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00:00Hello and welcome to Sports Room. I am your host, Najeeb Ulhasnain.
00:17Whether a cricket lover is in Pakistan or outside of Pakistan,
00:20everyone has the same question in their minds.
00:22Will India come to Pakistan in the Champions Trophy or not?
00:25And if it doesn't come, then what will be Pakistan's stance?
00:28In this regard, Rajeev Shukla, the Vice President of the Indian Cricket Board,
00:32gave a statement while talking to journalists in Lucknow,
00:35in which he said that if the Indian team doesn't go to Pakistan,
00:39then Pakistan can also show its reaction in the World Cup in 2026.
00:44With me in the studio is our sports correspondent, Shahid Hashmi.
00:47Shahid sir, Assalam-o-Alaikum. Welcome to the show.
00:49And this is a very important change of events.
00:53A different turn has come.
00:55He said that we can go to Pakistan if we have the permission of the Centre.
00:58So back to square one.
01:00This is what has been going on from the beginning.
01:02But he has also made everyone realise that if the Indian team doesn't come to Pakistan,
01:09then Pakistan's reaction will also come.
01:11What do you say?
01:12These things are avoidable for India.
01:14There is nothing new in this.
01:15They have always needed government permission.
01:17They still need it.
01:18The PCCI always says that we are ready to go, but we don't get government permission.
01:22Rajeev Shukla himself was a media person.
01:24Earlier, he used to do Rubaru programs.
01:26So whenever Rubaru media comes, he immediately comes to Rubaru.
01:29He is very fond of it.
01:30First he gives the news that it won't go.
01:32And in the same news, there is a contradiction with his name.
01:34No, I didn't say anything.
01:36He is a very beautiful man.
01:38He is a very good man.
01:40He was at the forefront of the truck.
01:42He was seen at the forefront of the celebration of the World Cup.
01:46He is a very diplomatic man.
01:47He is also a very interesting man.
01:48And since he himself has been in the media, he knows that there is a lot of hype in the media.
01:53There is a lot of hype about the Champions Trophy.
01:55But before October and November, there will be no decision on this.
01:58And as far as Pakistan is concerned, if we don't go in 2016, then India is a co-host.
02:03In Sri Lanka, in 2026, India is a co-host.
02:07If Pakistan's team goes to the semifinals, then they will play a semifinal.
02:12Yes, if Pakistan's team is so good and it has shown such good performance,
02:17that it will go to the finals, then this matter can come under discussion.
02:20Similarly, as far as the Asia Cup is concerned,
02:22I don't think India will be so interested in hosting the Asia Cup in 2025.
02:26This was the Oman tournament.
02:28This was the Oman tournament before.
02:30Oman and UAE will try.
02:32And it should also be in an associate country.
02:34When Pakistan, India, India, Sri Lanka have hosted so many events of the Asia Cup,
02:38then it should be in an associate country.
02:40And for Oman, Qatar, UAE, they have facilities.
02:45You can do it in three places or two places.
02:47So, you should give more promotion to the event in those places.
02:50So, according to me, there is nothing new.
02:52We will not know anything before October or November.
02:55And until there is no talk on the political platform,
02:57the foreign office will tell.
02:59I read somewhere that there is going to be a high-level meeting of SAAR in August.
03:03But there is no news of it yet.
03:05Okay, tell me something.
03:06Can't the ICC put pressure on the BCCI that Pakistan has come three times during this time?
03:12Why are you not going? What is your issue?
03:14The ICC can only say.
03:15The ICC can't put any pressure.
03:17Obviously, India has so much clout.
03:19And now in November, there are talks that if Jai Shah becomes the president of the ICC,
03:23then everything will be on India.
03:27And the most important thing is that three, four, five years ago,
03:31we used to say that his team was not so good.
03:33Now his team is also excellent in all three formats.
03:35He is the world champion of T20.
03:37He has played two finals of the World Test Championship.
03:39So, Pakistan will also have to take its cricket up.
03:42Those who say that it is a lower-ranked team,
03:44its status is low,
03:47internationally you are having a problem for TV rights,
03:49when all these things will go to your low,
03:51then you will not be able to plead your case internationally properly.
03:55Okay, one thing is very clear.
03:56That India does not have any principled stance.
03:59Otherwise, why does it only come to cricket?
04:01The tennis team came, the federation cup was played,
04:04the kabaddi team has come during this time.
04:06So, why are they bothering us with cricket itself,
04:08where we are most hurt?
04:10This is actually a high-profile game.
04:12There were tennis, chess and other small events.
04:14An Indian team of Polo came about two years ago.
04:18So, these are such small events,
04:20they do not have so much coverage,
04:21they do not have so much hype.
04:22There is a lot of hype for cricket.
04:24So, their stance is that Pakistan will not have good relations with us.
04:28Until we play cricket,
04:29they are ready to send small other sports for them.
04:33If ITF had taken a stance,
04:35ITF had refused India's request
04:37that we will not shift the tie of the Davis Cup.
04:40When it came to them,
04:42it was a matter of restriction,
04:43it was a matter of fine.
04:44So, they came and played the tie and defeated us.
04:46So, in the Champions Trophy too,
04:47the Indian team came so well,
04:49played here and won.
04:50No one understands what is the reason for not coming.
04:52This is the main thing of politics.
04:55And looking at this whole situation,
04:57the former captain of Pakistan, Yunus Khan,
05:00started missing the general.
05:02He said that there should be a person like Musharraf,
05:05who can make Pak-India cricket great.
05:08And he said that Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should come and play here.
05:11So, what a great thing.
05:12What did he have to say?
05:13Come, I will show you.
05:14India-Pakistan cricket should happen.
05:16I wish there is a person like Musharraf,
05:18go and meet him.
05:19He was the Prime Minister at that time
05:21and he shook hands with him
05:22and then India-Pakistan cricket happened.
05:23My big wish is that Rohit Sharma should come here,
05:26Virat Kohli should come and perform here
05:28and all of us should see him live.
05:30Our people should see him.
05:31Waqar Bhai has this opportunity
05:33to change the cricket of Pakistan
05:35in a needful way.
05:38So, is there a need for such a personality here
05:43or will we have to open our minds a little there?
05:45No, no.
05:46Politics happens from both sides.
05:48There is applause from both sides.
05:50In this government,
05:51Deputy Prime Minister Ishaq Darvi has also said
05:54that our trade should be revived again with India.
05:57On our border,
05:59things are going from Afghanistan to India
06:01and things are going from India to Afghanistan.
06:03But no one is coming to our side
06:05whose trade is very beneficial to us
06:07and to India as well.
06:08It is more beneficial to us.
06:09So, until these things are not solved politically,
06:12we will have to do it from both sides.
06:13It will not be done from one side.
06:14Earlier, these things were happening
06:16and political analysts were saying
06:18that if Mr. Modi wins the third term,
06:20then he will go for the Nobel Prize.
06:23I have tried for peace in this area
06:25and I want to get the Nobel Prize for peace.
06:28And for that, he will extend his hand towards Pakistan.
06:31Now, when will he extend his hand?
06:33Till now, he has pulled back.
06:35If he extends his hand,
06:36then there will be a positive response from Pakistan.
06:39So, all these things will come.
06:41Let's see when all these things happen.
06:43When it happens and what situation is created.
06:45Moving on, let's talk a little about Pakistan cricket.
06:49There has been a big change in the system at the moment.
06:52Waqar Yunus has started working
06:54in the position of Chairman PCB's
06:56Chief for Cricketing Affairs.
06:58So, what do you think?
07:00Will it be good for him this time
07:02and will it be good for Pakistan cricket?
07:04Till now, nothing has come from PCB officially.
07:06This is a very surprising thing.
07:08If you have inducted a man
07:10and you have inducted a former cricketer,
07:12former captain, legendary fast bowler,
07:15then there should be a proper prestige
07:17that yes, Mr. Waqar Yunus has been given this responsibility
07:20and Mr. Waqar Yunus will take it up.
07:22All these things are coming in the media
07:24that Bangladesh's series will be their first task.
07:26Waqar Yunus has performed on the field
07:29as a bowling coach and head coach.
07:31But now, for the first time,
07:33he will stay in the office and
07:35take a look at the on-field things.
07:37He has to see that he has passion,
07:39he has knowledge, he has commitment.
07:41The few things that many players say
07:44that their experience is not good,
07:46Waqar is a hopeful man,
07:50he is pragmatic, his approach is very good.
07:53So if he removes all these things
07:55that have happened in his past,
07:57all the weaknesses,
07:59Pakistan's cricket...
08:01Yes, glad to have you back once again.
08:03Mr. Shahid, you were talking about Waqar Yunus.
08:05Let's continue this.
08:07You said that he has a lot of knowledge,
08:11he also has a passion.
08:13He also had a passion for coaching.
08:15For the first time, he was a bowling coach,
08:17then a head coach, then a head coach again.
08:19Then he sat here in a program
08:21and said, don't do it.
08:23And then he became a bowling coach again.
08:25There are problems with the Pakistan team.
08:27Whether it's a head coach, a bowling coach,
08:29a batting coach. Yunus Khan also had problems.
08:31Muhammad Yusuf also had problems.
08:33So there are problems in their place.
08:35But it's not like that.
08:37I was seeing a lot of things at places
08:39that he was a very unsuccessful coach.
08:41In the era of Waqar Yunus,
08:43he has produced a lot of good results.
08:45It's okay that in 2016,
08:47he left the Pakistan team
08:49at his own will.
08:51In 2011, he had a dispute with Shahid Afridi,
08:53then he left the team.
08:55This is very common in Pakistan.
08:57Then when he left the team in 2016,
08:59it was the case of Ahmad Shehzad Umar Akmal.
09:01In the case of Ahmad Shehzad Umar Akmal,
09:03he was absolutely right.
09:05Then when it happened now,
09:07he said that Amir and Wahab Riaz ditched him.
09:09I mean, it's not good for them to leak things.
09:11Wahab Riaz and Mohammad Amir
09:13three months ago,
09:15before the tour of Australia,
09:17said that they didn't want to play test cricket.
09:19So they ditched him.
09:21Pakistan brought in Naseem Shah.
09:23Naseem Shah, you developed a fast bowler.
09:25It's not like in the era of Waqar Yunus,
09:27a fast bowler didn't develop,
09:29or didn't get good results.
09:31People have their own problems in their place.
09:33If you bring in any coach from the world,
09:35he will have problems with Pakistani players.
09:37He brought in a fast bowler from Australia
09:39which is a problem.
09:41But if your two front-line bowlers
09:43move away
09:45and refuse to play test cricket,
09:47then you will have to bring in a junior fast bowler.
09:49So now if they go into the field
09:51and play two or three tenures,
09:53it's not like there was no improvement.
09:55There was an improvement,
09:57but they had their own problems,
09:59the players had their own problems,
10:01the team had its own problems.
10:03Now we are forgetting all the things of the past.
10:05I was talking to Mushtaq Ahmed a few days ago.
10:07He was saying that in first-class cricket,
10:09he is mentoring a lot of boys,
10:11I go to them,
10:13I work with spinners,
10:15but I don't project it much.
10:17So we need this kind of work.
10:19We need sincerity.
10:21Our cricket is going backwards.
10:23And if our cricketers don't help it,
10:25then God forbid,
10:27in the rankings and in all the statuses,
10:29we go backwards.
10:31And there are already talks about
10:33test cricket in two tiers.
10:35Your team is not even performing.
10:37Just like Sri Lanka is losing badly from India,
10:39Sri Lanka's team has also gone very low.
10:41So to bring our cricket up,
10:43we will have to do a whole concerted joint effort
10:45in which all the people will have to work.
10:47Yes, absolutely.
10:49And it is very important to do this.
10:51Thank you very much, Mr. Hashmi, for being with us.
10:53Obviously, the kind of surgery that is going on,
10:55according to that,
10:57we are not doing anything yet.
10:59The World Cup is over,
11:01it's been a while,
11:03and we don't know what the future holds.
11:05For now, that's all for our program.
11:07I'll take your leave now.
11:09Take care.
11:11Allah Hafiz.