable to take the free electricity and put it in the grid.
02:05And there is a line of 132 KV, it can be made in Pakistan, it can be made in 6 months, and in fact, it is being made now.
02:11But there are a lot of restrictions in this.
02:13Similarly, in Sindh, electricity costs Rs. 26, total cost is Rs. 36 in Punjab, so you should get electricity from Sindh and send it to Punjab.
02:21You are not even able to do that.
02:23But if I give you one more excuse to talk, that in every electricity bill at the moment, the household electricity bill,
02:32you have 18% sale tax and 7.5% advance income tax.
02:37When the government is dying because of electricity and electricity bills, then the government should immediately remove that tax.
02:44That will make your electricity cheaper and more electricity will be sold.
02:47I don't understand that they are collecting taxes of only Rs. 450 billion.
02:52If this government ends it, removes the entire tax on the industry, removes it on local businesses, removes it on household expenses,
03:01then out of Rs. 450 billion, Wafaaq will get Rs. 185 billion less and Stubo will get Rs. 265 billion less.
03:07If Wafaaq reduces its PSDP from Rs. 185 billion, which is not a big deal, if the PSDP is reduced by Rs. 185 billion, then some corruption will be reduced in the country.
03:17If they reduce it, then the electricity bills at the moment can be reduced by 25-25%, 20-20% of the people.
03:23This can be done by one Mr. Shabaz Sharif with the help of his pen, and I think it is a very bad thing not to do this.
03:28You can get IPP's forensic audits done, you can keep opening them, you can keep completing your transmission mistakes, you can keep reducing your transmission losses, you can collect bills.
03:37All that is a medium and long-term thing.
03:39But at this time, you are not giving the facilities that you can give to the people of Pakistan by removing the bill for tax.
03:45Mr. Mirza, you are presenting a very easy solution.
03:49The government should do what the people of Pakistan are doing.
04:00The conditions of the IMF are very severe.
04:02Now the question is that you have seen that Dr. Gohar Ijaz has come to the market on IPP.
04:10We are seeing that he presents very strong arguments.
04:13We understand some things from what you are saying.
04:15So where is the problem?
04:1880% of the IPP's are government shares, which means they are government shareholdings.
04:23If the government wants, as you are saying, they can do it very easily.
04:26So what are the factors that the poor people, who are genuinely angry at the moment, have to be relieved of?
04:33Who is the obstacle in the way?
04:35Sir, look, the way I have told you to reduce taxes, there is no obstacle in this.
04:41There is no problem with the IMF in this.
04:43Look, you know that I have dealt with the IMF myself.
04:45The IMF tells you not to increase your loss.
04:47When you reduce the tax of Rs 450 billion here, you will have to reduce the expenses of Rs 183 billion.
04:53But because Wafaaq only gets 40% of that tax, so Wafaaq should reduce its expenses by 40%.
05:00The PSDP that you have kept from Rs 700 billion last year to Rs 1150 billion this year, reduce it to Rs 965 billion.
05:05What disaster will come if a little MNA and MPA get less money?
05:09What disaster will come if a little PSDP is reduced?
05:13So you should feel for it.
05:15I know this. Look, I have dealt with the IMF.
05:17There will be no problem with the IMF in this.
05:19So I am not saying anything like that.
05:21I am not saying that you should stop giving money to the IPPs.
05:23Stop giving money to the government companies.
05:25I am not saying anything so radical and impractical.
05:27I am telling you directly that if the government wants,
05:31and it is aware of the need of the people and the pride of the people at the moment,
05:35if the middle class and the middle class people are suffering because of electricity,
05:39then it can do this in two days.
05:41But this is a waste of thought.
05:43I am telling you the truth.
05:45This is a waste of understanding.
05:47Otherwise, it is not difficult to do this.