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00:00Asalam-o-Alaikum, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to our first program of the week.
00:15There is a lot to discuss in today's program.
00:18There are some court cases.
00:20What is happening in politics?
00:22What is happening on IPP?
00:24There is a protest going on in Rawalpindi by the Islamic Jamaat.
00:27What are its demands?
00:29Will the government be able to fulfill the demands of the protest?
00:33We have seen that Aptama has raised its flag against IPPs.
00:39They have asked the government for some things.
00:42What are the agreements with IPPs?
00:45We will talk about that as well.
00:47But today, our first story is about the case of Shaheed Arsh Sharif.
00:54If you remember, last week we received news that after a year and 10 days, the Supreme Court has again filed a case.
01:04A bench has been made.
01:06In that bench, the Chief Justice who is going to be the Senior Judge, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah, will head the three-member bench.
01:13Justice Naeem Akhtar Afghan and Justice Shahid Bilal Hassan will be a part of this bench.
01:21This morning, we reached the Supreme Court with our friends.
01:26The people who were called there, including the Attorney General, were also present.
01:30The Islamabad Police, the Secretary of the Interior, all the institutions that were noticed,
01:36took out their files and we saw that the Court No. 1 was present.
01:44When we sat on the bench, the initial information that was shared was very surprising for us.
01:53There is a famous dialogue from an Indian film.
01:59In big countries, there are small things happening.
02:07It seems that in our country as well, there are small things happening.
02:11Justice Mansoor Ali Shah said that earlier, the case was heard by a five-member bench.
02:18When the case was being heard by a five-member bench, how can the case be heard by a three-member bench?
02:24After that, when the committee was asked to make a bench, there were questions on this as well.
02:32Then they decided that this bench will be reconstituted.
02:38Under the Practice and Procedure Act, a three-member committee has been formed.
02:42The Chief Justice and two senior judges are present.
02:46They will decide on behalf of a five-member bench.
02:49Our Special Rapporteur Mohsin is present.
02:53We know from him that this is an extraordinary incident.
02:59Hassan has also covered a lot.
03:01We will try to know from him as well.
03:03This is such a big mistake.
03:05The case was heard after a year and ten days.
03:08All the journalists, our friends, the journalists' community, civil society, and the rest of the country were sitting on the television.
03:16To see what is presented in this case.
03:21What documents are presented there?
03:24What work has been done by the government on this?
03:28Mohsin, tell us this.
03:30This is such an extraordinary incident.
03:33Earlier, a five-member bench was being heard.
03:37Now, a three-member bench has been formed.
03:39Is this the fault of the registrar?
03:41Or has there been an unintentional mistake?
03:45What is the story?
03:47Usually, in such high-profile cases, we see that there is no such mistake.
03:55There are routine cases in the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
03:59We have seen that if there is a case of a three-member bench in the High Court, then the Supreme Court looks at it.
04:06Such things happen.
04:08But in such high-profile cases, it is not usually seen.
04:12This case was heard after a year, a month and 16 days in the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
04:18Its last hearing was on June 13, 2023.
04:21As you said in the intro, there was a lot of focus on this case and the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
04:29But today, when the hearing began, it was said by the head of the bench, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
04:35that this case has already been heard by a five-member bench.
04:39And the five-member bench was hearing this case.
04:42Therefore, the Supreme Court is sending the Judges Committee to reschedule the hearing and to form a bench again.
04:50However, on this occasion, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah was asked to inform about the reports and the updates so far.
05:00And on this occasion, Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, who is the lawyer in this case, the mother of Shaheed Asif Sharif,
05:07was told that JIT had received a request from Asif Sharif's mother.
05:14On this occasion, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah was asked that since we cannot make any order on this case,
05:21Justice Jamal Mandookhel and Justice Muhammad Ali Shah are two such judges who are still present in the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
05:29And the five-member bench that had heard this case earlier, these two judges were also included in it.
05:34So it was said by them that when those two judges are also signed, then this case will be rescheduled for the hearing.
05:42No, the fundamental thing there is that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah said that this is a mistake.
05:50I don't understand that mistake.
05:52This is a high-profile case.
05:54The future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Senior Judge, all the judges are respectable for us.
06:00So, as you just said that this case will be rescheduled after a year.
06:05So, this is a minor mistake.
06:09I still don't understand why this happened.
06:14Did this happen on behalf of the Chief Justice?
06:17No, this happened on behalf of the Chief Justice.
06:19To reschedule a case for the hearing, the committee of the judges looks at all these cases.
06:27Initially, the committee would only look at the cases of 184-3 for the hearing.
06:34But now, the committee looks at all the cases that are going to be rescheduled in the Supreme Court.
06:39So, this is a mistake at the end of the committee.
06:42And as I said earlier, in high-profile cases, such mistakes are usually not visible.
06:50But it happened in this case.
06:52But there was a little development. I want to share that with you.
06:55In front of the court, bad reports have been presented.
06:58Attorney General told in the press today.
07:01And then the draft that has been prepared in relation to mutual legal assistance.
07:05Attorney General told the court that the next hearing of the cabinet will also be accepted.
07:11At this time, the head of the bench, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah, asked about the decision of the Kenyan courts.
07:16Did the court there make a decision?
07:19Attorney General said that the decision has come from there too.
07:24And Justice Mansoor Ali Shah asked if you have brought that decision on record.
07:30This was questioned by him.
07:32However, he once again gave a remark that we cannot hear a debate on the marriage of this case.
07:38On the part of Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, it was said in his argument that a request was made on behalf of the family of Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui.
07:46And he said that the investigations in Kenya or in the UAE, or the team that will go there, should be kept.
07:54Because it depends on the MLA.
07:56But the situation at the moment is that the people who are claiming in Pakistan that they have knowledge of murderers,
08:02they should be called, they should be investigated.
08:05And on their side, it was also said that we had also put the names of some people in front of the court.
08:10And the new bench will face all these facts.
08:15Thank you very much Mohsen Raq.
08:18You have been going to the Supreme Court.
08:20I mean, you must have read today's hearing.
08:23Are you surprised today?
08:24I am surprised.
08:25I am very surprised.
08:26Because the reason is that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah, who was the head of the bench, said that we cannot make a decision on this.
08:33And we cannot hear arguments on the marriage.
08:36Because the first case that was heard was heard by the five-member bench.
08:40But in the same way, when the case of the Peshawar High Court came,
08:43the appeal that came against it, against the decision of the Peshawar High Court,
08:46in that they had issued an order.
08:48And then the matter was referred to the committee for the five-member bench.
08:51So, at that time, you suspended the decision of the Peshawar High Court.
08:57No, I did not suspend the decision.
08:59No, at that time, they had suspended the decision of the five-member bench.
09:02But this matter, this is the matter of our martyr brother's murder.
09:07Today, there was a notice.
09:08So, they should have given some order on this too.
09:10They should have given some direction.
09:11I have given the order.
09:12But they said that they cannot give.
09:13No.
09:14They said that they cannot give.
09:15We cannot hear this case.
09:16Hassan, we have understood your observation.
09:17We have heard arguments on the marriage.
09:19We have understood your observation.
09:20We have gone there too.
09:22But there was a decision.
09:23The applicant had asked for an appeal against it.
09:27Basically, it should not have happened.
09:29This is still going on.
09:30Basically, it should not have happened.
09:31Let's move forward.
09:32I hope that this new bench will be formed.
09:33All the matters will come in it.
09:34All the matters of the committee will come in it.
09:37I want to talk about one thing.
09:38Yes, yes, please.
09:39Actually, this matter is not of the constitution.
09:42So, if the three-member bench also wants to hear this case,
09:45then it can listen.
09:46There is no problem that at least the five-member bench has to listen.
09:50Even if it is a case of that kind.
09:52It is a case of great importance.
09:53Do you remember that there was a case of Army Chief's extension?
09:57Jal Bajwa Sahib's case.
09:58That too was heard by the three-member bench of the Supreme Court.
10:01And Justice Matsuri Shah was a part of that bench.
10:05If you want to listen, you can listen, sir.
10:07There is no problem.
10:08According to me.
10:09Neither according to the rules nor according to them.
10:10But why don't you want to listen?
10:13If you have heard such an example before, then listen.
10:15It is a great example.
10:16It is a case of Punjab Elections.
10:18You have given two or three examples.
10:19It is a case of Punjab Elections.
10:20Okay, okay, let's move ahead.
10:21Viewers, the other political matters are on one side.
10:24This is an injustice.
10:26And a Pakistani citizen, a Pakistani journalist,
10:30was martyred in a foreign country in a blinding manner.
10:35In that regard, all the matters, the Supreme Court, of course,
10:39has itself taken a supermoto notice.
10:41And if a five-member bench is formed,
10:43then all the circumstances and incidents will come in front of it.
10:45Let's move on to our next story, Mr. Chaudhary.
10:48Viewers, if you want to comment on this too,
10:53I mean, his observation, the future Chief Justice,
10:58he is saying that the five members heard it,
11:00and the five members should listen.
11:02You are not understanding the point.
11:03Yes, yes.
11:04He was listening to the five-member bench earlier.
11:07So now what is the reason to come to the three-member bench?
11:10It is possible that you are referring to the Peshawar case.
11:14No, no, that is a different case.
11:15That was the first case.
11:16No, that decision was made.
11:18Let's move ahead, Mr. Chaudhary.
11:19Yes.
11:20Today, one more thing.
11:21All day, you saw that the government of Pakistan
11:25has given a very good, very effective response.
11:29A gentleman gave a fatwa
11:33regarding our respected Chief Justice.
11:35The state should have responded.
11:37And the state responded perfectly.
11:40That in Pakistan,
11:42Pakistan is an independent country.
11:46No one has the right to give a fatwa
11:48regarding religious beliefs.
11:51If someone has an issue, the courts are present.
11:53The state is present.
11:55This should not happen.
11:56There is no news yet.
11:58Has the case been arrested?
11:59Yes, it has been arrested.
12:00But the thing is that the decision taken by the state,
12:03the state first filed a case.
12:06They filed a case of 788.
12:08Apart from that,
12:09the case has been filed against about 1500 people.
12:12Including the Naib Amir of that Jamaat.
12:15Now, mob justice is a trend in Pakistan.
12:19There is no permission for it.
12:21Neither in the constitution, nor in the law,
12:23nor in our religion.
12:24So, no one has the right to take the law into their own hands.
12:27And giving an open, general threat,
12:29and giving a fatwa,
12:31this fatwa is also acceptable.
12:34Our Islam gives the message of love and tolerance.
12:38Our Islam gives the message of tolerance.
12:42This is our religion.
12:43And our religion is spread with love and tolerance.
12:45No violence, no mob justice.
12:47And there is no permission for it.
12:48Neither in our Islam, nor in our constitution,
12:50nor in our religion.
12:51Today, the minister of Pakistan Muslim League Noon,
12:54of a press conference, Khawaja Asif Sahib,
12:56Iqbal Sahib,
12:57is the federal government.
12:58The federal government has issued a fatwa
13:00regarding this issue.
13:02The government's stance on this issue
13:06is that it should be put in front of the people of Pakistan.
13:11A Muslim does not need to take a certificate
13:15from a community for the end of his prophethood.
13:19Only the court has the right to punish and punish.
13:25Qazi Sahib has been targeted for a long time.
13:28Propaganda based on lies is in force.
13:32The government will not allow
13:35the issuance of a fatwa on someone's murder.
13:39The Supreme Court's press release,
13:41which was issued on July 26,
13:42was issued twice before this.
13:44And if a clarification is given,
13:46then what is the scope of this?
13:47The fatwa on murder will be issued.
13:49These hands will be stopped.
13:51We will become a wall in the path of such hands.
13:54Arrest will be brought immediately.
13:56The law will come into effect.
13:58Chaudhry Ghulam Sain Sahib has been arrested.
14:02Don't you think that this trend of issuing fatwas
14:06is a trend in Pakistan?
14:08It is a democratic country.
14:10There are laws and regulations.
14:12God forbid, if someone makes a mistake,
14:15it is the responsibility of the state
14:18to punish him.
14:20Instead of someone issuing a fatwa,
14:24the state will punish him.
14:25In my opinion,
14:26if someone commits a crime,
14:28it should be punished.
14:29It is an effective response.
14:31I think the entire Pakistani community
14:34should support the government's policy statement.
14:45Obviously, no one has any right
14:47to keep issuing fatwas
14:49and to keep issuing fatwas
14:51on someone's murder.
14:53It is not acceptable.
14:55But the state should also
14:57punish such people.
14:59The incidents that took place in Gwadar today
15:02and the speeches that were delivered
15:04by the Chief Minister in Balochistan
15:07should also be paid attention to.
15:09This is not a good thing.
15:11Sometimes KP, sometimes Balochistan,
15:13sometimes somewhere else.
15:15What is happening in the country?
15:17There are many problems and challenges.
15:19Chaudhry Sahib, obviously...
15:21I agree with what Chaudhry Sahib said.
15:28In Gwadar, an officer of the F.C.
15:31was martyred.
15:33There was no prosecution.
15:35They martyred an F.C. officer.
15:38One officer lost his eye
15:40and two were severely injured.
15:43Can the state allow this?
15:46Obviously, there is a nexus
15:48of smugglers and terrorists
15:50that is leading to this march.
15:52Is this a way for the state
15:54to do something?
15:56The state should do something
15:58that challenges the rate.
16:00Then the state should punish them
16:02according to the law,
16:04whether they are Baloch, Punjabi, Sindhi,
16:06or Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
16:08But you know that there are
16:10many statements made
16:12on such incidents in Pakistan.
16:14The responsibility of the state
16:16is to keep all the facts in front
16:18and whoever is responsible
16:20should be punished.
16:22Obviously, in any country,
16:24violence is only the right
16:26of the state.
16:28If someone has to be punished,
16:30if someone has to be hanged,
16:32if someone has to be put in jail,
16:34if someone has to be whipped,
16:36then it is the job of the state.
16:38Obviously, before that,
16:40there is a legal process
16:42that is being followed.
16:44But it doesn't mean violence.
16:46It doesn't mean violence.
16:50Let's move on to the next story.
16:52In Pakistan,
16:54since the election of February 8,
16:56a story has been going on
16:58and it will continue
17:00until a solution
17:02is found.
17:04Earlier, you saw that
17:06a case was filed
17:08on the election tribunals
17:10and this case was
17:12taken to the Supreme Court.
17:14At that time, the Supreme Court
17:16gave an order to the Chief Election Commissioner
17:18and gave an opinion and suggestion
17:20that you should go
17:22and talk to the new Chief Justice,
17:24Neelam Sahiba,
17:26and make election tribunals
17:28in coordination.
17:30So, the election tribunals
17:32that were made in the past,
17:34since they were made
17:36in his opinion,
17:38Neelam Sahiba said
17:40that they will remain
17:42and do their job.
17:44The same thing is happening in Islamabad.
17:46You know that an election tribunal
17:48was made in Islamabad.
17:50Justice Jahangiri was heading it.
17:52The three circles of Islamabad
17:54challenged the winning candidates
17:56and put strange allegations
17:58on them.
18:00Then the allegations were taken back.
18:02Now, this case has been heard
18:04and today,
18:06the decision regarding this case
18:08has been made.
18:10First, the judge said that
18:12the judgment has been reserved
18:14and then said that the order is in waiting.
18:16It means that the order will come
18:18in a few days.
18:20Now, this is also an important case
18:22because an opinion or impression
18:24is that the result of the three circles
18:26of Islamabad, which has been challenged
18:28in the election tribunals,
18:30will have a great effect
18:32on the election tribunals
18:34because the allegations
18:36that are made
18:38on the winning candidates
18:40are being made
18:42by the contenders
18:44that they are from Farm 47
18:46and they have Farm 45
18:48which they should get from the polling station
18:50and according to that,
18:52we are winning.
18:54Hussain Chaudhary is with us
18:56and we know from him
18:58what happened in the hearing
19:00and how long they are expecting
19:02Thank you very much, Hussain.
19:04Please share the details
19:06of today's case with the viewers.
19:08The three circles of the National Assembly
19:10in Islamabad, which is a part
19:12of Islamabad High Court,
19:14have completed the case
19:16against the election tribunal
19:18of the three contenders
19:20of the PTI.
19:22If we talk about today's case,
19:24the lawyer of Amir Mughal,
19:26Faisal Chaudhary,
19:28has given his answers
19:30to the three contenders
19:32of the PTI.
19:34As you remember,
19:36the contenders of the PTI,
19:38Ligi MNA Anjum Mateen Khan,
19:40have made allegations
19:42on the election tribunal
19:44and the court has issued
19:46a shocking notice
19:48against them.
19:50Today, Faisal Chaudhary said
19:52that the language used
19:54in the application
19:56is not tolerable.
19:58He added that
20:00it is the responsibility
20:02of the court
20:04to protect the judiciary.
20:06Today's case
20:08against the election tribunal
20:10and the alteration
20:12of the tribunal
20:14has been completed
20:16by the Chief Justice
20:18and the decision
20:20will be announced
20:22in a day or two.
20:24If the requests are collected,
20:26it will be announced
20:28in a day or two.
20:30On the other hand,
20:32if Justice Tariq Jahangiri
20:34is allowed to run
20:36the tribunal,
20:38he will go on leave
20:40from 10th July to 10th September.
20:42Judges are going on leave
20:44from Waqf-e-Waqf.
20:46Justice Tariq Jahangiri
20:48will go on leave
20:50for a month.
20:52Thank you very much,
20:54Mr. Chaudhary.
20:56Mr. Chaudhary,
20:58do you agree
21:00with the impression
21:02that the results
21:04of the three rounds
21:06of the elections
21:08in Islamabad
21:10will have a deep impact
21:12on the challenges
21:14faced by the other parties
21:16in Pakistan?
21:18Mr. Chaudhary,
21:20do you agree
21:22with the impression
21:24that the results
21:26of the three rounds
21:28of the elections
21:30in Islamabad
21:32will have a deep impact
21:34on the challenges
21:36faced by the other parties
21:38in Pakistan?
21:48Mr. Chaudhary,
21:50do you agree
21:52with the impression
21:54that the results
21:56of the three rounds
21:58of the elections
22:00in Islamabad
22:02will have a deep impact
22:04on the challenges
22:06faced by the other parties
22:08in Pakistan?
22:18Mr. Chaudhary,
22:20do you agree
22:22with the impression
22:24that the results
22:26of the three rounds
22:28of the elections
22:30in Islamabad
22:32will have a deep impact
22:34on the challenges
22:36faced by the other parties
22:38in Pakistan?
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