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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Barrister Ali Zafar PTI
- Barrister Aqeel Malik PMLN
- Fawad Chaudhry (Politician)
"Imran Khan ka Bayan siyaq-o-sabaq Say hat kar Liya Gaya Hai" Barrister Ali Zafar's Big Revelation
"Jis kay Pas Power Nahi us Say Muzakrat Ka kiya Faidah"Barrister Ali Zafar's Blunt Statement
PMLN Govt Jarahi Hai Aur Imran Khan Araha Hai? - Fawad Chaudhry Breaks Biggest News
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Barrister Ali Zafar PTI
- Barrister Aqeel Malik PMLN
- Fawad Chaudhry (Politician)
"Imran Khan ka Bayan siyaq-o-sabaq Say hat kar Liya Gaya Hai" Barrister Ali Zafar's Big Revelation
"Jis kay Pas Power Nahi us Say Muzakrat Ka kiya Faidah"Barrister Ali Zafar's Blunt Statement
PMLN Govt Jarahi Hai Aur Imran Khan Araha Hai? - Fawad Chaudhry Breaks Biggest News
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00:00As-salamu alaikum, dear viewers, you are watching the program with me, Kashif Abbasi.
00:15Let me first introduce our guest, Mr. Aqeel Malik.
00:18Mr. Aqeel Malik is here with us.
00:20Mr. Ali Zafar is here with us.
00:21I would like to start with Mr. Ali Zafar.
00:23Mr. Ali Zafar, let me first tell you what happened.
00:25When I heard the statements, I wanted the army chief to be neutral.
00:29Then I started getting old statements in my mind.
00:32Is an animal neutral?
00:34When does a human being become neutral?
00:36Can a watchman ever become neutral?
00:38Let's first listen to what your party has said.
00:41I want to know why did you ask Imran Khan to be neutral?
00:44Why did you ask Imran Khan to be neutral?
00:49Imran Khan has sent a message to General Asim Munir.
00:52These two parties, People's Party and Muslim League, want the army and PTI to confront each other.
01:00They have sent a message to General Asim that we can only request you to be neutral.
01:08Now, I have this whole line of statements in front of me, which we kept running earlier.
01:14That neutral is an animal.
01:16How can a human being be neutral?
01:18Allah did not give us permission to be neutral.
01:20Animals are neutral.
01:22Animals are neutral because they don't know what is good and what is bad.
01:25Allah did not give us permission to be neutral.
01:30Now, I am telling you this in Imran Khan's own statement.
01:33This is not my invention.
01:35If there is a robbery at home, how can a watchman be neutral?
01:38Ali Zafar, Khan used to teach everyone that this is neutral.
01:43I remember once I entered a room.
01:45I used to be accused of being neutral.
01:47Khan used to look at me and say, I have become neutral.
01:50You must have understood what I meant by neutral.
01:54So, tell me, what has happened to Khan now?
01:57He used to say, when I wanted you not to be neutral, you should not have been neutral.
02:01When the army says that we are neutral, they say, if you were not neutral, you would have been a neutral animal.
02:04Today, even if they have taken the position, you say, be neutral.
02:10I think this statement is being made out of context.
02:16Ali Khan came out and said that there is a message.
02:21He said that we should be neutral because they want us to fight.
02:24These people who are sitting in front of the government,
02:27Noon and PP want the army and PTI to fight.
02:32This also has a date.
02:33You called them Mir Jafar, Mir Sadiq.
02:35You said everything that you told them.
02:39You did long marches against them.
02:41You are against their appointment.
02:42Today, you say that they want.
02:44Ali Jafar has been in office for 9 months.
02:48So, the question is again.
02:50I don't understand this statement.
02:52At such a time, when you have won the election, you have become a big party,
02:59the situation is going towards you.
03:00I don't get it.
03:01Why is this statement being made?
03:02Why is this retreat happening?
03:03Why is this retreat happening from your side?
03:06I had a talk with Ali Khan.
03:09I will tell you in detail what I talked with him.
03:12It was basically that,
03:16because the facts show that the army is being involved in politics.
03:27So, the statement of neutrality was in that context.
03:32It was in that context that you leave it.
03:35The courts that are making the decision, let them make their decision according to justice.
03:41At this time, the people who want,
03:44the treatment that is going to happen with the government,
03:48the people who want to hold rallies, let them do it.
03:52Because the government will not be established for a long time.
03:55And after that, whenever the government will go,
03:58then also do not interfere in politics and let the people decide.
04:03In that context, he talked about neutrality.
04:07And I think that the situation at the moment…
04:11And the context of neutral was something else.
04:13First, it is an animal.
04:14When is the watchman neutral?
04:16I am not Tittor, I am Bater.
04:18I am neutral.
04:19When can this happen?
04:20So, that was something else.
04:21This is something else.
04:22You see, Altaaf Hussain came to mind.
04:24Then the party is in trouble,
04:26by doing out of context and explaining the statement.
04:28Do you realize you are in a fix,
04:30trying to explain Khan's position?
04:34No, but you know what happens?
04:36You see, the statements that come,
04:39they come from the second or third source.
04:42They directly, what Khan Sahib says,
04:45and what is understood,
04:47what is stated,
04:49and after that how he states.
04:51There is a lot of distortion in that.
04:54It comes in a different context.
04:58That is why it is very important
05:01to understand where those statements are coming from.
05:04If you ever go to jail,
05:06and I keep going, I will go tomorrow as well,
05:08you will see that there is a court room,
05:12and after that there are two small rooms,
05:17one of which is so-called public,
05:19where 7-8 people are sitting,
05:21we all know who they are,
05:23and after that there is another small room,
05:26where the journalists are sitting.
05:28And to reach them,
05:30you have to shout and speak,
05:33and you cannot even speak loudly,
05:35because the court is also going on.
05:38So when you say to someone else,
05:41that this is my context,
05:43and they go out and state something,
05:45then the context changes.
05:48So I think what I am telling you,
05:51is the reality.
05:53No, no, I will not believe this.
05:55I will believe your argument,
05:57that it is difficult to understand,
05:59but I will not believe your context.
06:01Let me tell you,
06:03Aleema Khan came out,
06:05and she said,
06:07Imran Khan told me to convey this message.
06:09So I conveyed the message to the army chief,
06:11that they want to fight us,
06:13this people's party,
06:15they want to fight us,
06:17and because of this,
06:19they want to be neutral.
06:21General Asim Munir has sent a message,
06:23that you should be neutral.
06:25Because they want to fight us.
06:27I will come back to this.
06:29A message has come from a government,
06:31recently.
06:33You have proposed a negotiation,
06:35first you tell us,
06:37we will decide amongst ourselves.
06:39First go home,
06:41close the rooms,
06:43do you want to impose article 6,
06:45or do you want to negotiate?
06:47Because if you are terrorists,
06:49and if you are enemies of the country,
06:51and want to impose article 6,
06:53how can you negotiate with them?
06:55If you want to negotiate,
06:57then you are not enemies of the country,
06:59first decide amongst yourselves.
07:01Thank you very much.
07:03I will explain the context,
07:05because he also explained the context.
07:07I will explain the context,
07:09because I myself attended the hearing,
07:11there were no Chinese whispers.
07:13I apologize to my senior,
07:15brother, friend,
07:17Mr. Ali Zafar,
07:19I am a lawyer,
07:21he was taking it to HRSA.
07:23There were no Chinese whispers,
07:25nor HRSA.
07:27Baniye PTI, the former chairman,
07:29has no interest in the trials,
07:31let's see how many people from the media have come.
07:33Sir, listen to me,
07:35from the media people,
07:37there,
07:39like you and me,
07:41there is a cutout in the middle,
07:43they talk from there,
07:45with clarity,
07:47the journalists, family,
07:49friends, party workers,
07:51everyone knows.
07:53I did not listen to them,
07:55because it did not come through the journalists,
07:57it came through a direct message,
07:59through his sister Aleema Khan,
08:01who usually sends such messages,
08:03he said, this message has been given to me,
08:05and I will convey this message.
08:07Now, I have come to my point,
08:09as far as the restrictions you have talked about,
08:11there are such reports,
08:13I have said in many shows,
08:15in many press conferences,
08:17that Article 6, which was played with the country,
08:19which was circulated,
08:21which put the national security of the country at peril,
08:23and all these things are present,
08:25this is a part of the record,
08:27it is a fact,
08:29but on a small record,
08:31no, no, no,
08:33the Supreme Court,
08:35one second, one second,
08:37the Supreme Court,
08:39when it was a case of bail,
08:41wrote a decision in front of you,
08:43and what was written in that decision,
08:45that even if your case is made,
08:47in this, any foreign power,
08:49which is a cipher,
08:51any foreign power,
08:53will be benefited,
08:55then Article 6 will be imposed on you,
08:57no one will benefit,
08:59it is written in that decision,
09:01it is written that more and more information has been leaked,
09:03Article 6, which you are making,
09:05is a national security document,
09:07it is made in such a way,
09:09that if you benefit any foreign power,
09:11which did not happen in this case,
09:13now let's come to jokes,
09:15we are a political party,
09:17political parties,
09:19joke with political parties,
09:21political parties,
09:23joke with political parties, unlike them,
09:25because they are repeatedly saying,
09:27that they are told,
09:29that if you are joking,
09:31then they call you,
09:33and send you messages,
09:35but you do not joke with the enemies of the country,
09:37listen to this,
09:39your minister was saying,
09:41I do not know much about these things,
09:43I do not even believe,
09:45I say to the politicians,
09:47in the political domain,
09:49jokes, conversations,
09:51this is what happens,
09:53if you are the enemy of the country,
09:55then all the gentlemen in this country
09:57have big fatwas,
09:59I am the enemy of the country,
10:01he is the traitor of the country,
10:03after five years,
10:05the traitor also changes,
10:07he has no right to distribute
10:09certificates of treachery,
10:11according to law and order,
10:13Mr. Zafar,
10:15I will give you a quick clip,
10:17the loyal government has banned PTI,
10:19the case will be moved,
10:21they are going to put a ban on justice,
10:23there is a lot of credible evidence,
10:25to put a ban on justice,
10:27we will put a ban on your deputy speaker,
10:29we have a lot of evidence,
10:31now you are saying,
10:33the door of conversation should be open,
10:35but I have a big principle stance,
10:37as a politician,
10:39as a patriot,
10:41there should be no ban on any party,
10:43but with apologies,
10:45I say in your show,
10:47this is not a democratic or political party,
10:49this is a cult following,
10:51you see, you can't see,
10:53do you know what a cult following is?
10:55you have seen the Netflix series,
10:57and it has not moved,
10:59listen to me,
11:01they were in the government,
11:03KPRG local bodies,
11:05they lost,
11:07cult following does not lose,
11:09the vote of the cult does not go anywhere,
11:11they were not a two-thirds majority party,
11:13you also know this,
11:15the day there was no confidence against Imran Khan,
11:17will you agree with me,
11:19that he was not even a 5-7 seat party in Punjab,
11:21first agree with me,
11:23if that party was so unacceptable,
11:25then if there is no cult,
11:27then your political wrong decisions,
11:29have made them acceptable,
11:31let's be honest,
11:33I will be honest with you,
11:35the steps they have taken,
11:37the kind of politics they want to do,
11:39the kind of propaganda they want to spread,
11:41and they have been spreading,
11:43all these things,
11:459th May incident,
11:47should be punished,
11:49absolutely,
11:51should be punished,
11:53absolutely,
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