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"Jab Tak Imran Khan Say Milta raha wo Apne Moqaf Par datay Howay thay..." Shef Afzal Marwat
"Jab Tak Imran Khan Say Milta raha wo Apne Moqaf Par datay Howay thay..." Shef Afzal Marwat
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00:00So, as an individual, if you want to participate in the party's campaign for Mr. Khan's independence,
00:06then do it, because you are saying, my goal is Khan's independence.
00:09So, whether it is the 5th of August Jalsa or anything else, you will participate as an individual.
00:14It is not necessary that the party gives you a leadership role, only then you can participate.
00:17Can you participate as an individual?
00:19No, the role of leadership was given to everyone by Khan.
00:26This leadership was given to me by Mr. Khan.
00:32But these are the words of Mr. Khan that I don't make people leaders,
00:37leaders themselves become leaders.
00:39Otherwise, if I had been in the situation that I am in,
00:44perhaps Khan's preference would have been different than mine.
00:49But these were my actions, my actions, my words, my way of thinking, my actions,
00:56which gave me acceptance.
00:59And as far as my personal relationship is concerned,
01:03I have participated in the parliamentary party meeting of Anger Strike.
01:09Even today, I said in the parliamentary committee meeting,
01:13that if anyone can protest in Pakistan,
01:18whether they like it or not, then it is me.
01:23And I don't care about the 144 MPO or the 3 MPO or the NOC.
01:33Neither did anyone give it to us nor did we ask for it.
01:36If we have to protest for Khan, and there is an urgent need today,
01:41then we have to go out on the streets.
01:44At that time, people came out with us in hundreds of thousands,
01:47when 9th May was renewed.
01:49The atmosphere of fear and fear was all over the country.
01:52Did any benefit come out of that protest?
01:55In the absence of Mr. Khan, that protest did not play any role.
01:58Protest is a fundamental right, everything should be given.
02:00I am asking, did any benefit come out of it?
02:02There is also one opinion, which Mr. Fawad Chauhi says,
02:04that there is no benefit of protest.
02:05You go out, ten more people are caught,
02:07then you show them, then you put them again,
02:09so make a strategy,
02:11there is no solution for Mr. Khan to go out on the streets.
02:13This is also one opinion.
02:15And you have also protested so much,
02:17but there was no relief, right?
02:19No, no, you are mixing things up.
02:22The protest we did before 8th February,
02:26was to remove people's fear and anxiety.
02:29It was a public awakening.
02:30We had to bring PTI into mainstream politics.
02:33We made people capable enough,
02:35that people on 8th February,
02:38went to polling stations.
02:40You see all those speeches,
02:44you see all those rallies,
02:46we convinced the people,
02:49that they should kick these monsters of fear and anxiety.
02:57As far as Khan's release is concerned,
03:01or the recovery of the mandate,
03:03or these protests,
03:04these are on a large scale.
03:06And on a large scale,
03:08you see,
03:09in the olden days,
03:11people used to think we were big talkers.
03:13But even today, I am saying,
03:15that these nations are fed up with
03:18inflation,
03:19corruption,
03:20oppression,
03:21and tyranny.
03:22This is not a country, right?
03:24What has been happening in the country for the past two years?
03:26Corruption and
03:28tyranny are dancing.
03:31And you see the electricity bills,
03:35the petrol prices,
03:37Pakistanis are fed up.
03:39Mr. Marwar,
03:40in all these conditions,
03:42which you are talking about,
03:43and I think you are right,
03:44these recent statements,
03:46that you were asked to be neutral,
03:49that the sun is fighting us,
03:51that you will fail,
03:52that we will fail,
03:53do you think this is a good deed?
03:56Or are these statements showing weakness?
04:01Look,
04:02as long as I met Mr. Khan,
04:04Mr. Khan was adamant on his position.
04:07His approach was anti-establishment.
04:10And,
04:12I think that
04:14in his political life,
04:17he reached the peak of his ideology
04:20with this statement.
04:23And,
04:24when other parties realized,
04:27like JUI for example,
04:29they also wanted to hold on to this statement.
04:32Everyone realized that,
04:34therefore, I don't think that
04:36I have met Mr. Khan's high statements,
04:40but,
04:41with the army,
04:43I have myself redoxed
04:46some soft attitude.
04:49I myself have been its advocate.
04:52But, as far as establishment is concerned,
04:55institutions and this should be understood separately.
04:59With them,
05:01if Mr. Khan wants
05:04that things should return to normalcy
05:09in terms of stability and prosperity,
05:12then it is not a bad thing.
05:14But,
05:15why did Khan say this?
05:17What is the reason behind this?
05:19I have no knowledge of this,
05:21because I have not met him
05:23in the last two and a half months.
05:24But, when you listen to these statements,
05:25and there is no doubt that they have stated,
05:27that it is confirmed from one, two, three, four, five, six sources.
05:29Ms. Aleema Khan is saying this,
05:30reporters are saying this,
05:31Mr. Omar Ayub is saying this,
05:32Mr. Hamid Raza is saying this,
05:33Mr. Salman, everyone is saying this.
05:34This means that the statements are being made,
05:35and they are being made on the same line.
05:36So, was it a matter of surprise for you
05:37that he was making these statements?
05:39I mean,
05:40did you feel a change in the situation?
05:42He is saying that this is a new statement,
05:43in these circumstances.
05:46Look,
05:47I myself think that,
05:50for the country,
05:52this should not be interpreted as a weakness,
05:55because I have not found Khan to be a weak person.
05:58He is a person from a different world.
06:00He is a very strong,
06:02a man of steadfastness.
06:04So, if Khan,
06:05now,
06:06the change that has come in his point of view,
06:09I am considering it as a good thing.
06:12I understand that...
06:13And, in your opinion,
06:14towards the end,
06:15the new statement that you are considering as a good thing,
06:17is absolutely correct.
06:18And, in your opinion,
06:19will this find a way
06:20to make things better,
06:21or will this also prove to be an unachievable problem?
06:25In your opinion.
06:27My opinion is that,
06:29the establishment should not be arrogant.
06:32We have suffered a lot,
06:34and we should have mercy on the country.
06:36What will this arrogance lead to?
06:38That, if Mr. Khan is giving a message,
06:42it should be reciprocated,
06:44and instead of us
06:46obtaining a political gain from this,
06:49for the country,
06:51and for the establishment,
06:54there should be a constitutional agreement.
06:58That, these new religions,
07:01one should use the establishment's shoulder,
07:04and the other,
07:05should convince them as well,
07:08to go and do their work.
07:11And, the political parties,
07:13should also understand.
07:14See, the People's Party and Noon,
07:16at one time,
07:17had an agreement,
07:18the Murree agreement.
07:19Yes.
07:20Today, both of them are in conflict with that agreement.
07:25And as a result,
07:26Mr. Mian,
07:27who used to be a great leader of South Asia,
07:31where has his politics reached today?
07:34Thank you very much.